Per, I opened my mind, I waited to see if you would open yours. you ask for 3 . . . three suggestions? Three suggestions to make it better?
1.) Prove this works
2.) Make it aesthetically pleasing to at least 30% or humanity
3.) Make it so that you don't need 10' walls for everything
it is not valid to just present this and say that everyone else is wrong. you have to sell this to us. to say that it is not your to sell when you claim to invent it is not valid. it is a weak escape. Thomas Edison didn't invent the idea of the light bulb and then expected people to crete it without him . . . ok, that is a horrible conjecture . . . You created this? Prove it. Don't ask for designers to prove it, they obviously don't buy it.
eisof it is 3 questions that I can ansver when I do you will know it is quite natural ansvers ,prove it work.
Well there are several resons ,the first is that realy it shuld not be needed as what you see is in itself prove being made in a 3D inviroment. If it don't work in that it don't work but it do. This been proved so many times everywhere where a computer are involved in a design process ,the computer work and what it show on the screen will work . Now I talk about 3D.
2.) Make it aesthetically pleasing to at least 30% or humanity"
Now that is not my job, --- I make the tools and can point to a few options with a few graphics I am not an architect I am designer boatsbuilder and application develober all registrated ,but I am no Superman. I can not first learn several proud tradisional skills ,master tradisional boatsbuilding ,then become a boats designer and start develobing and testing other methods as the one you know, ontop pay all expenses out of my own pocket , and then round 10 years ago when I first simply know, that there must be another way to make those damned ribs not move around in the air, -- then take the risk and just start a 3D-H by hand crafts ---- well today I knew it would have worked, but at that time the computer programs I made, was about develobing surfaces and designing boats from another combine of new methods and tradisional ones, ---this simply asked more develobment and it was not the practic develobment it needed .
At the same time my ecperience tell it work why spend my bread when anyone shuld know this just from graphics --- they already ake walkarounds and that "work" why discriminate a new method with arguments that don't hold.
) Make it so that you don't need 10' walls for everything
But it don't --- I only show the concept, this can be in micro size it can be huge , sheet thickness or material thickness must be calculated, but I am no engineer I am a designer, just a guy who is good getting bright idears ,many around this contry know that.if you want someone good finding smart solutions ask a boatsbuilder ,he is carpenter and metalworker, must be able to process plastic do a set of plans build a mashin whatever, even make a revolution in architecture.
But I tell you one thing for sure, computers work.
The project had a lot of focus , it seem quite an exiting project that go new way's so maby you are right, but there are other projects that maby even could combine --- I think about the Spacelift project that first was described in sci-fic but based on real calculations about where in case you could produce a wire that could hold it's own weight ,could be placed in space reaching into the atmosphere and out in space, --- now nanno tubes and structures like freedomship could very well some day combine in placing the ground platform at sea, realy I find such spaceport project quite interesting and proberly a better oppotunity for so huge structures.
No Im'e proberly stuck in the 70' and 80' even in architecture stuck in Van Rhoe architecture, you proberly shuld be glad I am just a designer who make the tools, as if the drive was designing houses I would drive you crazy with Van Rhow inspiredshining designs . Maby you think 3D-H is best for organic forms no, just wait untill someone find out the real pover of beauty, even 70' trend will be splendid, --- so no I still belive computers work and they shuld be more efficient than just staying with the old touble.
Beta listen you don't go buy a highrise at the home depo you buy a hammer or a cabinet scraper , surely this could produce an instant cabin or if any of you lazy designers would care, an enginous piece of furniture ,you shuld know -- please when you say "I don't want to see" you allready reconised , you allready know. It is not my foult if you can't understand if the reson is that you would not be capable of designing that chair or that piece of furniture that would profit from a relevant method of manufactoring, --- remember I said "Iam just the designer the one who develobed this method" , now you expect that to be something you can buy in a box ; a method an innovative building method, -- that's like expecting the highrise grow by you saying hokus pokus.
I just tell that if a building collapsed becaurse the hangers and girders gave away ,then part of the right ansver, could be to build without hangers and girders simply realise the vision ,trust the new jobs and new architecture. My personal view is that new architecture must carry the real stuff from the inside out , not be a lookalike outside in , --- and I find it relevant if something that expres itself as the new architecture have a solid framework that also are simple and equaly distribuate the forces.
------ Now if I was sabotaging anything it is building nothing , my attitude is a build around as then you leave the emty volumes of the towers as parks and this do not mean a smaller rebuild .
The material are first thought as plain steel sheet. Today's digital manufactoring cut this directly from the 3D drawings when processed to this framework, but if you want to develob green materials you are welcome as the method will also produce the cabin or small house from one material instead of like how you see floors and walls today are 20 different strait profiles and special fittings.
A tornado btw. carry much more destructive pover than any manmade weapon, and realising that this structure equaly distribuate the firces mean, that hube lumps can be torn away still the rest will still stand. But this is not the issue of rebuilding, what must be rebuild must enforce a new architecture. If you are interested in the method I can tell I develobed it for the past 12 years and openly published it and also contribuated in public architect contests. This is not a thing an engineer just steal and show to an architect ,as when the architect use the method and he don't add the line of credit ,that this fantastic method was develobed by me, a lot of trouble is in the horison. While when I published and offered the architectural community this fantastic new option, any architect would know, that if you "borrow" a splendid new method that easily can change the intire architecture, --- then you leave atleast a line of credit, saying that this method was develobed by the danish architect Per Corell.(I thought you were a boatbuilder but that's my lack of sufficient info, I suppose...pardon me for not reading every post)
So when you the coming years will see splendid new buildings with a fantastic aproach of structure and beauty, remember that the only one who claimed his right about this, is me --- there allready been several attemts using the method and I contacted the architects that all seem to been informed by the great engineering firm Aarup, --- let me know when the lawsuit on Siza is gonna drop
This could turn out the first great scandal for some famous architects, but it don't nee to, as all I ask is that line of credit.
Still I am glad you see this as being also a contribution to the only right thing to do Rebuild the towers.
Hi
Thank's for the nice words, now you fancy graphics lovers know that I only display the top of the iceberg , --- I can't say more but huge things is happening untill I can say what, it will be a month ,then and please don't try dig deeper to see if I tell I simply can not, and it would be a wrong ,but things are going the honeycomb direction , --- one thing and the only thing I can tell, is that you will be surprised.
This is going to be one hell of an agonizing month-long drumroll.
I think I know what the huge thing is. Paul wants to issue a special edition Per Corell Archinect T-shirt. I, for one, want to wear the "hey all you fancy graphics lovers" and I am not being sarcastic.
Hi
Sorry I shuld not have said it ,but even _that would be great there are greater issues, --- please forget I said this, as exchouse I promise a full coverage when time come but it simple have to wait.
of course, from the sound of it... if Archinect did a Fancy Graphics Lovers T shirt without giving some modest credit to Per, it might endure the legal wrath and public lynching at the hands of the designer genius. Therefore, the Tshirt, if it were to be produced, would have to read "hey all you fancy graphics lovers - Per Corell, Danish Architect."
If anyone actually wanted to use this, you can fire up formZ and use the "contours" tool twice on an object. Do it once, unghost the original object, change the reference plane, and do it again. There you go. I then used the 3D object modifier to add thickness to the planes. Took about 2.3 minutes.
Did you work with formZ to add this functionality to their program? The contours tool has been around for a while, so you may want to check into that.
You proberly could do so wisof --- but please tell me, would you be doing so, if Per Corell havn't promoted the much greater 3D-H attitude on the web for a decade ?
Now please tell me one thing ; how big a difference will it be, compared two things; first to have seen an interesting new method on the web and then finding a way to copy that -- compared the situation where you acturly develob such thing.
I try again ; don't you think there are a world apart in attitude , just copying a thing you seen in a descriotive graphic one that is made to explain the method. compared being the guy who can not look at someons work to just copy it ?
Isn't it then wierd to claim that the guy that from nothing ,develobed the most fantastic method shuld recive the credit, compared the guy for whom the greatest problem is not an innovative one but deal with finding an exchouse to rob the honest guy who seriously develobed the thing.
Well If I havn't published and promoted this, then you would never have got the idea, you see there are a great difference develobing the new fantastic tools, compared finding a way to copy something.
These two things are not the same --- for some "we did not know" is an easy exchouse, then isn't it good that I can document this and isn't it bad that I must vaste my time protecting the basic rights of an artist, a develober, an innovator, isn't it bad that instead of further develobing I must deal with bad exchouses for stealing.
--------- I just wrote someone saying ; You know what you are doing ,you do that fully aware that you are stealing the bread from some nice guy's mouth ,now what will be the next after "let's go rob him", wouldn't it be "let's go rob him and then kill him" , well I ask as you know who the intelectural rights belong and that this concept are much greater than just architecture, that it will influence design and make a revolution in architecture ---- and still you don't know what is mine or what is yours, please let me help you ; do this realy belong to you, did you develob it ? If not you know it is not yours.
Gee this is things I told my children, so they wouldn't get a criminal mind I told them that in sports as in other issues of life you can not say ," HEY I WON I stole the price".
Please how many real architects in this fora think, that develobing new digital tools ,is about robbing. How many are left, that can show an honest attitude, how many are left that don't replace truth with bad exchouses.
hey wisof, you're right i can do this real easy, and you know what i think i am going to use this idea in future projects, thanks! i will give you credit of course.
sorry Per, I was using the contour tool to do just that about 3-4 years ago for a formZ training course. That is why I showed people that it is not a new tool you develop, just a hack of things already there.
What a sad site this is, the only fun is fagot dirt , architecture made into the art of shit ,the tread showed what filth you replaced for beauty , the heaven for the class bully , fagot fagot fagot useles sadass who only find joy in doing the only skill you master, fake names criminal minds , you realy got architecture rocking fagot ,is theis realy the measure for your perception -- na then it's better to know that there are more natural feelings you gou's are killing your own soul ,--- realy I bet the ones who amuse themself harassing hippies allready have a low life, what else can you have , displaying this dirt --- hurra for internasional architecture the sad guy's think they can only win when you protect your name with fake and lie , -- now that sound reasoable knowing you are a fake a darenot one that could be an 8 year old , and you guy's follow . The art of architecture turned into a kindergarden .
Sorry a psyko hospital for sadass old usente boreheads that know nothing about architecture but a lot about usenet.
This tread will tell everything about architecture and architects at this point of history , now what impression will you think the future will see, sick heads who's life are harassing and bullying while they polish their buts and will die without ever being able to create anything but jeloux words and bullying as an art , jeloux fagots with a mind that would make a monkey , if it wasn't the smell of it.
Per, stay off the sauce...it will kill you. you do know that denmark has some of the highest alcoholism rates in the world!!! things will look better in the morning.
stay on mission......
Honeycomb Cereal prize after sitting in display case at '97 West Coast Nationals. Does anyone have a set of original wheels for this other little guy?
hey Per along with credit for inventing tools for nothing can we publish your hateful homophobic, non-sensical rants?? i am willing to bet that death metal and goose stepping nazi culture is alive and well where you live.
okay i`m 701. i`ve not followed the initial posts by per and others regarding 3dh. curiosity drove me to read about this a month back but later was`nt that interested in knowing about this. per`s technique? now i wanna know what this whole thing is about. and i don`t think i wud want someone to suggest me to read from the start. it wud be insane.
somebody share their thoughts?
is this stuff related to computer generated DESIGN to solve complex geometry? or some weird technique which was discovered.. and now wanting to publicize the method which to me does`nt look appealing.
or truly is there anything that is to be known in this thread?
This thread must live. It's important to have something to do when you are bored at work. And it's very relaxing to read this thread. If this thread ever dies, it has to be for a good reason, like a very very hateful post or something, or I just leave archinect forever.
This tread will end some day but chamelon I tell you what this is about.
A clever guy who know his computer and it's programs in and out start writing programs for boats building. He then spend some 15 years and on the way spend 3 years at the architect acadamy and is trusted to continue his now huge collection of programs and proto types at the greatest institution in the land he live in. Now one day he suddenly , even it proberly is not as sudden as I say , get a fantastic idea that solve all the structural problems he have been fighting , an idear that acturly make the computer work and an attitude that make an architect application somthing else than just writing the methods used before the computer, into fast code. No this is a totaly different aproach towerds the structural issues , by a press of a button, the computer generate the intire structural framework, --- then he start progressing the idea , ------ the rest you can use this tread to realise.
------- Realise what happen when a bright guy publish a brand new idea that will change our view about architecture, about design in general as this method ,is so new and refreshing it promise so much,----- but then the sadass old hippiehunting usenet fanatics want to do their sad works outside the rightwing usenet groups they been banned from ---- the result is this tread.
You see chamelon new and refreshing methods are a trouble for some concrete heads, and this method that work with computers a way never seen before attract so many positive responses, but sadly also some charecters that find a lot of joy playing the useal class bully role, they can't bare a clever guy have develobed something that will change architecture and uses this fora to show the inside of their mind.
You see from the start they said "this is impossible" beside it was ugly, then when it proved this was acturly real and worked, then the great fun among architects at this board, was to rob this guy , you see these bullies work two or tree together, and all over the usenet you see them do their sad work --- in alt. architecture the week hotspot are "sex on a bike" and rightwing propoganda, These dudes think that they can alian any newsgroup and fora, but you know the sad response right away, their knowleage about architecture deal with their knowleage about the dogshouse their grand father once made , acturly whenever a group are ruined by their sad dirty minds , you never see them writing about the groups issue, if so be sure it's been copyed and pasted.
One example of these fakenames you can find in a simular tread at Designcommunity, --- some guy who years ago wrote about me "I will hount and make this silli fool whenever I meet him on the web" you see people like that exist people that get banned from foras becaurse their only joy in life is dirt and bullying . The class bully that also in this fora meet no strong resistance the bully that will ruin your job if you don't play the game , that is what an othervise visionary and splendid tread where a nice guy publish an exiting new method turned into -------- if you want more ansveres about why this method is a revolution within architecture and design, do yourself a faviour and go search for 3D-Honeycomb, my name or look at some of the many links I added , ------- what this tread show architecture to be, is not a good display ; if you are a skilled person you can see what easily happen when some rightwing usenet fanatics are allowed to do under cover of fake names. But this tread will end in another way than these jokers want. Why they invated this tread that is about displaying fancy graphics tell by their writing a lot of these bored usenet fanatics ; just check how they never use graphics only words, when they do it is allway's in a badly covered unfriendly way ,it is never to share a good thought or distribuate honesty and well being ---- "Na thouse dings we are not used to down hell"
So when you ask what this tread is about, then the ansver is that it is about what reaction a visionary skilled guy get, when he share his works, what an honest aproach is responded with ,just read the treadand surely you will find that architecture is not your favorite choice, when things happen like this.
Also this tread that show graphics and dirty words is important , as how do things realy happen at your workplace -- are the same guy who harras and bully skilled designers here becaurse he or she get bored , just as harmfull at your job ? Is it so at your station that no one want to support the victim of the class bully, that no one question if the class bully are simply hiding his or her sad life and lame work, by finding victims you don't have the guts to interveen , ------ is it so also at your job that the guy with the filthiest mind and dirtiest talk are in control becaurse none of you have the guts to get a decent work situation and get rid of these bullyes ??
While you think about it please let me show some Visions, guess this is the reson being here, guess beauty and fantastic new methods will end up being more favorable than supporting dirty tricks and bullying for bored.
If you want to see the whole graphics check this link ;
per, i appreciate your quick response. yeah this thread is funny to think about. but, on a serious note i have`nt read your entire post yet. my apologies.i just skimmed thro it and it does show your confidence in a way i don`t understand why.
i will DEFINITELY take up this task of knowing what this is about sooner or later. i was wondering.. you were so quick to respond and it somehow looks to me you`ve started venting your anger unnecessarily trying sooo hard to prove people wrong.
will check it out soon and join the club. thanks..
chameleon it is no bother to go thru the intire tread, it will confuse you to the point that you forget what it's all about, --- instead just know that this is just about being able to form and shape with Solids in a CAD program and then a new way no one ever thought of before , to get a structure by a press of a button. ------- still the attitude is very different from today's architect programs that in fact mainly are just how things was done before computers just re.written into fast reliable code. To take that great step that will profit architecture in such a degree a new architecture are the result, new tools and a new perception is what the Vision must offer --- you must be able to go directly from 3D drawing to producing the actural building frame and I guess the graphics , are all you need, as picture is everything and words is nothing.
QUESTIONNAIRE::::::WHO OR WHAT IS PER CORELL?
in the picture hyperlinked above, is Per corell the:
a.) man in the picture
b.) child
c.) computer
d.) boat
e.) wooden floor
f.) the blackand white box with dalmatian like graphics..
Hi all you fancy graphics lovers
Per, I opened my mind, I waited to see if you would open yours. you ask for 3 . . . three suggestions? Three suggestions to make it better?
1.) Prove this works
2.) Make it aesthetically pleasing to at least 30% or humanity
3.) Make it so that you don't need 10' walls for everything
it is not valid to just present this and say that everyone else is wrong. you have to sell this to us. to say that it is not your to sell when you claim to invent it is not valid. it is a weak escape. Thomas Edison didn't invent the idea of the light bulb and then expected people to crete it without him . . . ok, that is a horrible conjecture . . . You created this? Prove it. Don't ask for designers to prove it, they obviously don't buy it.
eisof it is 3 questions that I can ansver when I do you will know it is quite natural ansvers ,prove it work.
Well there are several resons ,the first is that realy it shuld not be needed as what you see is in itself prove being made in a 3D inviroment. If it don't work in that it don't work but it do. This been proved so many times everywhere where a computer are involved in a design process ,the computer work and what it show on the screen will work . Now I talk about 3D.
2.) Make it aesthetically pleasing to at least 30% or humanity"
Now that is not my job, --- I make the tools and can point to a few options with a few graphics I am not an architect I am designer boatsbuilder and application develober all registrated ,but I am no Superman. I can not first learn several proud tradisional skills ,master tradisional boatsbuilding ,then become a boats designer and start develobing and testing other methods as the one you know, ontop pay all expenses out of my own pocket , and then round 10 years ago when I first simply know, that there must be another way to make those damned ribs not move around in the air, -- then take the risk and just start a 3D-H by hand crafts ---- well today I knew it would have worked, but at that time the computer programs I made, was about develobing surfaces and designing boats from another combine of new methods and tradisional ones, ---this simply asked more develobment and it was not the practic develobment it needed .
At the same time my ecperience tell it work why spend my bread when anyone shuld know this just from graphics --- they already ake walkarounds and that "work" why discriminate a new method with arguments that don't hold.
) Make it so that you don't need 10' walls for everything
But it don't --- I only show the concept, this can be in micro size it can be huge , sheet thickness or material thickness must be calculated, but I am no engineer I am a designer, just a guy who is good getting bright idears ,many around this contry know that.if you want someone good finding smart solutions ask a boatsbuilder ,he is carpenter and metalworker, must be able to process plastic do a set of plans build a mashin whatever, even make a revolution in architecture.
But I tell you one thing for sure, computers work.
Poodle
The project had a lot of focus , it seem quite an exiting project that go new way's so maby you are right, but there are other projects that maby even could combine --- I think about the Spacelift project that first was described in sci-fic but based on real calculations about where in case you could produce a wire that could hold it's own weight ,could be placed in space reaching into the atmosphere and out in space, --- now nanno tubes and structures like freedomship could very well some day combine in placing the ground platform at sea, realy I find such spaceport project quite interesting and proberly a better oppotunity for so huge structures.
'But I tell you one thing for sure, computers work.'
You obivously haven't seen The Lawnmower Man
Hi
No Im'e proberly stuck in the 70' and 80' even in architecture stuck in Van Rhoe architecture, you proberly shuld be glad I am just a designer who make the tools, as if the drive was designing houses I would drive you crazy with Van Rhow inspiredshining designs . Maby you think 3D-H is best for organic forms no, just wait untill someone find out the real pover of beauty, even 70' trend will be splendid, --- so no I still belive computers work and they shuld be more efficient than just staying with the old touble.
where can i buy these tools? and if you say home depot i will shoot my computer...
Please end the pain.
Beta listen you don't go buy a highrise at the home depo you buy a hammer or a cabinet scraper , surely this could produce an instant cabin or if any of you lazy designers would care, an enginous piece of furniture ,you shuld know -- please when you say "I don't want to see" you allready reconised , you allready know. It is not my foult if you can't understand if the reson is that you would not be capable of designing that chair or that piece of furniture that would profit from a relevant method of manufactoring, --- remember I said "Iam just the designer the one who develobed this method" , now you expect that to be something you can buy in a box ; a method an innovative building method, -- that's like expecting the highrise grow by you saying hokus pokus.
Hi
I just tell that if a building collapsed becaurse the hangers and girders gave away ,then part of the right ansver, could be to build without hangers and girders simply realise the vision ,trust the new jobs and new architecture. My personal view is that new architecture must carry the real stuff from the inside out , not be a lookalike outside in , --- and I find it relevant if something that expres itself as the new architecture have a solid framework that also are simple and equaly distribuate the forces.
------ Now if I was sabotaging anything it is building nothing , my attitude is a build around as then you leave the emty volumes of the towers as parks and this do not mean a smaller rebuild .
to wisof
i found the picture on a German architecture-board
guess they chose a grid-structure to get the thing built as the comp-panels disguised the structure by showing just the membrane-like skin
but we will see as the project is scheduled to be finished in 2007 as THIS is a project that evolves from renderings to an actual building (to per)
someone please make it stop
He's going the distance.
is pure gold, Per.
3dhoneycomb - 8:38 AM ET May 9, 2005 (#4136 of 4136)
Per Corell homepage Copy and Paste : http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/
Rebuild the towers
Hi
The material are first thought as plain steel sheet. Today's digital manufactoring cut this directly from the 3D drawings when processed to this framework, but if you want to develob green materials you are welcome as the method will also produce the cabin or small house from one material instead of like how you see floors and walls today are 20 different strait profiles and special fittings.
A tornado btw. carry much more destructive pover than any manmade weapon, and realising that this structure equaly distribuate the firces mean, that hube lumps can be torn away still the rest will still stand. But this is not the issue of rebuilding, what must be rebuild must enforce a new architecture. If you are interested in the method I can tell I develobed it for the past 12 years and openly published it and also contribuated in public architect contests. This is not a thing an engineer just steal and show to an architect ,as when the architect use the method and he don't add the line of credit ,that this fantastic method was develobed by me, a lot of trouble is in the horison. While when I published and offered the architectural community this fantastic new option, any architect would know, that if you "borrow" a splendid new method that easily can change the intire architecture, --- then you leave atleast a line of credit, saying that this method was develobed by the danish architect Per Corell. (I thought you were a boatbuilder but that's my lack of sufficient info, I suppose...pardon me for not reading every post)
So when you the coming years will see splendid new buildings with a fantastic aproach of structure and beauty, remember that the only one who claimed his right about this, is me --- there allready been several attemts using the method and I contacted the architects that all seem to been informed by the great engineering firm Aarup, ---
let me know when the lawsuit on Siza is gonna drop
This could turn out the first great scandal for some famous architects, but it don't nee to, as all I ask is that line of credit.
Still I am glad you see this as being also a contribution to the only right thing to do Rebuild the towers.
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/
Per Corell
(sorry about the spelling english is not my prime. language)
Hi
Thank's for the nice words, now you fancy graphics lovers know that I only display the top of the iceberg , --- I can't say more but huge things is happening untill I can say what, it will be a month ,then and please don't try dig deeper to see if I tell I simply can not, and it would be a wrong ,but things are going the honeycomb direction , --- one thing and the only thing I can tell, is that you will be surprised.
This is going to be one hell of an agonizing month-long drumroll.
I think I know what the huge thing is. Paul wants to issue a special edition Per Corell Archinect T-shirt. I, for one, want to wear the "hey all you fancy graphics lovers" and I am not being sarcastic.
Hi
Sorry I shuld not have said it ,but even _that would be great there are greater issues, --- please forget I said this, as exchouse I promise a full coverage when time come but it simple have to wait.
ha ha ha, this thread is epic. i think per may be unbalanced...
i agree with the t-shirt idea.
"hey all you fancy graphics lovers" is much better than an "architecture sucks" t-shirt
EPIC is right, Javier - the agonizing month-long drumroll, that is priceless...! Please there has got to be a t-shirt coming, please!
I like this:
"you fancy graphics lovers know that I only display the top of the iceberg"
I really do. Maybe the T shirt should be something more generic... just
"Fancy Graphic Lover" in big bubbly bubble-gummy fonts.
of course, from the sound of it... if Archinect did a Fancy Graphics Lovers T shirt without giving some modest credit to Per, it might endure the legal wrath and public lynching at the hands of the designer genius. Therefore, the Tshirt, if it were to be produced, would have to read "hey all you fancy graphics lovers - Per Corell, Danish Architect."
Hi
Did it read ;
hey all you fancy graphics lovers Per Corell Danish Architect.
Then it's real.
I think CorelDraw needs to tread carefully
are they graphics lovers that also happen to be fancy, or are they lovers of fancy graphics?
javier, does the font for the shirt need to be in 3d-h?
It would be amazing to have a faux NYTimes front page... I can see the fonts now...
of course you could just have something like that crafted at the Venice boardwalk
Yeah, who's he callin' fancy!
If anyone actually wanted to use this, you can fire up formZ and use the "contours" tool twice on an object. Do it once, unghost the original object, change the reference plane, and do it again. There you go. I then used the 3D object modifier to add thickness to the planes. Took about 2.3 minutes.
Did you work with formZ to add this functionality to their program? The contours tool has been around for a while, so you may want to check into that.
Hi
You proberly could do so wisof --- but please tell me, would you be doing so, if Per Corell havn't promoted the much greater 3D-H attitude on the web for a decade ?
Now please tell me one thing ; how big a difference will it be, compared two things; first to have seen an interesting new method on the web and then finding a way to copy that -- compared the situation where you acturly develob such thing.
I try again ; don't you think there are a world apart in attitude , just copying a thing you seen in a descriotive graphic one that is made to explain the method. compared being the guy who can not look at someons work to just copy it ?
Isn't it then wierd to claim that the guy that from nothing ,develobed the most fantastic method shuld recive the credit, compared the guy for whom the greatest problem is not an innovative one but deal with finding an exchouse to rob the honest guy who seriously develobed the thing.
Well If I havn't published and promoted this, then you would never have got the idea, you see there are a great difference develobing the new fantastic tools, compared finding a way to copy something.
These two things are not the same --- for some "we did not know" is an easy exchouse, then isn't it good that I can document this and isn't it bad that I must vaste my time protecting the basic rights of an artist, a develober, an innovator, isn't it bad that instead of further develobing I must deal with bad exchouses for stealing.
--------- I just wrote someone saying ; You know what you are doing ,you do that fully aware that you are stealing the bread from some nice guy's mouth ,now what will be the next after "let's go rob him", wouldn't it be "let's go rob him and then kill him" , well I ask as you know who the intelectural rights belong and that this concept are much greater than just architecture, that it will influence design and make a revolution in architecture ---- and still you don't know what is mine or what is yours, please let me help you ; do this realy belong to you, did you develob it ? If not you know it is not yours.
Gee this is things I told my children, so they wouldn't get a criminal mind I told them that in sports as in other issues of life you can not say ," HEY I WON I stole the price".
Please how many real architects in this fora think, that develobing new digital tools ,is about robbing. How many are left, that can show an honest attitude, how many are left that don't replace truth with bad exchouses.
hey wisof, you're right i can do this real easy, and you know what i think i am going to use this idea in future projects, thanks! i will give you credit of course.
haha.
sorry Per, I was using the contour tool to do just that about 3-4 years ago for a formZ training course. That is why I showed people that it is not a new tool you develop, just a hack of things already there.
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What a sad site this is, the only fun is fagot dirt , architecture made into the art of shit ,the tread showed what filth you replaced for beauty , the heaven for the class bully , fagot fagot fagot useles sadass who only find joy in doing the only skill you master, fake names criminal minds , you realy got architecture rocking fagot ,is theis realy the measure for your perception -- na then it's better to know that there are more natural feelings you gou's are killing your own soul ,--- realy I bet the ones who amuse themself harassing hippies allready have a low life, what else can you have , displaying this dirt --- hurra for internasional architecture the sad guy's think they can only win when you protect your name with fake and lie , -- now that sound reasoable knowing you are a fake a darenot one that could be an 8 year old , and you guy's follow . The art of architecture turned into a kindergarden .
Sorry a psyko hospital for sadass old usente boreheads that know nothing about architecture but a lot about usenet.
This tread will tell everything about architecture and architects at this point of history , now what impression will you think the future will see, sick heads who's life are harassing and bullying while they polish their buts and will die without ever being able to create anything but jeloux words and bullying as an art , jeloux fagots with a mind that would make a monkey , if it wasn't the smell of it.
Just practicing
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Per, stay off the sauce...it will kill you. you do know that denmark has some of the highest alcoholism rates in the world!!! things will look better in the morning.
stay on mission......
Honeycomb Cereal prize after sitting in display case at '97 West Coast Nationals. Does anyone have a set of original wheels for this other little guy?
ummmm....someone please tell me that if i go to a-school that it will NOT be like this. very very concerned...
hey Per along with credit for inventing tools for nothing can we publish your hateful homophobic, non-sensical rants?? i am willing to bet that death metal and goose stepping nazi culture is alive and well where you live.
should someone notify the site moderator about that last one?
700 go go go
david his post should stay as a reminder to all what we are dealing with.....oh and i hate to do it but....
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okay i`m 701. i`ve not followed the initial posts by per and others regarding 3dh. curiosity drove me to read about this a month back but later was`nt that interested in knowing about this. per`s technique? now i wanna know what this whole thing is about. and i don`t think i wud want someone to suggest me to read from the start. it wud be insane.
somebody share their thoughts?
is this stuff related to computer generated DESIGN to solve complex geometry? or some weird technique which was discovered.. and now wanting to publicize the method which to me does`nt look appealing.
or truly is there anything that is to be known in this thread?
on a sidenote, even i wanna end this thread.
This thread must live. It's important to have something to do when you are bored at work. And it's very relaxing to read this thread. If this thread ever dies, it has to be for a good reason, like a very very hateful post or something, or I just leave archinect forever.
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This tread will end some day but chamelon I tell you what this is about.
A clever guy who know his computer and it's programs in and out start writing programs for boats building. He then spend some 15 years and on the way spend 3 years at the architect acadamy and is trusted to continue his now huge collection of programs and proto types at the greatest institution in the land he live in. Now one day he suddenly , even it proberly is not as sudden as I say , get a fantastic idea that solve all the structural problems he have been fighting , an idear that acturly make the computer work and an attitude that make an architect application somthing else than just writing the methods used before the computer, into fast code. No this is a totaly different aproach towerds the structural issues , by a press of a button, the computer generate the intire structural framework, --- then he start progressing the idea , ------ the rest you can use this tread to realise.
------- Realise what happen when a bright guy publish a brand new idea that will change our view about architecture, about design in general as this method ,is so new and refreshing it promise so much,----- but then the sadass old hippiehunting usenet fanatics want to do their sad works outside the rightwing usenet groups they been banned from ---- the result is this tread.
You see chamelon new and refreshing methods are a trouble for some concrete heads, and this method that work with computers a way never seen before attract so many positive responses, but sadly also some charecters that find a lot of joy playing the useal class bully role, they can't bare a clever guy have develobed something that will change architecture and uses this fora to show the inside of their mind.
You see from the start they said "this is impossible" beside it was ugly, then when it proved this was acturly real and worked, then the great fun among architects at this board, was to rob this guy , you see these bullies work two or tree together, and all over the usenet you see them do their sad work --- in alt. architecture the week hotspot are "sex on a bike" and rightwing propoganda, These dudes think that they can alian any newsgroup and fora, but you know the sad response right away, their knowleage about architecture deal with their knowleage about the dogshouse their grand father once made , acturly whenever a group are ruined by their sad dirty minds , you never see them writing about the groups issue, if so be sure it's been copyed and pasted.
One example of these fakenames you can find in a simular tread at Designcommunity, --- some guy who years ago wrote about me "I will hount and make this silli fool whenever I meet him on the web" you see people like that exist people that get banned from foras becaurse their only joy in life is dirt and bullying . The class bully that also in this fora meet no strong resistance the bully that will ruin your job if you don't play the game , that is what an othervise visionary and splendid tread where a nice guy publish an exiting new method turned into -------- if you want more ansveres about why this method is a revolution within architecture and design, do yourself a faviour and go search for 3D-Honeycomb, my name or look at some of the many links I added , ------- what this tread show architecture to be, is not a good display ; if you are a skilled person you can see what easily happen when some rightwing usenet fanatics are allowed to do under cover of fake names. But this tread will end in another way than these jokers want. Why they invated this tread that is about displaying fancy graphics tell by their writing a lot of these bored usenet fanatics ; just check how they never use graphics only words, when they do it is allway's in a badly covered unfriendly way ,it is never to share a good thought or distribuate honesty and well being ---- "Na thouse dings we are not used to down hell"
So when you ask what this tread is about, then the ansver is that it is about what reaction a visionary skilled guy get, when he share his works, what an honest aproach is responded with ,just read the treadand surely you will find that architecture is not your favorite choice, when things happen like this.
Also this tread that show graphics and dirty words is important , as how do things realy happen at your workplace -- are the same guy who harras and bully skilled designers here becaurse he or she get bored , just as harmfull at your job ? Is it so at your station that no one want to support the victim of the class bully, that no one question if the class bully are simply hiding his or her sad life and lame work, by finding victims you don't have the guts to interveen , ------ is it so also at your job that the guy with the filthiest mind and dirtiest talk are in control becaurse none of you have the guts to get a decent work situation and get rid of these bullyes ??
While you think about it please let me show some Visions, guess this is the reson being here, guess beauty and fantastic new methods will end up being more favorable than supporting dirty tricks and bullying for bored.
If you want to see the whole graphics check this link ;
http://www.designcommunity.com/scrapbook/images/1773.jpg
Or if you want to se how the method combine round and square ;
Want to see the whole picture check this link;
http://www.designcommunity.com/scrapbook/images/1969.jpg
per, i appreciate your quick response. yeah this thread is funny to think about. but, on a serious note i have`nt read your entire post yet. my apologies.i just skimmed thro it and it does show your confidence in a way i don`t understand why.
i will DEFINITELY take up this task of knowing what this is about sooner or later. i was wondering.. you were so quick to respond and it somehow looks to me you`ve started venting your anger unnecessarily trying sooo hard to prove people wrong.
will check it out soon and join the club. thanks..
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chameleon it is no bother to go thru the intire tread, it will confuse you to the point that you forget what it's all about, --- instead just know that this is just about being able to form and shape with Solids in a CAD program and then a new way no one ever thought of before , to get a structure by a press of a button. ------- still the attitude is very different from today's architect programs that in fact mainly are just how things was done before computers just re.written into fast reliable code. To take that great step that will profit architecture in such a degree a new architecture are the result, new tools and a new perception is what the Vision must offer --- you must be able to go directly from 3D drawing to producing the actural building frame and I guess the graphics , are all you need, as picture is everything and words is nothing.
QUESTIONNAIRE::::::WHO OR WHAT IS PER CORELL?
in the picture hyperlinked above, is Per corell the:
a.) man in the picture
b.) child
c.) computer
d.) boat
e.) wooden floor
f.) the blackand white box with dalmatian like graphics..
ans: i say f. reason: empty!
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