She was always a favorite of mine. I remember watching SNL in college when she tore up the Pope's photo--wild times! She stood up for what she believed in, regardless of the consequences.

Looking now at videos of her performing when she was in her early 20s and I just keep thinking godDAM why wasn’t I braver back then?! I had power back then, I was afraid to use it. Embarrassed to speak the truth. I think 20yo women are braver now.

Going fishing.

Family reunion tomorrow, then Building Science Summer Camp on Sunday!

Sweet!

yes, 52nd edition of mountain fair in carbondale , colorado

I'm going to go see Oppenheimer and do some mountain biking!

My husband was ill all weekend and not moving from the couch so we finally binged the entirety of The Bear, both seasons, and it was excellent. So damn good. Also it was too hot out to do anything.

The Bear is so good.

There was definitely a lull, but it seems to be gone now. I've been getting cold calls for interviews even though I went out on my own.

It’s mostly small to mid size firms. Large firms still seem to be in a tightening mode.

I feel like career trajectory should go Large > Medium > Small. That is my takeaway and I need to speed run this thing before I run out of time!

I did apply for government work, but have been finding that the process there is designed for people who already have jobs. It is several rounds of interviews and can take a couple months before they offer you the position.

What happened to Rem?

Died of cancer.  He was 70 years old. 

I think Rick must've missed a joke.

I guess?

I am now the greatest nector.

Hip-hop and you don't stop.

beta you've always been the greatest 'nector.

...in my mind.

This is the end. My only Rem, the end.

Follow-up question, physical note or email ?

I've received thank you notes, hand written, from young people interviewing. They must have been taught in their ProPrac classes to send one. People my age are probably less likely to, I would guess.

Bench - follow up email.

Definitely email - and even if the email is "thanks, but no thanks" still send it.

My emails, have various versions of Pee Weehaas.

Having participated in new hi re interviews in recent years, emails seems most we get. So even that (or lack of) definitely serves as a marker of distinction.

I've actually gotten kind of flaky about it. Then after a few days I wonder if sending it late would be worse than not sending it at all...

They be dropping left and right.

Mama Mia, here we go again.

Hunting for some good will.

Craig Dykers (in my mental image at least) looks like the mid-40's dad sporting a fanny pack and new balance at disney world.

Damn, I missed that before - BalkinsGPT, the original AI.

Only if the A stands for 'Anti-'

Thanks Nam! It’s been interesting so far, but starting to gain momentum,

Want to provide more context .. ?

https://www.jupe.com/ Seems like a pretty cool idea and product. Price starts at $25K--which is a lot for a tent, but not much for a tiny house that can be shipped and set up quickly pretty much anywhere.

WG - agree. Im more wondering why b3ta references grifting in the post?

The grifting comments comes from the same people doing the same shortly following the last natural disaster... I forget which one. Capitalizing on tragedy and hawking expensive tents.

Found it.

https://www.dwell.com/amp/arti...

They've been doing the traditional neo-lib disaster capitalism shit. Trying to sell this during the pandemic for nurses, trying get this to UN for disaster areas, migrant and refuge crisis, and now fucking Hawaii. One thing Hawaii doesn't need is more invasive "species". Send money to organizations that know what the community needs. Not this garbage.

Not for nothing, but the last fucking thing Hawaii needs is a bunch of Wall Street VC fucktards. Ask me how I really feel.

Seems to me that the community would need housing, quickly, especially considering how tight the housing market is there. This seems like a reasonably priced option for what it is. What do you think would be a better solution?

Bench, between the large font above and the small font below the post, it wasn't clear to me whether B3 had commented at all, or if so, which comment was theirs.

WG, the company hawking these pop-up solutions are not genuinely interested in humanitarian efforts. They produce vapour-ware renderings whenever there is a natural disaster in order to drum up traffic and free promotion to their site where they sell 3D folding tents to rich idiots.

Are there examples of more appropriate short-term housing for disaster situations? Or glamping? I've had a zillion ideas over the years but they are all expensive. I've designed tiny homes at $80K+/ea. Shipping containers are often lauded for this purpose and they can make sense but they have serious limitations as well.

"Send money to organizations that know what the community needs" sounds good but what organizations can you actually trust to know what they're doing in this regard, and to use funds appropriately? I honestly don't know but I'm interested. 

Indigenous organizations, on the ground, not aiming to steal property while families are collecting their dead, a good start.

This is clarifying https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/looters-land-speculators-move-deadly-hawaii-fires-rcna99812

Ugh. Looting gasoline because you need to get to safety is one thing but real estate folk coming in to try to buy the property of people in crisis is just disgusting.

Of course, one is technically illegal while the other isn't but I know who I'd shame first.

Never let a disaster go to waste am I right? The government needs to step in and shield their constituents from predatory real estate investors. Find them, ban them from purchasing property and give them an old fashion Hawaiian ass kicking. The video of the families in the water holding onto a wooden board while embers flew around them was fucking brutal.

Why is my comment on the absurdity of NIMBY low traffic neighbourhoods and the cost of bollards hidden? 

In the UK they've in part been implemented out of fear of housing depreciation and have gifted those living within the newly gated communities even more paper growth in housing values. Policies like these increase inequalities in many areas not solely limited to economic ones but also public health. Hackney Council have made a lot of money out of the NIMBY gentrification grift.

Where is your comment hidden? Your comment history only shows you commenting about bollards here on TC and as far as I can tell the comments are not hidden.

They were. The bollards were a euphemism for much money spend on cameras to make coin as a response to Tory underfunding of councils and fake socialists running a council for the most (ef)affluent. The Hackney Mayor's housemate got convicted as a nonce last week.

Not seeing anything hidden.

just the increase in traffic...

Hackney Council is a clown show of upper middle class entitlement whom push their pollution onto everyone else facilitated by themselves. There's quite a good article in the FT about road tax (I don't drive or own a car) I do live somewhere taking the burden so chiefs who wouldn't have stepped foot in the area can pollute me more. NIMBY gentrification in action...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66674744 this is the Fake socialist mayor in Hackney who shared a house with a convicted paedophile. Private Eye is worth a read, they've been reporting on the airated concrete for a few years too https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-... it's also in hospitals, anyone commissioned/suggested that material?

I keep hearing this yet I've never encountered it. Other than doctors and investment bankers other professionals with my amount of experience make about the same I do. I am clearly very fortunate. 

If I may ask - what type of new jobs are you interviewing for? Nothing specific - I don't want to jeopardize your anonymity.

Regardless - good luck!

Every design profession paid a lot better before 2008 in the UK, blame the rich kids IMO. They've fucked it for everyone else, some clowns who went to Eton or the Architectural Association. Now its new clowns who do 'User experience' with masters in human computer interaction. On Bullshit. Indeed.

Oh hush nabrU. You sound like a bigoted tool.

Chad, I am assuming you never encountered young Comp. Sci. grads who make 180k starting salary right outta school?

I have encountered computer science grads who make around $100k fresh out of school. Same with doctors and lawyers. We're not in the same level of any of those professions though.

I do find it cute that you keep bringing up computer science grads as an example pay inequality though.  It's as if you think that profession is anything like architecture.  I have several friends in CS - it's NOTHING like architecture.  

re: CS graduates who "used" to make 180k right out of schools. My oldest son is a CS graduate from a state university, been working for a Canadian software co. for 3 years, recently changed jobs to a local logistics co.; his new boss told him there were several applicants for his job asking 4 times what he is making, almost all of them recently laid-off from the big 4 techs. And my son also told me he's been receiving direct messages on Linkedin from unknown guys asking him to help them with recommendations to get a job, so the CS myth is no longer valid I'm afraid. my son still makes 50% more than I do and he's 28, but he will have to survive in a much worse world than I did, so I find it fair.

I still like how someolddoctor likes to say: 

"Look at this other specialized field in high demand. It's nothing like architecture but dang it we architects should be making just as much as them!"

News flash.  Architecture isn't in that much demand and we're not that special.  

Chad you never mentioned anything about "being on the same level" in your post, so lets get that straight. If you do want to talk about levels, I will say that most professionals that have to study as hard as we do, and work as hard we do make more money at our age. And yes all this point to our field not being in very high demand.

^arch school is not hard, we make it so because we’re fools and told to suffer for our art. Arch school is 4x harder than it should be and too many graduate thinking they are special. Not true. Very Few are worth $$$.

forget people who went to school for other stuff then, most people who went to school for architecture and later jumped ship make more money than us at 'our level' Sr sales person giving me my lunch and learn? more, that guy who jumped to construction and is now a sr PM? more, owners rep working at some CM company? more, my entire career whenever I'm (often running) in a meeting of my level people working on the project, I'm the least paid of the bunch.

IMHO it's the design aspect.  design itself is not nearly as special as one thinks it is, and it permeates our field so much that it drags down what would otherwise be more lucrative business development, operational, risk management, and/or knowledge expertise roles, spec writers, envelope consultants, code experts, again more

Oh hush someolddoctor. 

Architecture isn't easy - nothing is. 

Most professionals that study as hard as us make the same as us. Tech, doctors, lawyers, ect - they have studied way harder than us and continue to do so for their entire careers.

Ha - maybe I should say "study as LONG" and "but WORK as hard" ... I always say that we (kinda) partied a lot in architecture school in our own weird way and pay for it all our lives at work. For Engineers, Doctors etc its the other way around

You really think that architects work harder and study longer than doctors, lawyers, and tech? 

Please. 

I have friends in all three fields. The level of schooling they've had and continuing education they participate in far exceeds what architects experience.

Chad, I'll agree with you about doctors, though I know many and I'm related to some, and the ones without huge egos who know what I do say it's not that different. I also know a lot of lawyers and I'm related to one; I disagree that their training is more rigorous than an architect's. It seems very similar, and more narrowly focused.

Meh. Your experiences are clearly different than mine. 

It seems like you're trying to make architecture more important and challenging than it actually is. 

It also sounds like you've got some serious envy issues to deal with.

Good luck with that. 

chad, really? "serious envy issues"? you are projecting and also being rude about it...unnecessary

You know why architecture is harder than the other professions - and it doesn't need to be? No one pretends they're a surgeon, a physician, or an attorney, but every architecture school dropout, or person that said they thought about being an architect, is going to tell me how to either do my job, spell the word architect - yes, that last one actually happened - when the reality is that most people can barely tie their own shoes, let alone figure out how do what I do, or how hard I have to work to save them from themselves.

proto - I'm not projecting at all.

Someold's posts often contain this idea that he should be making as much as doctors and lawyers because architects have more schooling, need to know more, and our testing is more difficult.

None of that is true but someold keeps saying it. 

That sounds like envy to me.

Chad, are you responding to me? If so, your radar is off--I have no envy whatsoever, aside from a mild annoyance with myself that I have to call myself a designer, not an architect. 

You're definitely one of the people that should be able to call themselves an architect, Wood Guy.

Chad, first off, I never mentioned Lawyers or Doctors. Lawyers I dunno, met a few flaky ones, but I will never compare Doctors to Architects. As an example, I was mentioning Computer Science graduates, whom I believe work much lesser and make way more than us. In my particular ethnicity, there are quite a few CS grads, many of them claiming to not even do 5 hours of work a day, but own at least couple of houses. Perhaps you have not met any of those.

Another example is marketing folk - bullshit all day and make more. There are quite a few more of those professions in my neck of the woods.

And now that you are calling me our on envy, sure I am envious of people who hardly put in 20-30 hours of work a week and make way more -- is that wrong? Perhaps you are very satisfied in your life but a few of us think we deserve more.

This dead horse beat circle again? Want more cash, try asking for more. Pretty simple and if you’re worth it, the big boss man/woman will give it. Otherwise, open up your own shop and pay yourself whatever you want. Spending 4 years making renderings does not equal 100k salaries.

Yeah that always works NS. lol. There are some things called industry standards... But yes, this is a dead horse, sorry to beat it again.

Wood - I was responding to someolddoctor. Your post just snuck in front of my reply.

About once a month for the past several years Someold posts this idea that architects should be paid as much as ______ (doctors, lawyers, tech industry, now marketing people) because we're "better than them.

Wood guy, you might consider being a designer an advantage. People know what a designer is and what they do. Not so for architects.

Thanks Wilma, and in general it hasn't hurt me--I compete with architects and charge the same or more than the ones I compete with. The general public rarely really understands what an architect or designer does anyway. It just limits me with some clients, with hiring, and with joining certain groups or competitions.

Chad, I thought that might be the case but there was enough time between my post and yours that I wasn't sure. I'm aware of SOD's frequent posting on the topic, and I feel like the resulting conversation is always identical.

I say I’m an architect and a designer. Impresses people way more than it should.

I say I’m an architect and a designer. Impresses people way more than it should.

Oops. I hear you same old. My brother is a board certified surgeon. We’ve discussed many times who had to work harder and longer for their career and it’s not him. Chad M. seems to have gotten through pretty easily which is great for him but that’s not the case for many.

Wilma - I never said I got through 'easy' nor did I say that architecture is an 'easy' profession. I said that the other professions that SOD has mentioned (doctor, lawyer, computer science, and even marketing) are more difficult.

I know several people in each of those professions and they all say the same thing: "wow, I could never do what you do". When you dig into it more you learn they're referring to the creative aspect of the career, not education or technical aspects of it.

Every month or so SOD likes to say that architects should be making as much or more than the previously mentioned professions because we have a 'harder' career path and job.  I don't agree with the second part of his statement.    

This dead horse is hilarious and sad. We all know other wankers in other fields. I have several DRs and lawyers in my immediate family... a whole posse of tech-bro acquaintances and every single one of them has had x4 more difficult path to their careers...and their jobs are appropriately more important (maybe not the tech-bros) and difficult/stressful. It's asinine to compare this to architecture where the pain is, as the legend Layne Stanley said, self-chosen.

Y'all really need to shake your heads.  We don't get higher wages because your USA tuition is soo high or because someone decided 4+2y of unnecessary long nights making shiny renderings was a good use of time.  That's why the Drs and co say we archies "have it harder".  It's because those wankers are smart enough to see that arbitrary design education is unnecessarily hard and, at the end of the day, is not the skills that pay the bills.

Chad, again, I have NEVER mentioned that Doctors and Lawyers should be making same or less than us, but if that's what you need to keep pushing your narrative, go on and be happy. But yes we should be making more or equal to the douchey Tech Bros and Marketing "geniuses". Get it?

SOM -

In this thread you haven't mentioned doctors or lawyers.

In other threads you have though. I think this is the fourth or fifth iteration of the same post.  You basically poar: "We should be making as much as ______ because we work and study just as hard" 

We don't.  You don't.

Tech bros and marking people can make more money than doctors and lawyers.

Get it?

Nope, not mentioned us making more than Doctors or Lawyers ever. But if this suits your fantasy then go for it man.

Did not one watch the video I posted? All your answers, and more, can be found there.

Pretty sure I couldn’t work a non-creative job.

I'm waiting for Non's video to be made into a graphic novel. Then I'll read it.

i'm truly shocked people are here claiming tech jobs are difficult.. multiple news stories have recounted stories of people recently fired who were making well over 150k doing nothing all day. https://www.techspot.com/news/98368-tech-employees-they-paid-do-nothing-all-day.html

Just like any other job it depends on the company. I know tech people who are working 60 - 70 hours a week doing coding, data management, IT, ect.

I know architects who do almost nothing all day yet get paid a full salary.  

It all depends.  

Yeah, since our bottom line is quite tight, there are much fewer examples of architects who do nothing all day. Much more prevalent in the tech industry

One of my best buds is an ex-tech-bro and his team's weekly burn rate, for a handful of people during product R&D is about 4x that of my office's entire burn month at 20+ staff. There is money in tech-bro stuff and the first to make the next facebook X gets the gold. Not so much in architecture.

and i know plenty of architects who work 60 hours a week; working long hours doesn't necessarily equate to difficulty. imo getting a building built is a lot more complex than an app or website, but that's just me.

If I can weigh in... I have a twin who works in the financial tech industry, coding back-end algorithms for a high-volume stock trading app company. He makes about 50% more than I do. From what I've heard, he and plenty of his colleagues work insane hours at crunch time to ensure things run smoothly... on average, about the same as I do.

I think the big difference is that comparing how architects make money to how software developers make money is asinine. They're entirely separate operations. We make money off of a custom service that takes 2-5 years (in my world at least) to perform from concept to close-out. They make money off of a product sale and from information packets and advertising. One is obviously more lucrative than the other. 

I'd love to live in a world where we all worked less and made more, but trying to tear down one worker's profession doesn't increase the payoff from yours. You want more money, go take it up with the industry, or better yet, go argue with capitalism.

Also for context... he lives and works in NYC, I'm down in southwest Florida. Yes, there are discrepancies between tech and architecture, but I'd be willing to bet that the discrepancy wouldn't be nearly as large if we both worked in the same place.

The real money in tech is to be made in farcical ideas JUST plausible enough to attract the plutocrats attention so they choose to hide their criminal wealth in your coffers long enough for you to skim off the top but not long enough to be the ones left in when the debtors come calling. There's no grift quite like it in most architectural circles.

Jovan you are totally right ... but yes, we need to acknowledge and take it up with the industry. But again, enough of dead-horse-beating from me...

I agree. We're operating at different ends of capital. Fintechs and Architects, but always in service of capital. Perhaps the difference is that we lost our way, and thought we could leverage our skill to manipulate capital? 

A fools errand.

I took it up with my boss today. Got a 13% increase.

Congrats Beta!

Beta, I thought you were your own boss...

I'm always my own boss, even when I'm not.

That's a nice way to look at it b3ta!

I always still laugh at Schumacher when he tried to patronising about algorithms whilst speaking to him *strong german accent* have you ever used algorithms in your work? I replied no and he looked well smug. Chief.

I know this horse is dead, BUT I just helped a client save 100k in windows by busting my brains for a week looking at manufacturer's standard sizes and I'll get paid my regular hourly salary. something doesn't add up, not sure what it is. On top of that, my firm gets paid a % of construction cost, so their fee also went down.

JLC-1 it’s not designed to make sense.

Who is doting this NS? I ask because I cannot stand this type of behavior. BGH - please deal with this.

See “Chartres” comments in the AI thread. Wanker only chases my comments to make mental disability snarks, which who cares, but the cunt uses my child’s conditions (which they don’t know details) to get an “edge”. Pathetic and jealous is all they are.

Nuking appears complete. Thanks BGH.

So is "Chartres" was the user name?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66673971

This short sighted material suggestion by architects and engineers also affects hospitals not just art galleries and schools. The floating new forms are potential death traps, what's the mitigation on specification? Should you not care as a designer?

Will GFRC be looked back similarly with the pony lifespan like the article above? Do you spec it?

Can I ask why you turned it down? Care to share any details about how this offer came about?

Benefits were awful comparatively speaking. I would have to return to the office. I applied for the position. The work would've been much less stress, but that wasn't enough to overcome the counter offer.

Sounds like you made out alright in the end, nice job. Thanks for sharing

Does anyone else recognize when chatGPT wrote something? I'm sure I miss chatGPT generated language a good bit, but especially when you've worked with someone before you can tell the way their email comes across is different. If you do recognize it, do you care? I feel like a one-line acknowledgement email would serve the same purposes as something you spent 2 hours on and/or churned out of chatGPT.

^ ... was that written in ChatGPT ..

Dear [Recipient's Name], 

I hope this letter finds you well. I would like to extend my sincerest gratitude for offering me the Senior Architect position at [Company Name]. I was truly honored to have been selected as a candidate and to have had the opportunity to learn more about your esteemed organization during the interview process. 

 After careful consideration and much thought, I have decided that I must decline the offer for the Senior Architect position. This decision has not been an easy one, as I have great respect for [Company Name] and the impressive work that you do in the field. 

 My choice is primarily based on personal reasons and career considerations that have come to light in recent discussions and reflections. I genuinely believe that your team and the responsibilities associated with the Senior Architect role align well with my skills and aspirations. However, after much deliberation, I have determined that now might not be the optimal time for me to make a transition of this nature. 

 I appreciate your understanding and hope that this decision does not cause any inconvenience. I am truly grateful for the time and effort invested by you and your team in considering me for this position. The conversations I had and the insights gained during the interview process were invaluable, and I will carry them with me in my professional journey. 

 I am open to keeping in touch and exploring potential opportunities in the future should circumstances change. Thank you once again for your kind consideration, and please extend my gratitude to the rest of the team at [Company Name].

 Wishing [Company Name] continued success and growth in all your endeavors. 

 Warm regards, 

 [Your Name]

Dear [Recipient's Name], 

I trust this letter finds you in the midst of your fruitless pursuit of a built environment that somehow manages to uphold professional standards of innovation, sustainability, and architectural integrity—standards that [Company Name] appears to disregard with astonishing consistency. 

 Allow me to express my heartfelt thanks for your recent job offer, an offer that has illuminated, in glaring detail, the depths to which [Company Name] has sunk in its relentless march toward mediocrity. The opportunity to participate in your endeavors, though tempting in the same way that a leap into a bottomless abyss might be, is one I must firmly decline. 

It has become painfully evident that [Company Name] revels in the creation of architectural eyesores, structures that epitomize unsustainability, aesthetic shallowness, and a penchant for design trends that age as gracefully as a mayfly. I can only lament the resources wasted on projects that contribute nothing of substance to our architectural discourse, much less our planet's well-being.

To align myself with an organization so committed to the perpetuation of these architectural transgressions would be to betray the very essence of my convictions. My commitment to architecture extends beyond mere aesthetics and superficial trends; it encompasses a profound responsibility to the environment, to communities, and to the enduring legacy of our profession. As I refuse to be complicit in [Company Name]'s unabashed disregard for the principles that should guide our work, I am left with no choice but to decline your offer. My hope is that you might one day recognize the true potential of architecture—a force for positive change, innovation, and sustainability. 

May you someday find your way out of the design wilderness you've wandered into, and in doing so, contribute meaningfully to a profession that desperately needs visionaries, not trend-followers. 

 With a regretful lack of enthusiasm, 

 [Your Name] 

 [Enclosure: Job Offer Decline]

I'm going to use that one next.

Well done, archanonymous!

Too much water skiing I presume.

My husband just bought a boat! He's in charge of vehicles in our family, so I had no idea this was coming, but it was only like twelve hundred bucks or something. A 1955 Wolverine runabout, wood with two cockpits!

That's a beautiful boat

Was that directed at me? Did I miss a conversation we were having?

Was this directed to me?

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Responding to your question from aug 23. I’m practicing for my government job.

Over a week late, no context, and not even in the general vicinity of the question? You should fit right into government work. :)

Don't you love it when the site gets quirky?  

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

I only fight with crippling self loathing.

Chad, what you're complaining of is a (dare I say it) non-sequitur.

That's most of this forum . . .

What’s this about pogo stick racing? I swear, it gets better if they play Metallica at half speed.

Now THAT is a non-sequitur! Take notes folks and bask in it's glory.

Can you repeat that? I'm wearing a towel.

Potato. Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.

...stick them in the VCR

Really? Truman Capote?

Even more so. Like a rooster at sunrise.

To bring this full circle, government jobs are like cock fighting, in a Nebraska small town.

^classic Alice in Chains song.

This is a delightful discussion.

This discussion proves Gen Xers can communicate without making any sense.

Ok boomer.  ;)

Ooooh, burn!

Wait, am I gen X or Z? What if I feel like a Y? Wait, what are we talking about?

Now get off my lawn while I yell at a cloud! 

I was always told gen x growing up but then that all changed 10ish ago when someone had spare time and rebranded everything. Now I don’t know. Also, don’t care because it’s a useless exercise. Plus I own a home so I can’t be millennial.

Non, I think the Canadian conversion rate is add a decade then divide by twelve. And when did the useless exercise become a bad thing? =O]

I just thought it meant we are forever faithful listeners to Alice In Chains.

I don't like guacamole.

^Marxist-Leninist

I had a friend in high school named adam smith.

Heart of glass; mind of stone.

My second toe is longer than my big toe all things being equal that is.

There are four lights.

The urban planning and transportation failures in the US never cease to amaze me. Can't tell if bug or feature though.

Feature, for sure, enable by and abetted by Capitalism

3 perks of capitalism right there, infinite sprawl, no public transportation and out of reach car prices, beautiful freedom we have.

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Smelling their own fart gas, as always.

Ironically, despite the slogan, architects don't actually build shit. *facepalm"

how many sheets

74 architectural... about as many as that split between consultants.

Nice. Small. I like it.

I try to be concise with my sets. Knowing that no matter what I draw, I'm going to get RFIs for dumb reasons, I figure that I really only need to include the base amount of info needed to get the work done. Everything else is in a schedule, a specification, or a consultant's document.

7 buildings??

Yeah 7 buildings on one site. The city preferred that to one large building, because it's on a small-town island with a bunch of protected preserves around, so they'd rather it look small and islandy. Don't ask how 7 buildings is more islandy than one.

Is it??? I haven't received anything yet.

Cool. I kind of wish I hadn't paid off my loans 15 years ago, after ten years of payments. But I don't begrudge anyone who is benefitting from the current situation.

I wish I paid mine off 15 years ago too.

Wondered the same. But then there's other days i get on and can't even keep track of everything ...

It's bow season for elk so I'm busy with work and that. Seriously though, not much time for the site anymore.

Just busy, and freaking out because my business advisor says I'll need to hire someone towards the end of the year. I'm not mentally ready for that!

Needing to hire is a good thing right? Just be yourself, trust your instincts, and you'll make a great leader! You got this!

I just started a new job, so I am pretending to be a dedicated employee who doesn't waste time on Archinect while working...

Drowning in a maple syrup.

Did your national maple syrup reserve spring a leak again Non?

Good to see some of the stalwarts are still just a click or keystroke away, and productive in their labors (or labours). It seems that folks get busy with other stuff, which is good. I'd hate for us to have to put on a telethon or anything....

I stepped away because I didn't like how I was interacting with certain people.

I'm here for the popcorn

Sir this is a Wendy's we do not serve popcorn.

Just busy making rich assholes even richer....

​I am posting this because I am in the kitchen​ waiting for water to boil...

I'm diggin' the continuity...

how did the boil go?

Thank you for asking. The boil was fine but by then I had forgotten why I was boiling it. This sort of thing developed during Covid lockdowns... Or, was it..?

I bore myself by repeating the same stories. I still check in daily but just don't engage as often.

I got my laps in.

Its shit out there. I'm constantly on the phone with building-neighbours to get alerted if any leaks start coming through. The worst is really over, its been clear for a couple hours now and will stay that way until about 9-10pm. Unfortunately its coming back pretty heavy overnight.

I'm not a hunter myself so I have to ask - besides the one mentioned, was there any reason you didn't shoot anything? Did you attempt unsuccessfully? Decide it wasn't worth the hassle? Weren't prepared or gave yourself up? Genuinely curious

Bow hunt bears?

Breathing all those ohl and gas fumes makes Texans do some pretty
stupid stuff.

BB - Good question! 

The elk were too far away for an ethical shot. 

Some compound bow shooters will take shots up to 75 yards. I shoot a recurve bow. I can hit 8" groups out to 55 yards however the impact force is very low and the arrow flight time is long (about 3 seconds). My ethical max range is 30 yards.

Non - Yup.  You can bow hunt bears.  Where I elk hunt I can add a bear tag onto my hunting license for $45.  I've taken bear in MN with my bow however I discovered I don't enjoy the taste of bear meat so I don't anymore.  Also it's a lot of work.  

Yeah, but what are you going to do when this bear rolls up on you?

an employee of the local landfill was fined $3k and the manager lost his job after said employee killed a bear with an arrow when it was eating. I've eaten bear too, it's too strong a taste.

b3t - HA!   I'd just tell them about the repressed Texans hunting one valley over . . .  

On a serious note: Most black bears are solitary and actively avoid everything. Hence why they're so much work to hunt. If they decide to attack you you're f'ed though. You better be a good shot. Some people carry a sidearm for protection when bow hunting. I just carry bear spray.

Wait, wut? If it’s legal, why did they get fined?

I'm assuming CO does not allow bear hunting with dogs.

You could at least show him in his natural habitat, b3ta.  Do I have to do everything around here?

Wilma and Everyday Architect  - Using dogs to hunt bears is illegal in most states. You can use dogs to track already killed game in Colorado however you need a special license and it's only allowed in certain areas for certain animals.  

You can bring your dog(s) with you while hunting but they can't do anything other than sit there.  It's typically frowned upon by other hunters because it's a jerk thing to do as the game figures out rather quickly that dogs = hunters and it ruins hunting for everyone within five miles or so. 

Chad - I've taken my wife fishing once or twice... she still comes with me, but uses tackle sans hook now. Says it's more fun to just cast the line, be in nature, and not have to worry about killing and gutting a fish. Maybe just look at your excursion as a nice nature walk?

AA - my view is that a hunting trip is always fun. Well maybe not in bad weather. ;) Getting a tastey animal is just a bonus!

I go fishing sometimes and by that I mean I sit by the water and watch other people fish. Never been hunting. Seen a black bear a few times but never up close.

Plus, of course, Meryl Streep is an absolute genius and treasure of an actor. I’ve been watching her in Only Murders lately, and she is just amazing..

Yes indeed, pushing oneself hard while growing up does indeed add character and resilience - and most of us have done plenty of that. But I do detest professionals that feel all youngsters need to "pay their dues" even whilst the profession itself has changed so much.

Now that I'm in a position to mentor and 'appear' to know what I'm doing. (I'm faking it, don't tell anyone). I tend to let younger professionals know that there is no need to have the career dictate everything you do. I try to share a much 'hard earned' advice I have that will spare them from having to go through what I did. Especially the mistakes I made and had to learn from.

Absolutely agree, sameold. It's just toxic and mean to think "I suffered through this, now you have to too!" I'm glad the profession seems to mostly be evolving away from that attitude.

Damn right. Turkey and pumpkin day!

I just love seeing all the Fall colours.

How is Canadian Thanksgiving different from American Thanksgiving? Is there more or less patriotic genocide than the American version?

More denim.

Less shootings over family dinner politcs talk?

Meh, that doesn't happen much here. In America we just shun the family who have different political views. That or they're banished to the garage for the day. It's like having to eat at the kid's table. ;)

Chad - The difference is in our pumpkin pies. Our pies are made with maple syrup in the recipe. yum.

Ad a type 1 diabetic this both excites and infuriates me.

...and let's not forget the famous tarte-au-sucre.... also made with maple. Double whammy with the pumpkin pie

I'm gonna get super diabetes if I partake in Canadian Thanksgiving.

NS - I am a huge fan of Butterscotch pie, just not a fan of the 10 hours of stirring it takes to make it

Chad - I just learned that "Maple syrup is a better choice than honey for people who have diabetes or blood sugar problems" and that "maple syrup has a lower glycemic index than honey"

maple syrup, making bees jealous as fuck since 1867.

ns - is your tarte-a-sucre similar to the classic buttertarts? That's our typical tradition for canadian thanksgiving

Also - maple syrup in your morning coffee. You're welcome.

Bench, they are not. Tarte au sucre is superior to buttertarts.

sacraman!

maple syrup on bacon

Trade off! Cut out all those annoying, high-calorie "fruits" and so-called "vegetables." Win-win!

I cut my wine consumption by 75% which pretty cuts all grapes out of my diet.

Disenchanted facade consultant. Loves to talk about how buildings should look, complains about starchitects, doesn't actually know how firms operate.

Did they come back and allow us to bask again in their genius?

I thought he was a facade consultant but couldn't remember. Unless he's a technical consultant doing high end projects I think he's lying about how much he's paid. Odd that he's not willing to show us some of his work. Very odd.

Probably giving them too much credit. If I had to bet, I’d say it’s a spoiled brat coming out of their first parent sponsored unpaid starchitect gig thinking that their 14hr days telling some poor AOR what do by using blue foam is tots normal.

I don't think so. I thought I remembered him so I looked at his post history. (I'm in a long zoom meeting that I'm not participating in.) I remembered correctly - In April or May of 2022 Eamze stated that he had a BS of Arch and left the profession for a 'more lucrative consulting gig'.

Chartres is a punter who seems to have some type of social disorder. Originally he was just a disgruntled architect who liked to try and sound more accomplished and experienced that he actually is. Chartres tried to start a beef with me on this site and then tried to cyber stalked me. His actions caused me to respond in a way that didn't end well for him. After that he focused on Non and went so far as to cyber stalk him and make fun of Non and his family. Non is a much more peaceful person than I so he rises above the taunts and basically ignores him.  

While Chartres has gone by at east six user names in the past couple of years I don't think he's Eamze. 

^This, I'm also way too busy to debate at that level. Donna, Chartres (or whatever their previous name was... Th-something) only follows my comments and attempts to diagnose mental illnesses. Sure, whatever, I don't care when it's addressed to me but the cunt crossed the line when they decided to dunk on my son and his disabilities (of which I've only briefly noted in TC). They started out life in the forum as disgruntled students who had a hard time in school and thus a hard time in the real world. They don't have any experience or opinions worth sharing, hence why they are one of like 3 active users I have on ignore.   

Don't even need to look this up. Knowing AIA this must be real.

It's just wild that two weeks in and this profession is so effing lame and can't figure out how to craft even the most nuanced stance on civilian deaths. Even some of the most hack-kneed neo-libs have done the basics. I'm not even asking that they go full anarcho-commie, just offer even the "IDF assault on civilian populations in an open air prison is criminal " would satisfy me.

I swear to god if I go to the AIA website and see something talking about how architecture can solve the active genocide against Palestinians I'm going to lose my mind.

EDIT: God dammit. From AIA's statement about the Gaza conflict: "We believe that architecture is about more than just buildings; it's about building communities, fostering understanding, and promoting peace." When will the AIA learn that architecture is not a humanitarian solution, shut the fuck up, and take a stance that's not just "well both sides are bad".

And, no Red Crescent link?

Also calling the United Nations a "neutral party" in this case is just plain wrong, considering that immediately after the October 7th incident, the most powerful nations in the group unilaterally and in no uncertain terms declared their complete support of Israel.

I’m ambivalent about the situation in Gaza, but I do agree with the criticism of the AIA being a bit too cozy with the far right.

beta - why are you still paying attention to the AIA? I stopped like 3 years ago...

Is is a guard dog for your stamp? Just in case the queen barges in in an attempt to fraudulently seal drawings?

This is 'Murica! We don't have a queen.

I protect everything with my bow and arrows. Also the pup would just wag his tail and lick you for some attention. ;)

It’s 2023 Chad, you can have a queen if you want.

What if I don't want a queen. What if I want a Viscount?

only if you insist that the "v" is silent.

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Oh

I hang out with 3 Archinectors (that I know of) pretty regularly. Went to school with a couple, too. Just goes to show that even on a forum like this, our world is still pretty small.

I've met a few members here in passing. Other than my teammates, I've never socialized with other architects. Even then I don't hang out with my teammates much. My professional and personal life are separate.

^ ^ Good rule to have.

Josh's mention of going to school with a couple reminded me of another archinector I knew IRL ... though I don't think they were an archinector when I knew them. They posted some racist crap a while back and I figured out who they were from their post history and ID'ed them as someone I TA'ed in their 2nd year studio.

I wish I had 3 of you to hang out with pretty regularly.

I'd hang out with many of the users here as long as we didn't talk about architecture. ;)

The only good kind of arch talk is corporate espionage. the rest is so damn boring

I hate that all I wanted to do as a teenager was design buildings, and now being in the industry, all I want to do is go hang out at local punk shows and never talk about buildings.

"AAA"

My dates would all tell you I talk about buildings too much.

Non Sequitur wrote:

 "The only good kind of arch talk is corporate espionage. the rest is so damn boring" 

I have a bow so we can quietly shoot grappling hooks like batman.  Let's go be sneaky!  

I could totally go for a punk show right now. It’s Monday evening and it already feels like I’m 60hrs deep.

I still remember stumbling across a Voodoo Glow Skulls show at some random dive bar when we were on a studio field trip in architecture school. That was fun.

Probably sometime around 2009-ish ... maybe in Portland?

Any post headlined by Tobias Funke is worth reading. I love the idea of meeting (many) folks on here, and of course that notion gets kicked around every so often. Like now. 

Maybe we set up a kind of Comic-Con for architects every couple of years... right across the street from the AIA Convo. Everybody comes dressed as their (least) favorite client or consultant. We get hammered, crash the AIA thing, start a fight... it'll be fun.

I’ve met 3 archinectors in person and worked with at least 2 that I know of.

Non, I'm sure there are small local bands in your area, you just gotta find 'em. We have a small scene down here in southwest Florida, but it sure is lively. No architects (save one), engineers, contractors, or wealthy clients to be found!

I have only corresponded with a few Architectors off-forum and only online; the closest that I know of is Non, a 7.5-hr drive from me. Is anyone else in New England north of Boston? I'm near Augusta, Maine but I'm often in Portland, Maine for projects.

Must be recent world events that have left everyone spellbound...this is true of me, at least

lol, apparently I missed citizen posting about roughly the same thing up page.

I've just been busy with a couple of big for me projects. Sorry.

Can't remember the last time I was this busy... everything is on fire and requires immediate attention... and it's all expert-level stuff I can't even hand off to junior/intermediate staff. We also have no staff at all and the ones we do have have very cavalier work ethics so here I am, starting the 2nd part of my work day at 9pm. At least I'm spinning some Peter Gabriel records to keep me company.

The betrayal. No Rush or Gordie? Do you even Molson?

^Uncle Neil of GTFO... but that's for after midnight.

Just trying to stay positive in life.

++++ Harvest after midnight.

EA and me, just keeping watch.

I'm less interested in architecture than ever, and as you say the majority of posts here are trash.

I check in a few times per week but don't post or comment much. It was nice to have this place during the pandemic, but now that the real world is open again, and I'm busier than ever, it's hard to find the time to engage here. It's not just here; I'm spending less time on other forums as well.

It's a circular problem. We're busier with stuff-- too busy to be here as often to read and post. Fewer posts and less content then gives us less reason to come over as often. It's a pickle!

There was a point where I said to myself it wasn't worth posting things to my Archinect blog because it wasn't really getting good engagement, just random posters, trolls, and bots. At least there was still some good engagement in the forums ... but even that seems to have slowly gone the way of the buffalo (great MXPX album BTW).

I'm not blaming anyone. I'm as guilty as anyone else it seems. It's just a little sad that the forums no longer seem to be a place to find a community, except for a few pockets like TC.

^ great album.

It's about time for a party at my house, and it wouldn't be the same without you.

Same. I’m exceptionally busy at work, doing work I deeply care about. I’ve pretty much left Twitter but posting a little more on Instagram. But mostly I’m just exhausted. Israel’s actions have me feeling deep sadness every day. The climate crisis continues but we’re still adding lanes to freeways. Endless money for wars but nothing for housing or health or literacy, we’re actually banning books instead…. It’s all so mentally exhausting. Just not feeling chatty, I guess.

Not just Israel's actions but the US government's unfettered encouragement. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy96qBqLQnz/ And yes to the rest...

keeping an eye on Iceland's imminent volcanic eruption

Yes, Wood Guy. That too.

It’s only Tuesday.

But you can still watch porn on it, right?

Return and get the Wacom Cintiq!

If it were up to me that's what we would of gone with but alas I don't control the money. If I want one then I have to buy it. I think my life partner would freak out at me spending $3k on a tablet. :(

I'd be worried about something that large breaking. Last week my cat bit the corner of one of my 27" monitors and ruined it. Not that a cat is going to be a problem in your situation, but monitors--at least the kind that are within my price range--are not very durable.

This really isn't a monitor - it's a tablet computer that has it's own special adjustable height table. It's not going anywhere. Also all of our computers have curved 38" monitors. No issue with durability.

On a related note: I'm looking at getting a digital pen pad for my personal use. I'll need to try one out before I buy to see if I can handle the interface disconnect between drawing on the pad and looking at the screen.

https://estore.wacom.com/en-us...

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She was at Charlottesville's Unite The Right Rally, you know the one Jews will not replace us.

https://itsgoingdown.org/ie-activist-fired-from-modesto/

I say this will all professionalism and sincerity. What a cunt.

Clinically speaking: A fecally impacted bivalve with an Electra Complex.

And Coke + Pepsi

Cost of the netting too.

I disliked this not because I want your project to fail, Non, but because I'm sick of rich people and their over-the-top housing while we all see people sleeping in tents every day in every city (in the US, anyway).

Donna, I agree although the house in question is modest (+\- 1.5mil). We still need to pay our own staff and bills so it's not like we're going to turn down work but I am really really looking forward to moving on from high-end residential. I have two 10mil cottages in construction at the moment and the amount of brain power spent on the tiniest of details is insane.

I tested it and it turns out you can't both simultaneously like and dislike a comment! So now I like it, because I do think the post itself is quite funny and sarcastic.