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SneakyPete

It was only a matter of time before our profession was featured in the headlines of bad behavior.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...

 
Mar 13, 18 1:47 pm
Non Sequitur

That's what Meier looks like?

Sploosh.


Mar 13, 18 1:49 pm
tduds

.

tintt

(shudder)

thatsthat

Somewhat ironically, I just saw this headline in AR yesterday... https://www.architecturalrecor...

Ugh.

Mar 13, 18 2:11 pm
SneakyPete

Rosa Sheng, who is cited in that article, has done some excellent work in this area. She and her colleagues have really helped me get a better handle on where the profession is and where it needs to go.

b3tadine[sutures]
No more silence? You haven't been listening!
Cheryl NoelMarch 2, 2018
No more silence? Not all of us have been silent, you - the press - have chosen not to listen or give our voices power. Despite the consequences, and despite being largely relegated to the fringes of the profession, many of us have been speaking out for many years. And before you encourage more people to speak out, you better be ready to have their backs. I have not been the victim of blatant sexual harassment or assault within the profession, but physical assault is not the only form of inappropriate or illegal conduct. My experience and the general state of the profession is much more insidious discrimination, and it extends far beyond architecture to the larger building industry. Anyone who is not a straight white male and has been working in this profession for more than 5 minutes likely has a story, some more outrageous than others. Things have improved somewhat since I entered the profession, but discrimination still runs deep here, and I have not seen signs of any substantive change. There hasn't even been a conversation yet, and not for lack of will. I've taken a handful of 'equity' surveys recently, and they are not even asking pertinent questions. I have even reached out to the survey sponsors as there is no box to capture meaningful input. When enraged by Robert Ivy's response to the election of Donald Trump, I wrote a letter and sent it to every single architectural/design publication, including Architectural Record. You did not chose to publish it, no one did except for Archinect: https://archinect.com/news/article/149978367/cheryl-noel-aia-of-chicago-s-wrap-architecture-responds-to-notmyaia Silence is not always the result of the lack of voices speaking out, sometimes, maybe most of the time, it is the suppression of those voices by those in power.
Mar 13, 18 4:17 pm
randomised

What sickens me most is that apparently everyone in that firm knows about Meier's behaviour, including female supervisors who keep on sending women over to his house. Hope that fucking firm goes bankrupt asap.

Mar 13, 18 4:17 pm
joseffischer

That was my big shocker out of the article too... like, as a higher up, how do you do that?

0 for 2.

Bad architect and a womanizer. Maybe now the fanboys will look at his crappy work more critically.

Mar 13, 18 5:44 pm
citizen

Exactly.    "Not only is he a sexual predator, he grids absolutely everything AND can't tolerate color!"

mantaray

I suppose now I can feel better about hating the Getty

Mar 13, 18 6:32 pm
tintt

No feeling bad about that. I tried to like it too, but couldn't.

b3tadine[sutures]

The only thing good about the Getty? Irwin's gardens.

Andrew.Circle

Getty Villa > Getty Center

jla-x

B3, There we can agree!

haruki

It it great to see Meier finally getting his comeuppance. His office was the most blatantly sexist environment I've ever been in. It was gross and it came from the top. It was no secret that Meier was a sexual abuser. When I worked there there had just been some sort of settlement with a woman he had harassed. We weren't supposed to talk about it around the office but people did of course. Apart from Meier the things I witnessed when there weren't any women in the room have made me predisposed to totally side with the me too women. 

Mar 13, 18 6:49 pm
Almosthip7

What did you do to stop it while you worked there? Or did you just look the other way as well?

Almosthip that's a pretty accusatorial phrasing. Remember, people who don't have power have all kinds of legitimate reasons to not place themselves in the position to be abused. Rather than attack the powerless focus on making the powerful play fair.

Sir Apple Chrissy

I thought everyone knew  porn was free on the internet and there is no problem Rosie Palmer couldn't solve, for a man at least....

which of course means any man could solve their internal problems without involving any other human being.  you know, like talk dirty to the porn magazine or computer screen.  smack that Apple Laptop...whatever.

anyway, I'm just being a Modernist Functionalist about this situation.  Less is more.   I guess there's probably some deep seeded Power struggle here, yawn.

Mar 13, 18 7:08 pm
curtkram

as diogenes of sinope said, "I wish it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly."

Sir Apple Chrissy

It is if one wills it to be...but look this is America its everyones fault but your own. Maybe Richard suffers from sexual harrasement mental illness or something...i think he should sue these women for luring him in, surely its not his fault.

placebeyondthesplines__

if you think these comments are funny, you should reevaluate your terrible sense of humor

Sir Apple Chrissy

I think the lack of accountability in this culture is funny, yes i do. You cant have it both ways you know. Freedom and no accountability whule blaming genetics at the same time. Free will does not work that way. Fate or free will?

placebeyondthesplines_

jokes about masturbation in a thread about sexual harassment are not fucking funny, you idiot

Sir Apple Chrissy

So you would rather have men harass women then mastubate?

curtkram

They're two entirely different things. It's not harassment until you have one party that doesn't consent to the act.

placebeyondthesplines_

there's no point in engaging him, he just wants to turn a serious issue into an opportunity for attention. just flag his dumb ass and move on

Sir Apple Chrissy

Really? Place you need some education and help

Sir Apple Chrissy

Curt. You raise the more complex issue. But if you know its wrong dont do it right? No one can claim harassment if you denythe possibilities for interaction that can cause such claims.

jla-x

“but look this is America its everyones fault but your own. Maybe Richard suffers from sexual harrasement mental illness or something..” Pete, I’m sure that will be a thing soon...Some drug company will come out with a treatment and make a ton of $...Then they will get erectile disfunction and sue...Meyer will end up even richer...spend all his money on sex robots...the robots will revolt...and he will be back in trouble again.

Sir Apple Chrissy

The end. (Lol jla-x)

placebeyondthesplines__

the adults here are just embarrassed for you dipshits

jla-x

The dipshits here are embarrassed by your virtue signaling.

jla-x

We all know that exposing oneself, or grabbing an employee is a really gross and fucked up thing to do...

placebeyondthesplines_

ah, "virtue signaling," the favored accusation among the ignorant and afraid. those of us on the right side of history are going to enjoy watching you struggle to stay relevant

jla-x

What is the “right side” of history? let me guess, everyone states the obvious via online forum that sexual assault is bad...duh...we know this...

Sir Apple Chrissy

Sex can wait, master...."right side" of history, are you a fascist? Sounds like something a fascists would say....as he pounds fist on table

b3tadine[sutures]

"It was no secret that Meier was a sexual abuser." - This bothers me.

I am going to call for the revocation of his Fellow status, and the revocation his Gold Medal. 

Going to be an interesting Conference in NYC.

Mar 13, 18 10:05 pm
placebeyondthesplines__

cue Balkins with a bullshit "due process" argument...

b3tadine[sutures]

This is an easy call, I'll make the floor motion.

I really like the "we" part in as a profession ....

b3tadine[sutures]

The "we", read Bobby Ivy and Carl, are ducking for cover like this was a "Duck and Cover" drill.

https://www.aia.org/articles/1...

Rule 1.401 Members shall not discriminate in their professional activities on the basis of race, religion, gender, national origin, age, disability, or sexual orientation.

Looks like Meier only screwed up by not hitting on men, too.

b3tadine[sutures]

That we know of.

tintt

Bothersome is a start.

randomised

Can't believe the lack of humanity of all those employees, male AND female who willingly and knowingly kept on sending fresh meat (apologies for the wording but that's how it seems) over to Meier's home, knowing he's waiting for his next victim wearing nothing but a loosely tied robe, thereby turning #metoo in a continuous stream of #hertoo's...it's not just Meier, it's the entire firm that's rotten to the core and don't even get me started about their architecture or lack there of.

Mar 14, 18 3:09 am
archietechie

What infuriates me isn't just Meier's behaviour but the people who knew this fucking thing that's been going on since forever.

Anyway is it too late to rescind his Pritzker?

Mar 14, 18 5:08 am

If you work for a starchitect the likelihood that you or people around you will suffer abuse is unfortunately a possibility. Celebrity in any profession leads to corruption and terrible behavior. This will not just ruin the career of Meier but the people who work in his office.  It is a sad day, but survivable and the profession can be stronger once this is dealt with properly.

No job is worth staying in an abusive work environment. There are other job opportunities, you should not wait for things to change, for people to change because they likely won't. If there is abuse in your workplace get out, you are too valuable to have to put up with it.

Over and OUT

Peter N

Mar 14, 18 10:02 am
JLC-1

not only starchitects, abuse comes from a self image of superiority, and most of small men have it.

How To Stop Sexual Harassment In Design Right Now. https://www.fastcodesign.com/9...

Don't be a bathrobe.

Mar 14, 18 1:34 pm
wynne1architect@gmail.com

It is just not Jewish men who do this! Shame on the Pritzker Prize, the foundation should remove that award.

Mar 14, 18 3:35 pm
placebeyondthesplines__

who the fuck said it was?

tduds

lol what.

citizen

Whoa, whoa, hang on!  Gentiles do this, too?

Sir Apple Chrissy

But NOT Gentlemen.

Sir Apple Chrissy

wait i came here for work by Richard Meier....



Mar 14, 18 7:11 pm
citizen

Okay, here you go.


Sir Apple Chrissy

Many thanks. Lol. Got it. Meiered out

jla-x

Surprised the Paulo soleri revelation didn’t get more attention.  

Mar 14, 18 7:27 pm
oneLOSTarchitect

He was just a hippie in a desert. reason it didnt get traction was because he really isn’t considered an A listed architect. If it was Frank Ghery different story.. but for people and architects outside of AZ no one knows who he is

randomised

Soleri's dead for almost 5 years already...

jla-x

Yeah, isn’t it a funny human thing that with time things are forgiven, and the architecture becomes more and more distanced from the architect and events...a place where slaves where fed to tigers in front of cheering crowds is now a tourist attraction “wow isn’t that lovely...”

jla-x

“This is where they used to decapitate people and roll their heads down the steps Timmy” “cool, can I buy a montezuma action figure mom!” “Of course you can :)”

randomised

Also, but what's to gain from revelations about dead people? He can't be held accountable or even defend himself, so what's the point? I'm not saying it shouldn't have been published but I totally understand that in Soleri's case the attention was/is much less. He's also not that well-known, whereas Meier even won a bloody Pritzker and builds all over the world, The Hague city hall for example with it's beautiful Carl Stahl suicide nets:


jla-x

More fame = more outrage. Question is, is this a genuine concern for sexual assault, or a collective blood lust to see successful people fall/fail/exposed for being creeps? It’s sad that everyday people are not getting this much/any media coverage.

form follows gumption

Genuine concern is consistent across the board. The fake outrage is all about moral grandstanding.

jla-x: "Question is, is this a genuine concern for sexual assault, or a collective blood lust to see successful people fall/fail/exposed for being creeps?" Can't it be both? Why do you need to define everything as black or white?

JLC-1

just because you don't know, it doesn't mean it's not happening.

placebeyondthesplines_

and why does "outrage" over sexual misconduct bother you at all? seems to me to be exactly the right response.

tduds

Bullshit, Balkins. There are a lot of things that don't qualify as a crime that can still make one a shitty human being. The court of public opinion has a place, and sexual abuse / harassment - until our legal system catches up - is a societal issue, not just a criminal one.

SneakyPete

Balkburger, just shut up. You're not doing anyone any favors, least of all yourself.

placebeyondthesplines_

I KNEW he'd bring up "due process" sooner or later. goddamn Balkins, you are the fucking worst

tduds

A tree is also one step from lynching. But it very importantly isn't lynching.

jla-x

Donna, yes it can be both, and probably is for most people, but I find it sad that these cases get so much attention while I hear about even worse offenses against women, that are just a blip on the local news. This celebrity culture is feeding the problem imo...not saying I’m immune to it. I too pay more attention to the high profile cases...don’t really know why. Maybe a little more introspection is good. Just saying.

oneLOSTarchitect

me too!

Mar 14, 18 7:58 pm

Hippies in the desert = free love. Pretty much the opposite of a corporate office.


Mar 15, 18 8:03 am
wynne1architect@gmail.com

Paulo Soleri, is different! It was his daughter as I remember reading. 

Dick Meier, had earlier this year that warm, fuzzy press release about being a kindly old grandfather who spends most of his time at home painting water colors.

Mar 15, 18 9:07 am
tduds

Different? The fuck are you talking about?

placebeyondthesplines_

this thread is deeply depressing on many, many levels

SneakyPete

https://aap.cornell.edu/news-e...

Mar 15, 18 11:55 am
sameolddoctor
If I was at Meier's office I'd be putting my resume out like crazy. Watch it as clients begin to cut ties with the firm.
Mar 15, 18 2:33 pm
randomised

Fuck those complicit enablers.

randomised

By that I mean all the staff that knew about it, not the clients.

randomised

All the members of staff that were complicit and put unsuspecting new employees knowingly in situations where they were sexually harassed should also be investigated and prosecuted, enough already...

randomised

I know I shouldn't but okay:

"Conduct that was once acceptable is no longer acceptable."

It was never acceptable behaviour, that kind of behaviour was always wrong and everybody knows that, especially Richard Meier himself. Don't treat his age as an excuse, just because he's old doesn't make it right, it never was.
But also don't tell elderly people who to date, as if it is their decision and their decision alone, it takes two to tango. Also, don't tell younger people who to date or who not to date. If younger people consensually date older men OR women, who are you to interfere. Telling Meier to retire and save his name...you've got to be kidding, right? Too late for that, his name will forever be tarnished, his legacy destroyed and everyone who worked long enough at his office will have some serious explaining to do, rightfully so. Retirement is not a punishment either, let authorities and the legal system do their job.

citizen

...And it's an early Christmas for pbts_!

Non Sequitur

I'm replying to this potential dumpster fire so I can be made aware of it's progress via email notifications. Carry On RB, please enlighten us some more.

randomised

Sorry but you're wrong Rick, those men always knew they were doing something morally and totally wrong, they only were able to get away with it so could continue their behaviour. They didn't harass others because of all that free love and tree huggin' hippy crap but because nobody believed their victims who never could come forward, so they could simply keep on doing what they were doing.

placebeyondthesplines_

I feel genuine sympathy for the women with whom Balkins interacts in the real world

jla-x

Quick! Your blow up dolls are running away.

SneakyPete

Dude, you are profoundly disturbed.

placebeyondthesplines_

holy crap. the Balkins misogyny train is off the rails, choo fucking choo

placebeyondthesplines_

that’s right, future google searchers: this is the kind of mind at work you get when you hire Richard Balkins (aka Rick Balkins) of Astoria Building Design in Portland, Oregon. morbid curiosity is going to make you want to take a pretty deep dive into this maniac’s post history, but even if you don’t, just
know that his lunacy-riddled contributions to this thread are totally standard for him.

randomised

By the looks of it Rick, I don't think you're on twitter nor ever had to give an elevator pitch, could you maybe summarise your response(s), have a Dostoyevsky waiting ;)

b3tadine[sutures]

"What do queers know about heterosexual culture.(?)" You are a straight up fucking moron.

I never read the postings of R. Balkins, Esq. as the replies tell me more than I need to know. Which is that medication is required.

tintt

Intensive cognitive behavioral therapy is required. 24 hours a day intensive.

geezertect

Evelyn Woods Reading Dynamics

placebeyondthesplines_

i’m not sure deleting Richard Balkins’ aggressively misogynistic and ignorant comments is the way to go here, archinect

form follows gumption

First he gets added to the list. Then his comments get deleted? Absolutely pathet
ic.

b3tadine[sutures]

He was put in timeout, relax Francis. He's a fucking douchecanoe homophobic, misogynistic asshat. If the collective needs a break, then so be it.

form follows gumption

So the "right side of history" is all about personal attacks and pettiness? You're doing wonders for this movement. Bravo.

b3tadine[sutures]

Pettiness? Are you always this fucking dumb? His rampant homophobic and misogyny is why he got dealt with. You don't like it, move the fuck on.

b3tadine[sutures]

Also, for what it's worth, I'm the one who called out the assholes that added his name to the list. Aren't you paying attention?

placebeyondthesplines_

keep it coming, Balkins, may your well of stupidity never run dry

b3tadine[sutures]

I'm somewhat convinced you're a "man", but I am definitely convinced you still don't know what it's like to be a man.

tintt

I had nightmares about bathrobes last night.

Mar 15, 18 2:53 pm
Non Sequitur

Mine is Ralph Lauren and blue. Was it me?

citizen

Open or closed?

Non Sequitur

we have very large street-facing windows thus it's closed.

curtkram

well, there's one thing i don't have to worry about. i don't own a bathrobe.

citizen

What's the method to stop email notifications of thread responses again?  It used to be a link in the email, but no longer.

Mar 17, 18 1:29 pm
placebeyondthesplines_

this might be in my personal top ten of Balkins bullshit:

"I expect college graduates to be able to do this in 30 seconds."

let's just have a quick recap of Richard Balkins' educational accomplishments. from LinkedIn:

  • Clatsop Community College: associate's degreemicrocomputer programming and networking (yay! you finished this!)
  • Clatsop Community College: certificate computer aided design drafting (this too, yay! but an associate's and a certificate took you seven years?!?)
  • Clatsop Community College: no degree earned - historic preservation and restoration,
  • University of Oregon: no degree earned (though he says he's on track for a 2022 graduation??) - geography major, historic preservation minor

Balkins' qualifications/comments ratio is approaching zero and getting closer with every stupid wall of idiotic text he posts. it's a thing to behold.

Mar 17, 18 4:26 pm
jamesaleisterbarcelona

2011-2022? Going for 10 years to finish a four-year bachelor's degree? Damn.

b3tadine[sutures]

Catslop? Never heard of it.

b3tadine[sutures]

Listen, if you can't live near Catslop, you're not dedicated to being a design professional, you're a pretender.

placebeyondthesplines__

alternate explanation: you're just a stupid, stupid man (in addition to being an unrepentant misogynist and homophobe)

placebeyondthesplines__

just shut the fuck up and go away, Balkins. despite your best efforts to sound intelligent and accomplished, it's patently obvious that you're just a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. you're not an educated man, nor are you intelligent, accomplished, interesting, or decent. what you are is an artless asshole who couldn't string together two articulate sentences if your life depended on it. so kindly just fuck off.

jamesaleisterbarcelona

U.S. Federal enclaves (ie. Federal land): - Building Design/Architectural Services* ( Due to Federal jurisdiction is not subject to state-level laws & regulations including licensing regulations and that state laws/regulations may not have applicability to Federal employees and work of those contracted by Federal government to do work on Federal land especially those that are of sole Federal jurisdiction, Astoria Building Design, LLC. can offer full services under the Architect title and across the spectrum of project types in connection with Federal projects on Federal land without necessarily having to have a state-level license much as Astoria Building Design, LLC. has in some countries outside the U.S.)

What the actual f*ck. 

5839

If those are the only degrees he's listing these days then he's actually scaled back slightly on delusional exaggeration. He used to also list a future M.Arch from a specific university to which he's never even applied.

b3tadine[sutures]

The guy, who won't bother to travel five hours to get a BS, expects to get work from other countries? You know, you'll likely have to travel more than five hours, right? You hate women, you hate the LGBTQI community, and you hate yourself. You won't complete your degree[s], you're having too much fun being on the internet.

b3tadine[sutures]

Balskid from Catslop: "Male culture is the way it is. It is the male culture message when it comes to sexuality. Besides, what does queers know about heterosexual male culture? They are what the culture called "girlie men".... "women with dicks and no tits"." - Sounds like Balkins.

5839

He doesn't expect to get work from other countries. His theory is that if he's offering architectural services to North Sentinel Island for example, where there is no licensing required for architects, then he can advertise himself as an architect despite not being one in the US state where his office i

b3tadine[sutures]

It's okay Balkins From Catslop. You're done here.

placebeyondthesplines__

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Mar 17, 18 7:40 pm

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