donna, did you get to see much of the inside of the Federal Building by Morphosis/Thom Mayne. Maybe that interior spatial experience was the reason it won you over?
Nam I wouldn't say Fed Building had to win me over at all, as I tend to like Morphosis' work - I like the burly brashness of it, the use of materials, the reduced palette, and interesting spaces. The upper floor Skydeck is wonderful - so amazing to be partially enclosed but outdoors up that high, and the way the screens fold up to it is nice. Everything's BIG.
What won me over, a little, was Libeskind's Jewish Museum. The interior space is silly (kinda McMansion two-story foyer, honestly), and the ramming of a cubish shape through an old building is still, to me, so first-year-studio in sophistication. BUT! The urban space of the plaza and the tension between the cube, the adjacent office buildings, and the church at this knuckle of urban space is really, really nice. Don't know if Libeskind did the plaza design or not...
...oops, just looked it up and guess what? Libeskind di NOT do the plaza, someone called Handel Architects did. So my softening on Libeskind just crisped back up a bit....the stainless steel cladding is really lovely, though.
Yeah, what is this Canadian Thanksgiving? Is it really the same idea as ours, Indians, Planting corn with fish bones, turkeys and cornucopias, or is it something different?
haha Donna! That was awesome. Yes, Canadians have always been super smug about not being Americans. Hating on Yankees is right behind hockey and moose humping. But at the end of the day every Kanukistani's secret wish is to go down on a yank.
Last week was crazy busy with site verifications in Texas and Colorado, only to find out during my layover in DFW on my way home that my house was broken into AGAIN. My poor friend was the one that discovered when she came to feed the furry kids. This time they broke the back door window and took the TV. The dectective believes they were also casing for copper. Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! WIll be getting a new basement door installed, sans window pane (currently what is in place) and glass block windows so the motherf***er has a hard time getting my copper.. Spent the entire weekend running around trying to fix borken glass, prep door for painting and replacing old lock with one they cannot open without a key. Criminals suck.
On the flip side of the coin, I have recently gotten in touch with an old friend from high school and am delighted by what seems to be amazing compatibility. I am cautiously optimistic that this friendship will bloom into a long lasting one.
Carry on folks... at some point jump I intend to look at your work. Just haven't had the time. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to all the Canucks.
Rusty, being that it was Thanksgiving, did you use cornbread, or some other form of stuffing. I always wonder what non-southerners eat instead. I was shocked when I learned that some have MASHED POTATOES with their turkey dinner. Craziness!!
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mashed potatoes sounds good to me for thanksgiving. better than cod for christmas.
to be honest i didn't know it was anything close to the holiday american or canuck version. there ain't a turkey to be had out where i live anyway so doesn't really matter.
do take a look someday melt am curious what you think. better yet check back in a year or two. we got some nice stuff cooking now. and only took 5 years to get here.
Donna I didn't get to go to the skydeck although I can see how that would be a wonderful spatial experience...
And as for mashed potatoes Sarah, maybe it is a midwest/southern thing but everyone on my father's side of family in Missouri eats mashed potatoes for Thanksgiving and I now down here in FL we do too.
yeah, i think we always have mashed potato with EVERY big family meal. that doesn't take the place of the stuffing or other sides. it's just one of the staple dishes when a bunch of people get together. it's yet another thing to spoon the gravy over!
We have sweet potatoes, stuffing/dressing, green beans with bacon, turkey, and if we're down south with my Polish relatives, there's always a pickle and olive tray. And of course, there's always the pumpkin, and pecan pies. Don't get me wrong, I love mashed potatoes, is there anyone that doesn't? But, I don't know that we ever have them at celebratory meals. Maybe Texas is just different, or maybe it's just my family.
Sorry SH, I was just teasing. We do stuffing as well, and green beans (no bacon, sister-in-law is a vegetarian) salad, homemade rolls and a bing cherry, almond and green olive jello mold. It sounds gross but the sweet and salty balance each other perfectly.
I've only just recently discovered the deliciousness of sweet potatoes. Not sure why my mom never made them. They rock, especially with salt, pepper, nutmeg and cinnamon. Yummmmmm!!!!
My recent Thanksgiving menus have included turkey, stuffing, green beans (usually in casserole form), rolls, cranberry sauce, and au gratin potatos with both regular and sweet potatoes. Making Thanksgiving dinner is one of my very favorite things. I'm always a little disappointed whenever we spend Thanksgiving with my wife's family because I don't get to cook. Plus, her family's stuffing sucks!
Not sure why youre sorry, melt. No need to be. My sweet potatoes are awesome, if not awesome for you. I chunk two large S.P.s, then add one and a half sticks of butter cubed. Toss with a cup of sugar, lots of cinamin, and a bit of nutmeg. Then bake it all for an hour or so. I don't put the marshmallows on because it's sweet enough as it is.
I love stuffing, but not when they put boiled eggs in it. I'm a bit of a yank when it comes to my stuffing/dressing.
sarah - I'd take cornbread stuffing over mashed potatoes any day... although the only time I ever really have mashed potatoes is with thanksgiving dinner...
I don't think I've been to a thanksgiving where there wasn't the gelatinous mass of cranberry goo in the shape of the can. where I live you can get fresh cranberries, so, IMO, there isn't any excuse not to make fresh sauce aside from it taking more space on the stove.
I should also mention that I use white/yellow sweet potatoes in the 2 potato au gratin. They are firmer (and supposedly more nutritious, not that that matters on turkey day) than the orange ones, which we call yams where I'm from.
Also, I love the cranberry goo!
And, the boiled eggs are one of the reasons that I hate my wife's family's stuffing.
We had fresh cranberry sauce one time. It had seeds, and I remember not liking it. I love the canned stuff. The lines from the can make it oh so easy to slice evenly, but I never serve it. I bet that if I had the real stuff, withthe seeds strained out, I'd love it too.
People put boiled eggs in their stuffing?!?! That just seems blasphemous if you ask me. My mom makes a great cranberry relish with orange rind, sugar and fresh(ish) cranberries. It's better than crack. My dad likes the stuff outta the can but we kids never really acquired a taste, but we practically fight over the homemade stuff my mom makes. For the record, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday the older I get.
Phillip - I've only ever seen the orange sweet potatoes. You've now got me completely intrigued.
I usually love thanksgiving. This year I'm a tad nervous because it's the designated time to meet the manfriend's parents. Eek.
And Manta, I would totally vote for you doing the project. Just know that it may not be the most profitable project you've ever done as you'll need to spend time getting reacquainted with things you've forgotten and getting up to speed on the NYC codes. But don't look at that as a barrier to entry, it's your opportunity to get back in the swing of things.
sarah i can't get over the idea of marshmallows on sweet potatoes. is that a normal texan thing?
we have sweet potatoes a few times a week. and wee pumpkins as well. they are both normal parts of japanese diet. i find all that the starch a bit much but my kids love it.
Stuffing with boiled eggs sounds weird. But I'll try anything twice.
I made delicious homemade cranberry relish one year, with orange zest and I think a little wine? My inlaws didn't touch it. Since then I just get a can. I also made a fresh version of the ubiquitous traditional green bean casserole, with sauteed mushrooms and cream...did not go over well with husband or his family. So now it's two cans French cut green beans, one can French's fried onions, and two cans of Thomas Pynchon's Universal Binding Ingredient, cream of mushroom soup.
Sarah, my dad makes that in the microwave every year (sometimes a couple times a year). My sister has a bourbon sweet potato thing she makes, too. Good stuff.
Donna, I remember posting my cranberry relish with orange zest recipe a few years ago in the recipe thread, did you get it from there? I make that stuff all the time.
Yams and sweet potatoes are similar, but different. Yams grow in tropical regions and are sweeter and bigger. (Brought to you by the elementary school teacher side of me.)
Seems like Melt proved you all wrong on the great sweet potato debate, but just in time for us to share our new found knowledge at the Thanks Giving table.
I have been racking my mind today, running the numbers on the "International Existing Building Code," Chapter 12 Compliance Alternates. The numbers will work but I think it is less expensive to put in a sprinkler system. However once you put in the system you wil always have the Water Bill refecting your potential demand for water usage. It is funny how private water companies figured this out. They have to size their pipes to provide adequate water pressure to put out a fire...ya ...like all of the town is going to burn down at once.
Anyhow....my numbers are good if the client is willing to bite a bullet on a few items. I'm still going to push them in the direction of a fire sprinker system as it is an assembly occupancy.
Company coming from Denmark, in a couple of hours....YaHoo...and more company from Brazil on Sunday...we are entertaining party animals. Come on by if your in the Neighborhood!
We eat alot of sweet potatoes at our house....just baked or made into baked french fries with some olive oil on them along with mystery spices. sweet tatter sticks...
I was just thinking how I wish I had more parties. I wish my family could partner up with at least two other families, and each would host a game/get together and drink night on Friday evenings. I think it would be fun to see the same group of friends every week, and that it would be good for our kids to have those life-long family friends. Of course, mine wouldn't be as international as yours, Snook. But I bet it'd be fun just the same.
Sarah....it has been " Balls to the Wall" all week trying to get all those Honey Due projects done....then I had a few persons things I need to take care of like take the car in for an oil change and a car wash.....and wouldn't you know it cause it was misting no car washes....that is until the owner walked in and I told him I was really hoping to get my car washed cause we were going to be touring around looking at the leaves. He had the guys pull back the cones and run me thru the wash at no charge...Yahoo.... Former Clients can be the best....and there was no charge! We are in the holding pattern right now as our friends have landed in NYC and are headed north...dinner should be in about 45 minutes.
Well hell. I really wish I could just put on architectural blinders and not get so worked up about the unjust and idiotic crap this world seems to spew more and more of lately.
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donna, did you get to see much of the inside of the Federal Building by Morphosis/Thom Mayne. Maybe that interior spatial experience was the reason it won you over?
Barry don't know whether to laugh or cry....
morning all.
Happy Canadian thanksgiving motherfuckers!
We slaughtered all our injuns a full month before you guys did.
dude that 's so not right.
Nam I wouldn't say Fed Building had to win me over at all, as I tend to like Morphosis' work - I like the burly brashness of it, the use of materials, the reduced palette, and interesting spaces. The upper floor Skydeck is wonderful - so amazing to be partially enclosed but outdoors up that high, and the way the screens fold up to it is nice. Everything's BIG.
What won me over, a little, was Libeskind's Jewish Museum. The interior space is silly (kinda McMansion two-story foyer, honestly), and the ramming of a cubish shape through an old building is still, to me, so first-year-studio in sophistication. BUT! The urban space of the plaza and the tension between the cube, the adjacent office buildings, and the church at this knuckle of urban space is really, really nice. Don't know if Libeskind did the plaza design or not...
...oops, just looked it up and guess what? Libeskind di NOT do the plaza, someone called Handel Architects did. So my softening on Libeskind just crisped back up a bit....the stainless steel cladding is really lovely, though.
Are you guys really anti-capitalist?
sorry, wrong thread.
Yeah, what is this Canadian Thanksgiving? Is it really the same idea as ours, Indians, Planting corn with fish bones, turkeys and cornucopias, or is it something different?
They give thanks that they're not United States-ians. "Thank you for the 49th Parallel" goes the song.
haha Donna! That was awesome. Yes, Canadians have always been super smug about not being Americans. Hating on Yankees is right behind hockey and moose humping. But at the end of the day every Kanukistani's secret wish is to go down on a yank.
Slurp splash yum!
I'm still alive.
Last week was crazy busy with site verifications in Texas and Colorado, only to find out during my layover in DFW on my way home that my house was broken into AGAIN. My poor friend was the one that discovered when she came to feed the furry kids. This time they broke the back door window and took the TV. The dectective believes they were also casing for copper. Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! WIll be getting a new basement door installed, sans window pane (currently what is in place) and glass block windows so the motherf***er has a hard time getting my copper.. Spent the entire weekend running around trying to fix borken glass, prep door for painting and replacing old lock with one they cannot open without a key. Criminals suck.
On the flip side of the coin, I have recently gotten in touch with an old friend from high school and am delighted by what seems to be amazing compatibility. I am cautiously optimistic that this friendship will bloom into a long lasting one.
Carry on folks... at some point jump I intend to look at your work. Just haven't had the time. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to all the Canucks.
Donna, did you pose for this painting?
Holy shit! I want a Donna painting!
I'd hang it right next to the bear I killed and stuffed with my bare hands this weekend.
Rusty, being that it was Thanksgiving, did you use cornbread, or some other form of stuffing. I always wonder what non-southerners eat instead. I was shocked when I learned that some have MASHED POTATOES with their turkey dinner. Craziness!!
Interesting:
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1) Participants in architectural competitions in Illinois shall comply with the Act. All services, such as preliminary design and design development, are to be prepared by or under the direct supervision and control of an Illinois licensed architect.
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mashed potatoes sounds good to me for thanksgiving. better than cod for christmas.
to be honest i didn't know it was anything close to the holiday american or canuck version. there ain't a turkey to be had out where i live anyway so doesn't really matter.
do take a look someday melt am curious what you think. better yet check back in a year or two. we got some nice stuff cooking now. and only took 5 years to get here.
Donna I didn't get to go to the skydeck although I can see how that would be a wonderful spatial experience...
And as for mashed potatoes Sarah, maybe it is a midwest/southern thing but everyone on my father's side of family in Missouri eats mashed potatoes for Thanksgiving and I now down here in FL we do too.
morning all
yeah, i think we always have mashed potato with EVERY big family meal. that doesn't take the place of the stuffing or other sides. it's just one of the staple dishes when a bunch of people get together. it's yet another thing to spoon the gravy over!
What else would you eat with your turkey except for mashed potatoes? I mean you need something delicious to pour your grazy over.
We have sweet potatoes, stuffing/dressing, green beans with bacon, turkey, and if we're down south with my Polish relatives, there's always a pickle and olive tray. And of course, there's always the pumpkin, and pecan pies. Don't get me wrong, I love mashed potatoes, is there anyone that doesn't? But, I don't know that we ever have them at celebratory meals. Maybe Texas is just different, or maybe it's just my family.
Sorry SH, I was just teasing. We do stuffing as well, and green beans (no bacon, sister-in-law is a vegetarian) salad, homemade rolls and a bing cherry, almond and green olive jello mold. It sounds gross but the sweet and salty balance each other perfectly.
I've only just recently discovered the deliciousness of sweet potatoes. Not sure why my mom never made them. They rock, especially with salt, pepper, nutmeg and cinnamon. Yummmmmm!!!!
My recent Thanksgiving menus have included turkey, stuffing, green beans (usually in casserole form), rolls, cranberry sauce, and au gratin potatos with both regular and sweet potatoes. Making Thanksgiving dinner is one of my very favorite things. I'm always a little disappointed whenever we spend Thanksgiving with my wife's family because I don't get to cook. Plus, her family's stuffing sucks!
Not sure why youre sorry, melt. No need to be. My sweet potatoes are awesome, if not awesome for you. I chunk two large S.P.s, then add one and a half sticks of butter cubed. Toss with a cup of sugar, lots of cinamin, and a bit of nutmeg. Then bake it all for an hour or so. I don't put the marshmallows on because it's sweet enough as it is. I love stuffing, but not when they put boiled eggs in it. I'm a bit of a yank when it comes to my stuffing/dressing.
sarah - I'd take cornbread stuffing over mashed potatoes any day... although the only time I ever really have mashed potatoes is with thanksgiving dinner...
I don't think I've been to a thanksgiving where there wasn't the gelatinous mass of cranberry goo in the shape of the can. where I live you can get fresh cranberries, so, IMO, there isn't any excuse not to make fresh sauce aside from it taking more space on the stove.
I should also mention that I use white/yellow sweet potatoes in the 2 potato au gratin. They are firmer (and supposedly more nutritious, not that that matters on turkey day) than the orange ones, which we call yams where I'm from.
Also, I love the cranberry goo! And, the boiled eggs are one of the reasons that I hate my wife's family's stuffing.We had fresh cranberry sauce one time. It had seeds, and I remember not liking it. I love the canned stuff. The lines from the can make it oh so easy to slice evenly, but I never serve it. I bet that if I had the real stuff, withthe seeds strained out, I'd love it too.
People put boiled eggs in their stuffing?!?! That just seems blasphemous if you ask me. My mom makes a great cranberry relish with orange rind, sugar and fresh(ish) cranberries. It's better than crack. My dad likes the stuff outta the can but we kids never really acquired a taste, but we practically fight over the homemade stuff my mom makes. For the record, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday the older I get.
Phillip - I've only ever seen the orange sweet potatoes. You've now got me completely intrigued.
canadian thanksgiving is suspiciously close to the start of hockey season, eh?
I usually love thanksgiving. This year I'm a tad nervous because it's the designated time to meet the manfriend's parents. Eek.
And Manta, I would totally vote for you doing the project. Just know that it may not be the most profitable project you've ever done as you'll need to spend time getting reacquainted with things you've forgotten and getting up to speed on the NYC codes. But don't look at that as a barrier to entry, it's your opportunity to get back in the swing of things.
sarah i can't get over the idea of marshmallows on sweet potatoes. is that a normal texan thing?
we have sweet potatoes a few times a week. and wee pumpkins as well. they are both normal parts of japanese diet. i find all that the starch a bit much but my kids love it.
myriam, can you just do design drawings? Otherwise, it doesn't sound like a job for an out of town architect.
Stuffing with boiled eggs sounds weird. But I'll try anything twice.
I made delicious homemade cranberry relish one year, with orange zest and I think a little wine? My inlaws didn't touch it. Since then I just get a can. I also made a fresh version of the ubiquitous traditional green bean casserole, with sauteed mushrooms and cream...did not go over well with husband or his family. So now it's two cans French cut green beans, one can French's fried onions, and two cans of Thomas Pynchon's Universal Binding Ingredient, cream of mushroom soup.
Gosh is anyone else hungry now?!?
Never seen this, huh?
AAAAAAAgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!
Whoo. That scared me. I like yams savory, not sweet. But I do love toasted marshmallows.
amazing! no never seen that before sarah. don't think i could bring myself to eat it ;-)
boiled eggs in stuffing eek! but i do occasionally eat marshmallows and sweet-potatoes so there is that.
and i love cranberry relish.
nite all.
So what's the difference between a yam and a sweet potato? Or are they the same?
Sarah, my dad makes that in the microwave every year (sometimes a couple times a year). My sister has a bourbon sweet potato thing she makes, too. Good stuff.
Donna, I remember posting my cranberry relish with orange zest recipe a few years ago in the recipe thread, did you get it from there? I make that stuff all the time.
Yams and sweet potatoes are similar, but different. Yams grow in tropical regions and are sweeter and bigger. (Brought to you by the elementary school teacher side of me.)
yams are orange. true sweet potatoes are white.
Barry - I just found this link. Looks like sweet potatoes can be both white AND orange. Who knew? Well, not me.
Seems like Melt proved you all wrong on the great sweet potato debate, but just in time for us to share our new found knowledge at the Thanks Giving table.
Barry thought of you when I was visiting one of my favorite blogs http://mlleparadis.blogspot.com/2010/03/la-river-what-you-might-find.html
Hope you enjoy! damn you might even know the blogger for all I know!
I have been racking my mind today, running the numbers on the "International Existing Building Code," Chapter 12 Compliance Alternates. The numbers will work but I think it is less expensive to put in a sprinkler system. However once you put in the system you wil always have the Water Bill refecting your potential demand for water usage. It is funny how private water companies figured this out. They have to size their pipes to provide adequate water pressure to put out a fire...ya ...like all of the town is going to burn down at once.
Anyhow....my numbers are good if the client is willing to bite a bullet on a few items. I'm still going to push them in the direction of a fire sprinker system as it is an assembly occupancy.
Company coming from Denmark, in a couple of hours....YaHoo...and more company from Brazil on Sunday...we are entertaining party animals. Come on by if your in the Neighborhood!
We eat alot of sweet potatoes at our house....just baked or made into baked french fries with some olive oil on them along with mystery spices. sweet tatter sticks...
I was just thinking how I wish I had more parties. I wish my family could partner up with at least two other families, and each would host a game/get together and drink night on Friday evenings. I think it would be fun to see the same group of friends every week, and that it would be good for our kids to have those life-long family friends. Of course, mine wouldn't be as international as yours, Snook. But I bet it'd be fun just the same.
you should start that up sarah. sounds fun.
bloody hell but it's busy outside. am really looking forward to taking a holiday someday.
Sarah....it has been " Balls to the Wall" all week trying to get all those Honey Due projects done....then I had a few persons things I need to take care of like take the car in for an oil change and a car wash.....and wouldn't you know it cause it was misting no car washes....that is until the owner walked in and I told him I was really hoping to get my car washed cause we were going to be touring around looking at the leaves. He had the guys pull back the cones and run me thru the wash at no charge...Yahoo.... Former Clients can be the best....and there was no charge! We are in the holding pattern right now as our friends have landed in NYC and are headed north...dinner should be in about 45 minutes.
Well hell. I really wish I could just put on architectural blinders and not get so worked up about the unjust and idiotic crap this world seems to spew more and more of lately.
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Hi Fapper Crapper! I have a feeling you are not new around here.
All this food talk is making me Hungary.
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