the nice thing is that the procedure is done orthoscopically, so incision and recovery are minor. yeah, i have had a LOT of bod-mod in the past 2 yrs, but this feels right.
I have nothing but respect and awe for the act of giving part of your body to help another person. If I could do it, especially for someone in my family, I would absolutely. Good for you even considering it seriously, beta.
Now: do you have any tattoos you want to post pics of?! ;-)
How do you remove a kidney without a large incesion? And do you pay for this, your insurance, or the living donor organization? I'm just curious. Could you piggyback some sort of elective proceedure ontop of this one, like liposuction or implants, something completely trivial and unnecessary?
For clarification, I'm not saying you need anything like that, just curious as to whether its possible or not.
I once sat on a plane with a girl (about 20yo) who was going home to see her father, who was recovering from a kidney transplant. My seatmate's sister had donated the kidney. My seatmate said that the surgery and recovery for the donor, surprisingly, had been more difficult that that for the recipient. This was just one case, and perhaps the dad was in fantastic shape at 60 while his daughter had beaten up her body while in college, I mean who knows what the specifics were of their situation. Just sharing the story I heard.
soil moisture... Between the capillary fringe and the soil
surface is the vadose zone, or the zone of
aeration. found this gem while studying hydrology/stream morphology for my next round of LAREs.
oh, my tat is a memorial sacred heart with 'mom'...
beta- i see you as more of the body mod implant sort, go for the subcutaneous horns ;-P
see, i've been thinking about a Wolverine type implant, as in Wolverine from the X-Men...something about adamantine armour and knives ripping out of my skin i find appealing.
so you're sayin that i live in the dirt? great. unless its a dirt sinzone then its cool.
hey beta if you give a kidney to someone and then say down the line you're wife or kid or best friend or whoever needs a kidney then how you gonna help them with their dilemma? you'd be like well i'd like to help but i already gave a kidney away. or what if you got in a knife fight and you got stabbed in your only kidney???? man you'd be s.o.l. there dude.
I've heard the same thing too about the surgery being harder on the person donating the kidney, but I think the reward far out ways the cons. I would do it to for family as well. I It's a very honorable thing to do Beta, I say go for it.
beta go for it! Just know that if you have any body mods of the metallic sort, they have to come out or be switched with tygon for any and all surgeries.
tk- you can still be an organ donor if you're not eligible to be a blood donor?! I'd been saying 'no' to the organ donor sticker, thinking they wouldn't want any of my risky tissue getting on the market (tat, piercings, TB as a kid).
r- stuffy????? got the tat back in '96 or so before every dick jane harry and celebrity had ink. back in the day I was a scenester around silverlake hanging with the slacker, jokers, addicts, and rockers - I may have been stuffy before that phase, now I've just mellowed in my post-grad school/married life/soon to be a dad thirties... (and I've never worn a bow tie with out a tux)
isn't the adamantine armor supposed to protect your remaining kidney?
all this talk about offal has got me thinking about getting mightylittle to post some recipes for kidney pie or something. oh its almost lunch time...
vado makes a good point, but my thought is they are now growing ears on the backs of rats, it'll be days before they can grow kidneys on the backs of chimps.
oh, i am part irish and i always bring a gun to knife fight, per Sean Connery's rules.
all i know is i can help someone without too much risk. i think liver is easier and it grows back, but surgery is a bit more evasive, and lung lobes are a little tougher too, besides if i am going to run that marathon next year, i'll need it.
So, on a random note, I was just thinking it would be interesting to see how many of the TC pages were from each year it has existed. I know that 100-170 are from 2007, but TC was started when? I quick colour coding of the years would be neat, though I wouldnt want to look at a rainbowed page index everyday either.
techno, I didn't know that anyone else would be interested! I haven't ridden the SLUT yet, not the part of town I usually hang in. For those scared to click the link, the SLUT is the South Lake Union Trolley. They apparently actually decided on another name after someone pointed out the acronym to it, but we all still call it the SLUT anyway. I bet that e rides the SLUT all the time.
tk- you never know how you're going to come accross online. If you're offended, remember that people typically expect me to be an old man and call it even!
Actually, Rationalist, I picture you as a girl, with straight, thick, natural dark blondish hair. And I picture it sholder length, but always up in a ponytail. I also picture you as smiling most of the time, but with a secret annoyed streak that you hide just to tolerate the annoying people in your life. And I imagine you to have a dark, sarcastic side.
Have we ever done a thread about what we think people are?
Tk, you're right I could've done that. I was thinking mid-post that I'd have to go back to page one, and I didn't want to do that. Hopefully my brain will regain normal functions in 10 weeks!
And I picture you as thin, short dark hair, a little on the spikey side, sometimes with, and sometimes without glasses. And I imagine your are talkative when you drink.
sarah- that's pretty close, except that I don't have that much hair anymore (and it wants to be more of a jewfro then spiky when it gets longer). and I'm talkative all the time!
My wife was complaining that she can't remember names anymore (or other more complex concepts that she's studying for her psych license exam). ten weeks will be the beginning of sleep deprivation
Ether, I dont know, you just were. Must've been all the baby talk. Now that you've changed your name, I picture you differently. I thought you were thin, wavy blonde, but now i picture you as early 30s, thinning hair, and in a sweater. I also see you with a round, happy face, with pronounced cheek bones because you smile often.
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
Sarah, you're a bit off. A little younger than that, long wavy red hippy hair (first cut in 10 months yesterday!). And my dark side is pretty well out there, I'm only cuddly once you get to know me. Apparently my online persona is also more mainstream than my real one. Oh, and though I haven't caught up to vado (or WonderK probably), the weight loss tally for this year has been 16 pounds so far! So all the 'nectors that met me last march think of me as fatter than I am now.
Maybe now that my hair has been tamed I'll update the look-like thread. There's much more hair and a bit more metal since I posted in that.
Wow I was way off, Rationalist. Funny how the way we type, even in a generic font, can give images of us.
Atechno, I would love to be like that, I think I would be great friends with someone like that, but I've never been a whiskey fan. I do like rum and vodka, which I drink straight, unless I'm feeling a little something extra. I DONT like fruity firly drinks, though. And I used to love tequila, but after you have 4/5 of a bottle, by yourself, tequila just doesn't like you. One drink of tequila, and I wont remember a thing. And my current favourite beer is the Optimator, but I can't remember who makes it. Its a dark beer, but not like a guiness dark.
I also have blonde hippy/fairy hair, and blue eyes.
As for wit, well, its gotten more blunt with my expanding condition. I tend to say things without thinking, and often get myself into trouble without meaning to be mean. Just like, I could've offended people with my discriptions, but I didn't mean to. I don't have a very good filter.
tk- both of my pics on there are pretty out of date. The one I posted has far too little hair, and the one DubK posted with me in it is from when I was the fattest I've ever been. It actually saddens me to know that people here think of me as being that size.
And I didn't picture Sarah as a whisky lady, but I did guess right on the blondness. The name Sarah (particularly with an 'h') just says 'blonde' to me somehow.
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
Speaking of losing weight and being healthy... For various reasons, I looked into fasting a couple of months ago but never made a commitment. I think I'm going to give it a go in the new year. Anyone have some experience in this area?
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
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the nice thing is that the procedure is done orthoscopically, so incision and recovery are minor. yeah, i have had a LOT of bod-mod in the past 2 yrs, but this feels right.
I have nothing but respect and awe for the act of giving part of your body to help another person. If I could do it, especially for someone in my family, I would absolutely. Good for you even considering it seriously, beta.
Now: do you have any tattoos you want to post pics of?! ;-)
How do you remove a kidney without a large incesion? And do you pay for this, your insurance, or the living donor organization? I'm just curious. Could you piggyback some sort of elective proceedure ontop of this one, like liposuction or implants, something completely trivial and unnecessary?
For clarification, I'm not saying you need anything like that, just curious as to whether its possible or not.
no tats, not yet, if i can do this donation - still need to go through evals - i will wait and get a sleeve done after.
i will not have to pay anything, it's all covered by the recipient's insurance.
Beta
I say go for it..
Everyone else should be at least a post-death donor..
It saves lives.
I once sat on a plane with a girl (about 20yo) who was going home to see her father, who was recovering from a kidney transplant. My seatmate's sister had donated the kidney. My seatmate said that the surgery and recovery for the donor, surprisingly, had been more difficult that that for the recipient. This was just one case, and perhaps the dad was in fantastic shape at 60 while his daughter had beaten up her body while in college, I mean who knows what the specifics were of their situation. Just sharing the story I heard.
I think you should go for it too.
for vado-
soil moisture... Between the capillary fringe and the soil
surface is the vadose zone, or the zone of
aeration. found this gem while studying hydrology/stream morphology for my next round of LAREs.
oh, my tat is a memorial sacred heart with 'mom'...
beta- i see you as more of the body mod implant sort, go for the subcutaneous horns ;-P
see, i've been thinking about a Wolverine type implant, as in Wolverine from the X-Men...something about adamantine armour and knives ripping out of my skin i find appealing.
so you're sayin that i live in the dirt? great. unless its a dirt sinzone then its cool.
hey beta if you give a kidney to someone and then say down the line you're wife or kid or best friend or whoever needs a kidney then how you gonna help them with their dilemma? you'd be like well i'd like to help but i already gave a kidney away. or what if you got in a knife fight and you got stabbed in your only kidney???? man you'd be s.o.l. there dude.
I've heard the same thing too about the surgery being harder on the person donating the kidney, but I think the reward far out ways the cons. I would do it to for family as well. I It's a very honorable thing to do Beta, I say go for it.
beta go for it! Just know that if you have any body mods of the metallic sort, they have to come out or be switched with tygon for any and all surgeries.
tk- you can still be an organ donor if you're not eligible to be a blood donor?! I'd been saying 'no' to the organ donor sticker, thinking they wouldn't want any of my risky tissue getting on the market (tat, piercings, TB as a kid).
and btw, I have a new appreciation for treekiller now. I was thinking of him as a little stuffy, and lo and behold he turns out to be modded!
r- stuffy????? got the tat back in '96 or so before every dick jane harry and celebrity had ink. back in the day I was a scenester around silverlake hanging with the slacker, jokers, addicts, and rockers - I may have been stuffy before that phase, now I've just mellowed in my post-grad school/married life/soon to be a dad thirties... (and I've never worn a bow tie with out a tux)
isn't the adamantine armor supposed to protect your remaining kidney?
all this talk about offal has got me thinking about getting mightylittle to post some recipes for kidney pie or something. oh its almost lunch time...
vado makes a good point, but my thought is they are now growing ears on the backs of rats, it'll be days before they can grow kidneys on the backs of chimps.
oh, i am part irish and i always bring a gun to knife fight, per Sean Connery's rules.
all i know is i can help someone without too much risk. i think liver is easier and it grows back, but surgery is a bit more evasive, and lung lobes are a little tougher too, besides if i am going to run that marathon next year, i'll need it.
Is that thing pooping?!
that's better than shitting earwax.
ewwwwww!
(since beta and tk are almost tied, better keep my post count up!)
yarf!
remember lb, everyone and everything poops!
So, on a random note, I was just thinking it would be interesting to see how many of the TC pages were from each year it has existed. I know that 100-170 are from 2007, but TC was started when? I quick colour coding of the years would be neat, though I wouldnt want to look at a rainbowed page index everyday either.
I always thought treekiller was rugged, with a tattoo of a giant axe on his back or an evergreen.
good news - I'm officially in escrow.
and how comes you Seattle natives haven't said anything about the SLUT
no warning necessary
techno, I didn't know that anyone else would be interested! I haven't ridden the SLUT yet, not the part of town I usually hang in. For those scared to click the link, the SLUT is the South Lake Union Trolley. They apparently actually decided on another name after someone pointed out the acronym to it, but we all still call it the SLUT anyway. I bet that e rides the SLUT all the time.
tk- you never know how you're going to come accross online. If you're offended, remember that people typically expect me to be an old man and call it even!
btw when I went to work this afternoon, this is what I saw. I am taking late mornings as I have to work the exhibition until 7 each evening. Fun!
r- you mean you don't have a gray beard and ear hair!?
r- not offended, just amused - always thought that the punk attitude of my nome du screen kept me from seeming too square.
it must be a slow day at everybodies office with the traffic at TC today.
sarah - look at the top of the page for tc's birth announcement:
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not that we see much of abra around here anymore...
Actually, Rationalist, I picture you as a girl, with straight, thick, natural dark blondish hair. And I picture it sholder length, but always up in a ponytail. I also picture you as smiling most of the time, but with a secret annoyed streak that you hide just to tolerate the annoying people in your life. And I imagine you to have a dark, sarcastic side.
Have we ever done a thread about what we think people are?
Oh, and I imagine you to be around 26-28.
Tk, you're right I could've done that. I was thinking mid-post that I'd have to go back to page one, and I didn't want to do that. Hopefully my brain will regain normal functions in 10 weeks!
And I picture you as thin, short dark hair, a little on the spikey side, sometimes with, and sometimes without glasses. And I imagine your are talkative when you drink.
sarah- that's pretty close, except that I don't have that much hair anymore (and it wants to be more of a jewfro then spiky when it gets longer). and I'm talkative all the time!
My wife was complaining that she can't remember names anymore (or other more complex concepts that she's studying for her psych license exam). ten weeks will be the beginning of sleep deprivation
so how did i become a woman?!
thanks to john devlin - that was a classic thread
Ether, I dont know, you just were. Must've been all the baby talk. Now that you've changed your name, I picture you differently. I thought you were thin, wavy blonde, but now i picture you as early 30s, thinning hair, and in a sweater. I also see you with a round, happy face, with pronounced cheek bones because you smile often.
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
Sarah, you're a bit off. A little younger than that, long wavy red hippy hair (first cut in 10 months yesterday!). And my dark side is pretty well out there, I'm only cuddly once you get to know me. Apparently my online persona is also more mainstream than my real one. Oh, and though I haven't caught up to vado (or WonderK probably), the weight loss tally for this year has been 16 pounds so far! So all the 'nectors that met me last march think of me as fatter than I am now.
Maybe now that my hair has been tamed I'll update the look-like thread. There's much more hair and a bit more metal since I posted in that.
r- there is a picture of your cuteness on the thread I just linked...
Wow I was way off, Rationalist. Funny how the way we type, even in a generic font, can give images of us.
Atechno, I would love to be like that, I think I would be great friends with someone like that, but I've never been a whiskey fan. I do like rum and vodka, which I drink straight, unless I'm feeling a little something extra. I DONT like fruity firly drinks, though. And I used to love tequila, but after you have 4/5 of a bottle, by yourself, tequila just doesn't like you. One drink of tequila, and I wont remember a thing. And my current favourite beer is the Optimator, but I can't remember who makes it. Its a dark beer, but not like a guiness dark.
I also have blonde hippy/fairy hair, and blue eyes.
As for wit, well, its gotten more blunt with my expanding condition. I tend to say things without thinking, and often get myself into trouble without meaning to be mean. Just like, I could've offended people with my discriptions, but I didn't mean to. I don't have a very good filter.
tk- both of my pics on there are pretty out of date. The one I posted has far too little hair, and the one DubK posted with me in it is from when I was the fattest I've ever been. It actually saddens me to know that people here think of me as being that size.
And I didn't picture Sarah as a whisky lady, but I did guess right on the blondness. The name Sarah (particularly with an 'h') just says 'blonde' to me somehow.
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
yeah, I hate when people leave off the 'h.'
Speaking of losing weight and being healthy... For various reasons, I looked into fasting a couple of months ago but never made a commitment. I think I'm going to give it a go in the new year. Anyone have some experience in this area?
well to turn the fortunes, Sarah H; I've seen you as brown haired with bright green eyes and sharp wit, that can shoot proper whiskey with the boys, and likes her ale tall and cold. Albeit now with the warmth of an expectant mother. Don't tell me I'm wrong, because in my mind's eye I know I'm right.
How many times are you going to post that, techno? I'm sorry. I do like your picturing of me.
apologies everyone - I'm not sure what happened. I've had multiple posts before but never so dramatic. Apologies again.
I think i'm going to sneak out early - peace to all.
I'm alive....I'll talk again soon, I promise.....
betterlate than never!
did somebody call my name?
got any recipes for kidneys?
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