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liberty bell

snook, I'll get the call mid next week telling me how deep a cut I owe. Sounds like I'm going to become an S-corp for next tax year. My accountant is getting more insistent about it annually!

I hope Brad isn't reading.

Oct 2, 09 2:11 pm  · 
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holz.box

nam, that was WSU, not UW

Oct 2, 09 2:17 pm  · 
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ugh, LB and snook, I may start asking for tax advice soon... I'm suddenly doing a lot more freelance volume than before (as in, I'm living off of it, actually feel self-employed for the first time in my life) and suspect that I need to incorporate.

Oct 2, 09 2:41 pm  · 
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holz, your right... But still 2000. Holy shit.

Oct 2, 09 3:27 pm  · 
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treekiller

Huzzah to Professor Curt Clay for getting IDIOM volume 1 published!!! and to think that he's taking on Rem with an attempt to write a 'Delirious DC' - very cool!

Oct 2, 09 3:32 pm  · 
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liberty bell

rationalist, for the moment just set aside 15-25% of what you make to pay in taxes. I know, it seems laughable when you're living broke, but it really makes a difference. For the incorporation, the word I got today was S-corp is the way to go, but it's going to cost you $1500 a year or so to administer, and unless you make more than $50k in a year you won't save enough to be worth it.

But your mileage may vary, of course. It's a LOT more paperwork than just being a sole prop.

Oct 2, 09 7:48 pm  · 
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url of google. lol. i

my suspicion: old people are just big google machines to the youth of today. why ask google when you can ask someone who studied something once.


;-)


thats pretty cool rationalist.


nice accessories orochi. can't imagine spending 700 on a belt. i would need to have a much higher income for that to make sense. oddly, spending 2 times as much on a laptop or a chair seems reasonable. psychology is weird thing ennit?



Oct 2, 09 8:23 pm  · 
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I think Orochi left out this part: buy the $700 belt send to India/China/Detroit have them mass produce it. Get back belt and a decent repro wear $700 return repro to the store.

jump I agree too much mental emphasis is placed on computer rendering, and most just look amateur to me, with really really BAD designs. I've repeated the line that they shouldn't even learn, but they don't listen... perhaps with good reason but I'd prefer to see someone investigate and push their design versus giving me a pile of pretty images

Oct 2, 09 9:31 pm  · 
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Kiss your loved ones... it's World Architecture Day (Saturday 3rd October 2009)

Oct 3, 09 12:24 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Oh no, the part that I left out was that i took on a project that turned out to be horrible and didn't want my name attached to it at all... even tax wise. The "guy" insisted on paying me so I made of list of ridiculous items and told him this would be more than enough for payment.

I barter.

Oct 3, 09 12:28 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Also, A-Philia... the reason to pay Thom Browne that much money for a belt is that the man in genius.

This was his FW09 fashion show: http://www.56.com/u56/v_NDEwMDY5MDE.html

So many sexy typewriters.

Oct 3, 09 12:30 am  · 
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you are philip johnson, orochi?

expensive clothes, don't take money for work you didn't like the outcome for....

thought you were struggling urban planner ?




can't agree more archi. i used to do renderings for offices as side bizness while student and was sometimes struck by fact that there was no way in hades i could ever be able to make some of those projects look good. too often was lipstick on a pig kind of job.

then look at early koolhaas and his attempt to use computers and the renderings are horrible but the work is strong enough it just doesn't matter. is nice when students can do both strong design and strong expression, but wish the focus was on the former instead of the latter. practicing architects too, sometimes...maybe it is that design is less accessible than rendering software?

Oct 3, 09 3:48 am  · 
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brian buchalski

for whatever it's worth, i am very tempted to give up on the computer for drawings and go back to the drafting table. how much bloody time is wasted on software updates & internet/archinecting while drawing?

Oct 3, 09 9:28 am  · 
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it is amazing how many students can't even express a design idea, quickly using plan/section/ scribbles... sad actually.

Oct 3, 09 8:44 pm  · 
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orochi - that's a very architectural video. Reminds me of the egoiste video of times gone by

Oct 4, 09 12:33 am  · 
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liberty bell

Relevant to the discussion of student rendering habits, this is my current Facebook status:

Liberty bell is submitting for a P/A Award. It's kinda silly, since my application reinforces to me how poor and out of date my presentation skills and software knowledge are, but maybe the project itself is earnest enough to catch someone's heart, if not their eye.

I'm submitting on a whim, and fully expect to not be recognized. But it's a good exercise to go through, and reminds my partner and I where we work relative to a lot of current architecture culture. I too wish students were learning more about building design and less about rendering design, but I also do see a lot of quality, considered work whenever I go up to Ball State to critique, so all is not lost.

I was always one to submit hacked together cardboard and trash study models and hand sketches on trace when i was at Michigan, where everyone else was using dremel tools to drill out bolt holes on their pristine basswood models. I did always - always - get a critique of my ideas, not the quality of my presentation products.

Oct 4, 09 8:44 am  · 
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saw that post on FB, LB. good luck. very cool that you are submitting. am definitely in your corner!


i feel like an old curmudgeon really but i used to have this idea that the great firms like OMA stayed fresh because they had students and all the freshness and lack of fear that entail...but i realise what they really have is a special subset of students and young graduates. students i am seeing lately are more timid than me! which just cannot be right. im supposed to be the old guy set in my ways, not the one encouraging everyone to forget reality for a wee while...

how strange to be an old man and feel younger than the 20 year olds.



i was same with the models LB. in my case was just laziness.

Oct 4, 09 10:01 am  · 
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liberty bell

Well, sure, laziness played into it a little, jump...but it does take rendering skill to make sketches/models look artfully sloppy, not just sloppy. ;-)

Oct 4, 09 11:52 am  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

this is why i hate, loathe, detest the current architectural pedagogy, and am wistful for the days of my education|

I was always one to submit hacked together cardboard and trash study models and hand sketches on trace when i was at Michigan, where everyone else was using dremel tools to drill out bolt holes on their pristine basswood models. I did always - always - get a critique of my ideas, not the quality of my presentation products.


ms. bell, has nailed it, and i too was in that same position. what i learned later, was that those talented model builders, in school, got the "cool" model jobs, and/or later became the cool renderers. i on the other hand, wanted to know just enough to be "adequate" at modeling and 3dStudio, and enough to be completely dangerous. it's the same with adobe tools, just enough, but not too much and let the pro's do the "real" "work" and i'll stick with the non-important stuff.

thanks liberty.

Oct 4, 09 1:44 pm  · 
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mantaray

that's funny, guys, I was "that guy" in school too. Much more about the ideas than the presentation effects for me. Thankfully as I went through school I learned enough to be able to put together concise, to-the-point presentations that didn't look sloppy or rushed and did justice to the ideas within... they weren't the glossy, over-the-top renderings and models but they did the job and earned me A's for my work, so that was good.

Wouldn't it be funny if it turned out that the community of architects active here on archinect are ALL the "that guys" of their studios? And the glossy renderers that thought through their projects for 1 day and rendered for 4 -- do they become commenters, sharers, and discussers on archinect?

*****
WWTCD :

I have reached the point where, with my architectural work experience ALONE, I have crossed over to a 2 page resume. HOWEVER, some of that experience is internships while in school.

Q : is a 2 page resume OK nowadays, or should I retrofit to 1?
Q : if I retrofit to 1, should I drop some of the older internships (~ 10 years old) OR can I do something like collapse 2 or 3 together with a shared "experience" explanation under all three? Like so :

Intern Architect, Firm A, summer 1997
Intern Architect, Firm B, part-time during school year 1998, summer 1999
Intern Architect, Firm C, part-time during school year 2000, summer 2001

Duties at all internships consisted of space-planning, 2d and 3d drafting and rendering, client presentations, project administration, etc etc etc...

*****
what do y'all think? thanks!!

Oct 4, 09 4:11 pm  · 
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brian buchalski

keep it to one page. although you'll want to have short blurbs/summaries for your recent jobs, the old ones can be covered without any detail. just list when & where...and if they want to know more about any of them then they can ask you for an interview

Oct 4, 09 4:43 pm  · 
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toasteroven

another "that guy" here.

Oct 4, 09 4:51 pm  · 
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I was a presentation person... I definitely had the messy study models as things developed, but there was a point at which I said "pencils down" and concentrated on the presentation. Not because I didn't think the ideas were important anymore, but because I really enjoyed the presentation part of it too.

Manta, I'd only do one page. I collapse my internships similar to what you've done, but don't bother to describe them at all. They show that I have experience going that far back, but nobody bothers to ask about them (unless they happen to know one of the people I worked for). Also, what point size are you using? Most architects have unnecessarily large type, and it's fine to go down as small as 9pt.

Oct 4, 09 4:54 pm  · 
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liberty bell

manta, I agree with puddles and rationalist.

When I was in undergrad, I made a conscious effort to experiment with a new presentation technique with every project, so I did get to a point when I stopped designing and focused on making those ideas look good. This was in the hand-drawn days, of course, so by new techniques I meant things like using bright pastel on butcher paper for one project, and white Prisma on black for another, etc. Because felt at that point I needed to learn a hand as much as learn how to design. Man - I wish I still had that hand!

Oct 4, 09 8:30 pm  · 
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Distant Unicorn

What happened to the "Looking for 15 on-line reviewers" thread? I was going to an email!

Oct 4, 09 8:31 pm  · 
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Manta, One page, is usually best i think.

How did everyone do this weekend? Busy work, or fun?

Orhan, that Futurama post is wicked. The whole trans-Amazon road touch was interesting.
So dated but also still the contemporary future.

Oct 4, 09 8:33 pm  · 
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ellebelle, I did a bit of that myself. One semester I decided to do it as cheaply as possible, all Autocad (so no color or jpegs), constructed the perspective old style with no modelling and hatches for shading, to print on the cheapest size of page we had. Another time all black line on vellum, rendered in prisma markers on the backside. Thesis was all about extrusions, sections done in model instead of drawing, that sort of thing. It was fun.

Oct 4, 09 8:51 pm  · 
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busy weekend and my shoulders are killing me. Had a late class on Friday, came home and pretty much crashed. Was up early to head to the east coast of the island with 50+ students as part of the class I'm filling in for 3 weeks. I had no idea what I was doing, but they all knew I was there filling in. So instead I made it a walking tour (in 90+ degree weather and a healthy share of humidity) recalled some of my Kevin Lynch, but brought in some other things like edges - how the town dissolves from the centre. The centre in this case is a malfunctioned clock. Then headed to a birthday party for an old friend in the night and was up early Sunday morning to go to brunch with another old friend but got caught in the fog, mist and rain of the mountains. Any minute now I'll probably crash heavy week ahead

Oct 4, 09 8:51 pm  · 
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who's in chicago between the 23rd and 26th?... besides me, that is. would love to meet up at some point.

Oct 4, 09 9:38 pm  · 
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treekiller

Got a developer (need I say more?) visiting my class this week. One of my students freaked and started slinging mud on our course website. So I'm crafting a response to post in the morning (with the missus) to make this a teachable moment about acting like a professional in class.

My syllabus stated clearly the requirement to act civilly and respectfully in class... [sigh]

Oct 4, 09 11:37 pm  · 
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mantaray

myself the elf, of course, SW!

Oct 4, 09 11:46 pm  · 
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trekiller that is funny. well, not really. i understand disgust for developers but if we don't understand what makes the developer's heart race how will we ever work out how to influence them to make better choices for environment and cetera. maybe you can teach the kids that being closed minded is how we fucked things up with this planet to begin with...





nice way to describe it, beta.

i do have to admit there is a flaw in the process though. after i graduated m.arch i was nominated for a really cool prize that got me a free trip to italy to present with the other finalists and meet ben van berkel and see renzo piano and all kinds of cool stuff.

it was amazing experience and i think apart from 2 guys who were exceptional, just exceptional, everyone of the finalists were very good (i include myself because i am not humble). but the winners of the prize (there were 4 winners) went to the exceptional guys and then to the people with the best renderings.

so rendering does matter. if i had worked harder on what my project looked like am quite sure i woulda won the award....


i would like to hire those guys someday but they are not renderers. instead they are starting cool offices or teaching at world class schools.

which says something. not sure what. but something....


;-)



Oct 5, 09 12:50 am  · 
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b3tadine[sutures]

jump, i hear you, i love a sexy rendering just like anyone else, but man i do really like walter pichler drawings|

Oct 5, 09 6:49 am  · 
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liberty bell

myself the elf...manta, were you a Brownie?

That drawing is awesome. So awkward. I had forgotten about his drawings. Remember those drawings of the Oxygen House (linked to BLDGBLOG). So gorgeous. Painfully so.

Oct 5, 09 7:32 am  · 
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Morning all sounds like people were busy.

Tree, although as jump says i can see why some may have a bad opinion of developers it is slightly non-professional to say the least , to start slinging mud on the course site.

Besides whoever it is will need to learn how to play nice if they want to ever get anything large built.


Oct 5, 09 8:20 am  · 
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maybe they don't want to build, just tear down, nam...


feels a bit like the crazy guy who would sit by the road yelling at people driving cars because they were wrecking the earth by doing so. he didn't achieve much.


that is beautiful image/painting. reminds me a bit of the artist who did the stinky cheese man. a favorite of my children.

Oct 5, 09 10:36 am  · 
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mantaray

I've had to work with a lot of developers in the past few years. Some are complete idiotic buffoons intent on making money and screwing whomever they need to in the process (including John Q Public), some are intelligent and thoughtful people intent on making money but also wanting to create something worthwhile and aesthetically pleasing in the process.

You never know... these students need to learn that developers are human beings and exhibit all the gamut of psychologies and many of the motivations that human beings exhibit. They pretty much are all in it to make money (or else why become a developer) but that's not necessarily a bad thing; a lot of plain vanilla residential clients have that motivation as well. It's all in HOW you want to make the money.

One of my favorite clients ever so far was technically a "flipper" developer.

Oct 5, 09 11:11 am  · 
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mantaray

Technical question of the day :

How close can I reasonably shove a standard 2" hollow metal door frame against the corner of the wall? I've been giving my doors a typical 4" from wall corner to edge of door leaf (leaving 2" for frame and 2" for drywall) just because that seemed reasonable. IS that reasonable, or should it be more? And if I HAD to, could I jam the thing straight into the corner, so that it's just 2" for frame with no exposed drywall?

Oct 5, 09 11:13 am  · 
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mantaray

Also, THANKS for all the great resume responses -- very helpful! Although I'm bummed that I can't cop out to two pages, of course!

Oct 5, 09 11:14 am  · 
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brian buchalski

a really ugly duck. that's bizarre. there really aren't many ugly adult animals in nature. do the cruelties of "survival of the fittest" weed them out? humans are far too kind to our own species by allowing ugly & ill-fit children to reach adult hood. we really should let nature deal with them & not provide these ugly kids with the privileged environments that architecture provides.

Oct 5, 09 11:53 am  · 
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treekiller

manta- don't forget the depth of the door knob/handle ~4"

my response to the mud slinging was:

I welcome critical thinking and discussions in class, however if you
have issues with course content, please direct them to me personally.
You are welcome to ask our guest tough question, but please do so in a respectful manner - name calling is never appropriate. A key professional skill is the ability is to listen to folks that you may not agree with and find common ground to achieve success.
Oct 5, 09 12:03 pm  · 
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liberty bell

Perfect tone, tk.

Leftover Moroccan stew for lunch. Yum.

Oct 5, 09 12:14 pm  · 
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mantaray

ah yes, TK, brainfart. I knew there was a reason I felt like I couldn't shove it closer than 4" to wall. doorknob it is. Thanks!

Oct 5, 09 12:30 pm  · 
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brian buchalski
america the beautiful
Oct 5, 09 5:16 pm  · 
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nicely written TK.

Oct 5, 09 8:55 pm  · 
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holz.box

beta w/ the pichler love! nice.

anyone catch the energy bomb of an exec order obama dropped today?

for federal agencies:
30% reduction in vehicle fleet petroleum use by 2020;
26% improvement in water efficiency by 2020;
50% recycling and waste diversion by 2015;
95% of all applicable contracts will meet sustainability requirements;
Implementation of the 2030 net-zero-energy building requirement;
Implementation of the stormwater provisions of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, section 438; and
Development of guidance for sustainable Federal building locations in alignment with the Livability Principles put forward by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Department of Transportation, and the Environmental Protection Agency.

bout friggin time...


cue whining about environmental stewardship and energy self-reliance as socialist/fascist in 3...2...

Oct 5, 09 9:24 pm  · 
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but only for federal agencies. mazria has bigger fish to fry. watch for his proposal to the administration that there might be more fruitful uses of $31b in stimulus money than public projects.

Oct 5, 09 10:01 pm  · 
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****melt

Woo-hoo!!! About friggin' time indeed. SW - It's gotta start somewhere though. Although tomorrow I'll be hearing random people in the office bitch about it. That's not so fun.

Oct 5, 09 10:43 pm  · 
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vado retro

so a friend of mine may have the swine flu. i am sick but not fluey. just scratchy and cranky.

Oct 5, 09 10:49 pm  · 
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toasteroven

Holz: One

Oct 5, 09 10:53 pm  · 
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