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Honda FCX??

aking

Just saw a commercial...whats the deal?

http://world.honda.com/news/2007/4071114All-New-FCX/

 
Nov 15, 07 9:39 pm
WonderK

Wow. I actually saw the unveiling on my way to school this morning, on the plaza in front of the LA Convention Center. I was wondering what was going on!

Nov 15, 07 9:55 pm  · 
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pluk

...holding on to my old car till this or something better becomes available, no investment in gasoline powered anything anymore!

Nov 15, 07 9:59 pm  · 
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****melt

I saw the commercial too and was thinking the exact same thing. Hmmm.

Nov 15, 07 10:41 pm  · 
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hm. time to think about trading in my hybrid civic? tough call, but probably not yet.

despite the benefits of this car, it's still an unnecessary new car that would replace a perfectly ok older car (2003), i.e., unnecessary consumption of all the energy and resources it took to make the thing.

noticed that they downplayed the need for a hydrogen 'station', not mentioned until near the end of the article as something that the navigation system can help you find. i wonder how they've approached the fact that the hydrogen-delivery infrastructure (especially out here in the middle) is nearly non-existent.

Nov 16, 07 7:23 am  · 
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****melt

I could have sworn the article said they are just introducing it to the California market. Hopefully this won't go by the way of the electric car.

Nov 16, 07 8:38 am  · 
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ArchiNectar

Time to buy stock in Honda and whoever is going to build those hydrogen fuel stations. Halliburton?

Nov 16, 07 9:26 am  · 
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ArchiNectar

Stong Buy...Strong Buy: http://www.fuelcells.org/info/charts/h2fuelingstations.pdf

Nov 16, 07 9:27 am  · 
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ArchiNectar

I looked for a name that occurred more frequently on the list and found this: Ticker=HYGS Hydrogenics, Inc.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=HYGS
Earnings released 11/8 and while a small small company, it looks good, and @1.112 per share, we can gobble up a bunch. Lets pump this baby

Nov 16, 07 9:32 am  · 
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i just read through that thing and I am still wondering what it is. Does it plug in? Do you fill it with water? Do you have to buy a new fuel cell everytime you've reached the 270 miles? What...someone could you help me.

Nov 16, 07 9:38 am  · 
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Arzo

look at all the smog in that shot.

Nov 16, 07 10:05 am  · 
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quizzical
"The FCX Clarity's only emission is water. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions come only from the production of hydrogen, which varies by source; however, well-to-wheel CO2 emissions using hydrogen reformed from natural gas - the most widely used method of production today - are less than half that of a conventional gasoline vehicle. With the production of hydrogen from water by electrolysis, CO2 emissions can be further reduced and ultimately approach zero if the electricity used for electrolysis is generated using solar, wind, water or nuclear power."

Isn't this the key to it all .... especially that last sentence ?

Nov 16, 07 10:26 am  · 
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****melt

Atechno- I was actually wondering the same thing. Anyone know? I have a friend who actually works at Honda. Perhaps I can pick his brain this evening.

Nov 16, 07 10:56 am  · 
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mdler

apparently they are only on long term lease from honda and will be around $500 a month

Nov 16, 07 12:41 pm  · 
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****melt

Which means (conspiracy theorist I am) they can take them back at any moment if they deem it necessary.

Nov 16, 07 12:59 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?

you'll have to take the right to my honda from my cold, dead hands

Nov 16, 07 1:06 pm  · 
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aking

"Hydrogen is plentiful. But getting it loose to use as fuel isn't easy. Most
of it — 95%, says Ben Knight, Honda's vice president for research and development in America — comes from natural gas, the same fuel that heats most U.S. homes. The U.S. has roughly 3% of the world's natural gas, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Big players: Russia (27%), Iran (16%), Qatar (15%)."

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2007-05-18-test-drive-fcx_N.htm


So it may(?) be more eco friendly but it still doesn't decrease our dependency on foreign energy.

I remember reading about Brazil, I think, that doesn't import any energy and is able to produce all their energy in house. Anyone familiar?

Nov 17, 07 3:06 pm  · 
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aking

sorry, should have googled first.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR2006081900842.html

and why can we not follow suit???

Nov 17, 07 3:10 pm  · 
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