My name is Frenz. I am an individual who has a deep passion for the hospitality industry, particularly resort hotels and casinos, and I am searching for an aspiring architect who shares that passion. I would like to talk to you about your chosen field as it relates to the hospitality industry, as well as whatever else is on your mind. Hopefully in the process we can learn from one another and, if we’re lucky, perhaps even strike up a friendship. If this interests you, please contact me at [email protected] If you find this maybe a little odd, please contact me anyway and allow me an opportunity to speak in greater detail about myself and my motives.
Thank you for your time. I look forward to your response.
I do wonder what you imagine my "suspicious" motives are, but fair enough. I have nothing to hide.
I am 24 years old and, as I said, I love the hospitality industry more than anything in the world. I plan on one day building and owning one or many resort hotels. So I spend my days reading literature about every facet of the business, visiting and walking through hotels for hours, and talking about it to anyone who will entertain my my youthful enthusiasm for even a moment.
As I see it, in order to master my chosen path, there are many other disciplines in which I must at least have a firm foundation. This is why I posted the same exact message in hotelier, design, and "green" (I hate that term...so gimmicky) forums. I plan on continuing my formal education in these fields, but in the meantime I figure why not learn from others with the same, but different, passion? Additionally, I must admit, I would like to bounce some ideas off you as well.
I may seem a tad overzealous. And perhaps I am. But make no mistake about it, I am very well educated and very grounded. My only wish is to see the world as you see it. You've chosen to be an architect for a reason. Hopefully that reason has little to do with money and much to do with how your brain, heart, and gut operate. I want to understand that. I want to learn from you. I want to teach you, as well. Anyone who cannot see how someone other than an architect could teach them, please don't bother responding.
Hopefully this will suffice. Thank you so much for your responses.
Frenz, the sense of suspicion you detect is because people are suspicious.
In the architecture world (and other fields, too, I suspect) young and "aspiring" professionals are sometimes solicited to do work for free --often under the rubric "learning experience." Seasoned professionals are not asked to participate because the party hoping for free labor knows that an experienced practitioner is wise to this ploy.
That said, I'm not impugning your motives here. I'll assume that your fully above-board in your query. But the "aspiring" adjective always raises red flags for people.
The line "Hopefully that reason has little to do with money and much to do with how your brain, heart, and gut operate. I want to understand that. I want to learn from you." also adds to the suspicion citizen mentions.
citizen's post is right on : we *are* a little suspicious. I think you've done a pretty good job explaining yourself, but...
...it's not clear from your initial post if you're looking for someone to do free design work, or just to chat about experiences in the world of casino and resort design/management/enjoyment. I can imagine, as citizen says, a seasoned designer being able to share hard knock experiences - war stories, in other words - with you as a sort of mentorship thing, and enjoying it. I, as one who has not ever designed a resort, could talk about Vegas, resorts, and boutique experiences I've loved and why. But the minute someone wants design ideas, we do get leery, because that's what we sell: my ideas are my income, so giving them out for free is not an option.
There's no reason a discussion of resorts etc. couldn't happen here online, on this thread. (I could carry on about Vegas for pages, though it's been 7 years since I was last there and I'm sure it's very different - that's part of what makes it what it is.) But it's unclear from your posts whether you are looking for discussion or soliciting work.
Your posts are most enlightening. Originally my post did say "architects or aspiring architects" but I changed it. Why? I'm not sure. I suppose I felt as if aspiring young professionals were the only ones who would entertain the idea. I apologize for pre-judging. Liberty Bell, you are so right. There is nothing I would appreciate more than the mentorship that you speak of. I'm angry at myself that I limited this the way I did. It seems only fitting that it has reflected badly upon me.
For anyone still interested in having a dialogue, please contact me at [email protected] For everyone else who maybe has less time, or simply wishes to only talk on boards, I pose this question:
I have my opinion, but to you which are the structures of integrity in Las Vegas, and which are architectural monstrosities? Do facades like that of Caesars Palace or New York New York play a role in this judgement? Does the "back of the house" play a role?
Thank you again to everyone. I have already learned so much.
Frenz, have you read Learning From Las Vegas by Venturi, Rauch, and Scott Brown? If not, do so. Even at three decades old, its call to re-think that city's glitz and "monstrosities" on their own terms, rather than only as aberrations in the context of mainstream architectural aesthetics, is enlightening.
I bought it and started reading it, but as hard as it is for me to admit, it was extremely difficult to follow. It seemed like it was written in a different language. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it another go.
Frenz: I think you might have a future as a hotel/casino consultant (if there is such a thing). You could help a variety of companies plan for the future with your knowledge of trends (benchmarking), relative space requirements and their relationship to cost (financial modeling), and functional requirements (programming).
Pursue what you're passionate about until it no longer interests you!
Thank you for the advice/compliment JW. I'm currently traveling in Lima, Peru. Decided to come here because...well...I'm not sure exactly why I came here. A combination of things, I suppose. But I've already fallen into a bit of consulting work. I enjoy it immensely. But alas, I'm not sure I will ever be truly happy until I create from start to finish. Only time will tell ;-)
Don't get too carried away looking at Vegas. Looking at Vegas is looking back to the past. Anything built there up to this point would have been financed and planned before the economic meltdown. The hospitality industry is changing and it's those who figure out where it's going and get there first who will win out.
Learning Opportunity
Hello everyone,
My name is Frenz. I am an individual who has a deep passion for the hospitality industry, particularly resort hotels and casinos, and I am searching for an aspiring architect who shares that passion. I would like to talk to you about your chosen field as it relates to the hospitality industry, as well as whatever else is on your mind. Hopefully in the process we can learn from one another and, if we’re lucky, perhaps even strike up a friendship. If this interests you, please contact me at [email protected] If you find this maybe a little odd, please contact me anyway and allow me an opportunity to speak in greater detail about myself and my motives.
Thank you for your time. I look forward to your response.
frenz...how many of us have them? let's be frenz...
Let's!!! This is really my name, if you were trying to poke fun.
i don't have a passion for either (hotels or casinos), but this thread has officially made my day today.
frenz...do "speak in greater detail about myself and my motives", or this all does sound a bit suspicious!!!
I do wonder what you imagine my "suspicious" motives are, but fair enough. I have nothing to hide.
I am 24 years old and, as I said, I love the hospitality industry more than anything in the world. I plan on one day building and owning one or many resort hotels. So I spend my days reading literature about every facet of the business, visiting and walking through hotels for hours, and talking about it to anyone who will entertain my my youthful enthusiasm for even a moment.
As I see it, in order to master my chosen path, there are many other disciplines in which I must at least have a firm foundation. This is why I posted the same exact message in hotelier, design, and "green" (I hate that term...so gimmicky) forums. I plan on continuing my formal education in these fields, but in the meantime I figure why not learn from others with the same, but different, passion? Additionally, I must admit, I would like to bounce some ideas off you as well.
I may seem a tad overzealous. And perhaps I am. But make no mistake about it, I am very well educated and very grounded. My only wish is to see the world as you see it. You've chosen to be an architect for a reason. Hopefully that reason has little to do with money and much to do with how your brain, heart, and gut operate. I want to understand that. I want to learn from you. I want to teach you, as well. Anyone who cannot see how someone other than an architect could teach them, please don't bother responding.
Hopefully this will suffice. Thank you so much for your responses.
Fair enough ... but, why does it need to be an "aspiring architect" ?
Why not an "I'm already an Architect"?
Frenz, the sense of suspicion you detect is because people are suspicious.
In the architecture world (and other fields, too, I suspect) young and "aspiring" professionals are sometimes solicited to do work for free --often under the rubric "learning experience." Seasoned professionals are not asked to participate because the party hoping for free labor knows that an experienced practitioner is wise to this ploy.
That said, I'm not impugning your motives here. I'll assume that your fully above-board in your query. But the "aspiring" adjective always raises red flags for people.
The line "Hopefully that reason has little to do with money and much to do with how your brain, heart, and gut operate. I want to understand that. I want to learn from you." also adds to the suspicion citizen mentions.
citizen's post is right on : we *are* a little suspicious. I think you've done a pretty good job explaining yourself, but...
...it's not clear from your initial post if you're looking for someone to do free design work, or just to chat about experiences in the world of casino and resort design/management/enjoyment. I can imagine, as citizen says, a seasoned designer being able to share hard knock experiences - war stories, in other words - with you as a sort of mentorship thing, and enjoying it. I, as one who has not ever designed a resort, could talk about Vegas, resorts, and boutique experiences I've loved and why. But the minute someone wants design ideas, we do get leery, because that's what we sell: my ideas are my income, so giving them out for free is not an option.
There's no reason a discussion of resorts etc. couldn't happen here online, on this thread. (I could carry on about Vegas for pages, though it's been 7 years since I was last there and I'm sure it's very different - that's part of what makes it what it is.) But it's unclear from your posts whether you are looking for discussion or soliciting work.
nice post LB for 9999...
Your posts are most enlightening. Originally my post did say "architects or aspiring architects" but I changed it. Why? I'm not sure. I suppose I felt as if aspiring young professionals were the only ones who would entertain the idea. I apologize for pre-judging. Liberty Bell, you are so right. There is nothing I would appreciate more than the mentorship that you speak of. I'm angry at myself that I limited this the way I did. It seems only fitting that it has reflected badly upon me.
For anyone still interested in having a dialogue, please contact me at [email protected] For everyone else who maybe has less time, or simply wishes to only talk on boards, I pose this question:
I have my opinion, but to you which are the structures of integrity in Las Vegas, and which are architectural monstrosities? Do facades like that of Caesars Palace or New York New York play a role in this judgement? Does the "back of the house" play a role?
Thank you again to everyone. I have already learned so much.
Frenz, have you read Learning From Las Vegas by Venturi, Rauch, and Scott Brown? If not, do so. Even at three decades old, its call to re-think that city's glitz and "monstrosities" on their own terms, rather than only as aberrations in the context of mainstream architectural aesthetics, is enlightening.
I bought it and started reading it, but as hard as it is for me to admit, it was extremely difficult to follow. It seemed like it was written in a different language. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it another go.
Frenz: I think you might have a future as a hotel/casino consultant (if there is such a thing). You could help a variety of companies plan for the future with your knowledge of trends (benchmarking), relative space requirements and their relationship to cost (financial modeling), and functional requirements (programming).
Pursue what you're passionate about until it no longer interests you!
Thank you for the advice/compliment JW. I'm currently traveling in Lima, Peru. Decided to come here because...well...I'm not sure exactly why I came here. A combination of things, I suppose. But I've already fallen into a bit of consulting work. I enjoy it immensely. But alas, I'm not sure I will ever be truly happy until I create from start to finish. Only time will tell ;-)
Don't get too carried away looking at Vegas. Looking at Vegas is looking back to the past. Anything built there up to this point would have been financed and planned before the economic meltdown. The hospitality industry is changing and it's those who figure out where it's going and get there first who will win out.
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