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help: translucence glass/acrylic

ht

anyone knows any low cost subsitution for translucence glass that's noncombustible (not ignore at 1200F)

 
Aug 25, 05 2:41 pm

try contacting the people at Lightblocks (www.lightblocks.com) they might either have something or be able to point you in the right direction.

Aug 25, 05 2:56 pm  · 
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el jeffe

why non-combustible?

Aug 25, 05 3:00 pm  · 
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JohnProlly

Low cost = prolly not fire rated.

Aug 25, 05 3:02 pm  · 
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JohnProlly

I am a fan of Lumicite and different forms of polygal

Aug 25, 05 3:03 pm  · 
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3 form
http://www.3-form.com/
Best material I've seen, dont know if its cheaper than glass though

Aug 25, 05 3:07 pm  · 
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their eco-resin is good for leed,
and you can make patterns and sandwich them inside the material

Aug 25, 05 3:08 pm  · 
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I035PEP

Polycarbonate, try looking at Polygal and GE Plastics.

Aug 25, 05 3:16 pm  · 
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ht

Thank you for all your input. 3 form products are really nice, but its self ignition temp is pretty low. polycarbonate(GE/lightbox/CPI) got appox. 1070F, which fall a bit short as well. perhaps, glass may be the only choice for noncombustable.

Aug 25, 05 8:21 pm  · 
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OlDirtyArchitect

3 form will run you about $1500 for 3/4" thick sheet (4X8) that does not include shipping. I think their sheets that are 1/4" are about $900. No orders smaller than 1 sheet of 4 x 8. I wanted a product of theirs for a coffee table but $1500 was a bit more than I was willing to spend.

Aug 25, 05 8:35 pm  · 
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3 form is nice indeed. it doesn't meet fire standards here unfortunately.

you are looking for something less expensive than glass?

Aug 25, 05 8:51 pm  · 
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el jeffe

seriously - i'm curious - why does it have to be non-combustible?

Aug 25, 05 9:02 pm  · 
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ht

it's for exterior wall.. code requires it to be noncombustible.

Aug 25, 05 9:05 pm  · 
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el jeffe

so this is a skin and not an opening - right?

Aug 25, 05 9:35 pm  · 
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proto

use laminated glass with a colored inner layer

viracon used to have a product called opticolor that you could mix and match inner layer colors to achieve a fair number of different colors.

i do not know if they still support this technology, but someone out there must...

Aug 25, 05 11:22 pm  · 
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proto

for the plastics, consider the smoke problem that may be worse than anything else about them. some of the newer resins mentioned above have qualified as Type 1 or A materials.

Aug 26, 05 12:40 am  · 
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ice9

if its for an exterior application, remember that resins and polycarbonates will yellow over time in sunlight. acrylic and glass will not.

Aug 26, 05 2:39 pm  · 
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