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After reading more of theses forms I've come to the concision that we're doomed as a species.  


Also I need to be asking for higher pay as at least 50% of the architects in the world are untalented idiots.  


queue rando, jay, balkins, and maybe x-jla for an entertaining response. 

Sep 10, 20 2:07 pm  · 
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nah, Balkins and jla can't post on TC anymore. Jay just doesn't know what they don't know and has quite a bit to learn. As for rando ... yeah you'll get a response, but not an entertaining one.

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Damn it.

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Non Sequitur

I don't know about doomed. our city just extended patio licenses to march! in an effort to help local bars/restaurant generate income as social gathering restrictions slowly improve. Just think about it: it's -20c and snowing... but I head out to my local pub patio for a pint and build myself a snow fort. Now I can order drinks from my own snow igloo on the patio?

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atelier nobody

The City has actually blocked of parts of the road to accommodate outdoor seating at restaurants, which was great until the smoke got too thick.

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SneakyPete

I wish that marine layer would come back, orange skies were odd but at least the air was merely bad as opposed to terrible.

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randomised

You’ll be glad to even have a job Chad, don’t push it! Not able to work with other people, you even pick fights here with Josh, and for sure not able to be in a client facing role, it is only a matter of time until you’re out the door again. Maybe first ask for more sick days or pto and see how that will go before you negotiate a better salary, the value you’re able to add to any office is dropping with every comment you post here. Agreed we are doomed as a species, lack of leadership and vision to even nudge the herd in the right direction, although COVID did lower our carbon emissions considerably and maybe even permanently in the (over) developed world.

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SneakyPete

Rando, you are uniquely unqualified to call out others on being annoyingly antagonistic for no good reason.

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randomised

I didn’t flash the bat signal here...I merely answered it.

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SneakyPete

The problem is YOU ARE NOT BATMAN.

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randomised

I was called upon, I answer...

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SneakyPete

ahem

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b3tadine[sutures]

Love the drop shadow.

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randomised

EA was totally right, my response was not meant to be entertaining.

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Rando wrote:

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Rando wrote:

"You’ll be glad to even have a job Chad, don’t push it! Not able to work with other people, you even pick fights here with Josh, and for sure not able to be in a client facing role, it is only a matter of time until you’re out the door again. Maybe first ask for more sick days or pto and see how that will go before you negotiate a better salary, the value you’re able to add to any office is dropping with every comment you post here."  :snip::


Odd,  the partners here disagree with your assessment.  I already work great in groups, meet and deal with clients everyday, and bring in work for the firm.  Obviously all of that can be improved upon and I doubt I'll ever stop working on myself in those areas.

I did find your comment entertaining though Rando.  It was exactly what I expected from someone like you. 


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Jaetten

Think it's time to start my own design practice!

Sep 10, 20 2:53 pm  · 
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SneakyPete

Wow. That's a huge step. I hope you find success.

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Good for you Jaetten!  


I've thought about doing that myself but I don't have a mind for business and suck at marketing. Also I don't think I could handle the stress of having to find clients.  You clearly have more determination than I! 


Good Luck! 

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randomised

Godspeed!

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archanonymous

may the farce be with you!

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Jaetten

Thanks folks. We’ll see what happpens. Hopefully up an running towards the end of year.

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Alright, which one of you set up an imposter account impersonating me on Twitter? Couldn’t even get my last name right. 


Kidding, but wouldn’t put it past Balkins to do so given that I’m 99% sure he called my bosses and tried to get me fired for something I said to him on here once. 

Sep 11, 20 2:31 pm  · 
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SneakyPete

I just assumed your real last name was "The Merciless." My bad.

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Actually had a math teacher call me that in middle school.

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SneakyPete

I hope the teacher was using it in good fun, but even so, middle school isn't a great time to make referential jokes in front of other middle schoolers.

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atelier nobody

I just keep expecting you to play some bass.

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b3tadine[sutures]

You should see my Balkin account on Grindr.

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That...is slightly terrifying, B3ta.

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b3tadine[sutures]

Josh, it's great, I use the discourse he leaves here, too respond to all conversations guys start with me.

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kjdt

Balkins told me he called the FBI on me, on the now-defunct ARE Forum, because I could find information that he apparently was unable to find, therefore I was a cybercriminal. I was kind of looking forward to them showing up - it would have added some intrigue to my reputation at work. Alas they never showed.

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randomised

just look at that downvote...

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randomised

and that downvote is gone, hahaha

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Non Sequitur

I saw it.

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awaiting_deletion

everyone hates balkins, but THEY know where you live. THEIR last name is interesting, to say the least.

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Ah Balkins - the poor guy. He's clearly mentally unstable and needs help. He's stalked me online as well. I'm not going to worry unless I get a weird package in the mail . . .

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awaiting_deletion

client line of the day -

"We saw Russian_ForeName hired you.  We noticed you're young.  That's good.  The original architect - dead.  The original contractor - dead.  We need someone to be around long enough to be liable for this shit.  That's you!"

Sep 11, 20 10:09 pm  · 
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Uh . . . . thanks?

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awaiting_deletion

if client says - they doing legal against me - should architect start drinking or wait?  No legal against architect yet...

I think I'll drink and read some Heidegger.


Sep 11, 20 11:27 pm  · 
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citizen

I'll just hide and drink some Heineken.

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awaiting_deletion

Heineken goes better with Spinoza.

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Just go with whiskey. More efficient. :)

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wurdan freo

I prefer Heisenberg over Heidegger... and Heineken for that matter...

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awaiting_deletion

Whisky only goes with Hume and Locke. Now Heisenberg, that's just straight up Hefe-Weisse and then you give-up halfway, because you're uncertain - but the wheat beer is so solid - how can you not be!

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So I got my new broadheads for my recurve bow setup.  Took them out to the range and shot them at my broadhead target.  

I think I need a new target.  Arrow went right through the 20" thick target.

Whoops. 

Sep 14, 20 10:24 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

New home defense set up? You can now hit more than one target if they're perfectly lined up! Less arrows spent fending off the invading hoards is better for the environment!

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I'm not going to waste a $25 broadhead and $20 arrow on an invading hoard. This is 'Murica - our ammo is way, way less expensive.

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Non Sequitur

sad thumbs up

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The really sad thumbs up is that I'm not really a gun guy yet I own two rifles, two shotguns, and two pistols. Oh and three recurve bows. I probably have 50-100 rounds of ammo for each firearm as well.

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Non Sequitur

If you mount the riffle to the bow, could you not use the scope for both the arrow and bullets? I'm sure that would look bad-ass and would totally show those turkeys who's boss. Video games have convinced me that this is a thing.

Something like this:

r/TheSimpsons - And that's how, with a few minor adjustments, you can turn a regular gun into five guns.

...but more refined because we care about small details like nylon braided rope colours and black-anodized (or better, like black zinc-plated) finishes on the structure.

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That could probably work. It's called a crossbow.

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Non Sequitur

Yes, but what, you want to be just as unoriginal as the next wanker using a stock, store-bought crossbow? How pedestrian. Side note, I'm assuming crossbows are also heavily regulated in my frozen tundra land. Recurves not so much.

edit: they are not, unless it's under 50cm or can be operated with one hand.  So, so batman grapling hooks.  

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The odd thing is most small crossbows are weak and not able to harm / kill anything other than close range. A typical hunting crossbow is around 190 pounds of pull force and lethal out to 120 yards.

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Wood Guy

Do you bow hunt or just target practice? I'm interested in bowhunting for wild turkey, plentiful around here. I have a collection of firearms as well but I don't hunt (yet) and from what I have heard, broadhead arrows are the best way to get turkeys.

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I bow hunt. Deer and elk. Turkey would be very challenging as those birds are so twitchy they're basically on meth. For broadheads for turkeys they make some really big ones (6" cutting circle) called a guillotine. Instead of aiming at the vitals you aim at the neck and decapitate the bird.

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square.

^never imagined bird decapitation being something i read about here

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Bench

'Murica!
(Sorry Chad I had to)

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Non Sequitur

what would happen if you used that guillotine arrow head to hunt kangaroos? Or do they load-up the cross bow with sharpened boomerangs?

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archanonymous

i recently watched a documentary on Central Park's birders. Really loved the quote that birdwatching is "hunting without the bloodshed."

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SneakyPete

What does that make people watching?

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Wood Guy

They are twitchy but I know several bow hunters who hunt them and told me about broadhead arrows. I have a small farm so deer and turkey stop by regularly. Their body makes a big target but birdshot ruins the meat--decapitation is simpler. Wild turkey meat is excellent, if cooked properly, and they have been reintroduced here very successfully, to the point of being pests (like deer).

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SneakyPete

The native turkeys out here were made extinct, and humans, never satisfied to leave their destruction unfinished, introduced non-native turkeys, which now cause problems in places where people live. Good job, humans.

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'Murica! 'Murica! We decapitate turkeys! Gobble gobble motherf#*ker.

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citizen

You'll need those blades and bullets to fend off all the disdain and derision.

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Non Sequitur

but Chad, we celebrate thanksgiving in the proper month: October.   Gobble gobble, sorry.

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randomised

Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is murder
And the flesh you so fancifully fry
Is not succulent, tasty or kind
It's death for no reason
And death for no reason is murder
And the calf that you carve with a smile
Is murder
And the turkey you festively slice
Is murder
Do you know how animals die?
Kitchen aromas aren't very homely
It's not "comforting", cheery or kind
It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench
Of murder
It's not "natural", "normal" or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savor the flavor
Of murder
No, no, no, it's murder
No, no, no, it's murder
Oh...and who hears when animals cry?

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Non Sequitur

Tasty.

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That's the only reason I hunt - tasty animals. Hmmm, venison and elk. Nummy.

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Non Sequitur

Elk burgers are fantastic.

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Yup.

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Non Sequitur

I'd like to see the size of the arrow head that can guillotine an Elk.

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It's called a Suburban. Oh and it't technically a truck and not an arrowhead . . .

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square.

as long as it's not that factory-farmed industrial product...

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Non Sequitur

Imagine a building used to raise factory-farmed elk that you can also hunt using a suburban. This sounds like a fantastic thesis idea. Who here has a parametric elk revit family I can borrow?

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archanonymous

I always wondered how cows became the default factory-farm (or for that matter free-range) animal. Why not free-range bison, venison, elk, etc? I'd be much more open to ranching on public lands if the animals being ranched were indigenous to the region.

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Cows are the most easily domesticated, grow the fastest, and require the least amount of land to product in a factory farm.

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SneakyPete

They've been introduced into environments where elk used to live and their habits differ such that the environment suffers when they are let to graze. Eating less beef is a sound environmental (and personal health) decision.

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archanonymous

SP - I guess that's what I'm getting at. Why can't there be herds of deer, elk, and bison living in their natural habitats that are sustainably managed and culled for food as needed? It's a dumb rhetorical question of course, and the answer is "money" but it's still a nice thought. 


I've been a vegetarian/ pescetarian/ vegan off and on for 20 years, more on than off. I don't miss meat but I do have some very fond memories of foraging, fishing and hunting on extended backcountry trips growing up, and how amazing it all tastes in comparison to what you buy at the store.

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It's because without factory ranching there is no way the US could provide enough meat. Naturally elk, deer,cows, and even chickens need a large area to graze. There simply isn't enough space for these animals to graze and produce enough meat for the demand here in the US - hence factory farming. I'm not defending factory farming, just giving a response to your question. I personally hunt / fish wild game (deer, elk, pheasant, turkey, ect) for the majority of my meat however if everyone did this there wouldn't be any wild animals left.

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square.

"need" is questionable, demand more accurate. if pro athletes can forgo meat, so can the average american.

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archanonymous

Not to mention factory farming/ ranching is heavily subsidized by the government, whether directly or through the aforementioned access to public lands where their roaming meat and shit factories destroy the ecology even further. Capitalism is great - if you let it actually work. Meat costs everyone so much more than it appears and as has been pointed out, the "need" to eat it is artificial.

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I often wonder what the world we know would look like if governments didn't subsidize certain industries and if companies had to deal with the externalities of the goods and services they produce.

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SneakyPete

You mean the ... free market?

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Maybe for the no subsidies part, but the free market doesn't make you deal with externalities. It's a feature, not a bug if you can make someone else pay for it in the free market. 

You want to pollute? Cool, but you'll have to clean it up and restore whatever you polluted to whatever state it was in before you polluted it. If somebody gets sick from that pollution in the meantime, you're going to have to pay for their care and other consequences of being sick. 

Completely unrealistic fixing the tragedy of the commons type of thing.

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SneakyPete

I was being sarcastic. The free market folks love to ignore the role of government in picking winners and losers on the financial side but rails against the role of government in protecting the ecosystem and humans.

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I figured, but I'm sure the thumbs up you got understood that.

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square wrote:

""need" is questionable, demand more accurate. if pro athletes can forgo meat, so can the average american."

I assume you where responding to the post above mine as I used the work demand.  Regardless you're splitting hairs and being a bit of an insufferable douche.

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I didn't take square.'s comment to be a reflection on meat consumption need vs demand, though I can see that might be what was meant by it. I thought it was in reference to Chad's statement that, "Naturally elk, deer,cows, and even chickens need a large area to graze." In other words, these animals demand a certain amount of resources. It we want to free up those resources we need to eat them less. That's probably because I was already thinking of the commons.

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Chad, by the way, I think your statement, "I personally hunt / fish wild game (deer, elk, pheasant, turkey, ect) for the majority of my meat however if everyone did this there wouldn't be any wild animals left," is excellent. It could be the jumping off point for a seminar on sustainability at any number of colleges with students who come from rural, more traditionally conservative areas.

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randomised

Nobody needs to eat meat in the developed world in this day and age...talking about sustainability when killing animals just because they taste nice. I don’t get it. All those meatlovin’ hunters should hunt each other, now that would be sustainable ;-)

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...tumbleweed...

Hi everyone...

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square.

chad, must be a sensitive subject. your reaction is common though, and it's why i'm skeptical people will change their eating habits in time to help reduce the massive amounts of carbon emission the current unsustainable demand for meat creates (also, historically humans did not consume much meat, and my point about athletes isn't splitting hairs, it's that humans in the 21st century can easily live off an entirely plant based diet, which would be infinitely better for the planet).

to be fair, i was trying to credit your willingness to go get it yourself as more sustainable in one way, because most soft modern people who expect everything to be given to them are not willing to do that and would probably forgo meat altogether rather than having to decapitate their own turkeys.

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Wood Guy

EA, I'm with you regarding the free market.

I agree that meat is not a necessity, and don't eat a lot of it. Much of what I do eat I raise myself with relatively sustainable means, or friends and family do. Knowing my meat is challenging at slaughter time but feeling uncomfortable about taking a life is a good balance to the pleasure (and nutrients) of eating meat. 

When wild animals like turkey and deer don't have wild predators, they become nuisances and suffer in our long, cold winters. Decapitating a wild animal with an arrow is about the most humane way that any animal dies, and they get to live a free life instead of suffering in a CAFO. 

I am cultivating an interest in growing and hunting mushrooms, to further reduce my desire for meat, and to reduce my carbon footprint. 

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Non Sequitur

Can you hunt for mushrooms using a guillotine arrows?

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The reason this hit a nerve with me is that your comment ignores a few things.

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It's not really a sensitive subject for me - I'm all for vegetarian protein sources. There are a few issues that people tend to gloss over though . . . 

 1. Around 35% - 45% of world population is 100% vegetarian. 


2. Nearly no plant based protein is complete and requires multiple different sources to make it complete for human use. Nothing wrong with that. 

 3. The current production of plant based protein required to feed the world complete protein sources would not be able to meet the need of the world population if everyone became vegetarian. There would need to be a huge increase in production and this would mean more factor farming and resource usage. While a plant based diet uses less resources than a meat based diet the actual reduction in resources used would only be about 15% compared to meat production. Sadly a 15% reduction in resources doesn't translate to a reduced environmental impacts. The environmental impacts of going to a 100% plant based diet for the world using factory farms is only reduced 5% compared to meat production. This is a problem that need to be addressed and is my biggest concern. 


 4. Veg diet is high in carbohydrates. Not an issue for some people but if you're like me and am a type 1 diabetic it's nearly impossible to get enough protein without consuming over 300 grams of carb a day. Not something most people need to worry about but some of us do. 


 Like I said before, I'm not against a vegetarian diet. It's just that there are still issue we need to figure out and it bugs me when people overlook these issues.

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Non Sequitur wrote: 

"Can you hunt for mushrooms using a guillotine arrows?"

Better be a humongous fungus else you're not going to have much left to eat.  Maybe better to hunt with a piggy . . .

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SneakyPete

That would need to be one huge bow.

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Wood Guy

I don't do much mushroom hunting but do take a big knife and a folding saw when looking for Reishi, which is easy to identify and a good medicinal. On rare occasions I've found chaga, an amazing medicinal fungus. (Not in a fun way, but in an anti-cancer way.)

The spot I have scoped out for a future mushroom yard (for growing shiitake and oyster mushrooms) is also where deer and turkey like to hang out. So maybe guillotine arrows for defense, instead of offense. 

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Non Sequitur

Chad, how do you hold down the pig long-enough to fit it in the bow and fire?

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archanonymous

I'm happy to see Chad seamlessly taking Rick's place in TC as spouter of bullshit they know nothing about.

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square.

yes.. that point #3 is highly suspect, considering it takes about 1,800 gallons of water to produce 1lb of beef,including the plants required to feed it.. (here's s source for my data, by the way: https://foodprint.org/reports/the-foodprint-of-beef/?bid=7858#easy-footnote-bottom-20-1580)

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square.

i only bring this up because many architects i know aspire to be sustainable/whatever you want to call it with buildings while chowing down on burgers and meat for multiple meals a day. most of you here seem to limit your consumption though, which is great.

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JLC-1 - I get what you're saying however your link is about food waste and isn't disproving that resources and environmental impact won't be reduced to to the point that environmental damage won't be done by the world going to a plant based or vegetarian diet.

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To the rest of you - I don't disagree with you however there is one major fact that your sources aren't mentioning and that is they are all assuming two important factors: 

1.  That anything grown won't be done using factory farming on an industrial scale.  When factory farming is used there is still a large amount of resources used and pollution created to the point that climate disaster would still be in our future because of this. 

2.  That food waste would be reduced substantially. 

Again, I'm not against eating vegetarian or plant based diets.  Probably 50% my protein consumption is from those sources.  

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square.

assuming one is replacing the other, it's completely irrational to think that factory farming vegetables is worse for the environment than factory farming animals. guess what those animals eat?

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square.

honestly chad this idea is a new one to me- i've never heard anyone argue that plant-based diets are worse for the environment, but i shouldn't be surprised considering the number of climate deniers out there. learn something new everyday!

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I apologize if that's how my comments read. That is not what I meant to convey. Meat production is the absolute worst for the environment, especially when done in factory farms. What I am saying is that the world going to a vegetarian or plant based diet will still cause a great deal of environmental damage when done with factory farming practices. Realistically factory farming would still be required to feed the worlds population even if we all went to a vegetarian or plant based diet. The amount of environmental damage would be the least in a plant based diet however it is still enough to cause global warming but at a much reduced rate compared to the race to the end we're on now.

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Non Sequitur wrote:

"Chad, how do you hold down the pig long-enough to fit it in the bow and fire?"

Specialty trained pigs.  Also CBD oil.  A lot of CBD oil.  


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archanonymous wrote: 

"I'm happy to see Chad seamlessly taking Rick's place in TC as spouter of bullshit they know nothing about."

I could very well be wrong.  Please provide data that factory farming for a vegetarian or plant based diet for the worlds population won't produce negative impacts on the environment and cause detrimental climate change?


Again, I'm not against a vegetarian or plant based diet - it's just that the data I've consumed says it's a cure all for the environmental impacts and resource depletion of factory farming to fee the world. 

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To be fair, I don't think Chad is arguing that square., rather he's arguing that it isn't all that much better and there will still be issues to deal with. Edit: I can see that Chad beat me to the punch.

Plus, I thought I'd throw this out there to stir the pot a little. The following is from the wikipedia page for The Omnivore's Dilemma under the heading "On veganism": 

"Pollan argues that to 'give up' human consumption of animals would lead to a 'food chain…even more dependent than it already is on fossil fuels and chemical fertilizers since food would need to travel even farther and fertility—in the form of manures—would be in short supply'. Given that, according to Pollan, other than raising ruminants for human consumption, no viable alternatives exist in such grassy areas, for growing any grains or other plant foods for human consumption."

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Of course, he has also written (emphasis mine): 

"Meat eating may have become an act riddled with moral and ethical ambiguities, but eating a steak at the end of a short, primordial food chain comprising nothing more than ruminants and grass and sunlight is something I’m happy to do and defend. The same is true for a pastured chicken or hog. When obtained from small farms where these animals are treated well, fed an appropriate diet, and generally allowed to express their creaturely character, I think the benefits of eating such meat outweigh the cost. A truly sustainable agriculture will involve animals, in order to complete the nutrient cycle, and those animals are going to be killed and eaten.

"That said, I have the ultimate respect for vegetarians and vegans. For they have actually done the work of thinking through the consequences of their eating decisions, something most of the rest of us have not done. My own examination of those consequences has led me to the conclusion that eating a small amount of meat from certain kinds of farms is something I can feel good about. But we all have to decide this question for ourselves, and different people will come to different conclusions, depending on their values."

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What EA said . . .

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square.

yes, i understand your last post more clearly, that even if we switch it's important to think about how the farming is done, which is why organic and non-gmo farming is so important, etc.

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randomised

Factory farming is not necessarily that bad and actually more efficient, to the point that it is better for the environment or the planet than other ways of farming! You will need to allocate much less land, energy and resources to feed a certain amount of people. Now, when you feed plants to those people directly rather than first giving those plants to animals in other factory farms to turn those plants into meat, that is even more efficient! That land not being used for growing crops for animals can be used for other things, cutting out the middle man(animals), that land can be turned back into nature, capturing carbon in the trees etc.

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Factory farming is by it's very nature a bad thing when it comes to environmental damage and resource depletion. It's about the vast amount of resources needed over a short period of time for production, transportation of these resources, waste produced and transported, and distribution of the final product over a wide area that cause the most environmental damage and resource depletion. 

 Organic and non GMO food still uses factory farming techniques and unless they are produced using environmentally friendly processes, in smaller quantities using only local ingredients and distributed locally can cause a great amount environmental damage.

Organic and non GMO food do not have to do any of the above things to gain the aforementioned labels.  Just because a thing is organic and non GMO doesn't mean it's environmentally friendly.

  

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square.

got it, but what's your battle here? if you're so concerned about the impacts of farming and diet on climate, you wouldn't be eating meat. even the "good stuff," pasture/grass raised, is in many ways worse for the environment because it's much more land and resource intensive. factory farming animals is way more efficient. i guess i find it a strange hill to die on, going after organic farming and non gmo food.

sure, solar panels have resource considerations in terms of their production, but we still should put our attention to ending the use of fossil fuels before deriding a better system.

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Non Sequitur

non-organic and GMO is not necessarily a bad thing either. Lots of undeserved hype with labels on both sides of the fence here.

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Wood Guy

The problem with factory farming of all types is that it's an extractive industry, run like any factory, dependent on inputs to keep the cycle going. True organic agriculture (not USDA organic), sometimes called beyond-organic, feeds and builds the soil. There is a minor health benefit from reduced pesticides and higher nutrient levels, and usually better taste as well, but the real idea is to feed the soil. No industrial farming feeds the soil; it treats the soil as a medium to hold the plants upright. Randomized, growing feed corn and soy is not the same as growing marketable vegetables. More resources of all types are needed to grow vegetables.

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square. got it, but what's your battle here? if you're so concerned about the impacts of farming and diet on climate, you wouldn't be eating meat. even the "good stuff," pasture/grass raised, is in many ways worse for the environment because it's much more land and resource intensive. factory farming animals is way more efficient. i guess i find it a strange hill to die on, going after organic farming and non gmo food.

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square. wrote

 ‘got it, but what's your battle here?’ 

Correct information. Simple as that.

 ‘ if you're so concerned about the impacts of farming and diet on climate, you wouldn't be eating meat. even the "good stuff," pasture/grass raised, is in many ways worse for the environment because it's much more land and resource intensive. 

‘ You’re right. That’s why I hunt to provide myself meat that’s not from a factory farm 

 ‘factory farming animals is way more efficient.’ 

Yes, however it still causes a great amount of environmental damage and resource depletion. All the feed needs to be grown and shipped in from somewhere to feed all that livestock and it’s not coming from a field across the road from the ranch. 

 ‘i guess i find it a strange hill to die on, going after organic farming and non gmo food.’

 I disagree. Again, its about correct information. Just because a food is organic and non gmo doesn’t mean it’s not causing environmental damage and resource depletion. Any factory farmed food has a large negative impact on the environment and resource depletion. Take organic and non gmo foods – they are allowed to chemically engineered pesticides that have known health and environmental damages.

1  · 
square.

you're telling me 100% of the meat you eat is meat you hunt? nothing bought on a free-range farm? if so, much of my point is moot for you personally. but on a large scale this isn't sustainable for everyone to do, which circles back to my other points.. also to be clear, i'm not advocating for factory farming. just pointing out that's it's much more efficient in some ways (not always a good thing)

 · 
square.

i hope you're growing all your own non-gmo, organic, pesticide-free non-commercial-soil vegetables too...

 · 
randomised

Guess my understanding of factory farming isn’t what it is...

 · 

square - I never said that I get all my meat from hunting. I get about 200 pounds of meat a year from hunting though. I just prefer it that way. My point is that organic and non gmo food doesn't mean it's good / better for you or the planet when they come from most factory farms.

You seem to have swung wildly around on this topic.  You started off criticizing my comment that eating a vegetarian or plant based diet isn't necessarily as good for the environment as people think it is.  Now you're defending factory farming and pissed that I dare say anything bad about organic and non gmo foods.

2  · 
SneakyPete

I think you guys agree on more than that which you disagree.

3  · 
square.

i agree sneaky. chad, i'm mostly responding to your lengthy point by point rebuttals to each one of my posts. i tried to end this by agreeing earlier.. i'm not swinging wildly, i clearly said that i'm not a proponent of factory farming (please read above, you forgot to quote those parts!) but that in some cases it's ironically more efficient than free-range in terms of land use when it comes to animals. was very clear on that.

 i guess i'm trying to reconcile your animosity towards plant based farming over animal farming, which the solar analogy was about; in my mind animal production is responsible for far more carbon emission than plant-based farming, so it's a bigger problem to address.

 · 
square.

this should have ended here- i think i was confused with rando for promoting factory farming.

i hate the internet..



1  · 

It's ok square. It can be difficult in a form like this to keep track of things.

2  · 
...tumbleweed...

...I’m not dead either;-). And boy golly, do I have something to say about killing things!! Hell yes.  Do most of you eat meat? I do.  And I kill it when I can.  Ask me why? Ps: missed you all!!

Sep 16, 20 3:34 am  · 
 · 
snooker-doodle-dandy

You still making Goat Cheese?

 · 
...tumbleweed...

LB, I’m out of the loop, but what do you think would be the best situation for your son?  (Mine is only entering school, so we are doing homeschool).

Sep 16, 20 3:46 am  · 
 · 
...tumbleweed...

...I came here to see how the politics got nuts! Ha. Shoot me. 

Sep 16, 20 3:50 am  · 
4  · 

This got a bit out of hand with hunting, didn’t it?


Here’s something better - several pant sizes and a shirt size down since surgery. 

Sep 16, 20 10:12 pm  · 
13  · 
citizen

That's great, Josh. How are you feeling, energy-wise, etc?

 · 
awaiting_deletion

-20 lbs so far...heart issues on my end, good as long as I only pretty much eat meat! Did you know when you WFH, you won't even get to a mile in a day stepwise.

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Change the clothes, keep the belt. Put new notches in it.

3  · 

Ratchet belt - no holes, cut off the end as needed. As far as energy goes, definitely get a bit fatigued in the afternoons which will probably stick around for a few more weeks.

1  · 
citizen

Do not cut off the belt end! That's the living trophy you carry around with you.

4  · 
Non Sequitur



Cheers Josh.

2  · 

Way to go Josh! As others have said keep the larger belts, wear them as bandoleers to hold AD markers in the future when you loose more weight! You got this!

 · 

On a side note I don't think it was about hunting but something to do with vegetarianism and plant based diets. ;) 

 · 
tduds

"Did you know when you WFH, you won't even get to a mile in a day stepwise." You do if you have a puppy. 

Also, great progress Josh! Happy to see you're doing well and also posting here again.

1  · 
archanonymous

wait, hold up. You are still wearing pants these days?

2  · 

If I worked from home I wouldn't wear pants.

 · 
citizen

I say 'yes' belt, 'no' pants. Problem solved.

2  · 

I am not wearing pants at home, just workout shorts. However my first week back in the office is next week (we’re doing half one week, half the next)

 · 

So yes to a belt but no pants for the in office stuff next week?

 · 

I’m wearing jorts to the office.

1  · 

With a belt?

 · 
Non Sequitur

I wore red pants to the office yesterday

 · 

You're Canadian though - you wear and do all types of weird stuff.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

I... yes, I certainly do.

1  · 

I did buy some orange chinos because they were on clearance and will only fit for a few weeks so why the hell not?

2  · 
archanonymous

you could make orange your new color... isn't there an industrial designer who dresses only in orange?

 · 
citizen

I just bought some orange cheetos, and if you're not careful that orange becomes your new color whether you like it or not.

 · 

Red, if you go flaming hot.

1  · 
tduds

I love orange pants. Have a few, but been switching to more ochre / yellow lately. My wife hates orange. Funny since we're both redheads.

1  · 
SneakyPete

I'd strongly recommend buying cheap white jeans (usually on sale at the end of the season to the tune of 5 bucks since dudes don't buy white pants all that frequently) and dyeing them yourself with whatever color you want. I have a spectrum of pants.

2  · 
tduds

Spectrum of Pants would be a good album name

5  · 

I’m glad Balkins can’t post in TC, he would have ruined this with a history of pants.

7  · 
archanonymous

SP - do your legs end up being colorful the day after you wear them?

 · 
tintt

Painters pants are white. My husband wears them a lot. :)

 · 
SneakyPete

No, and they haven't faded or stained my other laundry either. Rit sells a dye set that works really well.

 · 
archanonymous

i used to dye my skateboard wheels with Rit, love the stuff!

1  · 

"Why don't you go and put your trousers on?" 

"Alright, hold your horses. Head! Pants! Now!"

3  · 
citizen

Don't you just love that information superhighway thingy?

Khaki Pants, Khakis & Chinos: A Classic Style Staple — Gentleman's Gazette
5  · 

Photoshop that into a circle with the feet toward the center and you've got the "Spectrum of Pants" album label for the vinyl and CD.

1  · 
randomised

All I notice now are the boring white and blue shirts.

 · 

Josh Mings wrote: 

"I’m glad Balkins can’t post in TC, he would have ruined this with a history of pants."

You sir win the internet for the rest of the week. 

 ::bows in appreciation::

4  · 

Stupid pants are smaller than the same size pants I had in my closet. Gotta wait a few weeks to wear orange pants (or go with a muffin top....I choose the former)

2  · 

Hunting, decapitating turkeys, industrial agriculture, vegetarianism and veganism and their environmental effects one day ... then belts, pants, weight loss, dyeing clothing yourself the next day. 

Common throughout, Simpsons memes. 

Don't ever change TC. Don't. Ever. Change.

Sep 17, 20 5:25 pm  · 
11  · 

I think we may have exhausted our 'weird' topics for a while. Give me a few weeks and I'm sure something interesting will happen that I can post about and bring another whirlwind of interesting if not disjointed discussion. Also more Simpson memes.

1  · 
Wood Guy

I have an unlimited supply of weird topics, I just don't want to freak you all out.

4  · 

Freak away . . .

2  · 
SneakyPete

2020 just got worse.

Sep 18, 20 7:47 pm  · 
1  ·  4
curtkram

i can't even, and i don't know how to move forward anymore

1  ·  1
tduds

I saw the sun for the first time in 10 days. I was happy for 20 minutes.

2  · 
tduds

Hearty chuckle at thumbs-downing your own post.

2  · 
tduds

My wife put on Tom Waits' "Bawlers" as soon as she got the news. So that's how we're doing.

1  · 
SneakyPete

I hope you and your wife are safe, tduds.

1  · 

I got put in Twitter jail for telling Mitch to go jump off a cliff. That’s a Midwest colloquialism for GTFO

6  · 
awaiting_deletion

don't be such cowards.

 ·  2
tduds

Thanks Pete - we're good, in the grand scheme of things. The smoke has finally cleared the valley (thanks to some spectacular overnight thunderstorms that woke us up at 3am) and at least that catastrophe is behind us.

1  · 
tduds

We almost never get lightning in the PNW, and our house has a fantastic view to the north from a hilltop. So it was a rare treat to lay awake in bed with the curtains open and watch the storm roll through. Cathartic, in a way, even if I was exhausted this morning.

1  · 
SneakyPete

I miss thunderstorms so much, one of my favorite phenomena.

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

I got this last night, before I found out;

https://surlybrewing.com/beer/...


4  · 
SneakyPete

Chug it. You might feel better, you might puke.

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Split up over two nights.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

wise man...but when you puke the demons are released...are you blasting Witch House when drinking that?

 · 
bowling_ball

Buncha lightweights in here

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Whatcha talking?

 · 
bowling_ball

Wife is out of town so today's been weed / weed / weed / 2 pints of 7.5% IPA / weed / 2 glasses of wine / probably more weed before bed.... I walked 5 miles and got tons of non-work work done around the house today. Work hard AND play hard.

2  · 
randomised

only when the wife is out of town?

1  · 
bowling_ball

randomised - no, not really. But a solo weekend is good from time to time

1  · 
tduds

Love a good bachelor weekend - eat trash food and listen to all the music my wife hates. I'm so simple.

4  · 
Jaetten

So, after a 2hr hike this morning, go up the single track 50mph road home and lords behold, a hgv REVERSING onto another 50mph road via a blind junction and no banksman. 

Sep 20, 20 1:27 pm  · 
 · 
Wood Guy

I've never driven a tractor trailer truck, but have spent a fair amount of time towing a construction trailer. It SUCKS to get stuck in a position where your only option is to back out into traffic. No truck driver does it on purpose--only when they don't know the area, GPS or other directions have taken them astray. When I see a driver in that position I know they don't want to be there and will often stop and put my flashers on to warn other drivers.

 · 
Jaetten

He was following sat nav, it tried to take him down narrow winding roads. I backed up into a passing place, but he go out and shouted for me to pass him, just enough space to do it. I presume he didn't want to risk a collision. Once you get to the top of the hill, there's a no entry for 7.5t+ sign, but you have to go all the way up to see the sign. He did get out fine. Hopefully the junction will be getting a no hgv sign and a mirror for emerging traffic. We'll see!

1  · 
Jaetten

Meant to be above!

Sep 21, 20 9:57 am  · 
 · 
JLC-1

this is cool https://how-old-is-this.house/...

Sep 21, 20 11:31 am  · 
4  · 
tduds

That is cool! I'd love to see one for US cities.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

would be easy with NYC's data, its noted but not a graphic yet as far as I know.

1  · 
randomised

I’ve had to map it myself for NYC couple of years ago, merge the data spreadsheet with a GIS map, pretty fun stuff to play with though.

 · 
mightyaa

That is pretty cool. I know a lot of jurisdictions actually do have all the historic information. Once upon a time, I chaired the local Historic Board (south metro Denver) and part of our job was to conduct historic surveys (hire researchers to document every address in a set area). So we had original construction, architect/builder if known, and modifications as well as entire legal descriptions and historic covenants/easements and photographs on record (historic and current). It's available to the public through the local library and Historic Board liaison office. When I was in office, we had everything around our downtown and older (pre-1900's) neighborhoods. Basically, it was in part to assist us in the public education and trying to get historic designations.

2  · 
bklyntotfc

Someone already did this for NYC based on open source data: http://bdon.org/building-age-nyc/. I'm waiting for them to link all of the old tax photos of buildings w/in a map, so you can just click on a property and see photos from the '40's and '80's.

 · 
JLC-1

looks great, but it doesn't seem to be working at all

 · 
JLC-1

my bad, you said it wasn't linked, I thought you could see the actual age by clicking

 · 
axonapoplectic

These stupid day long video conferences and people wonder why no one is getting anything done. Plus if you schedule a meeting anytime between 11 and 1 I’m going to be eating potato chips the whole time with my mic on and my camera off.


I have come to really appreciate people who do 30 minute video conferences with a hard stop. 

Sep 22, 20 12:11 am  · 
2  · 
archanonymous

I am a zoomthauritarian. Start exactly on time, no recaps for all the late fuckers, and call it "done" as soon as we stop discussing relevant items. I try to do 30 minutes but then the consultants moan it isn't enough time so I usually just schedule an hour then cut it off at 30.

 · 

I’d love to do this with municipalities. I have another probably 2-3 hour long zoom meeting with one tonight.

 · 

Y’all, the first day back in the office was a huge self esteem boost, both personally (lots of Holy shit you look great) and professionally (you’re really kicking ass lately and we’re hearing lots of praise).

Sep 22, 20 8:21 am  · 
11  · 
Non Sequitur

You should add "kicking-ass" to your business card.

1  · 
atelier nobody

...and taking names.

 · 

Phase 1 : Kick ass

 · 

Phase 2: Take names

 · 

Phase 3: PROFFIT!

 · 
SneakyPete

Phase 4: Prophet?

 · 

Yes but only after you make money.

 · 

And work with dictators.

1  · 
Wood Guy

Huzzah!

 · 
Bench

Knocked off one more ARE. Celebrated with some choice local craft beers. All this quarantine has been good for providing plenty of study time, so silver linings everywhere i guess? Work with what ya got.

Sep 23, 20 9:09 am  · 
6  · 
tintt

Congrats. What is this free time thing you speak of? No kids, huh.

1  · 
Bench

Accurate!

 · 
shellarchitect

Congrats! Enjoy that free time!

 · 
Non Sequitur

Fun stuff. Cheers

1  · 

Guys, over the last two weeks I've moved (downsized) from one beloved house to a new one, my work deadlines are off the charts, the fuckery of this country's political situation seriously makes me worried that a civil war is imminent, and likely deserved, I am under severe stress. But I'm checking in here today because:

It's abracadabra's birthday! The FOUNDER of TC completes another year around the sun, may we all be so lucky!

Orhan, you are the GOAT.


Sep 23, 20 10:51 am  · 
7  · 
tintt

I just pulled my kid from public school / zoom school this morning. No more of that shitshow!

Sep 23, 20 11:34 am  · 
3  · 
SneakyPete

What happened?

 · 
tintt

Zoom school happened.

 · 

My wife teaches HS, and my kiddo started online preschool for an hour a day so we've reenacted this cartoon IRL. My kiddo is the second from the left, on the top row. My wife's class is mostly black rectangles though as no one turns on their camera.

(Cartoon Source)

1  · 
Non Sequitur

inappropriately walked in front of the webcam again I gather?

 · 
tintt

My kid is second from the left top row too (2nd grade). But her camera is usually off. I got zoom lectured by the teacher yesterday for not making sure my kid was doing all the busy work. Then I overheard the teacher showing her tats to the kids.

 · 
awaiting_deletion

apparently some schools around here require the teachers to drive into the classroom and teach from there, since many just slacked off last semester. my 12 year is now actually occupied for school day hours, last semester, was done within 2 hours everyday...

 · 
Bench

Can't help but notice that my intake of Rage Against the Machine has increased exponentially over the last few months; my pessimism seems to track with the current ongoing political climate in America.

Sep 23, 20 3:31 pm  · 
2  · 
randomised

To curb the intake of RATM, can I advise some Urban Dance Squad?

 · 

Joe Cocker. Mellow enough to keep you happy with enough soul to keep you intersted.

 · 

Earth, Wind & Fire. As in the leadup to the 2008 election, and even moreso now, I find soul music by Black Americans to be the most soothing and hopeful for me.

 · 
SneakyPete

I think you'd like this set, Donna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqg_ZzThDU

 · 
archanonymous

I think Bad Brains is the degree of separation between classic Soul Music and RATM.

 · 
archanonymous

Its crazy how relevant and current this still is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga5ZbMMZ6Hk

 · 
awaiting_deletion

/\ I'm learning nothing has changed since the mid 90's cultulrally in our world...20 hour day so far and still going...

 · 
randomised

4hrs to go!

 · 
awaiting_deletion

yes, just did the 4hrs of sleep, based on my fit bit, I always hit 4 hours deep sleep and then the rest is light. I've always felt this way and accordingly have found all you really need is 4 hours of sleep. call it irony or just flat out denial and stupidity on my behalf, but the very philosophy I'm into lately (marc fisher, looks like this one was in a Dutchland hall (I understood 60% of intro)link) - TIME.

1  · 
Wood Guy

Over the last few years I get 4-5 hours of sleep more than half the time, and 7+ hours once a week at best. It's survivable but takes a toll. In the last ten years I've gone from looking ten years under my age to ten years over. Even light sleep is restful. I think the brain may only need a few hours to sort experiences into memory, but the body needs more time to recharge.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

5hrs max, hard cap, per night, every day for me. maybe stretched to 6hr if I had a few Belgian triples the night before.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

Wood Guy I think it's the opposite for me, in 4 hours of deep sleep the body is 100% and unless my brain feels warm (sometimes) its the light sleep in and out of dreams which does a good reset....NS get more sleep bruh or Belgian!

1  · 
Non Sequitur

I did go out to the liquor store to score a few Belgians today...

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

neuce....twas my birthday week, someone got me a mini-keg! and my 70+ year old booklets of older docs on Jamestown history from like 350 years ago came in, smells musty, how did they build back then...I'm a total looser, drinking and cad'ing Colonial time wall sections!

4  · 
Wood Guy

My birthday was last week, wife got me/us a wine club subscription--we're learning to be wine snobs!

4  · 
citizen

I'm glad to hear others' sleep habits, and relieved that I'm not the only one running short.  

And HB, Wood Guy and D.D

1  · 

I'm sorry, citizen, you know I like you but I find this hilarious. I did not hide your comment, but this is what I see when I look at the blog post.



Sep 25, 20 4:56 pm  · 
 · 
citizen

LOL, Donna. I know you wouldn't do this-- and it is funny, you're right. And kind of sad. I never though I was prescient, but maybe I should look into this ability.

I posted to see if the apparently-very-brittle Mitch McEwen would exercise all that intellect in customary fashion. And she did not disappoint, unless you appreciate things like tolerance.

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Citizen, that's awfully presumptive isn't it? What makes you think that bloggers have control over their blog posts? They don't. Not yet.

 · 
SneakyPete

You posted that comment and when it got deleted you use it to make a sweeping statement about the blog author? That's a troll with no substance.

 · 
citizen

That's totally fair, I'll concede. I was presuming that Mitch McEwen deleted the comment in question (and a raft of others), which I don't know to be true. I based the assumption on comparative rarity of comment deletion around here, and the uproar over the practice at another particular thread. 

If I'm wrong about that, I apologize to Mitch.

1  · 
SneakyPete

There seems to have been an increase in the deletion of comments that have no purpose other than to be inflammatory in Blogs and News articles.

 · 

Just here to confirm that bloggers have no moderating ability for the comments on their posts. The bloggers probably have a lot of pull in asking for comments to be moderated (I haven't tested this theory), but we can't do it ourselves.

 · 
SneakyPete

That seems like it would disincentivise people from blogging here. Why put your ideas out there if someone can spam troll you, even if only for a few minutes before you can contact a moderator?

 · 

Cause the audience you get here is bigger and easier to access than you would likely get on your own without a fair bit of self-promotion

2  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

As I understand, it's being planned, but fires in socal.

2  · 
awaiting_deletion

/\ good. freedom of deletion! every blogger shall have this right.

sometimes, making a point requires not allowing others to make a point, etc...


 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

^ sometimes, making a point, is not caring if others have a point to make.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

you say something?

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Hmmmm, could've sworn I heard something...;)

 · 
awaiting_deletion

que? (hide this), hahaha. that is the pathetic trait of milllenials or Z's or whatever. the inability to take on challenging thought or disagreement in words without getting emotional...

1  · 

DTL, it's one thing to take on challenging thought. It's another to spend time and and energy trying, for example, to figure out how many people can safely COVID-distance on a flat earth before someone falls off the edge. There's no benefit to arguing with someone whose "facts" aren't facts.

3  · 
awaiting_deletion

lmao, good one, well written. totally get that angle.

 · 
randomised

“apparently-very-brittle” etc. “tolerance” that actually says much more about the moderators than the authors, it’s the mods that apparently don’t allow certain comments when there is a non-white person involved. There is, in my experience, some kind of subconscious bias in that sense, being overprotective of non-whites, which is kind of degrading, people can stand up for themselves, but smothering discussions before they are even about to happen won’t allow that standing up, which are missed opportunities as even the topic or thread whatever would benefit from such on-topic discussions, in my opinion (obviously).

 · 
citizen

Very helpful to know that bloggers don't apparently do the silencing. (Again, my apologies to Mitch McEwen.) 

I wonder if the selective comment deletion isn't just good, old-fashioned hospitality. They manage to snag an Ivy-affiliated blogger to post occasionally; they keep comments open, with fingers crossed for praise and agreement; then axe other comments to avoid discomfort that might scare off the author from any future posting.

It's the same principle as shutting the dog into a closed bedroom when fancy company comes over. And while annoying, certainly within bounds for a private organization. Just a theory...

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

citizen, I'm actually not sure why Mitch isn't at editor status. The blogs are more for students and for half-baked ideas by people like myself. I believe you've been on archinect as long as I have and you'll notice over the years it's always had this "progressive political" approach to architecture, usually failing and anyone having any success at it becomes a blogger or writer, not a bad thing, but I think this constant demand for a "progressive political" agenda is silly sometimes. also, why are the threads like this or politics central far more active than any other architecture thread (except guess the plan). its literally the same half dozen people that frequent the 'nect argueing amonst each other about essentially - bull shit....your last paragraph is correct. some of us regulars "embarass" the other regulars. some are even banned from thread central.

 · 
citizen

I consider my ideas at least two-thirds baked. Maybe even three-quarters.

 · 
randomised

I prefer my ideas medium-rare...

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

#notallmodsarethesame

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

#websiteeditorsaremodsonsteroids

 · 
randomised

That explains the ‘roid rage ;-)

 · 
b3tadine[sutures]

.

 · 

I'm burning out.  Running 13 projects at once is too much.  My saving grace is that deadlines are staggered.

Still not doing much if any overtime but just one more project and I'll be forced to work 45-50 hours a week for the rest of the year.  

I can't wait for my vacation in a couple of weeks.


:sigh:  back to work. 

Sep 30, 20 4:14 pm  · 
2  · 
Wood Guy

I hear you. I have 15 "active" jobs, 9 open but that I don't have to do much for, and I'm currently courting 20 potential projects, many of which are likely to go to contract. They are all residential and many of them are small, but several are large renos or new homes. I work alone. Keeping track of 40+ clients and programs is proving to be too much, no surprise!

 · 
tintt

You know those machines that make and stretch saltwater taffy? I feel like that taffy. I get pulled apart in one direction and then the other, and another. And nobody even likes taffy.

2  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

What phases are your jobs in, that matters too.

 · 

Concept (4) , SD (4), , DD (2), CD (1), CA (2). I'm not counting the proposals. Everything is moving fast though so I expect at least six project Concept and SD phases to move to CD's by the end of the month.

 · 
shellarchitect

WTF! Are you designing dog houses? That seems crazy fast!

1  · 

Was that for WoodGuy or myself?

 · 
Wood Guy

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread, just commiserating. Even my smaller jobs take more than a month to go from SD to CD!

 · 

The jobs I'm referencing are smaller and tenant improvement. :(

1  · 
shellarchitect

Chad, My comment
that looks much meaner than I intended.... I’m amazed that you can get anyone to commit to a design so quickly

 · 
shellarchitect

Stupid phone comment system!

 · 

Oh I just sit on the clients until they agree. One of the few benefits of being a large man (265 pounds). :)

 · 
Jaetten

think I’ll be buying another orchid tomorrow. I dare say they have become my favourite indoor plant. 

Oct 3, 20 8:25 am  · 
 · 

I think I'm too old for this profession anymore. Another old person in my office and I had a serious dispute with two younger staff over how an RCP is supposed to look because apparently Revit doesn't show the underside of stairs?!? 

We couldn't understand how the stairs and ceiling planes were resolving. I still don't know if the Revit wizards know how it resolves, even though it doesn't show, or if that connection just doesn't exist as something that needs to be designed. I suspect the latter.

Oct 5, 20 10:50 am  · 
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OMG update: we can't put a door where we want one because the wall isn't included in the design option. Revit is a fucking nightmare. Using it is like someone driving into a lake because their map program said "Turn left now".

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Non Sequitur

Donna, while design options are a mess in revit (and honestly should not really be used to make CD... but that's another story), you can turn on whatever you want in whatever view, just like in regular old CAD, if your junior staff knows how to work the graphic controls. Turning on the u/s of stairs is a single click.

edit.  also, making a axo 3d view showing the ceiling to u/s stair is like 3 clicks.  I'd say you need better junior staff but even the staff in my office will struggle with these commands.  It's just not intuitive if all you do is rely on revit to do the "thinking".

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Almosthip

Donna dont blame revit for the lack of ability of your junior staff.

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archanonymous

Totally second what NS is saying above.

Would you rather go back to a paper atlas because some idiots can't make smart decisions when using a GPS? My biggest peeve with Revit is when the users throw their hands up and say "but Revit won't let me do that." What would you do back in CAD days? Draw the damn door in with lines. Why don't they do that now? Who knows. 


Or firm leadership complaining about Revit and how it isn't as beautiful as a CAD (or god-forbid, hand) drawing, or the kids don't know how to use it. Please, if you want to go back to CAD so badly, double the staff on each project and try to find fee to pay for it. Oh and double your insurance too for the inevitable coordination issues that will pop up. (or moreso than projects using BIM correctly)

1  · 
SneakyPete

"design options ... should not ... be used to make CD" Amen. AMEN. I've heard nigtmares about people using them for multiple sets within a model. NO. Options, by their very definition, do NOT belong in a model being used for CDs.

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I started my post with "I'm too old for this" because the kids use Revit in brilliant ways that are just speaking a language I don't know and don't want to take time to learn at this point in my life and career. I'm fine for them to take over; if using Revit to communicate my intentions is what's required every day to be an architect I'm fine to leave the profession to others. What's challenging, and pointless, is trying to PM between junior staff and senior designers while I'm speaking an archaic language in which you draw what you want to see, not just look at what the software shows you, and designers are trying to see what they have been accustomed to seeing for 5 decades, and the whole time I'm trying to moderate between the two the owner is constantly screaming in the background that they can't afford anything so everything we draw will be dumbed down anyway. I've said it before, and I'll say it over and over: give me a good residential kitchen remodel and I'm happy.

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(Specific to archanonymous: my junior staff absolutely FORBID me from using lines. I could totally make the printed (pdf) sheet look exactly like I want it to if I was allowed to use lines. But they won't let me.)

1  · 
tduds

"you draw what you want to see, not just look at what the software shows you" 

I'm a well-known Revit devotee and I 100% agree with this statement. If the software isn't showing you what you want to see, that's on you (*the Architect, not "you" Donna) to fix. My job isn't to create a picture perfect Revit file, it's to communicate a design to a contractor. Whatever it takes to get there.

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tduds

I'm a weird age where I learned CAD in the late 90's, was forced to hand draw (for which I'm thankful) in Undergrad, and watched the Revit shift in real time during the first five-ish years of my career. So I see both sides, but also I disagree frequently with the older AND the younger folks.

Call it middle-school. Neither old nor new. 

4  · 
Non Sequitur

Donna, revit does not give instant satisfaction like cad or sketchup does. It's more like "tell me what you want and come back in an hour".

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archanonymous

I hear you, Donna. Couldn't decide whether to thumbs-up or thumbs-down Jr. staff not letting you use detail lines. :(

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Non Sequitur

^I strongly discourage the use of detail lines in every situation unless it's a 1:5 scale drawing and we've got to show membrane tie-ins and what not... or mild graphic fixes. Never in lieu of families but... they are very useful in a pinch when you don't have time to draft it correctly or your staff is lazy.

2  · 
archanonymous

NS - I agree and discourage it on my projects also, but if a junior shows me a drawing that is missing something and I ask why and the answer is "because revit" I'm going to lose my fuckin mind. 

If they show me a drawing, we review it for actual design content, and then they say "oh btw, I couldn't get this door in in Revit so I drew it with detail lines - can you help me figure it out." I'll be happy as a stoned clam.

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My fervent wish at this moment is to be a stoned clam. That sounds delightful.

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b3tadine[sutures]

The most frustrating thing about this, is the fact that most of the model components are easily manipulated, either through visibility settings, or through simple tricks, that have zero to with "dumb drafting lines".

3  · 
atelier nobody

What frustrates me is that I'm not a Revit user but I have worked with enough power users to have a pretty good Idea of what Revit can actually do.

Junior Staff: "Revit can't do that."

Me::"Yes, it can."

JS: "How?"

Me:...

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With you on that one atelier nobody.

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Non Sequitur

I typically keep my cool at the office but I recently lost it with a senior partner after I was told to check one particular revit project because "it was a good example of details". It was not. Not even close. Everything (and I'm not exaggerating) was a detail line with 99% of the model hidden. 

  • What's this, a window in my wall section? Let me just put a giant mask over this perky thing and draw a few lines to show it as gyp + ACM. 
  • Oh dang, the wall tag family won't work? Let me just trace our office standard tag with detail lines and float a text box inside. 
  • Oh, this is a punched-window with a centre mullion? Dang, don't got a family with that exact configuration, let me just stick 2 typical casement windows together and overlap the frames. Bang, instant window!. Time for lunch.
  • Oh, don't have time to draft up all the required details, let me just draw all the membrane lines at 1:1 and then rescale everything to 1:20 and drop on a sheet.  That'll read crystal clear.
  • and so on... and this is a "senior" arch who claims families are too complicated.


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b3tadine[sutures]

People in my office find it completely acceptable to use generic walls for existing buildings, never thinking of course that there might be ducts penetrating them, or that structural may want to know the construction so they can determine if the joists, or new lintels will work...fuck! Oh, and let's draw exterior walls, of a multi-story building, on each level.....FFS.

1  · 
archanonymous

I'm honestly pretty forgiving of alot of this stuff... as long as the work gets done. People have to come to the realization themselves that the fastest way to get it done... is to do it the right way (or the Revit way) they can't just be told that. 

I'm also so freakin far off piste from what Revit is good at geometry-wise, that it takes a great deal of fuckery to get the projects done, at least for me. I'm no ZHA-level Revit user though either.

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atelier nobody

My other problem is that I wear two hats. When I'm wearing my QC hat, I couldn't care less how they get it done as long as the final PDF is right, but when I'm trying to integrate specifications and QTO with Revit, it matters A LOT that the model and details are done correctly.

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awaiting_deletion

Just tell junior staff to hit "F1" and "figure it out". I find everyone wants a youtube video or their hands held these days. It's software written by people, not rocket science. Like literally search what you want to do, eventually you'll learn the language. Software can conform to anything you want. With that said, sometimes I make $200+ hr hand sketching, sometimes I make that in CAD, sometimes in 3d modeling software, and rarely in Revit (doesn't make sense for most project we do)...whatever works.....

most brilliant moment I ever saw from an old fart -

"I can't do that in this software". - me

grabs sharpie, draws on screen says "that's what I want."- old fart

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awaiting_deletion

as an example. I was certified in Revit 12 years ago. 4 years later an Engineer wanted me to make a Revit file act and look AutoDesk's boiler plant software, not even sure that exists anymore.

Some manuf. had families that did what amounts to "4D" for simulation software..Taco or something...hit F1 a few times, a bit of googling, figured out we really needed the Plant Software (was like $10k) but faked it. he got the job, bing bang boom, installed the MEP crap. So Donna, just tell the junior staff to use F1 if they consider themselves intelligent ;)

Even an architect can fake MEP Bioler Plant design using F1...

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midlander

the essential problem is junior employees who don't recognize what needs to be shown and take no initiative to figure it out. this problem is endemic and platform agnostic. it's the the product of laziness and ignorance, tempered by an unearned sense of self-satisfaction.

1  · 
midlander

your problem Donna is simply not having enough confidence in the process to call out bullshit when someone presents it to you. Revit has some weird behavior in automatically hiding some elements in RCP views and the modeler should look up how that works and figure out a reasonable workaround.

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Donna - I'd just tell your junior staff that it's not impossible in Revit, just difficult and the sooner they figure it out the better future projects will work. AKA - call them out on their BS and lack of understanding in Revit.

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I hear you Chad, but also as a counterpoint: The problem isn't that junior staff don't know Revit. It's that they don't know how 55+yo architects are accustomed to reading/writing the language of drawings. That's not a failure on their part. Either it's my job to teach them how to draw it MY way, or it's MY job to learn how to speak their language, or it's just time for me to let things move along without me (which is, given the state of the world, preferable to me right now).

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atelier nobody

I'm very lucky at my current company to have junior staff who actually want to learn how we used to do it with pencils and 2D CAD, and to understand the details I sketch them instead of just copying them  (and y'all better not be thinking of poaching any of them - I will fight you), but I still run up against "Revit can't do that."

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Non Sequitur

...or counter-point to your counter-point, it's up to the revit users to learn how to bend BIM models to meet both expected graphic standards and maintain BIM flexibility. 

Pro-tip, when someone says "Revit can't do that", 99% of the time, they are speaking from ignorance... unless you're asking your central model to make you a cup of coffee... if that's the case and your staff has figured it out, drop me line because I'm still brewing mine the old fashion way.

1  · 
atelier nobody

A variation on "Revit can't do that" is "I don't have time to figure out how to make Revit do that and still meet the deadline," which I at least have some sympathy for.

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What Non said.

Donna, feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions about what Revit can do.  If I can help I will.  You got this! 

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Oh, I am one for; STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH THE 3D, WE HAVE CD's DUE - #TOFUCKINGMORROW!

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curtkram

people at my office are starting to draw site plans in Revit and coordinating that model with civil. It's horrible, but I get that it's on me to adapt rather forcing my opinions on them. As a side note, there are a handful of comments older people say to those producing the drawings that just make them look old. Like, complaining about line weights while completely missing the really stupid shit that makes the project unbuildable. I'm thinking of making bingo cards, but I'm scared to find out if I'm one of the old people or young people.

3  · 
midlander

lineweights is a lost cause. i remember being exasperated by the inevitable diversion during crits to listen to some crank talking about lineweights in near mystical reverence for their ability to communicate an essence we were failing to express。while even then publications like detail or el croquis present everything in flat black and white without much differentiation of lineweights.

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Non Sequitur

curt, I'm not old but I will crucify someone on improper line weights without a second's thought. Good drawing habits show that the staff cares about the quality of their work and makes me feel more confident that because of this care, there is "less" unbuildable shit peppered everywhere in the drawing set. Side note, we still have not coordinate a site plan with civil. So far it's been CAD import to detail lines because who needs a civil headache when I have line weights to slaughter.

1  · 
tduds

Lineweights are important, but spending 90% of a QA review on lineweights while overlooking obvious code violations is a problem. I may or may not be speaking from experience.

2  · 
Non Sequitur

tduds, code stuff and other important bits are not overlooked... at least in my case, since I hammer those out early in the CD process. Near the end, what is left is cleaning up the drawings to meet standards and legibility, at least on projects that I'm on. Don't know what the B and C teams are up to tho.

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curtkram

I'm all for a good set of drawings, but if your schedule is fucked and you don't have adequate staff something has to give. My point is "lineweights" becomes a crutch for people who clearly have no idea what they're doing, but they need to say something so it looks like they're still relevant. There are things in a set of documents that are more important. Figure that stuff out first. Like make sure the specs are coordinated with the drawings, then you can talk about lineweights.

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tduds

Bingo, curt. That was the essence of my snarky comment above.

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Non Sequitur

Look at you with all your QA time and staff pool consisting of more people than just yourselves.

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Eddie van Halen is dead. I'm sad. 

Oct 6, 20 4:31 pm  · 
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Almosthip

My mom texted me this information before the news broke. Gee mom how did you know?

1  · 
gibbost

Enough already, 2020--you win. 'Eruption' came out 1978. Eddie was a master.

1  · 
SneakyPete

2020 is a year that will be taught in history class, for sure. RIP Eddie.

1  · 
tduds

Only 65, a damn shame.

2  · 
Non Sequitur

Sad face.

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citizen

Now, the 1980s are officially over.  VH was a big part of the soundtrack in studio all those late nights. 

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randomised

Goddamnit Edward!

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awaiting_deletion

fuckin' Dutch!

1  · 
citizen

DTL.DWG:  isn't that a position in the Kama Sutra? Or maybe the Joy of Sex... I can't remember.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

he also played his guitar intentionally out of tune.

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Volunteer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Best movie theme of the decade. 

Oct 6, 20 7:17 pm  · 
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awaiting_deletion

except he didn't write that....

1  · 
archanonymous

I feel like at least 30% of my TC posts are me kvetching about my job while simultaneously extolling the virtues of working for a "top office" as only someone who truly has Stockholm syndrome can. 

Got 3 interviews lined up this week, and really hoping that at least one works out and at the last minute I don't trot out the "thanks, but I don't think I'd be a great fit at your firm" line that torpedoed my last round of interviews. Realizing it is just so hard for me to break out of the routine, the safety I know (even if it is slowly killing me from stress), and the perceived "importance" of working at a "top office."

Oct 7, 20 9:22 am  · 
1  · 
square.

i was in a similar position- the fear will evaporate quickly, and you'll realize exactly how miserable you were once you're surrounded by sane, normal people. quality of life will go way up, and you'll never look back. as you say, that importance is only perceived.

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Non Sequitur

Ditto to the above. No job, office, position is so important that you need to sacrifice yourself for.

4  · 

Ditto, ditto. I was in a position like yours AA. The only think was I wasn't brave enough to leave - it took the 2008 recession and my layoff to realize it wasn't worth it. Now I work to live and balance my life much better. I've had interviews and discussions with firms that wonder why I'm not at a bigger firm in a bigger city doing bigger, better projects. I tell them there is more to my life than architecture.

2  · 
randomised

Having my first real deadline coming up at my new job of one month...stress levels are rising and sleep decreasing, God I hate this part of the job.

Oct 7, 20 1:11 pm  · 
6  · 
awaiting_deletion

beer.

4  · 
square.

always jealous of my friends (basically everyone else) who don't operate in such a neurotic deadline schedule.

1  · 
atelier nobody

I have a story from my early career that might help you feel a little better - but I am too damn busy with my own deadlines to type it out.

1  · 
randomised

First deadline passed rather well, don’t know why I always get so worked up about it, I tell myself afterwards...but with the next deadline approaching I will probably forget that realisation coming Monday. For now it’s weekend and celebrating the 1st birthday of my kiddo!

3  · 

Just finished a few concept images for a proposal meeting today with a client.  Had an 11 hour day yesterday (for me that's a long day) finishing up the drawings.  


Hopefully we get the work. If not I wasted 18 hours of my time. 

Oct 8, 20 12:04 pm  · 
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Well the perspective clients ghosted us. We had a meeting set up but they were a no show.

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citizen

Wow, Chad, that's awful. No contact at all? I can't fathom doing that to someone.

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They came in three weeks ago and wanted to see some conceptual stuff next time they where in town. I started the conceptual design stuff then stopped after they never got back to the partner they where in contact with about when they would be back in town. A week ago they finally got back to us and set the meeting up for today. On Monday they called to see we could do a zoom meeting yesterday. We where all already booked.. Partner contacted them right away (voicemail and email) and told them we where already booked but provided alternative times and days for a zoom meeting. Partner kept calling and emailing to verify they where still coming today. Never heard a a thing.

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citizen

.Planning And Foresight: Rant Alert About Netflix

Made so much more egregious by the frequent contact beforehand, and willingness to accommodate them.  Now where's my ball peen hammer...?

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SneakyPete

Did anyone do the legwork to sniff out whether they were legit to begin with?

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The partner did, yes. I was leery as it's a developer and contractor partnership. The clients where also in the news for just buying land for the development (around 11 acers) from the city.

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randomised

Maybe they will still show eventually, too busy buying land?

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No idea. The land purchase was finalized within a week of our first meeting. Personally I don't care if they come back. Unless they have a good reason for the ghosting I wouldn't want to work with people who are this irresponsible and non responsive. I've told the partners so.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

Happy crazy canuck Thanksgiving!

Oct 11, 20 4:22 pm  · 
2  · 
awaiting_deletion

blame canada!


3  · 
citizen

Hear, hear! How many kilos is that turkey this year?

2  · 

Canadians have thanksgiving? I thought you where all a bunch of socialist heathens with great health care and exquisite manners?

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Non Sequitur

Chad, the only logical reason I have to take up arms (as permitted under the canadian firearms act) is to protect my birth right to stuff my face full of pumpkin pie on the 2nd weekend of october. Insert Braveheart style war cry.

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They may take our lives, but they'll never take our PIE!

1  · 
archiwutm8

Architecture in the limelight it seems.

Oct 12, 20 9:50 am  · 
4  · 

Yikes that's so gross. Ugh.

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That's reprehensible and despicable.

1  · 
JLC-1

must be a profitable enterprise https://archinect.com/news/art...

Oct 12, 20 4:20 pm  · 
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randomised

‘It’s a write off!’ https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ

1  · 
tduds

Long profile of Zumthor & the LACMA debacle in this week's New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/maga...

It's always enjoyable to read good writing about architecture in non-architectural publications. Refreshing to get outside the design bubble and listen to how normal folks interpret our lives & livelihood. 

I have to say, this actually made me think a bit less of Zumthor. 

Oct 13, 20 11:34 am  · 
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midlander

great article thanks. totally fascinating and gives me a better understanding why he does what he does. why does it degrade your view of zumthor? he sounds exactly as obdurate and willful as i imagined. like jorn utzon, willing to go out fighting. and probably in the end right on the big ideas.

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Ugh, SO MANY thoughts on that tduds. 

Zumthor certainly sounds traumatized by his childhood but then also hasn't grown past it at all? 

I kept going back and forth, cheering this: "His starchitect colleagues were faxing it in from nine time zones away. So much for regionalism." then rolling my eyes hard at this “ 'My colleagues are so conceited, they don’t ask me, ‘What do you think? This is your bath.’ ” Like jeez man talk about conceited?!

Images of Kolumba make me weepy with joy. Bruder Klaus hits me SO HARD in its making, but then you hear him say his first girlfriend's pickup line on him was "You look alienated" and ugh I want to vomit. 

I feel like I'm sick to death of old men making "masterpieces". Then I think of Scarpa's Castelvecchio and Saarinen's MIT Chapel and so many other deeply moving, beautiful places - buildings - and I don't want to live in a world without them.


Oct 13, 20 1:34 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur


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5  · 
citizen

"TODAY'S SPECIAL: Brad Pitt, $6.99/lb."

4  · 

That’s pretty cheap for Brad Pitt. Must be running out of work.

3  · 
citizen

That's why it's a special, Josh.

3  · 
JLC-1

I dunno, at 160 lbs. it's still a steep price.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

How much per inch? Hey-oh.

6  · 
citizen

This is a family show, NS.

1  · 
midlander

real people are complex, messy, and often frustrating. doesn't invalidate their lives or work.

2  · 
liberty bell

This is true, midlander. I guess I’m not saying I’m tired of Zumthor’s work, but I am tired of fawning articles about “iconoclastic” old white men. They have their successes, and should bask in them, but, let’s look at younger people and possibilities more.

2  · 
liberty bell

Donna’s Friendly Store is usually very well stocked but some days doesn’t have any fucks to either sell or give.

2  · 
Non Sequitur

Doubtful anyone here picked up the location of the shop (OLG is a clue) but it's actually a few blocks north of my office. I saw the pic on social a while back and saved it for a rainy monday.

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Bench

but is it the French version of OLG! (L'GdLd'O ?)

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randomised

All I saw when reading that article was Zumthor faxing his LACMA revisions from 9 time zones away!

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“Is that dark blotch really it?”

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citizen

According to that sign, Donna, you look amazing for your age! What's your secret? ;o]

1  · 
curtkram

this was kind of fun.  Like, when Doom scrolling was less doom


Oct 14, 20 9:23 pm  · 
1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Adorable.

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atelier nobody

For someone with no formal education on the subject, her observations are quite good.

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Non Sequitur

Little one woke up all feverish... going for testing this morning.  Surprised we lasted this long without the need for testing.

Oct 16, 20 9:09 am  · 
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archanonymous

hope it's just a cold or something benign, hang in there!

2  · 
Bench

Best of luck with the test

1  · 

Aw, hang in there Non, I hope it's all okay.

1  · 
randomised

Ah crap Non, fingers crossed for a negative result! Here’s some Pearl Jam: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=satY_ofTNo4

1  · 
JLC-1

my kid got a cold in college, tested negative, good luck.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

Thanks gang. Liltle one's been asleep since he came back from test centre. Less than 1.5hr round trip + wait. Results in 24-48hr.

7  · 

Hoping for the best for Little Sequitur.

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SneakyPete

Omni Sequitur

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Non Sequitur

Test results came back negative (email at 4am). Still waiting on wife's. I'm still in tip-top shape tho... but that's probably because I'm almost entirely built of day-old cold black coffee.

4  · 
awaiting_deletion

and belgium beer. it's sure proof.

1  · 
citizen

Good news so far, NS. Fingers crossed for the second result. And, correct: never underestimate the awesome power of old coffee and skepticism infused with middle-aged weariness. It's like Superman's underwear.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

We’re all in the clear now and for the record, I’m not middle age. Arg. I’ll have a Belgian double to celebrate.

2  · 
awaiting_deletion

is Arg - Argentinian! fuck you! man. I liked you. Maradona is bullshit. Tony Schumacher and Lothar Matthäus kicked your arse...I'm glad you're family is OK, but we can not have a civil conversation. You're fuckin' Argintenian bullshit...Brazil doesn't even like you and between the motherland and Brazil we have real futball players.....oh wait, that was an arghhhh...in English bruh, I realize you Canadians are backwoods English with perverse French influences, but like the downplayed I'm cranky arg is arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......where shall I send the case of Belgium Peace Beer?

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Non Sequitur

Yes, please send me that Belgian beer case. I’ll hold off my attack beavers for now. Arghhhhhhhh.

1  · 
awaiting_deletion

so you're a true Canuck. PM me bruh, seriously I'll send you a beer (kids are intense man when shit comes up). I'm hoping to score the anti-New England Patriots pack from the source....but what about the badgers?

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OMFG Revit makes my professional life miserable. I don't ever want to have to use it again.

Oct 16, 20 4:40 pm  · 
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tduds

For the right price, I'll use it for you.

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SneakyPete

I'd have quit architecture by now without it.

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Non Sequitur

Donna, it’s because you have not installed the bourbon plugin.

2  · 
midlander

it's a bit like school again, an extended period of frustration and anger, followed by resigned acceptance. in 2 years you won't understand why anyone complains about it.

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midlander

but secretly and never ever around a bim manager you will wonder if there could be a better way...

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square.

i'm quite confident there's a better way. just waiting on those robots..

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awaiting_deletion

What does one have to do to get deleted around here?!?!

Just going to rant before I get deleted (please).  I want to be e·phem·er·al, like as per Rem Koolhass the project that mies van der rohe

See the source image

The House That Made Mies

Did you ever get a tatooo? I never did, I knew I would hate it in three (3) weeks!

hic et nunc



hic et nunc

You're the currency in the real.

Architecture is NOW ephermeral.  Maybe you wanted to be an architect to do something solid, something timely, you know something meaningful and permanent like a Pyramid...nah...it's just currency man, currency.

Rant:  My teenage daughter doesn't believe me that she has a cyber perv old man stalker.  I show her the weird coincidences between my websites and hers and then out of nowhere, she has an account on soundcloud.  she's surprised I have one.  of course I have one, that's where music was cool for a bit or maybe it is again now that teenagers are liking music they don't want their parents to see.

I see her likes - Insane Clown Posse and some bad rap music pervert subjagating wimmin shit, yada yada...she's in deep shit with me.

Here's the difference!

.. when I was sneaking around Ice-T's OG tape in my walkman (i've linked it for the kids) it was just me and Ice-T.  It was me and my world and some shit that had an opinion on it.  It was not some dude (and I'm certain an old man) 1.5 hours away (yes we can trace people on the internet) or maybe its foreign agents given her Edgy Russian music selection - icepeak.

When I was a kid and had issues with society and my parents and I rebelled there weren't any weird random perverts offering helping hands, it was me and then I would go to my parents and say - I hate all your fundamentalist religious bullshit and we'd talk.  No different here for the most part (my daughter is a mini me) but there wasn't some perv who likes my little pony along for the ride (and I'll find you!)...these fucking peeps exist -wormhole

Rant over.

Now delete me or just email me these guy's addresses.

- toodles




Oct 17, 20 3:29 pm  · 
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awaiting_deletion

ha, I forgot the point - Modernism is fleeting (ephemeral). hence post - modernism. Most humans aren't modern....see works by Albert Camus, and a timely one


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randomised

Had Ice-T’s OG on tape too! Ah the memories, all the depressed kids walking around impersonating Kurt Cobain, me pretending to be a gangster...good times!

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randomised

“ What does one have to do to get deleted around here?!?!”

Are you contemplating forum suicide by moderator? You could also just autodelete and spare them a lifelong trauma!

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Non Sequitur

No UDS reference? I’m confused. Also, I’ll put my teenage bleached hair, baggy jeans, plaid jacket and wallet chain up against your IceT any day.

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curtkram

ranomized, i think it's a moon cycle thing. he just likes to get deleted every few months.

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randomised

Haha, I’m sure there’s an UDS song for that Non...my musical upbringing was quite different though, from MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice straight to Tim Dog and Ice-T, from there onto Bodycount back to Jimi Hendrix and forward to Suicide in Seattle with a side of Britpop and experimental Radiohead to electronic music and big beat back to Jacques Brel, post-punk and post-colonial African stuff. Very eclectic and random, some would say all over the place, basically how I drink my coffee or eat my eggs and connected to life events and experiences that inform my musical preferences...

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Non Sequitur

Had both Brel and Pearljam at my wedding ceremony. Check-mate.

1  · 
randomised

Bet you got married wearing a flannel shirt and a turtleneck then!

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awaiting_deletion

more observations on reality.

someone at Mutual Liberty Insurance liked this movie

Let's get tacos vs. Let's go get a taco.



Oct 17, 20 3:53 pm  · 
1  · 
tintt

I dreamed I was back in arch studio last night. They sent me to "detention" for being oppositional. hahaha

Oct 18, 20 12:46 pm  · 
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citizen

Awesome!  Was it like The Breakfast Club?  If so, which one were you?  (Anthony Michael Hall here.)

Amy Webb on Twitter: "For every Boomer who hates Millennials and for every  Millennial who hates Boomers just remember there's a generation in the  middle who hates you both. 									
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tintt

uhh Bender.

1  · 
citizen

It's funny, tintt, because that's one of my recurring stress dreams: finally showing up to studio in the 4th week, once everyone else is busy and well underway on projects. No detention, just the anxiety of being so far behind. I dream this several times a year.

1  · 
tintt

Detention in my dream was more like a therapist's office. They told me I was "OK" and to not listen to the oppressors. I was like, I'm NOT Ok (oppositional) and refused to go back to studio.

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citizen I have the same dream several times a year. Every time everyone else is so far along and I'm screaming at myself "Why did you fuck around the whole semester and not work on this?!?!"

1  · 
archanonymous

My recurring nightmare is that I get to graduation week and they are like "ohhh, you didn't satisfy your math requirements, you'll have to stay another year to take calculus."

Oct 19, 20 11:47 am  · 
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midlander

me too! which is particularly inexplicable because I was an excellent student in math.

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atelier nobody

My usual dream is: it's finals week and I suddenly remember a class I haven't actually been to since the first week of the semester. I actually had something sort of like this happen in real life. I didn't forget I had the class, but I was drinking a LOT that quarter and it was an 8:00 AM class, so I basically blew it off, but couldn't quite shake my Presbyterian roots so I showed up for the review week and the final...it was the only time I ever got an honest-to-Pete "F" in any class.

Oct 20, 20 12:12 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

sorta had something very similar while still in school. I audited many elective classes and signed up for some but on occasion, dropped them when I realized the final req (like a giant research essay) would conflict with my arch degree deadlines. I did not need the elective credits but still took one or 2 per semester just because. Anyways, recurring dream during my undergrad was always panic when I realized I had a day or so to finish that paper from a long-dropped class. Studio habits at the the time certainly did not help.

1  · 

I routinely had dreams where I forgot to attend a physics class until the middle of the semester when I saw my grade was an F. Backstory is that I had signed up for the class IRL but dropped it pretty quickly because it wasn't going to work with my schedule that semester ... but for some reason it stuck in my mind as a responsibility I wasn't fulfilling to haunt my dreams. Even in later years when I had completed the science requirement with another course, I'd still have the dream that I had forgotten to attend this physics class.

1  · 
tintt

I have the recurring dream about forgetting to go to physics class too.

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curtkram

I actually didn't go to physics class. I guess that means I lived your dream.

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citizen

Gaaah! Physics class in 1st year... so dull. And difficult, for me. It was the first time I realized in my entire schooling that I didn't have to go to class, and nobody would care or say anything. So I rarely went. What freedom! Then came the D, and I was mortified. I humiliated myself in the instructor's office trying to explain something (acceleration, maybe?) in a feeble attempt to save my grade. No dice. 

Fast forward about 15 years and I'm back on campus in the same building. (The firm had been hired for renovations.) I walk by and see him sitting in that same office. Rather than stroll down memory lane, I just smiled and kept moving.

1  · 
tintt

My dad was a physics teacher so I think I had some inert ability cause somehow I felt confused all those semesters but ended up ok. Glad I studied it unlike that slacker curtkram. :)

(edit to add, Freudian slip was not intended)

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Non Sequitur

My new realization is that I can't be bothered with staff who honestly don't give a fuck about how construction works.  Having spent a few frustrating days trying, and failing, to convince one of the "designers" that you can't just make up shit on working drawings. Double the frustration level when those drawings are super duper basic like stud size and location of grade or structural levels.  No, I'm not asking the client to demo half that existing block wall + lintel just because your arbitrary magical window trim feature won't fit.

Give me one hour in the evening and a well chosen craft beer and I'll do what you tried to do over 2 days. /rant

Oct 20, 20 9:03 am  · 
2  · 
randomised

apparently you can be bothered about that

1  · 
Non Sequitur

perhaps poor choice of words. should have written "have no patience for".

1  · 
thatsthat

We had one of those types. She no longer works here.

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archanonymous

I agree with your larger point, but simultaneously think all the fun in doing CD's is making shit up on working drawings! 

At least assuming you are making up fun details that there isn't a ton of precedent or standardization for.

2  · 
mightyaa

I couldn't be a teacher. I don't have the temperament. I have had to have that 'talk' with some that I'm actually paying for their ability to think instead of just their time.

2  · 
randomised

exactly archanonymous, we are not just picking things from a catalogue of existing solutions and products, where's the fun in that, don't need to study very long to do that...

1  · 
archi_dude

My last firm had a designer like that. They fired the Nonsequiter of the office when those problems kept arising in CA. I left shortly after. Let me know real fast management was just as clueless.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

side note, It's actually one of my responsibilities to train staff in all sorts of things since I'm A. the youngest in the management circle, 2. the most well-rounded in terms of graphics, CD, CA and software knowledge, and iii. the most disciplined and consistent. So I've changed my focus on this one person and broke tasks down into simpler steps with plenty of examples/explanations.

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Almosthip

I see what you did there...... A. 2. iii. Very disciplined and consistent.... :P

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citizen

Good going, NS. Frustrating at times, I'm sure. But if it's part of the job description, so be it. And if the youngster holds up their end of the bargain, could be a satisfying (if not quick) outcome.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

Citizen, this person is 4 years older than me.

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bowling_ball

I've been in a similar situation a couple years ago.... Me: late 30s, climbing into management. Tech: Early 50s, never made any career advancement but refused to put in the work (or even ASK) to be given more responsibility. Got frustrated at having to take orders from somebody with two decades less experience. He started fucking the dog so we let him go. Nice guy but it's a team effort, and if you don't want to play the game, get off the field.

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citizen

Got it, NS. And bummer, yes.

This is extra-curricular, but I wonder if a visit to a job site would help. I'll never forget the first time I walked a project in framing that I had done the CDs for. It literally opened a new world of understanding-- as it did/does for most of us, I'd imagine.  If someone's never actually seen an actual control joint, or a double top plate, or a joist hanger, or a jamb shimmed into an opening, etc, all those funny lines remain completely abstract.

6  · 
Non Sequitur

Access to site is a big plus. Few get any CA experience and too many never leave the comfort of their expensive office chair.

2  · 
proto

OR continuing ed reqt got halved to 12hrs due to the pandemic -- that ought to ease the year end scramble for HSW's :)


Oct 22, 20 12:00 pm  · 
1  · 
Non Sequitur

My deadline was extend 6 months and they removed the carry over cap. I’ve already filled in enough to complete the next 2y cycle.

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bowling_ball

They extended ours by 6 months as well, but the start date of the next window wasn't changed, so now there's 6 months of having to choose which courses go where. And I don't think most people have figured that out yet, and are in for a big surprise in a couple years.



Oct 22, 20 5:47 pm  · 
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bowling_ball

That was a response to NS and proto. Something fucked up, posting from my phone

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Today I learn how to use Design Options in Revit. Kill me now. Or at least give me bourbon to get going early.

Oct 23, 20 10:25 am  · 
2  · 
Non Sequitur

I'll wait for the rant in about 45min.

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Almosthip

10 years of revit under my belt. Never once used design options. Better to start a seperate file .

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Non Sequitur

I've used design options once, it was a waste of time.

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archanonymous

Much better to overlay a bunch of detail lines on a base plan, then sketch the design options, then draw what you want in Revit once.

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tduds

Options are great if you use them in a very specific way, and an absolute nightmare if you don't. Most people I've encountered who use Options don't use them in that specific way.

2  · 
SneakyPete

Design Options are a tool meant for use during SD and then jettisoned during DD. They don't play well with CDs, and they don't play well with people who don't organize their model well. 


I hate filing drawers, because when I put everything in one folder in the back, I can't get to my stuff without removing the drawer, and what are all of these other folders for, anyhow?!

Almosthip, don't take that personally, the thumbs down is for the sentiment, not the poster. The moment anyone starts creating multiple models for a workshared project the wheels start to come off.

2  · 
Almosthip

why are we worksharing in DD stage?  Once a concept is decided on there would only be one file, with worksets for all.

 ·  1
tduds

wwwwhat?

1  · 
SneakyPete

Worksharing allows multiple staff members within an office to work simultaneously in one central file without conflict. Without this it would limit work to one user per file. 

Any time you create orphan files with options in them, someone has to manually cut and paste them together, leading to unnecessary rework and updating. 

Design Options are fine, as long as you follow some simple guidelines. 

If you are forcing views to show a specific (non-primary) option, you're probably making things complicated, either because the person above you on the totem pole doesn't know (or care) about how the process works (Revit or not, running multiple competing ideas in the design for longer than it takes to choose one is a terrible idea) or you don't.

If you leave DOs in the file after a decision has been made, you're making it harder on yourself. 

If you try to use multiple sets of options within the same area, you're setting yourself up for failure, as elements can't be divided between option sets.


Etc.


It's just like ANY tool, it has its use, and the old "when all you're used to using is a hammer, all you see are nails" adage applies.

2  · 
SneakyPete

Oh, and before anyone accuses me of being some Revit apologist, I hate it, I just hate it less than all of the other options. When I work with people who cannot figure out Design Options after a few days I shudder to think how bad their work would likely be in CAD, where they would have to remember to coordinate between drawings and update their xrefs etc etc etc. 


Donna, this isn't aimed at you, I would bet much money that youll pick it up in no time. You'll probably still hate it, but you'll get it.

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Almosthip

IDK, I just must work in a very small office but we only need one person to do design development of a model. Multiple hands don't touch our models till they go to CD. Central models are not created until the floor plan and elevations are set.

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Non Sequitur

My first step is to set up a central model and worksets. Nothing gets drawn, modeled, summoned, killed, unless it's got a workset ready.

1  · 
SneakyPete

Sounds like you work in a very small office, indeed. Even if I was a sole prop, I'd use worksharing if I had even a single staff member.

 · 

My two hours of Design Options went well, and I dutifully accepted the primary and deleted the option as soon as the discussion was through. I have a rockstar younger person in the office who walked me through doing it properly. I'm able to see the value in Revit, just get so frustrated by it daily. Hourly, even. But I AM enjoying little bits of its utility. That said....I still don't really understand WTF a workset is.

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tduds

Donna - think of it like a layer. Or, I guess, a layer group. We use different Worksets for different scopes - Envelope, Core, Structure, Interior, M/E/P, etc. each has a workset. It makes whole scopes easy to toggle on & off, and it's easier for people to simultaneously own different pieces of the project - skin, core, unit layouts, and so on, without stepping on each other's toes.

3  · 
SneakyPete

As a background, back in the day there was no way multiple people could work in one file without issue. Worksets were created so you could "borrow" the workset and the software would know it was yours, not letting anyone else change the elements on it to avoid errors. This was set up manually, and had to be kept manually. Eventually they created the tech to do element based ad hoc worksharing, which made the NEED for worksets moot. At this point many large firms had instituted worksharing into their workflows and so it was left in. Now folks use it to lower PC resource utilization (by unloading heavy worksets), to subdivide linked portions, and (against best practice advice) for visibility control.

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

Worksets come in handy when you're doing hospitals, or heavy multi-disciplinary stuff. Medical; gas, sharps, kitchen, MEP.....are terribly burdensome.

3  · 
square.

just because revit is the best we have now, doesn't mean it's the best possible solution, or that it's a particularity enjoyable piece of software to use. in other words it's both possible to recognize that revit does some pretty great things, but that also it's not intuitive or user-friendly, which is a problem. the amount of technological bullshit one has to wade through to make a drawing, compared to the old days, is mind-numbing. there has to be a better way eventually.

it's apples to oranges, but i still think rhino is the best architecture software.. i still enjoy time spent on it, and it feels more appropriate for a field that is so dependent on the visual.

2  · 
Almosthip

You can all give me a thumbs down but Im literally the only person in my department. The lone A in a land of engineers, until I need SME I really don't see a need to have a central file.

1  ·  1
SneakyPete

I'm not trying to tell you how to work.

1  · 

You don’t have to tell me twice to give you a thumbs down.

 · 
Jaetten

Some form of tractor racing today between Carsington Reservoir and Turnditch. Clocked them at 55mph, which is impressive as the both had tipper trailers filled with rubble and slick tyres in the wet. 

Oct 24, 20 7:28 am  · 
1  · 

I’ve lost 80 lbs from my highest weight so far.


Decent way to start off a Monday

Oct 26, 20 10:21 am  · 
17  · 

Good job!

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archanonymous

whadya do Josh, cut off a leg? 


I kid, i kid. Congratulations!

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Non Sequitur

Take my thumbs up.

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Replaced all my bones with carbon fiber. Skin is now a 60 mil vapor barrier.

1  · 
archanonymous

careful with the Carbon-er

1  · 
citizen

"Get Mings in here! We need some abs at that site meeting, pronto!"

1  · 

I posthumously award you 'winner of the internet' for yesterday.

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tduds

RIP Chad.

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archanonymous

Welp, two of my three interviews went really well, but when it came time to hammer out the other bits, both offers fell apart. 

You want me to have 10+ years experience, a license, have led large projects, Revit proficient, rendering and modeling proficient, know how to do specs, ca, project management, and more, and you're going to pay me all of $75k a year? Fuck right off.

Oct 26, 20 12:57 pm  · 
5  · 
square.

this profession is broken.

curious- what location/market were you looking in?

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archanonymous

a large midwestern US city.

1  · 

I’ve heard this from others lately too. Firms are using the pandemic to really lowball offers at the moment. Such a race to the bottom mentality that only succeeds in driving people from the profession.

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Midwest is a rather large area . . . care to be more specific?

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axonapoplectic

That skill set you can go to a GC or owner and make a lot more money. I feel like a lot of firms fail to grasp that they aren’t competing with other firms for people with that skill set. My last office lost a whole bunch of our junior and middle management revit gurus to GCs because they refused to pay them a decent salary.

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archanonymous

Yeah... I tried once to go to an owner, someone I had worked with on a past project. It was kind of sad but also reaffirming they said "Archanonymous, I would love to hire you, but I would hate for you to stop being an architect. The project that we did together was one of the best I've ever been involved in, so for that reason, I'm not considering your application." Maybe he was blowing smoke, but also probably correctly perceiving that I don't really want to stop being an architect, just want to be paid better.

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