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Did something happen with the pages on TC? I thought beta's sexy rebar photo was the start of a new page meaning I didn't have to scroll through the political stuff up there ^^^ anymore. Now we are back at the bottom of the page.

Is this related to AlinaF getting their posts on TC nuked for whatever they posted in response to NS's photo?

Jun 3, 19 12:56 pm

and now this is the new page...lol

Non Sequitur

There were 3 very large spam posts earlier today. all 3 were on a new page, so I think It's just a coincidence that my last post was the end of page 1250. Perhaps the rebar appeared to you as to you as the start because you've "ignored" some of the discussion?

No, I haven't ignored anyone ... at least not using archinect's "Ignore User" feature.

What Non said. There was a massive spambot post - three posts that were each maybe 5,000 words long, plus video. They have been nuked.

Nope, pretty sure it was AlinaF getting all their posts on TC nuked. AlinaF had posts on page 1245 (see AUG 15, 18 5:19 PM, and AUG 21, 18 7:21 PM in cached version here) that are missing from the current page. Nuking those older posts (and others they had on other pages) would have reordered the page numbering from those posts forward, which is why I recalled beta's post at the top of this page, but now it is my post.

Here's another one of AlinaF's TC posts that got nuked, MAR 8, 19 6:01 PM cached here, current here.

tduds

What happened with AlinaF?

Non Sequitur

^his/her comment on my son's birthday post was nasty uncalled for. I guess the big green head agreed. Those nuked comments are no big loss as most of that user's contribution was lazy snark and thinly-veiled racism.

I never saw the comment, but I usually agree with the BGH's actions on things like this. Looks like the result is similar to Rick's ban from TC. No loss for me. I was just trying to figure out why TC wasn't like I remembered it. Mainly just making sure my mind was working and I wasn't imagining things where they weren't.

curtkram

the world keeps changing EA. codes change, expectations change, people change, TC changes. Don't get old and complacent because that's annoying. Got to keep up with change.

tduds

Poor Steve.

Jun 3, 19 8:14 pm
JLC-1

to the admins (big green head? why the nickname?) I don't know how this works apparently, I "ignored" a user , but he can still see my posts and answer to me? weird. I don't want anything to do with this user, is it possible to block him from seeing my posts?

Jun 4, 19 2:46 pm
jla-x

Lmfao.

Non Sequitur

JLC, I don't think the ignore feature works that way.

JLC-1

I understand that now, it's ok. I see he keeps trying, sad poor snowflake.

jla-x

“I want to say anything without critique from others, can you please help insulate my stupidity” what a snowflake. Lol

Threads started by a blocked user still appear.

randomised

You didn’t follow the first two rules of ignoring a user: 1: don’t talk about ignoring a user 2: you don’t talk about ignoring a user.

JLC-1

3.maybe you do, just to trigger the troll. there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Non Sequitur

I don't like cats

jla-x

Has JLC ever added anything of substance to the convo? He’s almost as bad as sneakypete. top 2 trolls on here.

randomised

So ignoring a user becomes feeding a troll, that’s not how cats are skinned...why skin a cat in the first place?

Non Sequitur

Carts are only useful for swinging in large circles as a fool-proof way to determine if a particular space is roomy enough (enough at least to allow said swinging of cat). Swigging a skinned cat would give you a slightly incorrect result unless you calibrate for the missing skin and fur.

Non Sequitur

*cats*

tduds

This, uh, ain't a good look JLC.

randomised
Definitely not a good look all this shadowbanning and deplatforming...
Jun 5, 19 6:14 am
Non Sequitur

What do you have against shadows? #allshadowsmatter.

SneakyPete

If you wanna stick around, try being less hateful?

jla-x

Who’s being hateful?

randomised

What do you mean Sneaky?

curtkram

what shadowbanning and deplatforming?

Non Sequitur

currently sitting in uber heading back downtown following a 7:30am site visit on a project that is already 75% and for which a permit will be applied for later today.  2 pages of drawings were provided for tender and still the GC did not read them. 



Jun 7, 19 8:22 am
b3tadine[sutures]

More sexy PT

Jun 8, 19 11:38 pm
b3tadine[sutures]

Ahhhh.....I'm all sexed up.

Jun 8, 19 11:40 pm
atelier nobody

You brut.

You know, when you're in the thick of trying to get a CD set out and there's a zillion minor things to coordinate and the owner and contractors are all screaming for their piece and the redlines are getting picked up by different people and the Revit file doesn't want to print to Adobe you just want to fucking walk away and get a job as a hotel maid.

Then the next morning you look at this fully-coordinated assemblage of information and feel like damn, I guess I really do know what I'm doing?

I mean nothing's perfect but of the at least 100,000 decisions that need to be made to do a project I think I consistently nail at least 99,500 of them.

Jun 11, 19 9:26 am
SneakyPete

I've been there, but I'm currently being humbled by the 500 we didn't nail in the final throes of CA...

I'm never that worried about the 500 we didn't nail, that's what addenda, change orders, and ASIs are for. It's the 500 that we didn't know we needed to nail that keep me on my toes during CA.

But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the feeling at the moment of getting a set out the door. Take a minute and relax ... you've earned it.

SneakyPete

Amen to that.

Almosthip7

At least its a Revit file and not a fricken AutoCAD "Fatal Error"

I am certain those 500 will have me crying in the fetal position under my desk sometime in the next six months, but yes I'm enjoying today feeling good about at least getting one set out the door!

Non Sequitur

I'd say the same, but with 2 extra "0s" on that 500.

atelier nobody

Having spent 5 or so years of my career pigeonholed doing CA, I would be sending you flowers daily if you gave me a 99.5% complete set of CDs. I've had projects where I swear I did at least half the detailing in RFI responses.

archanonymous

Congrats Donna!

liberty bell

If it helps, atelier, this was a small job. A regular-sized job is much less likely to be that good!

midlander

congrats, look forward to hear when it's built well. revits horrible interface with PDF printing is among my top 3 pet peeves about the software.

David Cuthbert

reading this has filled me with an ill-timed feeling of anxiety. Notwithstanding great when you make that goal, even if the 1% lingers in your head..."oh what did I forget?"

Non Sequitur

I'm drinking 10% beer on a wednesday night.  No, it's totally not related to me spending half my day "teaching" software.

Go St-Louis.


Jun 12, 19 10:21 pm
b3tadine[sutures]

Piker. Go 13%, or straight to cocktails.

Non Sequitur

I’m fresh out of the 13% brews. (That’s a lie)

proto

STL & Binnington were ridiculous last night -- congrats to them! I was rooting for BOS, but, while they brought pressure early, they just didn't have it. Cocktail of choice was the 100yr anniversary negroni...not very hockey-fan, but hey...!

Power2engineer's posts are truly legendary threads that will be long remembered here on Archinect. 

I love the mix of first- and third-person by the same person trying to pretend he's not an architect. It really adds depth to the dementia. 


Jun 13, 19 9:34 pm
Non Sequitur

^it truly is a masterpiece.

They really are. With time, I'm sure they will get better for me, but at the moment they've left quite a sour taste for me. Nothing I hate more than being misled, and I can't fathom the reasoning behind the misdirection from him. Seems completely unnecessary, and I don't think it really helped him in the end at all.

It's not clear which is the misdirection. Is he the architect, as he first claimed - or the client, which he claimed to be after which bashed the architect?

Steeplechase

The only thing I can think is that he didn’t want any state boards or courts looking at him. He obviously knew the regulations and knew the board existed. Filing a complaint in Pennsylvania involves filling out a web form, a task much simpler than spending months making posts across a slew of websites.

I have no doubt his intention was to deceive and mislead, but like Miles asks, in which direction. It was pointed out that he'd been playing the client much earlier than he was playing the architect ... but in his DMs to me he seemed pretty keen on asking me to delete any of my posts that suggested filing a complaint with the board or that disciplinary action would be appropriate. I don't see why he would be so keen on that if he really was the client. Like Steeplechase says, he really doesn't want anyone looking at him. But is this because he fears disciplinary action against him, or is he somehow trying to get back at his architect without alerting the board because some other shady crap is going on with his project (unpermitted work maybe)? Maybe given his past indiscretions he wants to avoid any scrutiny from the board.

Non Sequitur

I did see one post from him in a Pennsylvania legal forum where he claimed to have past felonies. There is certainly something he is hiding. Hopefully his threads are archived somewhere in case it gets nuked.

Definitely an architect, or trying to pass as one, and now terrified that the state and the client are going to give him a deep rectal probe. doGspeed.

atelier nobody

Wow. Just...wow.

Good point NS. I just had the Wayback Machine archive both threads.

LOL, that thread (I mainly only skimmed it) was hilarious. But s/he does at one point say s/he is a licensed PE, I think. So yeah, maybe s/he's worried about his/her *own* license while trying to figure out how to report a fellow licensed professional to the state board. Who has the time for that?

Bloopox

He is a licensed PE - I think that's why he's worried about action against him with the board. He is not an architect - at least not in Pennsylvania. He's the disgruntled client. (He posted variations on this same story on several other forums, some with his real name, so it's easy to verify this on the license lookup sites). He's been ranting about his architect (or sometimes it's his home improvement contractor or his kitchen designer - it's about as consistent as in all of his posts here) in various places for 6 months - I think the goal of posing as an architect was to collect some language from other architects that he could use to blackmail his architect (i.e. "return my fee or I'll report you to the board", but in archi-speak.)

Down the rabbit hole we go.

eeayeeayo

The weirdest thing to me is that when it came up that he spends a lot of time on sites for ex-felons he said that's because he helps people who commit petty theft to beat the charges. Why does he think that's a good thing? Who makes it their mission to help thieves, and why would he brag about it in the same thread where he's trying to convince us he's honest?

midlander

it's amusing but tbh it concerns me too. people with that degree of narcissistic delusion and willingness to subvert the truth to manipulate others tend to be quite harmful in real life. considering that, his interest in convicts especially is unhealthy.

kjdt

He's playing a game to get people to bash his evil architect character, then parroting them in his reviews about the architecture firm - he's been busily trashing the firm on houzz, porch, google, oscarpages, citysearch...

jla-x

“He is a licensed PE“. That explains it all. Every one I’ve met is weird.

kjdt I predict I will regret it but I kinda want to see the Houzz profile if you are serious?

kjdt

If you google the following (keep the quotation marks) it will take you to a few of the negative reviews he left about the architecture firm, including the one on their houzz profile: "Absolute Fraud, liar unprofessional watch out doing business with these cartoons. They would be sweeter than honey until you sign contract"

midlander

more interesting the firm in question appears to focus on mid scale commercial work, especially branded suburban hotels. so i don't think SFR is a staple for them. I bet this was some kind of favor for a friend of a friend that got all out of hand.

vado retro

Archinect needs a private legends lounge. 

Jun 14, 19 5:25 pm
Non Sequitur

How’s the draft list?

Kind of like Skull and Bones?

atelier nobody

The first rule of Archinect Legends Lounge is...

SneakyPete

...pretend to be an Architect?

Bench

so the power2engineer guy got his threads nuked? Pity, those were valuable cautionary tales.

Jun 14, 19 6:51 pm
eeayeeayo

I still see his threads.

Non Sequitur

Both threads are still there.

Archinect

The individual that posted the threads requested that they be deleted.

Non Sequitur

That's too bad. There was some real good discussions in there. Evidence of professional misconduct too, on behalf of the OP.

That stinks. Those were valuable threads. At least there are archived copies out there.

citizen

The episode underscores how common it is for people to forget that one's online stuff has the potential to come back and bite.

( e.g., So a 'friend' of mine was murdering puppies the other day and then found this really great kale smoothie place...' )

Bloopox

This kind of deleting threads on request makes me not want to bother participating anymore. Why spend time providing an informative response when it will just get deleted if the OP doesn't like the accumulated answers? It's the same thing that happened back with that high school kid who got offended at critiques of his portfolio. Threads can be valuable to people who come along with the same questions later - it shouldn't be up to the OP once there are any other responses.

shellarchitect

Big weekend for me.... $1500 check for a garage addition came in and got $250 for a comcheck from another architect friend. 

Just need to do about 100 more of these a year and I'll be able to quit my day job!!!


Jun 17, 19 10:21 am
jla-x

Cool. I got suckered into doing a “favor” for a family member. She just wants some free design work, that’s all...ugh. I broke my own rule....
I’m too nice.

Non Sequitur

Nice Shell.

JLA, I'm doing some free work for family too. They insisted on paying me and I said big no. I don't want to get dragged into this any further than I have to as I'm only "consulting" them on removing 3 load-bearing walls in their typical suburban townhome. I did the math for them, took an hour to draw up new structure and column placement... then set them on their way. My city allows for home-owners to submit their own permit as long as it's conforms with the basic codes.

jla-x

Ya, she offered to pay too, but she’s kind of a pain in the ass and I know that accepting payment would equal ball busting x 10 rather than regular ball busting. Love her, but professional pain in the ass lol.

bluesky3000

What a rollercoast of a thread this it

Jun 17, 19 11:53 pm
Non Sequitur

In response to the very entertaining other discussion with my namesake in it's title, I present the new Archinect MAGA hats.  Send me you monies now.


Jun 18, 19 9:24 am
SneakyPete

I refuse to wear even something lambasting that dumpster fire of a slogan.

b3tadine[sutures]

^ Yep.

randomised

That so called dumpster fire keeps Trump very warm and comfortable though in his White House.

b3tadine[sutures]

You think? It's seemingly only keeping him warm, and everyone else has moved on.

randomised

Need to look past the personal aversion and disgust and you’ll see he’s heading for quite a simple re-election...

SneakyPete

Need to look past the personal confidence and navel gazing and you'll see he's heading for reelection by default due to ignorance.

randomised

Fraid so

Non Sequitur

Oh boy, tough-crowd. I guess my comical attempt to draw a comparison to the other thread's OP and Trump tantrums is not as good as I had hopped. Perhaps it's because I don't live in trump's america and don't really have any experience with it. 25% discount to those offended.

SneakyPete

I'm not offended, I simply dislike any foothold Trump gains in pop culture. I'd prefer he remain the punch line to bad jokes about failure that he is.

randomised

But Trump is not a failure, he won the presidency and is set to win 2020 too...

tduds

Getting the job is not success. What you do with the job should be the measure of success or failure. By that measure, he's a fucking failure.

tduds

I really bristle at the idea of Election Day as the finish line. It's the starting point. Whatever you do to get into power is rendered meaningless the minute you're in. Of course, gaining and holding power for its own sake has a name... and history has not looked kindly upon leaders who embody that name.

jla-x

His achievements in office are not much better or worse than any other president in the last several decades. Can you specifically point to ways that Obama, Clinton, Bush were better to warrant the lopsided reaction to Trump. I don’t like any of them, just don’t see Trumps policies to be that extreme. He’s a centrist. His rhetoric and personality is extreme, but really what has he done that is more damaging than the last several presidents. If anything, he’s been less of a war hawk than all of the above. We are comparing poop and doodie, so I’m not saying he’s good or bad, just saying he’s not worse or better.

jla-x

In all honesty, if he had the persona and rhetoric of Obama, with the same policies, would anyone be outraged? Nope. Americans are celebrity whores. We care about personality first, product second. It’s why horrible musicians like cardi b and Miley Cyrus are famous.

randomised

Why is he a failure, at least Trump hasn’t killed as many (if any) innocent civilians as his predecessors. In fact he ends wars and brings home American boys and girls alive instead of in body bags...

1likejam

coming to a city near you! https://www.babytrumptour.org/

Non Sequitur

How many Hats do you want Rando?

randomised

Put me down for three magenta “Keep Archinect Great!”

Non Sequitur

DONE

tduds

1) https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-12-19/counterrorism-strikes-double-trump-first-year 

2) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207 

Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.

There are other easily sourced refutations to the other ridiculous claims above, but I'm busy today. 

Nice to see we're at the point where the president who overhauled the healthcare system, negotiated an imperfect but absolutely forward-moving treaty with Iran, and reopened diplomatic relationship with Cuba is "no better" than the president who has children in concentration camps, because the first guy *told us* about the foreigners he killed.

Maybe we deserve fascism. 

1likejam

tduds why you spreading fake news, mate . His recent Royal visit here to the UK, sparked widespread outrage and protest. but did make for some laughs...like his approval rating. https://www.irishnews.com/magazine/daily/2019/06/03/news/tower-of-london-projection-among-protests-against-donald-trump-s-state-visit-1633920/

1likejam

although, we are about to get our very own pound shop Trump with Boris Johnson. so shouldnt throw stones really

tduds

What?

1likejam

sorry, i was tying to do a sarcasm. He is largely seen here as a massive bell end. 

jla-x

tduds, you really need to tune out of the msm. Those concentration camps have been around for a long time, and serve a purpose that you are willfully ignorant of. It’s a terrible situation, but many of these kids come over alone. When they come with family, Adult facilities are very dangerous and we cant mix kids and adults in detainment for obvious reasons. When they come alone, or when family is in adult detainment, they simply can’t be let out by themselves because they are minors. Family members who claim them are rarely related and can’t prove relation. Some a human traffickers. It’s a horrible situation, but to suggest that Trump crated it is ridiculously fake news. Obama was called the “deporter in chief

jla-x

The kids are the victims of their parents, Democrats rhetoric encouraging them to make the dangerous and deadly trek across the desert for their own political agendas, and shit immigration policy that both parties created. What do you suppose we do with Unaccompanied minors who have no where to go? There is no humane option within the framework of the current broken immigration system. Did trump make it worse? Yes, but it wasn’t that much better before him. Having visited adult detention facilities, I can guarantee you wouldn’t want your kids mixed in there. We need to decriminalize immigration, make it easy, fast, and cheap. Neither party has done shit to make this happen.

jla-x

AND, get rid of private prisons!!! These mfers make lots and lots of tax payer dollars housing detainees.

jla-x

The politically owned media is spinning stories for their own benefit. Can you imagine how the NSA scandal would be perceived if it broke today rather than under obama admin? Or Libya? Americans are easily manipulated by presentation and marketing. Trump is an honest representation of what we are. When I see people longing for some polished polite politician like that jack off Beto...it’s because we want the facade. The facade is good enough for most people.

Non Sequitur

How many magenta hats are you ordering Jla?

jla-x

Oww magenta....that’s very Kanye of you.

tduds

I'm too stressed to get into this, but it's bewildering how many incorrect assumptions you need to make about me each time you respond to me. But how else would you shoehorn your boilerplate ad hominems into the thread?

tduds

"There is no humane option within the framework of the current broken immigration system." So fix the fucking system. Not a difficult line of reasoning, imo.

tduds

I'm probably not done responding but I should be.

tduds

Ok one more 

"We need to decriminalize immigration, make it easy, fast, and cheap. Neither party has done shit to make this happen." 

I agree! 

I just don't know why you need to come in guns-a-blazin with your idiotic Whataboutism every time someone mentions Trump is a racist incompetent fascist. "BuT oBaMa wAs aLsO BaD" ...okay, who gives a shit? Doesn't change the fact that our current president is a racist incompetent fascist.

tduds

ps Beto would suuuuuck as president. He might be an ok senator, he should go back to dunking on Cruz.

jla-x

Because no one has fixed it, yet political talking heads demonize their opposition and skew reality to make it seem like their side is “good guy”. Bull

Non Sequitur

buying my hats will help fix your system.

tduds

"Because of television, and for the convenience of television..." etc. etc.

tduds

I just can't help feel like we're at the end part of The Boy Who Cried Wolf where the wolf actually shows up.

jla-x

There are no good guys, just opportunistic politicians looking to acquire power. Once we all understand that, we will get back to the basics of a classically liberal order as we should. Checks and balances, limited govt, etc.

jla-x

Shouldn’t say “back to” because we never were really there.

tduds

Disagree. & even if there are no "good" guys, there are extremely variable levels of "bad", & equating them seems willfully ignorant.

tduds

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jla-x

Agree, but that’s exactly why we need to limit the power of government. The government is pushing in one direction, the people should push in the other. Instead, the culture has been tricked into thinking that a certain faction of government is your pal...a part of resistance...lol...we ought to be skeptical of all authority.

tduds

I'm glad we found common ground on this.

tduds

Might have posted this before but, relevant to the context of this thread, this is - in my opinion - the single most important letter in American politics. and it's almost entirely forgotten: http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch2s23.html

tduds

" The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right."

tduds

Anyway I'm not under the delusion that defeating Trump - whether by impeachment or election - is going to *fix* the country. But that doesn't change the simple fact that he should be defeated - if not by conviction then by election - because his behavior as president is, in my conclusions, impeachable ( https://www.vox.com/2017/11/30/16517022/impeachment-donald-trump).

tduds

Sorry to get all high-brow in your dumb hat thread, Non.

Non Sequitur

T'is ok Tduds. I'm quite oblivious to all of this.

tduds

Lucky.

jla-x

What was the impeachable offense? Also, if we find that the DNC and fbi were illegally spying on a political opponent would you want them prosecuted as well? And, to be fair, shouldn’t we prosecute HRC for obstructing Justice. Her email offense was clearly more extreme than Trumps obstruction offense. She literally destroyed evidence.

jla-x

Come on man, the whole thing is BS. Both sides are a bunch of jerk offs trying to win. It’s a sport. Anything they say or do to get there is simply a play. How people can sit there and buy into a career politician like Bernie or Warren, or anyone on either side, is beyond me. Trump won because many people realize this, and wanted to release the bull in the china shop that is Washington. Shake it up. What they got wrong is that Trump is also career politician. He just doesn’t play for either party, he plays for team trump. NYers understand this because we’ve seen him in the media since the early 80’s trying to get attention by any means he could.

jla-x

Bottom line, faith in politics is as ridiculous as faith in religion. It’s all make believe...people in silly hats looking to get a following so they can later f u in the ass.

jla-x

Now and then someone comes along with good intentions, but once they go through the political process they either get crushed by the machine, or get compromised by temptation of power. It’s not about good/bad like you said, it’s about humans not being able to handle that much power over other humans. We are not meant for this kind of stuff. It’s too much. Solution: maybe decentralized power centers. Maybe Small tribes. Idk, but the empire thing is not conducive to human nature.

tduds

"What was the impeachable offense?" You should read the things I linked.

tduds

I only have faith in robust systems.

tduds

You are once again conflating my indictment of Trump with support of some other non-Trump individual. I've made no such claim in this thread. I may support a certain candidate, but that's unrelated to this & irrelevant to my disdain for the current president.

jla-x

That vox article is awful. We have a system, it why we have 4 year limited terms. Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors. You don’t get to overturn a democratically elected president because you don’t like him. Sorry, that would be chaos. Why would the left want to even set that precedent. Are they that short sighted? In a few years the right will attempt the same once we open that box. It’s ridiculous and greatly expands the power of govt by taking power from electorate and placing it in the hands of political opponents. Impeachment will completely destroy the Dem party. The people would go nuts. If there was a clear crime, like collusion proven then ok, but come on...attempted obstruction of a probably illegally initiated investigation where no underlying crime was proven. Yeah good luck.

tduds

This is getting (surprise surprise) wildly off-topic, but - as might be apparent from my comments above - the play is not "Impeach the president and then do nothing else and assume it'll all be okay" There's a much bigger change that needs to come and frankly I have no clue when or how or if it'll happen. But that doesn't change my feeling that it's needed.

tduds

"Impeachment will completely destroy the Dem party." 

This is actually my biggest fear right now. The GOP has completely politicized the application of law, to the point where any attempt to hold their actions accountable will be used as justification for invoking that "accountability" in response to every single thing the Democratic (or any opposition) attempts, no matter how legitimate. If the Democrats impeach Trump, the Republicans will impeach *every* Democratic president.

Honestly the GOP needs to die. It's become a party of kleptocrats and authoritarians. I don't always agree with their policy proposals, but looking at their recent record, it's clear the Democratic party is at least mostly acting in good faith. The GOP, in my lifetime, has descended entirely into bad faith obstructionism and fealty to the donor class.

If the GOP withers, the Democratic party can fill the role of center-right party, which is in line with their establishment proposals. Then maybe we can have a legitimately left or center-left political movement in the US.


randomised

Wow, mad skills there Non ;-)

jla-x

I wanted to stop, I really did....but but but....the Republican Party and dem party are equally authoritarian man. How are republicans more authoritarian than Dems? Like actual policies not talking points...? What we need is a healthy left libertarian and right libertarian party. What we have are 2 slightly off center authoritarian parties that engage in culture wars and identity politics to distinguish themselves from one another.

tduds

Here 's just one example.

Also Merrick fucking Garland. To say nothing of their 

This is their play - take something the Democrats did once for a slightly different reason, and use it as a shield to do it *every time* forever.

The GOP has hijacked the process specifically to subvert democracy to cement their own power despite a diminishing electoral majority (actually a minority in the current electorate). Plain and simple.

The Democratic Party may pass a bunch of legislation that you don't like, but - to quote Walter Sobchak - at least it's an ethos. The Republican Party since at least Reagan, and really in earnest since 2010, has obstructed, disenfranchised, and cut taxes on the very rich. And almost nothing else.

I'll happily concede that the Democratic Party isn't great. But you're a fool to think they're equally bad.

tduds

"To say nothing of their..." I honestly don't remember what I'd intended to write there.

tduds

There's a quote I saw years back that went something like "The Democrats and Republicans were playing chess, then at some point the Republicans flipped the board and set the house on fire. The Democrats are still trying to win the chess game. "

jla-x

If we got rid of political parties things would be a lot better. Hopefully this whole Twitter politician thing is an early stage of these establishments getting broken up by a more decentralized egalitarian podium.

tduds

Political parties will never go away. What would help is to end the two party system. Unfortunately that's not going to happen until we change the way we vote in this country. And I really don't know how that even begins to happen.

jla-x

This is what tyranny looks like.
https://apple.news/AuUCiDLPYTwa-uY03Al8Cjg

jla-x

The left are masters of spinning tyrannical policies to appear “compassionate”. The right has tyrannical aspirations as well...too many people these days pledge allegiance to parties...

jla-x

Very little mention in the woke media

jla-x

What happened to “choice”?

randomised

Well, Democrat Obama deported over 100k people more per year than Republican Trump...

SneakyPete

Spam begone.

Jun 18, 19 2:02 pm
tintt

Has anybody here gone back for a Master's after getting licensed? Or is that a crazy idea? 

Jun 19, 19 11:40 am
Non Sequitur

Are you drunk? That's just crazy talk. Actually, my professional practice prof, who was licensed with some 2 decades of experience, was completing a M.Arch at the same time as I was. So maybe not too crazy...

atelier nobody

I've looked into doing one of the distance/online masters, but haven't pulled the trigger.

midlander

I've been thinking about this recently. Not crazy if it positions you to do better work and get engaged in teaching, and of course fits your budget. I'm curious to see some responses.

citizen

Yes, did this 4 years after licensure, and 8 years of practice. I wanted (needed) to do some studio-based creative design again after/alongside the rigors of project management. It was a great decision for me. It helped that I was in my 30s, and knew what I wanted to do-- as opposed to "I think I'll get a masters cuz it sounds fun." I also discovered how much I enjoyed research and writing, which opened the door to teaching. YMMV.

tintt

I do not want to teach. I am looking ahead a few years, want to set and accomplish the next goal. I would work while going to school, pay cash as I go I presume.

citizen

In my sitch, the teaching connections were not a goal (at first); they just arose along the way. I went for fun and enjoyment, but also new skills and practical knowledge useful for practice.

tintt

Citz, I can't help but notice you contradicted yourself. You either went for fun or you didnt.

thatsthat

I've looked at the distance/online program, but not convinced I want to pay the same amount as an in-person program for less credibility on a resume and most likely less alumni networking opportunities. I've thought about a standard MArch (and a PhD tbh), but I'm not convinced it is worth giving up my current position at my job and the potential salary growth. I would really love to teach though.

citizen

Point taken, tintt... let me clarify. After giving it a lot of thought, I went in knowing I'd probably enjoy it (or some of it). But that wasn't the only reason. I wanted more experience and knowledge, too, that would be instrumental. I ended up with both, fortunately. It didn't hurt that school was only 20 minutes from home-- logistics are an important part of such a decision, too.

tintt

Experience, knowledge, fun, a new college sweatshirt, I want it all. 5 min away for me... Is is unusual for someone already licensed to go back for a Master's?

citizen

Don't forget the official School Shot Glasses! 

I think it's pretty unusual for licensed folks, statistically. I had some classmates my age (and a couple older than that), but they were newer to the field.

tintt

I already have the shot glasses!

Threesleeve

There were a handful of licensed architects when I was in grad school - one was in his early 50s and the others all in their 30s - but all of them were people with non-professional undergrad degrees, who had become licensed in states that had an alternate route for people without an NAAB degree and they were all getting the M.Arch in order to be able to work in more states (or in one case to be eligible to become a partner in a firm that she was already working in, that had offices in the more restrictive states.) I don't think anyone was doing it just for "fun". There was one kind of head-in-the-clouds snooty doctoral student who had left his licensed architect career to be a theorist - I guess he might have counted as doing that for fun - though it was hard to tell if he was having any. 

 One thing I learned from the licensed architect students was a healthier attitude about school. They didn't usually get as extremely stressed or work as crazy hours in studio, because they had "real lives" already. Some had kids, some were working in firms part-time or keeping their own part-time practice going, and they were just a lot more relaxed about academic requirements and better able to compartmentalize it so it didn't consume their whole lives.

tintt

If it's just more of what I did in undergrad, then that gives me my answer. Maybe just some discreet classes is what I should look for.
Thanks all!

curtkram

I think the cost and time would make this prohibitive for most people. It would be best if you know your thesis advisor and want to work with them. Best of luck and lots of happiness to you.

midlander

citizen, what impact did this have on your career? were you going in with the goal to take on more of a design lead role? tintt, if i recall you have gone outside architecture and opened a business at one point. what is your goal for returning to study?

tintt

Goals: knowledge, enlightenment, exploration, challenge, mastery of process/craft, collaboration and network, degree certificate/line item on the list of creds, further blend of my two careers.

tintt

Help to find an edge or niche.

mightyaa

If it's for a edge or niche, maybe a second degree; urban planning, landscape arch, interior design... or certifications like NFPA, plan reviewer, etc. or just oddball/complimentary like marketing, project management, construction management, business, real estate, etc.

mightyaa

or you could be trained as a blacksmith (inside joke tintt would understand)

tintt

Thanks mighty. Ideally a second degree would be in structural/civil engineering but I don't qualify to even enter that program from what I can tell. Interior design is a possibility but there are obvious drawbacks... I have looked into online degree programs but don't see much of what I would get from them.

mightyaa

You could find a ABET accredited architectural engineering degree. Most of your architectural degree college credits should transfer leaving you just a smattering of advanced structural classes to take. But, that probably means relocation (no degrees in CO), as well as internship under a licensed PE... hence the bad option given your case. Maybe someone has a online option since it's really just structural classes; you should have studio and whatnots taken care of.

mightyaa

oh, and don't forget CO still allows grandfathering work experience. So, I could get you a nice high paying job here and you could intern for your PE credits for a decade :P

tintt

^ tempting. :) But one of my main goals is to never work a 8-6 type job again.

mightyaa

honestly though... go for certifications that help you sell architecture assuming you want to be your own boss. So figure out your interest, the markets you want to pursue, and start researching. Get em, add more initials behind your name, and charge more because those initials often mean 'higher qualified' than your competition.

tintt

Yup. That's it. Thanks!

mightyaa

Oh yea.. you can also do my route too if you want to blow money at the issue. Just collect licenses through reciprocity. Apparently, Joe Blow thinks having licenses in a dozen states means... in my best Ron Burgundy voice "In case you didn't know, I'm sort of a big deal." For your contract stuff, that might also be marketable.

tintt

This is all great, thanks.

Non Sequitur

Because it got lost in the above discussion.


Jun 20, 19 2:27 pm
randomised

Nice, don't want to nitpick but it misses the "!" at the end :)

tduds

I love that I can count on jla-x for an infinite political debate whenever my workday frustrations need a stupid outlet.

Thanks, guy.

Jun 20, 19 3:03 pm
jla-x

Lol. Ok I’ll stop.

I prefer real frustrations to
idiocy.

I know this isn’t exactly equivalent to power2engineer’s issue with kickbacks, but ...


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistleblowers-expose-billion-dollar-back-surgery-scam/?ftag=CNM-00-10aac3a

Jun 21, 19 10:34 am
midlander

so is the BAC some kind of cult? for a small school no one seems to have heard of outside Boston it gets an awful lot of comments.


Also amusing the post attacking that dean is the featured comment on his own promotional piece


https://archinect.com/BACStories/what-s-your-story-richard-griswold

Jun 22, 19 10:30 am
tduds

I think the source of BAC's bad reputation - deserved or not - comes from two things: 1) their unique structure. I can't think of many other Architecture-exclusive schools. There's also the lack of "campus" and, at least last time I saw, lack of permanent studio space that gives the whole space kind of a "community college" feel. And 2) Their open admissions policy. They'll accept anyone who can pay, and as a result, their graduation rate is abysmal. 

It seems to me that combination of open admissions, high failure rate, and non-existent social support network (as a result of no larger university institution + no cloistered campus space) leads to a lot of disgruntled ex-students.

kjdt

It has wider recognition than just Boston - I've worked with lots of people who went there (some of whom actually graduated and got licensed - others who left mid-way to work and never went back to finish their degrees.) Of those I've known in person who went there, nobody has expressed overall disgruntlement - and most have been very positive.

The thing the BAC has been most well-known for, going back 4 or 5 decades, is having a real part-time program. If you wanted to work a job with enough hours to fully support yourself, while getting an accredited architecture degree, that was one of very few places where you could manage it. A few other schools, like Drexel and University of Cincinatti, have long-standing co-op work programs, but they still require full-time attendance or close to it in some years or semesters. BAC doesn't. Also BAC was the first NAAB program to be offered mostly remotely. There are a lot more options for that now, but the BAC had that option as far back as the 1990s, while most of the others are much more recent. Students still have to attend in person for a few days once or twice a semester, but otherwise do not have to be in that region or even in the US.

It's not a cult - it's just not as large or widely known as some programs. It's similar to every time that Roger Williams or Wentworth or University of Hartford come up on the forum: people question whether they're real.  If you don't work in the northeast you may not have encountered many of they're grads - but they're real schools with architecture programs, that graduate qualified people.

midlander

yeah I realize it's a real school; I mean more what is it that inspires so many threads on BAC and deeply emotional criticisms or defenses of the program. Other schools' discussions tend to be limited to "how do i get in", and "how will it help me get a job" - not nearly so much personal concern about other schools.

randomised

It’s mostly due to one person resurrecting all the BAC threads since like forever on this forum to post the same response. There are not that many threads about it if you consider the years this forum’s up.

midlander

it would be nice if archinect had an antispam filter that blocked multiple posts of identical text...

Non Sequitur

Those people rarely stick around after they carpetbomb the forum tho.

Whoever said you can't argue with stupid was wrong. You can, but it's pointless. 

... 

Oh, maybe that's what they meant.

Jun 22, 19 9:41 pm
mightyaa

Paraphrasing from the movie Matchmaker... "What's it like being the village idiot?" Answer; "It's like being right all the time."

midlander

well you can't do much arguing with truth either. Somethings got to give.

Credibility? Patience? Civility?

curtkram

ya, the Zen koan in the modern age is "close the browser window"

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