archca26: What do you mean?

afrdzak - how are Berk and Sci-Arc opposites? I know little about Berkeley.

Depends on what you want AV. UCLA might have better faculty and a better reputation in LA for graduating students that can transition to offices well. SCI ARC students tend to not know much about building or practice. SCI ARC has better facilities probably but is run by the crazy ass EOM!!!

Not sure how I would compare Berk and SCI ARC...but i would say Berkeley is further away from SCI ARC than UCLA in comparison

Relative to each other, I feel that Berk is more conservative and practical in their design approach with much less "blob" work. Being part of College of Environmental Design, they have always had a focus on environmental sensitivity.

Sci-Arc is "newer" and probably "trendier."

my impression: sci-arc = new technology, form, experimentation. ucberkeley = earth-conscious, worldly, philosophers. but then again lisa iwamoto teaches at berkeley...

Berkley found a Dean yet?

archca26

What is EOM?

I found (in visiting and brief talk w/ students) Berkeley to be a rather down-to-earth program with more sustainability, urban design (it IS called the College of Environmental Design after all) and practical/technical emphasis. Sci-Arc was by far more conceptual, progressive, and "out there". I do remember that Berkeley kids emphasized that they are not restrained by their profs and if some of their projects were "out there" or more along the lines of what one would expect at Columbia or Sci-Arc... they were allowed to pursue it... I found that interresting... they seemed quite eager want to dispel the notion that they were conservative in design.

witty, well unfortunately the areas directly around UCLA are pretty expensive...we're talkin' Bel Air, Northern Brentwood, Westwood. But my first year I lived in Brentwood (the lower part near Wilshire blvd. and I biked a few times : ) to school. If you bike through the veterans hospital compound it's pretty quick...BUT really the thing to do is to find out where the Big Blue Bus goes and look at those neighborhoods too. From Brentwood and E. Santa Monica it's a pretty quick ride on the BBB. I also lived in W. Santa Monica and Venice Beach; that's about a 30-45 min ride on the BBB but very worth it in terms of being near the ocean. If you go south from UCLA, into what I call "the grid" (sort of just generic West LA, cross streets Santa Monica blvd, Wilshire Blvd, Olympic Blvd, Pico Blvd. etc.) you can find a ton of apartments and it's somewhat bikeable, depending on how far you are, but again, the bus runs there too. The BBB is very clean and I believe there's a discount for UCLA students. Also, UCLA has housing for it's grad students; you don't have to take it but it can be pretty good, though market rate. Finding a neighborhood near UCLA from which you can walk to campus is a tall order.

if we're talking sci arc I would look at Eagle Rock, Pasadena, Miracle Mile (near LACMA), Silverlake, Los Feliz. I love these parts of the city, lived near LACMA in a crazy building that looked like a castle...

nothing's really gonna be walkable, unless you live in downtown, which is starting to be gentrified. only hearty and brave souls bike LA...

Thanks guys for all the Berkeley vs. SCI-Arc info - and pbandj - thanks for the helpful LA info.. hopefully I'll be needing that info ver soon. :]

Thanks guys for all the Berkeley vs. SCI-Arc info - and pbandj - thanks for the helpful LA info.. hopefully I'll be needing that info ver soon. :]

I am from Almeria, the desert of Europe, studied in Madrid and came to NMSU as exchange student-year off....

haha Spain is great, but if I want to study Architecture there it will take ever ...

So who all is coming to the Penn Open House April 7th?

about the U. Penn openhouse - quite possibly

Ripo: regarding imposter syndrome: at least you're from another discipline and have an excuse to suck! Us arch background ppl have polished portfolios that we're destined to not live up to (at least thats how a feel right now).

Moca: I'm in Canada and have heard from Gsapp but not GSD

Oh and finally, my list:

Columbia: IN
Princeton: OUT (bastards...)
GSD: ?
Yale: ?
Berk: ?
Toronto: ?
SciArc: ?
Penn: ?
MIT: ?

I'm gonna kill my mailman....

RISD!!! my dad just called and said a big package arrived at home.

doesn't sound like any scholarship money though.

btw, i didn't get any emails or phone calls. just postal notification for those of you wondering. so i guess there's still hope for those schools that *appear* to have notified everyone already.

this is for m.arch 1.

L.A. is so awesome...i miss it so much...and am feeling like an idiot for applying to only one california school...oh how i miss the sun!

Thanks pbj and afrdzak for the la info and the other general sciarc vs berk vs ucla info, its all very helpful. Having gone to undergrad 45 miles east of LA, i know the neighborhoods only very superficially in LA and its helpful to have an insider's knowledge.

congratulations chzzzcake!

EMAIL FROM RICE! MARCH 2 WITH $$!!!!!

Count:
in: UCLA
Wash U
CCA
Columbia
Rice

waiting: UPenn
Sci_Arc

say yes: that's great....Rice is awesome.

For those interested in Cornell

I just called them to get the stats of admission this year for

M.Arch I
Apps: 288
Accepted: 24

So that's about 8.3%

Open house on April 11, who's going? :)

sweet, put that stat on your mantle

wow. are you sure? that seems awfully low.

i'm in at cornell as well...but that just doesn't make sense. so, are 100% of cornell people on archinect?

pbandj ,
I just emailed you some annoying questions about living in LA :-)

re: cornell stat

They couldn't have accepted 24! perhaps a target enrollment of 24, which means they accept about 40. but even princeton accepts more than 24.

ff - be sure to pass those on to me :]

thanks!

yeah i agree with Druvius. there's no way it's that low. i think that's how many spots there are.

smithwillb,...

I dont remember anyone on these threads ever having the success you have.


A V, my question was....if one lives , say in santa monica...and say it is 45 minutes away./..I mean how do you go to studio for 18 hours a day? an dthen you spend 45 in transit...seems hectic, i dunno...when I am studio, a sleepy commute seems difficult.

nope i second the Cornell comment~!

I received a phone call from the dean

and its true!!1

8.3 percent...shocking but true

perhaps the "princeton-effect" has taken its toll on another school

FF33....well...i'm sort of shocked as well. so is everyone else. because well, it certainly wasn't expected. maybe i prayed too much. i don't know. but i am very grateful, humbled by this process. it's been a crazy year.

are you going to UCLA!? that's going to be awesome. i wish i applied there...actually never mind, i don't wish i applied anywhere else...maybe harvard. but that's it.

i still don't believe it. i'll ask them tomorrow. taking the bus up to Ithaca.

i thought Cornell always accepted a lot of people because no one wants to move there. so they have to extend their congratulations to a few more maybe unworthy but devoted students.

ff3, i just emailed you a response but as i'm a non-arch background don't know how helpful my take on doing UCLA as an arch student will be...but driving caffeinated down Wilshire blvd at 70 mph at 3:00 am is all part of the experience : )

Druvius:

Sorry, maybe what number I received was the intended class size. But it's up from 15 - I think 24 is a good number.

So assuming an yield rate of.. 60% they should have accepted 40 in the first wave?

sayes....i know that rice is a small class (around 12). does everyone receive full tuition, or are some partial?

speaking of Princeton, where is asbuck,..that was his favorate school...(too bad they only accept 3 ppl or whatever it is).......he seems scarce...actually I am jealous ..I need to get off of here and go for a run...or something.


smithwillb , hey man,,,bask in the glory..haha you probably worked very hard to get here an deserve your good fortune...I hope all those choices don;t actually make this a harder decision for you.

mmmmithaca! enjoy your trip smithwillb! springtime means the dirty snow starts melting and the roaring gorges are spectacular.

i was waitlisted at cornell ... still awaiting the verdict. i did my undergrad there. loooooved it, but not sure i can do it again. oh, ithaca.

anvi: yeah sometimes it's not clear whether it's "acceptance" rate or "enrollment" rate, as both tend to be called "admission" rate.

Not like it really matters, but since we're all shooting the shit and waiting for this godforsaken month to end.

so cornell .... out

YbTH -- Cornell is on spring break this week. it would appear that all acceptances have been sent out since i've already been put on a waitlist, but i do not pretend to understand the admissions process. therefore, it isn't over until you hear.

ohmygosh i think im going to cornell...

did you really love it?

how is the "graduate scene" out there>?

is there much to any interdisciplinary mixing/meeting?

Hows Ithaca?

God id love any inside scoop!

another Penn MArch II admission... Yay!

So.. Will we all meet at the open houses?

East coast, anyone? :)

I forgot to mention I also asked about when the packages were sent out

They were sent out last Wednesday, March 12
Emails were sent out two days ago, March 18
I'm not sure if that's only for international students or not.

I will be in Mexico City since this night.

bristow, i ramble, i ramble a lot ... so i sent you an email!

ff33- EOM is Eric Owen Moss

afrdzak - in regards to my comment early it was sort of a joke because they asked that letters be sent from the writers to the school. Sorry if I caused a panic but you never know with the UC system!!

Sorry for the delayed response, it was lunch time!

I think with ay of the three schools (berkeley, ucla, sci arc) you cant go wrong on the west coast. All three are good schools for their own reasons and your in California so how could you complain!

anvi: Emails for both rejected and accepted students? I haven't heard anything.

hey ohmygosh, can you forward me that email about Cornell/Ithaca?