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Danlazop

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I m really curious on how easy this one might be...



Sep 9, 17 3:02 pm  · 
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mies' crystal skyscraper... uhh... fredrickstrasse?

Sep 9, 17 3:12 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Correct!

Sep 9, 17 3:23 pm  · 
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Danlazop


ahead of the curve as always...

Sep 9, 17 3:24 pm  · 
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another easy one?

Sep 9, 17 3:47 pm  · 
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Katsura Imperial Villa, Kobori Enshu, 17th century.

Sep 10, 17 7:45 pm  · 
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yep!

Sep 10, 17 11:43 pm  · 
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I thought it was a FLW but it turns out it was his inspiration :)

Sep 11, 17 1:29 am  · 
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Katsura:


Sep 10, 17 7:59 pm  · 
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Sep 11, 17 8:09 am  · 
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Nakagin Capsule Tower by Kisho Kurokawa, 1972 Tokyo

Sep 11, 17 8:33 am  · 
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Yes!

Sep 11, 17 10:52 am  · 
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randomised, please claim your prize!

Sep 11, 17 5:10 pm  · 
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randomised

Ah yes, the prize, totally forgot. Here it is:


Sep 12, 17 3:32 am  · 
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Villa Vals, by SeARCH + CMA, 2009


http://www.archdaily.com/43187...

Sep 12, 17 8:12 am  · 
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randomised

Too easy

Sep 12, 17 9:04 am  · 
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randomised

? Damn. Well good for them I suppose. Had all kinds of hints with Zumthor and Morphosis in mind...ah well. I guess you're Dutch too ;)

Sep 12, 17 9:06 am  · 
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No, but I'm obsessed with Zumthor.

Sep 12, 17 10:43 am  · 
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Sep 12, 17 12:24 pm  · 
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This one might be too obscure; first hint: this building and the Breuer library I posted have something fundamental in common.

Sep 12, 17 8:54 pm  · 
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Both in Atlanta? Both from 1980?

Sep 13, 17 3:09 am  · 
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Both in Atlanta. This building is almost a decade and a half older. However, come to think of it, they do have other traits that are similar.

Sep 13, 17 8:14 am  · 
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Found it! Hyatt Regency Atlanta 1967 by John Portman. That bloody atrium/piazza, very confusing so good pick ;-)

Sep 13, 17 1:58 pm  · 
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randomised

If you have some nice pics or drawings, please share

Sep 13, 17 2:06 pm  · 
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Here you go:


Sep 16, 17 7:40 pm  · 
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Sep 13, 17 2:08 pm  · 
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is it Torre Velasca in Milan? (1950s, BBPR )

Sep 13, 17 2:09 pm  · 
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where'd you find a plan w/ the outriggers?

Sep 13, 17 2:13 pm  · 
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if i'm right, someone else can post. Free!

Sep 13, 17 2:26 pm  · 
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randomised

Correct! I just googled for that plan and took it from Pinterest.

"Velasca Tower (Milan, 1958). Technology VS Historicism


Pic:

Structure:

Plans:

source: http://archeyes.com/velasca-to...

Sep 13, 17 3:46 pm  · 
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threadkilla

one of my favourite towers :) was wonderiing how long it will take to show up here, given the frequency of Italian projects in this thread!

Sep 13, 17 4:31 pm  · 
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Sep 13, 17 7:09 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Are those rooms or beam projections? Is it another Japanese temple?

Sep 13, 17 8:19 pm  · 
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The small rectangles around the perimeter edges of the large rectangles should probably be dashed lines.

Sep 13, 17 8:23 pm  · 
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Not a Japanese temple, but right hemisphere!

Sep 13, 17 8:25 pm  · 
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correct! Fatehpur Sikri is a town in the Agra District of Uttar Pradesh, India. The city was founded in 1569 by the Mughal Emperor Akbar, and served as the capital of the Mughal Empire from 1571 to 1585, when it was abandoned.

Sep 14, 17 12:06 pm  · 
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Is it in China? That dashed perimeter, roof lights perhaps?, reminds me of Pei Cobb's Suzhou museum but it isn't...


Sep 14, 17 10:38 am  · 
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Like the Suzhou museum, this belongs to a tradition of courtyard buildings. Another hint: very little of this plan could be called interior.

Sep 14, 17 10:58 am  · 
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Fatehpur Sikri is a town in the Agra District of Uttar PradeshIndia. The city was founded in 1569 by the Mughal Emperor Akbar, and served as the capital of the Mughal Empire from 1571 to 1585, when it was abandoned. 


Sep 14, 17 12:15 pm  · 
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Danlazop

okay, maybe we could do another baby-Rem:






Sep 16, 17 2:32 pm  · 
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First thought it was a Kees Christiaanse - KCAP ( couple of towers on a plinth of housing/offices but then realised the plinth wasn't high enough for anything but parking). It was a Xaveer De Geyter! 

XDGA - Chassé Park Apartments 1996-2001 Breda, NL

(I love how Xaveer used his own initial (X) for the structure)

source: http://xdga.be/#chasse-park-ap...

Sep 19, 17 8:12 am  · 
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Right next to Herman Hertzberger's Chassé Theater by the way  (see first pic up)


Sep 19, 17 8:56 am  · 
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Some student work about XDGA's project: https://issuu.com/sannedevries37/docs/graphical_analysis2

Sep 19, 17 9:14 am  · 
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N-n-n-ext!



Sep 19, 17 10:57 am  · 
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JLC-1

looks like a cute house, but what is that dining table doing outside ?

Sep 19, 17 11:00 am  · 
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I guess it's to have dinner :)

Here's an older, original, less clear plan without dining table, maybe that helps!:


Sep 19, 17 1:47 pm  · 
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JLC-1

In the original sections they had a window well and it became that concrete tube on the side of the entry steps; I've always like these guys, but I thought they were more germanic with the process, it's nice to see they have that freedom.

Sep 19, 17 1:57 pm  · 
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It's weird it was left out in the cad plan, don't know why because it's such a key feature. So my guess is you know the plan and architect(s) very well.

Sep 21, 17 1:39 am  · 
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a-f

It's the Blue House from Herzog & De Meuron. That sunken living room with freestanding fireplace looked familiar.

Sep 21, 17 3:20 am  · 
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a-f

Blue

Sep 21, 17 3:36 am  · 
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a-f

Living room


Sep 21, 17 3:44 am  · 
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Correct! Here a nice article on the Blaues Haus: http://socks-studio.com/2016/10/21/the-blue-house-by-herzog-de-meuron-1979-80-and-an-interview-by-stanislaus-von-moos/

Sep 21, 17 4:00 am  · 
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a-f

Here, another villa.


Sep 21, 17 3:44 am  · 
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randomised

I knew that bloody oval looked familiair, thanks!

Sep 21, 17 11:22 am  · 
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a-f

Yes, that's right, also known as Villa Snellman.

Sep 21, 17 11:41 am  · 
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Danlazop

wow, that's a deceiving looking building. The plan is almost contemporary in design, but you would never guess by looking at its exterior. A true trojan horse.

Sep 21, 17 4:24 pm  · 
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Sep 26, 17 4:17 am  · 
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randomised

Quondam, where would you have liked to have gone to school?

Sep 26, 17 1:58 pm  · 
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randomised

Also, is that because of the building or the curriculum?

Sep 26, 17 1:59 pm  · 
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JLC-1

​that is not built, it's a final school project for the Zurich school of architecture by a Spaniard.

Sep 26, 17 2:32 pm  · 
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JLC-1

it took me a while to find it, but Vitores post is clear - (proyecto final de carrera 2009) nice building.

Sep 26, 17 3:16 pm  · 
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That was a difficult one, so you would have wanted to study in Zürich, not a bad choice. The ETH also offers free online courses, ETHx via EdX might be something there.

Sep 27, 17 2:19 am  · 
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JLC-1

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Sep 26, 17 3:22 pm  · 
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a-f

Palazzo della Civiltà Italiana - Giovanni Guerrini, Ernesto Bruno La Padula and Mario Romano

Sep 26, 17 3:30 pm  · 
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JLC-1

was it too easy?

Sep 26, 17 3:31 pm  · 
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a-f

A bit, but a very characteristic plan of a style that hasn't been covered before!

(Fellini and Ekberg)

Sep 26, 17 3:36 pm  · 
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a-f

Speaking of easy...


Sep 26, 17 3:41 pm  · 
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a-f

Yes, that didn't take too long.

Sep 26, 17 4:07 pm  · 
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a-f

An easy one for one of the regulars here:

Sep 26, 17 4:59 pm  · 
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randomised

So weird to see how Graves work developed from this to filling the shelves of Target.

Sep 28, 17 8:23 am  · 
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randomised

,

Sep 28, 17 8:47 am  · 
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randomised

Next:

Sep 28, 17 9:50 am  · 
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St. Benedictusberg Abbey, Vaals, Dom Hans van der Laan.

Sep 28, 17 9:11 pm  · 
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randomised

Yep correct!

Sep 29, 17 12:08 am  · 
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link: http://socks-studio.com/2014/0...

Sep 29, 17 12:29 am  · 
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Can someone please post a plan for me.

Sep 29, 17 8:14 am  · 
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randomised

Sure!

Sep 29, 17 9:22 am  · 
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I like that this is basically the opposite of the last plan you posted!

Sep 29, 17 1:53 pm  · 
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randomised

Me too!

Oct 3, 17 4:53 am  · 
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Here it is:








Sep 29, 17 9:22 am  · 
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JLC-1

An hommage to Hef! now post the second story plan.

Sep 29, 17 10:03 am  · 
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randomised

2nd storey


Sep 29, 17 12:56 pm  · 
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and more


Sep 29, 17 1:16 pm  · 
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and final

Sep 29, 17 1:21 pm  · 
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So I guess quondam, you're up!

Sep 29, 17 1:22 pm  · 
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randomised

That hot dog hint could also mean Frankfurt(er)...

Oct 3, 17 4:51 am  · 
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Doing google searches on mobile is sooo annoying

Oct 3, 17 6:27 am  · 
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Without knowing or ever having seen the project, besides the plan posted here. It's OMA's submission for the new Campus for the Frankfurt School of Finance & Management in 2013:

https://www.competitionline.co...

Found it just in time to edit my comment :)

http://afasiaarq.blogspot.nl/2...


Oct 3, 17 3:05 pm  · 
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randomised

Interesting project, where'd you find that one? Never seen it before myself.

Oct 4, 17 4:18 am  · 
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threadkilla

The concrete model is pretty awesome

Oct 4, 17 1:52 pm  · 
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Next one (I'll be travelling so might take a while to check in):


Oct 4, 17 1:47 am  · 
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JLC-1

goetheanum?

Oct 4, 17 9:52 am  · 
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threadkilla

Goetheanum has more of a figure-8, Melnikov-house-type plan

Oct 4, 17 12:33 pm  · 
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threadkilla

My first instinct (based on the dome) was that this might be Otto Wagner's Steinhof Kirche. But that's definitely not it

Oct 4, 17 12:54 pm  · 
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JLC-1

I've never seen floor plans for either, and the goetheanum has that weird shaped shell, my bad.

Oct 4, 17 12:56 pm  · 
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threadkilla

so it's a byzantine/classical church plan annotated in German with Hector Guimard-esque lettering... I'm giving up looking for now, but this is an interesting one for sure

Oct 4, 17 1:51 pm  · 
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threadkilla

Max Berg, Centennial Hall (Jahrhunderthalle aka Hala Stulecia) 1911-1913 in Wroclaw (formerly Breslau), Poland

once I gave up thinking of this as a church because of the gigantic
scale, I just looked around for the largest concrete dome of the period I thought this is from

Oct 4, 17 6:17 pm  · 
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threadkilla

A Cathedral for Democracy

"Built to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the four-day Battle of Leipzig in 1813.In this “Battle of Nations,” as it is also known, coalition forces from Austria, Germany, Russia, and Sweden won a decisive victory over Napoleon Bonaparte and his occupying armies.Designed by German architect Max Berg (1870–1947), Centennial Hall is equal in scale to the military event it memorializes."

http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/ke... (with a neat construction sequence video)

https://en.wikiarquitectura.co...

apparently the construction workers did not want to pull the formwork after the concrete has been placed, for lack of trust in the 'new' material, until the architect started doing so with a few volunteers...


Oct 4, 17 6:33 pm  · 
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randomised

Well done, great research!

Oct 5, 17 4:20 am  · 
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threadkilla

next:


Oct 4, 17 7:25 pm  · 
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threadkilla

hint: this architect's curvaceous work has already been featured in this thread

Oct 4, 17 7:28 pm  · 
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JLC-1

google image search returned "auto parts", ha!

Oct 5, 17 10:26 am  · 
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threadkilla

Love it! Auto parts is actually a valid secondary hint that might help one find the architect earlier in this thread. Third hint: this is a church plan.

Oct 5, 17 10:38 am  · 
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Reverse image search not allowed!

Oct 6, 17 12:04 am  · 
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threadkilla

This building is in Vienna

Oct 7, 17 1:41 am  · 
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a-f

I don't know, but while googling I came across this gem:


Oct 13, 17 10:09 am  · 
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Auferstehung Christi, Karl Schwanzer


Oct 14, 17 7:15 pm  · 
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threadkilla

That's it!

Oct 15, 17 12:36 am  · 
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threadkilla

By the way, the plan posted by a-f is for the Kirche Zur Heiligsten Dreifaltigkeit (Church of the Most Holy Trinity) by Fritz Wotruba, built around the same time (mid-70s) as Schwanzer's Auferstehung Christi (Church of the Ressurrection of Christ). Colloquially known as the Wotruba Church, it was notably erected on the former site of Nazi barracks.

Oct 18, 17 2:19 pm  · 
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Here's an easy one:


Oct 14, 17 7:24 pm  · 
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Yes!

Oct 15, 17 6:49 pm  · 
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Wilma Buttfit

Bump. I'm stumped. Somebody has to know it. 

Oct 17, 17 10:44 pm  · 
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threadkilla

Is it the De La Garza Career Centre? I've seen that plan drawing before, but couldn't remember where or who it was by...

Oct 18, 17 12:05 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Argonne National Laboratory? This picture is the only one i coud find on google and is from a Dan Graham model of the building. Pretty sweet.

Oct 19, 17 5:36 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Ok, my turn. Wasn't really familiar with this project till a few years, wondering how well known it is:






Oct 20, 17 7:58 am  · 
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My first thought was Castelvecchio, but no, that's not it. Might be a similar intervention in a medieval ruin?

Oct 20, 17 10:14 am  · 
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Wilma Buttfit

I thought Castelvecchio as well. It's not?

Oct 20, 17 10:30 am  · 
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Danlazop

No. Intervention in medieval ruins yes, but this is on Northern Europe.

Oct 20, 17 10:42 am  · 
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Danlazop

Bingo!

Oct 20, 17 3:20 pm  · 
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Oct 27, 17 12:18 am  · 
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Danlazop

Gordon Bunshaft's Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library.

Oct 27, 17 10:44 am  · 
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Yes! Please claim your prize!

Oct 27, 17 12:46 pm  · 
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Danlazop

some images:


Oct 27, 17 10:49 am  · 
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Danlazop

Ok, here we go:


Oct 27, 17 2:38 pm  · 
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Oyster bar gives it away: Downtown Athletic Club

Oct 27, 17 2:58 pm  · 
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threadkilla

https://youtu.be/gzsJsbGLTUY this has re-defined how I read that chapter of Delirious New York

Oct 28, 17 12:36 am  · 
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Has this one been posted? 

Oct 27, 17 3:04 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Always loved that drawing, how much of the master plan was actually built?

Oct 27, 17 3:42 pm  · 
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Enough of it ;)

Oct 27, 17 3:59 pm  · 
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threadkilla

I've been fascinated with this one ever since seeing a pretty damn good model of it on the wall in the halls of the first architecture school I went to, with a grade of "C" prominently displayed beside the model. Mat building extraordinaire.

google maps link to the real thing

Oct 28, 17 12:41 am  · 
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threadkilla

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Oct 28, 17 1:02 am  · 
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randomised

Love this plan. Diamond House B, 1963-67, John Hejduk

Oct 28, 17 6:40 am  · 
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randomised

More here on his Diamond Projects:

Oct 28, 17 6:41 am  · 
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https://journal.eahn.org/articles/10.5334/ah.cb/

Oct 28, 17 6:41 am  · 
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threadkilla

It's Diamond Museum C, but let's allow it :) seemed an appropriate counterpoint to the Agadir project

http://socks-studio.com/2016/0...

Oct 28, 17 6:45 am  · 
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randomised

Darn it, in the article I found and which is referenced by socks studio it's captioned House B. I knew it was Hejduk's Diamond Project but had to google for the specifics. Very disappointed :(

Oct 28, 17 9:30 am  · 
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threadkilla

randimised, apparently people find it hard to keep up with Hejduk's nomenclature, but since you clearly knew what the drawing was you should post the next one :)

Oct 28, 17 11:50 am  · 
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threadkilla

quondam, I recall discovering your website (this was before I signed up for this forum) when I was researching Hejduk in the latter half of grad school. Admittedly I am still baffled by your archive (and the incomprehensibly jaggy linework), but at the time (2010) it was the most comprehensive collection of evolutionary links between Corb's and Hejduk's projects. I don't know that I always "buy" your theories, or appreciate your own spin offs, but reading through all of that material you've gathered has at one time shaped a fair deal of my thinking. I don't imagine you would care, but my project ended up somewhere between the Diamond Museum and Mies' Neue Nationalgallerie, with a requisite dose of Jonathan Lasker (as per the instructor's requirements) - I really ought to revisit it when I find some time to do so...

Oct 28, 17 11:59 am  · 
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threadkilla

Not instant, but doable if you can open the cad files in almost any current cad software, or even illustrator, fix the lineweights, and export as .pdfs or high res .png files... You can probably get an intern to blast through it in a summer, or somebody to write a script to do it... Info is great, but increasingly hard to look at these days. Anyways, that was my way of saying thanks :) looking forward to the next plan!

Oct 28, 17 1:35 pm  · 
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threadkilla

Also, if you can provide any further disambiguation between the Diamond projects beyond this quote from the socks-studio website, that would be great!

Whereas the three projects are, according to the architect, explorations of the formal implications of the “diamond canvases of Mondrian for architects of today”, each one focus on the implications of the diamond configuration via different elements such as columns (House A), planes (House B) and biomorphic shapes (Museum C).

Oct 28, 17 1:41 pm  · 
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randomised

Okay will post next, difficult to live up to this after this lecture ;)





Oct 28, 17 2:03 pm  · 
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Danlazop

Felix Nussbaum Haus by Daniel Libeskind.

Oct 28, 17 7:32 pm  · 
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Danlazop

pics:





I'm not a fan of Libeskind but I did like some of his early projects like this and the Berlin Jewish Museum. There was something punk about them that got lost when he became corporate.



Oct 28, 17 7:38 pm  · 
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randomised

Same here, really liked his early work when I was a student. Was curious to find out if the Nussbaum Haus was too easy or too obscure.

Oct 29, 17 12:48 am  · 
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Danlazop

Might be obscure. I got the chance to see an exhibition of his models for this and some of his early projects at the beginning of the 2000's. They were quite beautiful and using unconventional materials for the time, like newspaper and other sort of re-used things. Very deconstructivist. So that project stuck with me.

Oct 29, 17 10:04 am  · 
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randomised

Only ever saw pictures of those models, lucky you.

Oct 29, 17 11:55 am  · 
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Danlazop

here we go. This architects are very trendy right now, specially by being somehow introduced into the pop culture.




Oct 29, 17 10:09 am  · 
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randomised

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Nov 1, 17 2:00 am  · 
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randomised

Bumping it right to the top of the forum page!

Nov 1, 17 2:02 am  · 
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Danlazop

hints: in contrast to a previous post, this one is a Swiss project by non Swiss architects.



Nov 1, 17 7:34 am  · 
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Bündner Kunstmuseum Extension by Barozzi Veiga

https://www.dezeen.com/2016/08...

Nov 1, 17 8:29 am  · 
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Danlazop

Correct!

Nov 1, 17 10:09 am  · 
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Nov 1, 17 12:17 pm  · 
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JLC-1

vitra fire station zha.

Nov 1, 17 12:44 pm  · 
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Yes!

Nov 1, 17 3:49 pm  · 
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