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snooker-doodle-dandy

I watched a  video about Long Island Modern and I was extremely disappointed  his dads works were not featured.  I would like to get the real scoop from Miles as to why his dad was not a major player in the video.


Apr 1, 20 9:43 am  · 
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tduds

Deep state conspiracy.

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SneakyPete

Can we get a link to the doc?

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snooker-doodle-dandy

Here you go Sneaky Pete: https://vimeo.com/37028699

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SneakyPete

thank you

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b3tadine[sutures]

Covid-19 and You

Has anyone seen this yet?

Apr 1, 20 7:11 pm  · 
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Wood Guy

If anyone is interested, I've started a weekly online building science discussion group, called The BS* + Beer Show (*building science). We had our first official event last night, with a panel of indoor air quality experts, including Dr. Allison Bailes, a well-known building science guy. (If you enjoy learning about building science, it's more fun than it may sound.)

Our media partners are Green Building Advisor and Fine Homebuilding Magazine, though no money is changing hands--we're just excited to share building science knowledge among a wider audience.

Sign up for our mailing list here: https://mailchi.mp/3e8e27ba8332/thebsandbeershow

Our trial sessions (based on years of in-person events, but not the best for the Zoom format) are available here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOkuSTk8SpT8Ten4bo42eqg

(Hopefully this isn't too promotional for Archinect, but I understand if you have to delete this post.)
 



Apr 3, 20 11:09 am  · 
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Seems fine to me, Wood Guy! You're a regular.

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tduds

I love this idea! I'll keep it on my calendar if I have some downtime.

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shellarchitect

I've seen this on linkedin a few times, didnt realize they were also recorded for later viewing. Keep up the good work and thanks!!!

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Wood Guy

Thanks all! You can find recorded sessions here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvAmHSecglp-u-DTFQlU8Tw, and soon we'll have our own section on Green Building Advisor as well.

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Wood Guy

Robhaw, I'm sorry that's happening. If you want to send me your email address I can add it manually. michael@michaelmaines.com.

The next show is this Thursday, 6-7pm eastern time. We'll be talking about concrete-free slabs, with Steve Baczek, Steve Demetrick, Elizabeth DiSalvo and Andy Engel. 

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Wood Guy

It's hard to find a time that works for everyone. We have talked about pushing it back to 7:00 eastern time but that means wrapping up a bit late for those with families on the east coast.

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Wood Guy

Rob, I thought I had replied earlier--yes, we now have a website where you can access past shows: https://www.thebsandbeershow.com/. This Thursday we'll be talking with three mechanical engineers about mini split air source heat pumps.

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JLC-1

a bump and a heads up for archinect, the mobile version lost the "menu" icon, it only shows for a split second when loading

Apr 7, 20 12:17 pm  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

the above speaks volumes

Apr 7, 20 8:45 pm  · 
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After 6pm on a workday in the time of quarantine and I'm still doing redlines. Fuck it, I'm having a glass of wine as I work.

Apr 8, 20 6:10 pm  · 
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Dang, two minutes after my first sip I'm already posting angrily LOL! Militarized skyscrapers? GTFO.

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axonapoplectic

one more reason why civil engineers are the worst:


https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

Apr 9, 20 3:36 pm  · 
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So the decision was finally made and my mom is going into hospice care tonight and so I am getting drunk at my computer alone at 12:25am and that is absolutely ok to do. (Not looking for sympathy; just wanted to write it down somewhere: my mom is dying, I'm getting drunk. <Love to all humans>)

Apr 10, 20 12:26 am  · 
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midlander

wow sorry to hear that. best wishes for her comfort and hope you will be able to be with her.

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citizen

I'm very sorry to hear that, Donna. That's one of my biggest fears, and I wish you and your family the best under these difficult circumstances. Do what you need to do for now....

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Non Sequitur

Don’t want sympathy? Well, you don’t get to tell me what to do! I’ll give it to you anyways. Sorry to hear, take care and be conservative on that bourbon. You don’t want to run out and have to battle zombies at the booze store.

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SneakyPete

:(

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proto

love to you & your family ((((hug))))

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****melt

Thought I would pop in for the first time in about five yyears. Donna, I am very sorry to hear. Much love to you and your family. hugs

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I'm so sorry to hear that, Donna. Such a hard thing for everyone. I would have a drink with you if I could find anything to drink in this house. Anyway, I will tip a virtual glass in your direction. Keep on being human.

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Wood Guy

Well you're getting my sympathy anyway, Donna. Saying goodbye is hard.

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shellarchitect

There's never a good time, im sorry donna

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Sorry about your mom, Donna. Saying goodbye to loved ones is difficult in the best of times. I can only imagine how much harder it is at the moment. Love to you and your family.

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liberty bell

I should update you all that my mother passed yesterday afternoon. Peacefully, and my dad is doing as well as can be expected. I’m having a hard time keeping my brain focused - maybe that’s a good thing? - towards a deadline Friday.

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Non Sequitur

sorry for your loss. virtual hug, or virtual bourbon (no ice)... or both (still, without ice).

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atelier nobody

I'm very sorry for your loss.

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Wood Guy

I'm very sorry for your loss, Donna.

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midlander

so sorry to hear that. you deserve a break from work for a while.

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Sorry to hear this Donna. Again, my heart goes out to you and your family. Take the time you need to process this and let the deadline slip if needed.

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Today is my 53rd birthday and this is the cover of Progressive Architecture from the month I was born, April 1967:

I love it. Blowing up the old ways of doing things!!


Apr 11, 20 2:40 pm  · 
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JLC-1

that's awesome, found they're all scanned in pdf form

https://usmodernist.org/index-pa.htm

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citizen

Happy birthday, Donna. And thank you, JLC, for that link. What a great resource.

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JLC-1

sorry, Happy Birthday Donna!

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Non Sequitur

I suddenly have the urge to check my underwear for sand now. Thanks Donna. Also, happy Guinness day.

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citizen

^ Hopefully that's the only thing you need to check for.

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Happy belated Donna!

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liberty bell

If you follow me on Twitter you will see that I posted a few pages from the issue with some commentary. This one is my favorite


Apr 11, 20 5:17 pm  · 
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It's bothered me more that I probably want to admit that Archinect provides a free platform for people to promote their own business through the blogging platform. I've kept to myself about it, but David C. McFadden's recent post triggered me. It is simple plagiarism with the only goal to be to keep his name and company in the spotlight during COVID-19. The post, if not his entire blog, should be removed. 

https://archinect.com/c4ablog/the-architecture-industry-is-getting-slammed-by-covid-19

Apr 13, 20 12:31 pm  · 
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Apparently not the first time he's plagiarized somone else's work and posted it to the blog: https://archinect.com/blog/article/150140227/top-recruiting-challenges-companies-face-and-how-to-overcome-them

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Wood Guy

I commented on that post as well. Clearly plagiarism, whether intentional or not.

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Thanks Archinect.


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b3tadine[sutures]

Nice!

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Update: I am now a part-time software engineer and a finish carpenter.

Apr 13, 20 12:53 pm  · 
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shellarchitect

Congrats, i assume those are both currently more stable than architecture

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Chad Miller

I've been wondering what things other than architecture I could do with my experience and education.  

Apr 16, 20 12:52 pm  · 
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citizen

Timely. How about set design; design review board; construction; curation; facilities/operations.... I also think flower-shirted clerk at TJs to be a noble alternate profession.

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tduds

I've been reading up on development.

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Chad Miller

Set design - did it in college -  fun but really, really low pay and a very, very competitive job market.

Design Review Board - you can make a living doing this!?

Construction Curation - what is that?

Facilities / Operation:  an option.  Too bad it has only the things I don't like about being an architect.  ;)

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citizen

Not necessary a full living at any of these, but possible as income sources. Design review as paid agency work, not volunteer board; sorry for that error. Building construction and (exhibit) curation are two different items.

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Chad Miller

How would one even get into the curation field? As for building construction I assume you mean like a site super and not a laborer. 8-)

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tduds

Before all this happened I was toying with set design as a side hustle. More for fun than money. I don't think it could be a sustainable career for more than a handful of people in the world.

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citizen

​I'm just spitballing on the topic of transferable skill sets-- most successful career leaps would probably rely on some kind of existing connections/ contacts (what else is new?). ​Curation could assume gallery/museum affinity, or possibly the trade-show universe. Construction could be swinging a hammer on up to supervision.

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Chad Miller

Good points citizen. Why did that sound like a line from a dystopian fascist regime? 8-)

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b3tadine[sutures]

I understand the need for masks in the healthcare field, however we need people to make masks for those in undeserved communities. Many in poorer communities can't shelter in place, and as we've seen, this b irus is hitting black communities harder, precisely due to the racism and economic disparities. We need the design community to produce for these Frontline communities, so that health-care workers can catch a break.

Apr 16, 20 9:43 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

Found TC on bottom of 2nd page... all lonely.  Giving it a loving boost.

Also, and unrelated to the zombie apocalypse but there is a blizzard outside my door tonight... 

Apr 21, 20 9:48 pm  · 
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Chad Miller

Actually the blizzard IS related to the zombie apocalypse. SNOW ZOMBIES!

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Another update: I'm launching a custom porch/stoop/step outdoor furniture company that makes semi-affordable outdoor furniture with a focus on using lumber and material from construction waste, recycled pallets and sustainably sourced wood.

Apr 22, 20 9:50 am  · 
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Chad Miller

What does 'semi-affordable' mean?  Do you mean the price point is 50, 60, 70%?

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About 30%-60% of the cost of EGO Paris or West Elm who charge a couple of grand for a small simple setee.

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I also itemize every foot of board, every bracket, nail, oz of paint, solvent et cetera plus labor cost... so if they want to swap out pressure treated pine for teak, there's not a surprise on pricing.

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If the wood was salvaged, I charge a small milling fee and donate about half of what they would have paid for wood to forest conservation.

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Chad Miller

Cool! Good luck with this! Do you have a link to any of your products?

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tduds

Very cool. I'd also love to see a portfolio or some photos.

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JLC-1

when did this forum became an outlet for fringe politics? kind of tiring to have to ignore a lot of people....


Apr 23, 20 3:46 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

Here's an idea for the archinect big green heads, put in an option to ignore individual threads. I'd make use of it.

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SneakyPete

Or, you know, moderate more strictly.

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Chad Miller

Or both?

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b3tadine[sutures]

Or, someone could start a Conspiracy Central, that way the kids throwing feces, could have a playpen all to themselves?

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Non Sequitur

^I like that one

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b3tadine[sutures]

Once that's done, all the feces flicking shit-gibbons can get tossed...

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square.

for real.. the occasional fringe opinion in tolerable.. but it's the manic back-to-back posts that are incredibly annoying (and worrisome)

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Non Sequitur

I'm imagining it'll be like watching an Ikea kids' ballroom play area from outside the sound-proof glass walls but the balls are a mixture of feces, balled-up tin foil, and rusty hammers. There is no adult supervision and the door to get in is like those weighted mouse traps. Once in, you're stuck. Oh, and there is a bar on the outside so we can have beers in silence.

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midlander

it's sort of a mental health thing though. the same lack of awareness and obsessive worry that keeps someone engaged with conspiracy theories also leads them to post unlimited sprawls of bitter ruminations.

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midlander

it's also a common reaction to difficult circumstances. common sense and reasonableness are secondary victims of a crisis, sometimes causing as much harm as the initial event. i find it reassuring in some way to see all the regulars who usually shitpost turning into CT-believers, it shows they are as connected to the world as the rest of us, just less willingly.

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wurdan freo

other forums limit politics to specific "areas" could be a good idea so every thread doesn't turn into a dumpster fire...

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wurdan freo

man... met with a railing guy yesterday and he was telling me about how he cleared two million last year and is forecasting 5 million this year... ayyy... why is the grass always greener? Somedays I just have to be reminded of stoicism and gratefulness... :) happy friday... at least i think its friday... 

Apr 24, 20 1:13 pm  · 
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SneakyPete

Him or his business?

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Wood Guy

Yeah, "cleared" may not be what he meant. I could see gross revenue in that range but it would have to be quite an operation for him to make $2M in profit, or a combo of profit and income.

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tintt

What's up dumpster divers? 

I have never wanted a kegerator more than I do right now. Who has one?

Apr 24, 20 1:51 pm  · 
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curtkram

i have a kegerator

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tintt

Is it the best thing ever?

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SneakyPete

Don't buy one to save money, buy one to enjoy fresher beer. Then make sure you want to drink that beer for a while.

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curtkram

to be honest tintt, i slowed down on making new beers and have been drinking domestic. there is one on co2 now that's ready to drink and the fermenter is full for the next one, so maybe there will be fewer cans in my recycle box in the next couple weeks.

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Enquiry

Is it usual that threads are being censored and taken down in this forum?

Apr 25, 20 12:44 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

No. Read the posting TOS.

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Enquiry

I made a post about the substandard level of education at a UK school of architecture. I understand that the Archinect staff would rather censor this type of posts due to PR reasons?

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Non Sequitur

PR? Nope. New posts don’t get posted right away from new users.

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liberty bell

You know that old saying about hitting yourself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when you stop? That’s how this profession feels for me lately. I only feel good when I’ve beat the hell out of myself meeting some  arbitrary pointless deadline. Wake up tomorrow and do it all over again.

Apr 28, 20 11:12 pm  · 
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curtkram

I feel like it will feel good when we skate through CA easy.

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Considering I just googled "what is the fastest chocolate chip cookie recipe" I think you guys can guess which way I'm headed during lockdown:


Apr 30, 20 9:45 pm  · 
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archanonymous

Donna, my recipe. They are tollhouse style, perfect mix of chewy inside with crunchy exterior and not puffy or flat. Ive made many, many times already during quarantine.

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archanonymous

2 Sticks butter, softened
150 grams white sugar
140 grams brown sugar
2 large eggs
1 tsp (5 grams) baking soda
½ tsp (3 grams, pinch) kosher salt, fine crystal
1 tsp vanilla, or more to taste
355 grams flour (best flour is mix of bleached white and unbleached whole-wheat for extra tooth)
330 grams semi-sweet chocolate chips

Technique:
Cream softened (but not melted) butter and white and brown sugar.
Cream in eggs on low speed. Add vanilla.
In a large bowl, sift together all dry ingredients (or stir with a fork). Add to sugar, butter, egg mixture on lowest speed, mixing as little as possible. Scrape sides frequently.
Remove whisk and scrape dough off. Add chocolate chips and fold in with spatula.
Place dough in airtight glass storage container and refrigerate overnight at minimum, 3 days for best cookies.
Use a spoon to ball cookies into irregularly shaped 1” balls, place on baking sheet with parchment or silpat, bake at 350 degrees for 11-13 minutes depending on cookie size.

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Seriously, cold dough going into the oven makes cookie texture so much better.

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curtkram

IMHO, has to be Crisco instead of butter

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curtkram, I literally fell asleep last night wondering what vegetable is used to make Crisco. Or is it petroleum? Either way, half Crisco/half butter makes the best combination of texture and taste in a cookie IMO.

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Volunteer

Donna, Isn't that Brad Pitt in the right hand side of the photo?

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Non Sequitur

^still hawt. Picture had to crop out Pitt's bulge tho. Archinect can't support that many pixels.

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Wood Guy

Ingredients, from Crisco's site: "Soybean Oil, Fully Hydrogenated Palm Oil, Palm Oil, Mono And Diglycerides, TBHQ And Citric Acid." We have lard from pigs we raise, which is great for baking and less unhealthy than the oils in Crisco. Breakfast today included fresh bread made with lard; it had excellent flavor and crumb.

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archanonymous

Palm Oil is generally terrible for the environment and the people that harvest it. Plus butter tastes way better. Also yes to lard.

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Volunteer I never liked you and now I know why. ;-)

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I did google Crisco this morning and when I saw it's made from palm oil now, instead of soybean, it gave me pause. I haven't used Crisco in at least a decade, but thinking about good cookies lately has made me want to try it again to get that course crumb I never get with just butter. I've never done sweet baking with lard (only savory), but perhaps I'll try it instead!

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archanonymous

Donna that's why my cookies are a mix of unbleached fine and whole wheat flour! Looking for that perfect chewy crumb but I'm not willing to use Crisco.

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That's also a good idea. I love the sweetness of whole wheat flour. My husband is not such a fan but I can sneak it in. Speaking of which, one of these days I'm going to make some cookies with cricket flour and feed them unbeknownst to my family (LOL not really. That's not acceptable. But I joke about it.)

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Trying not to laugh out loud as I read through the paid advertisement for a competition to design an airport. This was obviously written pre-COVID-19, and it has not aged well in the past few months. 

https://archinect.com/news/article/150194862/fentress-global-challenge-invites-students-to-push-the-boundaries-for-public-architecture

May 1, 20 6:58 pm  · 
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archanonymous

Its amazing how quickly our ideas about design have shifted! I just sat on virtual final reviews and the project (started at the beginning of the semester) was co-living style housing... can't imagine that such an idea will survive this.

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liberty bell

You guys, the movie Good Boys is SO adorably wonderful!

May 1, 20 9:50 pm  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

My first thumbs down!

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randomised

I’m pretty sure I was your first thumbs down ;-)

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OH MY GOD WE NOW HAVE THUMBS UP OR DOWN OPTIONS!!!!!

May 2, 20 12:38 pm  · 
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randomised

what’s with the ‘like’ and ‘dislike’ button all of a sudden?

May 2, 20 12:39 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

The thumb down feature works.

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I'M GOING ON A THUMBS UP SPREE RIGHT NOW ALL THROUGH THE FORUM WHEEEEEEEE

May 2, 20 12:42 pm  · 
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We've been planning the comment reactions feature for a long time. I'm glad to finally get it out. While it seems very simple and trivial (and nothing new for comments on the internet), I think it will provide a powerful new way for people to get a better idea about how their comments are received from members of the community. 

May 2, 20 12:55 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

Are these link to email notifications? My inbox can only take so much love.

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Archinect

you can set your preferences for reaction update notifications in your settings

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SneakyPete

Please keep the ability to see who up / down voted visible for all to see.

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b3tadine[sutures]

I'm looking for MN licensed Mechanical Engineers, well me and Liberty Bell are looking for them, anyone got any sole proprietors looking to steal from rich people?

May 2, 20 3:14 pm  · 
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Chad Miller

Let me make a few texts. I'll see what I can find in my home turf of northern Minnesota.

What type of work are you needing done and what size of the proeject?

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b3tadine[sutures]

I'm thinking about negative pressure vestibules, and staff changing rooms, to guard against rona, h1n1, other viruses...essentially cleanroom level of protection from infectious products, clothing, food, packages, etc.

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archi_dude

And you all are calling Jlax the crazy paranoid one here.....

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b3tadine[sutures]

you're dumb, i'm not paranoid, far from it, but i know rich people are; walls, protests, immigrants, chinese, soy, vegans....all things really wealthy families fear. i'm offering a service, to take away those fears, to protect, their precious family.

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farisamer

wtf.

May 2, 20 7:25 pm  · 
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randomised

May 4, 20 2:48 pm  · 
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randomised

since we have up and down votes now thought the forum might support emojis, but alas no aubergine :-(

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Chad Miller

I find is funny and a bit pathetic that j-lax created a second account to up vote is own posts and down vote people who disagree with him.

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Non Sequitur

I suspected something like that too when I got a strong of down votes from a user account I've not seen before. It's probably the liberals/chinese/aliens tho.


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Which user?

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Chad Miller

'we are in this together'


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Chad Miller

NS - it's the Canadians, we all know it so any denial just proves it was your brethren.

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SneakyPete

To be specific, 'we're in this together' . I blocked that one already, good to know that it's just another version of a known quantity, would hate to think the stupid was multiplying.

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Non Sequitur

Went through email trash. Can confirm that’s the one I saw earlier.

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Chad Miller

Is j-lax really that sensitive and pathetic to do such a thing? At first I thought it was just a troll but now I'm thinking he actually belies the crap it posts.

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Non Sequitur

^makes Ricky look like an academic.

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"we're in this together" is "FRaC" and "Wine CaveMAN" and "interpol" and probably a bunch of others. They like to change names quite a bit. Probably most widely known as FRaC, but I don't think they are the same person as jla-x.

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Chad Miller

I stand corrected - jla-x is just a sensitive an pathetic troll with one account.

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CodesareFUN

How many Thumbs Down notifications does Balkins get in a day now?

May 5, 20 12:02 am  · 
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Best part of the thumbs up and down voting is seeing who is consistently up or down voting the same users’ posts. In my mind people are forming little alliances. It’s especially telling when someone has gone back to vote on posts a few days old. 


Next, I’d like to see who is following me so they can get notifications every time I post. I have a hunch, but it would be great to confirm it. 

May 5, 20 1:08 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

It is interesting to see reactions.  Below is a quick chart of the reactions I've received over the last 24hrs (ish).  Not that the downvotes from King and Koww are related to my comments on the unpaid gig post.  


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SneakyPete

How did you gather that data?

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Non Sequitur

I filtered my inbox trash and made the chart. real low-tech. I still have notifications turned on.


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SneakyPete

Gotcha. Archinect, if you're willing, I'd be interested to see that data. Probably not useful in a wholesome, positive way, though. :)

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Even to just see on someone's profile the total number of up or down votes would be interesting. But yeah, probably not helpful in a positive way.

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archanonymous

EA, isn't that how Reddit works essentially?

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Probably, I don't really frequent Reddit though. I've seen it on other forum platforms, but it was only based on up votes ... no down vote capability. It offered a quick check on people who make substantive posts, or humorous posts.

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Non Sequitur

Reddit works on karma points... which goes up or down based on up-votes and down-votes. Your karma can swing dramatically if you're commenting in popular /r forums. I think comments get automatically hidden if the karma goes too far below zero. I don't frequent /r much because unlike archinect, I'm not confident that I'm interacting with mostly adults.

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I just wouldn't want to see the up/down vote total become a popularity contest or a measure of how "mainstream" or "contrarian" your viewpoints are.

I think it works for Reddit because you can mostly stay in a particular topic that matches your views. But it probably becomes more of an echo chamber than I would like to see on archinect.

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liberty bell

Non, this chart, I adore you!! I keep forgetting to ask if you listen to the Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe podcast? The hosts and Science Based Medicine guy are buddies.

May 5, 20 8:13 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

I used to, back when I listened to podcasts (had a 4.5km walk to office twice per day). Now my commute is far less and I can't keep up. It was a great show.  Cheers.

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molten

Serious question: Why do people on the internet argue about things knowing they will never change the others' mind?

May 5, 20 10:23 am  · 
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Chad Miller

Ego.

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tduds

I've said this before in the midst of such arguments but my goal in a debate is not to win over your opponent but to win over the audience.

I'm not trying to change my opponents mind, I'm trying to protect suggestible newcomers from seeing my opponents ideas go unchallenged and assuming it means they're good ideas.

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Non Sequitur

everyone needs a hobby

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citizen

Insecurity, in some cases.

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midlander

entertainment and exercise. sometimes in tracing out a line of thought; other times in exploring the personas presented by people i'll never meet.

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I reject the premise and will argue with you about it if you're game

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Wood Guy

All of the above, except what EA says (for me)--although many people enjoy debate for the sake of debate, I do not. But my engineer-y brain can't scroll past blatent misstatements without wanting to correct them, especially if I know the person, believe I know the correct answer and know they should know better.

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hard to get across in written form apparently, but my comment earlier was made with humorous intent.

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liberty bell

I’m losing it, so close to total burnout. This profession is bonkers.

May 5, 20 10:43 pm  · 
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curtkram

this is hard times. seriously, take a couple days of pto. take naps. if you need to get out of the house, go for a drive (in the country is better because we have sky and trees and more than 6' between people). if you don't stop what's building up in you now before it gets bad, it could become uncontrollable, so get out ahead of it and focus on you.

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Non Sequitur

my (almost) 4y old threw his shoes out of the window of the car while my wife was taking a drive earlier today. Now we're scrambling looking for a place that's open because his other shoes are getting too small. Not related to your situation or this profession but we're laughing pretty hard about it. Hope all is well and that you can split work and home long enough to catch your breath.

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liberty bell

I hear you, curt, but it is so hard to override decades of training in believing that we architects are super humans who can keep going no matter what.I can’t take a break, because the mechanical engineer needs my drawing, so that the contractor can price it, so that the client can decide to change it all again to save money, so I can spend more time fighting for fees to cover the changes than I actually spend designing a damn thing, and I do it 60 hours a week while getting paid for 32. It’s a fucking hamster wheel and frankly I’ve been looking for a new career for a while but this pandemic may just push me right into it! (I should be clear that it is not my firm‘s fault that it’s working this way, it’s a culture that sees architects as lackeys to the almighty client, a position we have put ourselves into. My firm is awesome but the system is a meat grinder.)

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liberty bell

And Non thank you for that story, yes, a child throwing shoes out a car window is somehow hilarious!

2  · 
midlander

it's tough with so many disparate things crowding for time and especially attention. wish you luck in finding space to get away and peacefully disengage from it all.

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square.

i've had my eye on the door for quite some time. unfortunately it feels like this pandemic is putting that on pause, but i'm looking to the other side. i hear you though- it really feels like a lot of this profession is becoming unsustainable, and frankly unenjoyable. regardless of the expectations school sets, the fact is like you said the architect is generally at the bottom of the pile, and we have more and more to manage every year with all this shit that they keep piling into buildings, while consultants somehow manage to keep their scope very narrow/reasonable. i'm hopeful that automation could really help with some of this stuff, but the rate at which things change in architecture i'm also skeptical.

1  · 
CodesareFUN

Same. Fuck this profession. All I ever wanted to be, sacrificed for it only to serve owners’ ROI and hate it more and more each day.

2  · 
curtkram

let's start learning from and acting like our clients and consultants then. somehow they are able to put a project on hold for a couple days without the world crashing down. we can do it to. manage expectations. communicate clearly. have a solid project plan and stick to it.

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square.

curtkram i agree this helps, and a lot of offices don't do this, but the problem i'm talking about is the fact that we have to oversee every single consultant, and the list keep growing every year, not to mention the things they do also get technologically more complicated (this problem isn't necessarily always there if your work is on the smaller scale). my point is the way in which architecture operates needs to change or the only thing we will be doing is putting out fires, like liberty is describing.


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archanonymous

​When it is worth it, it is really worth it - opening up a new building to see the students/ residents/ users move in, start interacting with the architecture, making it their own... it's incredibly gratifying.

1  · 
archanonymous

But those moments seem to get lost among the spreadsheets, the bullshit codes, the developer clients, the value engineering, the systemic elimination of any uncertainty or risk (the foundations of innovative architecture) in pursuit of higher profits for the builders, the owners, the developers, but never for us.

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Exactly - everything is in pursuit of higher profits for developers and owners, and usually at the expense of normal people in the community. I said on an online panel discussion about public space yesterday that as architects our clients are not just the people paying us, but the communities in which the project exists, too. I mean, I *could* become an automaton who spits out ROI, but that's not why I went into architecture!

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archanonymous

I often think it would be easier if we were just looking to make more money on projects - then you are talking a language the owner/ builder understands. "Why are you dissatisfied" "I need more money on our contract to make this worthwhile." "Ok, here's more money." versus "Why are you dissatisfied" "I need to work on projects in a way that address the social and cultural needs of our changing society." "..... um, ok. I guess i'll find another architect."

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Thought experiment: Would it be easier to be an automaton spitting out ROI if we didn't have to worry about the public's health, safety, or welfare? How can we best tell our client that we have to serve both their interest as well as the public's HSW, and that quite frankly they are being selfish with their own interest?

2  · 
archanonymous

It was at one point the job of our professional organizations to do that and to uphold those interests by eliminating competition on fees from the profession, among other approaches.

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archi_dude

So a few years back I left architecture 6 months after getting my license to go work at a GC. I got the shiny license but found no raise and remained a BIM monkey that was left alone but still very much a BIM monkey. EVERYTHING was/is better and I would NEVER go back. Designing my own projects for sure but never in a firm again. However the hours were longer and if you divide salary by hours worked it's sort of the same. What this pandemic has done is show me that once again my career could be decimated by a recession (started in 2010). While my friends in tech and sales are just fine, this whole thing has been a vacation, they work 100% remote, 20-30hrs a week and make way more. I'm proud of what I do and enjoy it and now 10 years in to my career feel as though I can contribute alot. But job insecurity, the hours that seem to create a divorce factory and the pretty average pay...I think I'm throwing in the towel on the AEC industry after this one and selling out. But what a ridiculous guilt, "selling out" it's a career, the whole point is to sell out.

2  · 
SneakyPete

Work to live.

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

I gave notice last Monday! FUCK YEAH!

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square.

sticking with arch? something new?

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This discussion of long hours makes me rather thankful that the first firm I worked at out of college didn't have a culture of long hours. In fact you had to get permission to work overtime - even if you where salaried. It was a nice place to work. Now I'm in Colorado and the culture here seems to be that unpaid overtime is normal. I refuse to work more that 120 hours of unpaid overtime a year (about 2 hours a week). I did the math and beyond those 120 hours my overall pay rate is too low to justify it.

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tintt

This burned-out architect spent the day on the couch. I was very successful at avoiding everything.

4  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

square., i am going to a new firm, plus they wfh exclusively, even before rona.

2  · 
SneakyPete

You're in the Bay Area?

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b3tadine[sutures]

No, I wish!

1  · 
SneakyPete

It's fest or famine out here at the moment it seems.

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proto

Donna, my mantra is "there are no emergencies in architecture"

repeat that to yourself a few times

when your client decides to offer you a slice of the risk/reward pie, then you can adopt his urgency as your own...until then, it's just a contract. If they want urgency, they can figure how to build that into their pro forma

"there are no emergencies in architecture"

"there are no emergencies in architecture"

"there are no emergencies in architecture"

May 6, 20 11:40 am  · 
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curtkram

we should all put Donna first today! Especially Donna

2  · 
tduds

THUMBS UP FOR DONNA

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Non Sequitur

This thumb up/down feature is awesome.  Just noticed one user go on a down-vote spree on me.  Doubt it they even know it sends me an email with their user name.

May 6, 20 10:11 pm  · 
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tduds

I thumbs up only. Spread the positivity!

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NS, I can't wait to see the next iteration of your thumbs up and down graph per user. The only reason I haven't turned off notifications for it is so I can do the same at some point.

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Non Sequitur

I may, or may not have created a gmail filter to store reaction notifications. We'll see how that works out in a few weeks.

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Non Sequitur

EA, I just discovered that if you mouse-over a thumbs up/down icon, a list of user names appears. Neat feature.

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If you click on the number a pop up shows the likes, dislikes, and who they are from

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archanonymous

Anyone else's 'Rona anxiety especially bad today? Or not so much anxiety specifically about the virus, just the deep ideological and partisan divide it has opened up in the USA.


May 8, 20 10:18 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

It's snowing right now where I am... so yes, a little.

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Wood Guy

Yes, less about the virus, though that is troubling. More anxious about the state of the world and especially the US. The machines are supposed to be taking over anytime now, right? Or maybe they already have and we just haven't realized it yet.

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tintt

Yes. Agree the anxiety isn't about the rona anymore but politicks.

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Exactly there with you, archanonymous. I've definitely become one of those people who is so confused by hearing so many opposing ideas that are all supposed to be true that I just want to give up and stop listening or even caring. But I can't. My curiosity about the world leads me to want to hear everything, but it's so hard to know what to believe these days.

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Non Sequitur

A local quarry owner sent out a facebook message yesterday telling parents with young kids that they can go forage the quarry for stones to paint and whatnot for free as this is a popular community scavenger hunt activity atm. Anyways, that lasted less than 24hr because adults without kids came with buckets and pillaged the quarry for their own landscaping. People suck and are selfish. This situation is just making it even more obvious.

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archi_dude

Spoken like a true fascist Non!

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Non Sequitur

^Thank you.

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tintt

Fascist?

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Non Sequitur

Tintt, it's ignorant speak for "don't agree with my vary specific and narrow pov".

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curtkram

i stopped listening. for better or worse, it looks like i'm supposed to put on pants and go back to the office o n the 20th.

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tintt

Oh, like You need to be a patriot!

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b3tadine[sutures]

x-jla, that last statement had three

1  · 
b3tadine[sutures]

My last day went like this;


May 8, 20 9:34 pm  · 
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liberty bell

The Californians always slays me!

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liberty bell

I’m 53 years old. Today I bought myself these:




May 8, 20 11:13 pm  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

Bell, you're the best!

1  · 
Wood Guy

Is your left foot really small?

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liberty bell

Perfect joke is perfect.

1  · 
Non Sequitur

will there be a video of your first use?

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Wood Guy

And happy belated birthday, of course!

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randomised

-x 


x-


https://youtu.be/vnXOAWoNADw

May 9, 20 5:45 pm  · 
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SneakyPete

Maybe the x-lax joke got him?

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liberty bell

It came up again today, in a professional situation, that I really love working directly with the owner/user (sometimes they are the same party ) of the space. I’m really good at listening to what people say they want and being able to interpret what that really means and how it can actually work for them. Also I love doing renovation projects.  Sadly I’m hardly doing any of this in my current project, and I am missing it hard.

May 11, 20 3:45 pm  · 
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Wood Guy

I thought your new job was supposed to be more client-facing than your last job? Can you do anything to get back to that? Clients can wear me out, but not working directly with them wears me out even more.

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tduds

I very much identify with this. Frankly, there's just more to pull from people's emotions than their pro formas. 

To your other point, I think the projects I'm most proud of have all been renovations + additions. Personally, I like to have extremely constrained conditions that I can find creative ways to break out of. Given a blank slate, I feel lost at sea without a creative "anchor" to grab onto.

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randomised

I hate working with/for people with very particular requests or demands that will never use the project themselves.

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Wood Guy

My first time in Dwell magazine--an article on the Pretty Good House approach and also a mention of BS + Beer: https://www.dwell.com/article/pretty-good-house-building-standard-43dc021f.

Ironically, the project of mine they used as an example is one of the most traditional-looking homes I've designed. The other examples are more typical Dwell. I love the house Jeff Adams of Atmosphere Design/Build designed (and built) for his family, the one with Cor-Ten siding.  

May 11, 20 3:53 pm  · 
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randomised

pretty good article!

1  · 
Wood Guy

We had to make some corrections but I think he has it close enough to accurate now.

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Nice work! I've always wanted to get into doing custom residential work. All the architects that don't do it all tell me it's impossible to make any money though. I have to wonder about that though as there are people like you Wood Guy who seem to be doing rather well. I'm so confused. ;)

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liberty bell

Well one, Wood Guy!! Your focus on low carbon means I’m feeling guilty about designing a Quonset hut but my husband is really enamored with the idea. And I’m pretty enamored with him, so...anyway, it’s a great article and kudos for sharing knowledge just to make the world a better place!

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Non Sequitur

Looking good.

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Bench

Well done WG! I’ve been tuning into the show for a few weeks now as well; I have to say that it’s way over my head for the most part but my game plan is to acclimatize via osmosis and soon be on your level... enjoying it regardless!

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Wood Guy

Thanks Chad! I can't say that residential is easy, and because I generally serve the middle class I'm not sure what the economic future will look like. I've never designed or built anything commercial and I'm probably too old to change at this point. For the last few years I've tried to do both construction and design, and haven't done particularly well at either, so now I'm focusing on building up my design work. I live in a rural area so I have to be flexible to keep the mortgage paid.

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Wood Guy

Liberty Bell, every project is a series of tradeoffs. I am drawn to the simplicity of Quonset hut forms. I think we need to reduce the carbon footprints of the buildings we design, but that's not going to get us where we need to be regarding climate change, so it also make sense to plan for a less stable future. I'm working on a new concept, building on the work of Alex Wilson, called Passive Resilience and incorporating a Passive Resilience Index. I think a well-designed, well-built Quonset hut could fare well on the Passive Resilience scale, even if it's not the best from a carbon emissions viewpoint.

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Wood Guy

Bench, I'm glad you've been tuning in! With my lifelong stutter I never thought I'd be hosting a talk show, but here we are. We debated whether we should focus on entry-level education but the idea is for it to seem like we're all having beers at a pub, talking at the level we would normally, and that there should be at least something for listeners at all levels. I'm sure it's not the best way for everyone to learn, but hopefully you glean a few nuggets that will add up over time. I learn stuff on every show so far. I would be interested in knowing if we should scale back the discussion level. Much of the discussion on our mini-split show was over my head, but we have received more compliments on that show than any other, so it's hard to know. Maybe we'll do a poll this week.

1  · 
Bench

Minisplits was one of the first i tuned into, which in hindsight was probably an unfortunate coincidence. That was heavy. The one on concrete this week sounds much more approachable in my mind.

1  · 
Wood Guy

Yeah that was a deep one! One of my favorites so far was the one we did on concrete-free slabs: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvAmHSecglp-u-DTFQlU8Tw. I think the information is pretty accessible in that one. We did not have the format dialed in yet (and maybe still don't) and the panel was too big but we had fun.

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Thanks for the candid response Wood Guy. I've done a few residential projects in my career and they where NOT easy. In my limited opinion the clients are more demanding than commercial work. Very satisfying to help create a home for someone though. :)

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tintt

Just took a call from a contractor who worked on my very first project when I was a (teenage) student intern. He's got work for me. 

May 11, 20 4:26 pm  · 
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proto

congrats, wood guy!

good read

May 11, 20 5:29 pm  · 
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Wood Guy

Thanks!

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liberty bell

So here is what is happening in my COVID lockdown world. There are so many zoom meetings and requests for me to comment from podcasts, online panel discussions etc. that whenever a calendar invite comes in I just respond “yes”. And then I assume when the event happens, that I will wing it. *I don’t want to be that person.* I want to be the person who is thoughtful and generous and prepares for everything so I can give my best. But there are so many sources of input right now, I can’t seem to plan ahead more than 15 minutes. 

May 12, 20 10:47 pm  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

Let me know if you want to practice saying no with me.

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tintt

I need help saying no. Actually, I say it but it is not heard. I said no to a job. I got pics this morning showing they already did demo and where are the drawings of the new layout? I need an email equivalent of taking the phone off the hook. 

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archanonymous

tintt, sounds like you should always say yes to these, but with increasingly escalated fees. Job already started? sure, i'll do it, its 4x.

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archanonymous

Donna, I said yes to everything for 4ish or so years and only in the past 1-2 have i become OK with saying no... the important realization is that if you do say no, you can do the things you really care about better. (which you seem to know at some level per your post) My favorite strategy is to give them the "no, I can't do it, but how about X person." and recommend someone a little younger/ less experienced with less commitments and a want to grow.

1  · 
tintt

Ah, here's another detail. This is a family friend who expects free services. Anybody want a free job? You can have it. It's free.

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archanonymous

lol. there's no fee high enough to work for a friend.

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Non Sequitur

I'm currently working on a small residential project. No fee and the client is a real asshole. The end user is really awesome tho, so it makes it all worth while knowing my son will (hopefully) have a wicked backyard fort for the summer.

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Wood Guy

On the last job I did for a friend I lost $7K and the friend. No good deed goes unpunished...

Non, a backyard fort sounds amazing! Some projects are worth doing even if the client is challenging. 

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I wouldn't mind building a fort for my nieces and nephews!


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Non Sequitur

Did I forget to mention that I’m the asshole client? I’m totally going to bail on my architect’s bill. His fault for not asking for a retainer.

2  · 
randomised

architects are the worst clients

1  · 
citizen

^ Some good comments on the subject of "no." It gets easier to say after some very painful "yes" aftermaths. (See the chart noting all the work while crying and panic stages that someone ;o] posted)

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Non Sequitur

So, it's not big surprised but my wife and I officially pulled the plug on our Disney summer 2020 plans. I think she held on for about 8 weeks longer than was reasonable. We'll have to try for next summer.

May 14, 20 11:07 am  · 
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We pulled the plug mentally on our summer travel plans a few weeks ago, but yesterday I started cancelling reservations, etc.

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Bench

Did the kiddo's know already? Or was it a surprise? Honestly I think its for the best - you don't want all of your photos from the trip to be covered in facemasks everywhere ...

1  · 
Non Sequitur

We had (they were sent home this week) friends in Orlando and one of my good friends is a Disney rep, so we don't have anything to cancel. We had our quotes and were waiting. Converting those trip monies into backyard landscaping.

Bench, the kiddo is almost 4.  He's not aware of anything.

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threeohdoor

Hey Friends,

So I got my job back, at least temporarily, at full pay. PPP application was originally denied, but then approved in the second batch. The principals re-hired everyone. Remains to be seen if there are enough projects on the vine to keep the staff through to the Fall, but here's hoping. 

At the very least, I have a subsidized period of time to look for work and/or figure out my future in architecture. 

Cheers.

May 14, 20 2:50 pm  · 
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Feeling pretty burned out this week and I'm looking for things to keep me from doing work ... so I was curious and put together my thumbs up, thumbs down chart (h/t Non Sequitur). Apparently I need to start posting more things people dislike to balance things out.

I debated whether or not to combine user's actual names and pseudonyms where they are known, but for now I've left them separate to 'protect the innocent.'

May 14, 20 5:53 pm  · 
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Why are you burned out this week?


By the way, you need to NOT protect the innocent.

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Ha ha, that sounds more interesting than it actually is. I only know of one person it would change anything for on my chart. This particular user is quick to clarify their real name when asked about it. I think they'd prefer to post under their real name all the time, but for whatever reason when they do anything from their phone's browser it shows up under their old screen name.

If you look at the first two posts at the top of this page, you can figure it out.

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I think my screen is bigger than yours NS. The first two posts on my screen are liberty bell and yourself and I know that's not your real name.

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Check out the comments here: https://archinect.com/news/article/150188248/melania-trump-is-building-a-classically-inspired-tennis-pavilion-on-the-white-house-lawn

Re: burnout ... mostly just a crappy month of project deadlines springing up out of nowhere, less ability to focus on work at home due to a 3-year-old running around, not having taken some time off for anything other than family medical issues in the past 1.5-2 years, canceling summer travel plans this week, etc. I just need a vacation.

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citizen

Don't worry, EA. I hate your posts  ;O]

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Yeah EA, I'll thumbs down a post for you right now 'cuz I'm a good person. :)

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archanonymous

Just tested it an apparently you can't give a post BOTH a thumbs up and a thumbs down.

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Non Sequitur

EA, I appreciate you putting the names in alphabetical order.

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liberty bell

Chad, I’m both liberty bell and Donna. Same person. I will point out that if you combined the two bars under my name and my pseudonym I do the most liking of your posts, Everyday! Non and nam are both second place right behind me.

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curtkram

get out. Go for a drive. Somewhere about three states away. take hand sanitizer with you

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randomised

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A lot changes in a day. I decided to stop 'protecting the innocent' when I realized there were more that should be combined / got more likes from people who had changed pseudonyms.


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