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2010 M.Arch applicants, commiserate here!

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delirious

Here is mine.

Washington University in St. Louis In (? scholarship - learn via website package hasn't arrived yet)
University of Michigan at Ann Arbor In 2G program
Pratt In (6000$)
Harvard
MIT
Upenn
Cornell
Berkeley
Virginia Polytechnic
Syracuse

Since I am an international applicant, I can not apply for FAFSA and student loans. It seems like it is impossible to pay for this schools. Do you think it is possible to defer enrollment next year while keeping the opportunity? I would love to hear some suggestions.

Mar 16, 10 1:49 pm  · 
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liwennette

mmarch13, agreed :)

Mar 16, 10 1:49 pm  · 
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adrasteia

I wish Berkeley, Rice, MIT, and GSD would just hurry up with their rejections already!!

Mar 16, 10 1:49 pm  · 
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Living in Gin

UC sent their response via email. Funny thing is, OSU says they'll email their financial aid decision by April 9th, while UC wants me to confirm my enrollment by April 6th... Gotta love it.

Mar 16, 10 1:50 pm  · 
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mmarch13

i hate that BS...don't they know/care about the decisions/admissions dates of other schools???

ha i guess i already know the answer to that...a resounding NO, they probably don't care lol

Mar 16, 10 1:53 pm  · 
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mugged

mmarch13,

don't know if that was directed towards me or wiley or others, but im not trying to be negative in anyway and congrats to pult for getting into some of the top schools in the world.

I was more just curious as for why someone applies to that many schools. I applied to 7 which is a lot in my mind so Im just curious as to what the reasoning is to apply to almost double that.

Mar 16, 10 1:53 pm  · 
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Living in Gin

Yeah, it's a bit frustrating. Although at this point, OSU or UK would pretty much have to offer me a full ride to make it worth turning down UC and moving again.

Mar 16, 10 1:55 pm  · 
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passerby1ce

Congrats to everyone!! I wouldn't mind seeing your portfolio mmarch13. *wink* wink* nudge nudge. Do you have an arch undergrad?

Mar 16, 10 1:57 pm  · 
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mmarch13

no no...actually it was semi-directed towards wiley i guess...i just felt it bordered on rude...but i didn't mean it as a reprimand, just a friendly suggestion :)

i am curious about the wide range of schools some ppl apply to as well...but i totally understand the logic behind it...i actually did it myself, but on a smaller scale. sometimes you just want to keep your options as wide as possible. you never know who will reject/accept you...sometimes people end up with big surprises as far as that goes...

Mar 16, 10 1:58 pm  · 
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li dandan

i applied to 7 as well (i don't count my alma mater as a real application...) and i think that might have been too much.
It was really difficult to keep track of each schools' requirements and was insanely expensive (which was still lessened by my purchase of a brand new printer that was on sale... still a lot of $$$$ overall) so I couldn't imagine applying to more.

Then again, my first list of schools was around 25 which I whittled down. Maybe some people didn't want to whittle.

Mar 16, 10 1:58 pm  · 
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kelly peoples

ugh, sorry if my post was taken for animosity... i'm not trying to lessen the merits of those that were accepted into the 2 yr program at ohio state.

i knew that my scenario would happen before i applied there and discussed it with faculty in advance. some professors from my undergrad tried to get osu to change its policy toward our school last year to no avail. i think knowlton's an amazing program and still wanted to apply despite that fact.

and i am all for a diverse range of people applying to schools! the more philosophies the better.

mmarch13, i want to see your portfolio too!

Mar 16, 10 2:00 pm  · 
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mmarch13

yes, i actually do have a 5-yr b.arch undergrad. i'm currently in my final semester...SO eager to finish!!!...
and i will def try to post my portfolio as soon as midterms wind down...it's been HECTIC!! (yet i still somehow find time to check this website obsessively 25 times a day?) -- in my opinion, my portfolio is by no means outstanding like some of the ones other ppl have posted on here...but i guess i may have done something right... :)

Mar 16, 10 2:04 pm  · 
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soni

Any MArchIIs hear from UT Austin recently? (besides ncsu85)

Mar 16, 10 2:05 pm  · 
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nicholasbailey

I have heard from

UMich - in + $
Columbia - in
Harvard - ??
Princeton - Out
MIT - ??
SCI-ARC - ??
Berkeley - ??


anybody have any ideas when I might hear back from these?

Mar 16, 10 2:05 pm  · 
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bucku

i was going to wait until i heard back from some more, but...

columbia: in
pratt: in w/lots $

princeton: nope

sciarc: ?
cooper union:?

i applied to the post professional programs. and now i also wish i would have applied to more schools. its all good though. i went to columbia's summer program a few years ago and fell in love with it, so i suppose getting into my first choice is pretty good.

Mar 16, 10 2:06 pm  · 
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MArch4April

UW! In!!!!!! 1st choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 16, 10 2:08 pm  · 
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stuzzzzie

did you just get a call?! where are you from?

Mar 16, 10 2:12 pm  · 
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MArch4April

I'm in Seattle. Got the call 5 minutes ago. still shaking!!!

Mar 16, 10 2:13 pm  · 
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kelly peoples

MArch4April, BIG CONGRATS!! it's my #1 choice too... crossing my fingers...

Mar 16, 10 2:14 pm  · 
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stuzzzzie

congrats march4april. im in seattle as well, hopefully ill get some good news today.

Mar 16, 10 2:16 pm  · 
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jesskleinman

Great post villain. I'd also like to add the investment of time and energy you are about to make. I knew getting a BArch was going to be challenging, but little did I know how much so in terms of managing the non-architecture parts of my life.

Mar 16, 10 2:18 pm  · 
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jesskleinman

Great post villain. I'd also like to add the investment of time and energy you are about to make. I knew getting a BArch was going to be challenging, but little did I know how much so in terms of managing the non-architecture parts of my life.

Mar 16, 10 2:18 pm  · 
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jesskleinman

Great post villain. I'd also like to add the investment of time and energy you are about to make. I knew getting a BArch was going to be challenging, but little did I know how much so in terms of managing the non-architecture parts of my life.

Mar 16, 10 2:20 pm  · 
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jesskleinman

Great post villain. I'd also like to add the investment of time and energy you are about to make. I knew getting a BArch was going to be challenging, but little did I know how much so in terms of managing the non-architecture parts of my life.

Mar 16, 10 2:21 pm  · 
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jesskleinman

Great post villain. I'd also like to add the investment of time and energy you are about to make. I knew getting a BArch was going to be challenging, but little did I know how much so in terms of managing the non-architecture parts of my life.

Mar 16, 10 2:21 pm  · 
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st1tch

For those that received acceptances from UBC, are there any changes in your online application status?

Mar 16, 10 2:24 pm  · 
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keopi

hey kap1720 ..
just wondering because i'm not exactly super sure about the b.a. arch vs b.s. arch but i have a b.s. arch.
in my program we had environmental technology (several) and structures classes (several), doing calculations and things like that. architecture design studio every quarter. maybe that is the difference? we had history and theory classes too but maybe you had more than us?
i've met other b.a. arch students and it seemed like in their program (different school than mine) were more like fine arts/liberal arts seminars but doing some studio design also.

why would they have different titles of the degree if they weren't different?

Mar 16, 10 2:25 pm  · 
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MArch4April

Stuz and Kap-- crossing my fingers for you guys. Good luck!

Mar 16, 10 2:26 pm  · 
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jetreit

So I am guessing many have heard from Pratt by now and no word yet is probably not a good sign?! I don't know whether that was a question or just an exclamation of sorrow. Ugh, it would have been nice.

Mar 16, 10 2:26 pm  · 
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li dandan

keopi,
i have a bachelors of design in architecture. which makes it even more confusing. the basic difference is the curriculum and program required for the schools to receive NAAB accreditation for whatever program (usually a masters if they have a ba bs or bdes). There's even a difference on what is required for a "school" "department" or "college" of architecture. And they all have different terms for review, and different lengths of programs they can offer, blah blah blah.

it's a load of crap, if you ask me.

Mar 16, 10 2:33 pm  · 
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kelly peoples

keopi, that's along the lines of the response i was given from faculty in terms of their perceived differences between the two degrees. i didn't take advanced structures because i didn't have time due to my minor, but i did take structures I, statics and similar courses. they probably were not to the same extent that you did. we had plenty of history and theory courses and i can petition out of a lot of them if i were to go there: it'd just be a big mess of paperwork. the main killer is that i still need all the studios, so i'd be there for three years in spite of that. i'm thrilled to be accepted and would love to have the opportunity to attend. it's just weird in that most other schools allow entry into 2 yr programs if you already have an accredited architectural degree regardless, perhaps with the condition that you fulfill physics or missing courses in the summer. i would totally understand if i had a related degree that wasn't architecture and i was placed in the three year program then.

it's all relative. i knew that stipulation beforehand. it hasn't been enough to prevent classmates from going there and they've had nothing but praise for the program! if i had infinite resources, it would not bother me at all. but unfortunately, money is a BIG issue for me.

li dandan, i agree! total crap. my program has the same accreditation as ohio state's, and if the NAAB doesn't care then why should they? (okay, maybe they should... but if i'm willing to take the physics or science courses to make up for my shortcomings, then what's the big deal?! do i really need to go there for another year?!)

Mar 16, 10 2:50 pm  · 
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tecture

got into RISD with 12k and + fellowship!!! thanks Chris Bardt for that mazing amazing phone call!

Mar 16, 10 2:52 pm  · 
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Pult

I applied to 12 schools because I couldn't assess my chances of getting in anywhere, period. And I didn't know what kind of school I would match with, so I selected a wider variety. I would blame that on ignorance and I guess I could have been more efficient, but better safe than sorry.

Mar 16, 10 2:52 pm  · 
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mrppm3

Hello everyone,

I was hoping I could get a little feedback on my portfolio. I applied to 8 schools this year, none of which were ivy's (or even close) and have already been rejected by most. If I have it in me, I would like to reapply next year. But before I do, I need to figure out what I can do to improve my portfolio. Any feedback would be great.

http://issuu.com/mrppm3/docs/pdf_iaac_portfolio2

oh and I have a 4yr B.S. Arch

thanks!

Mar 16, 10 2:59 pm  · 
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Atty

jetreit...same boat as you with Pratt...sucks!

Mar 16, 10 3:11 pm  · 
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alexstitt

Right off the bat, I'd say find a different font. I really like your first project, I would take some of the furniture out of your renderings, focus more on the process, and draw that one out. Some of your other projects seem to be a bit busy with the rendering materials, which can make it kind of cartoonish looking. I know it's cliche, but when I tend to hit the too much materiality threshold, I will bring the saturation down a lot via photoshop (sometimes to b&w). Overall, I do appreciate the graphic clarity the portfolio has. And, personally, I wouldn't include models other people's buildings.

Mar 16, 10 3:11 pm  · 
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MountainBoy

mrppm3.... Your projects look fine in terms of the creation of interesting spaces and forms. What you need to embellish more on is the progress of how you got from point a to point b. Architects love diagrams and sketches exhibiting this.

Addotional points:
- Dont be scared to use more white space. It can help with your clutter problem and add emphasis. Allwo your deigns to breathe.
- I dont like the font with all caps, or the center allignment
-Its a graphic design exercise so study magazine layouts that you find interesting.
- include dates and project info(site, for class?, for work?_
- a table of contents would be beneficial.
- I would stay away from the words problem and solution, because its not really.

Other than that the work looks great. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Mar 16, 10 3:13 pm  · 
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MountainBoy

mrppm3.... Your projects look fine in terms of the creation of interesting spaces and forms. What you need to embellish more on is the progress of how you got from point a to point b. Architects love diagrams and sketches exhibiting this.

Addotional points:
- Dont be scared to use more white space. It can help with your clutter problem and add emphasis. Allwo your deigns to breathe.
- I dont like the font with all caps, or the center allignment
-Its a graphic design exercise so study magazine layouts that you find interesting.
- include dates and project info(site, for class?, for work?_
- a table of contents would be beneficial.
- I would stay away from the words problem and solution, because its not really.

Other than that the work looks great. Hope this helps.

Cheers

Mar 16, 10 3:16 pm  · 
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Hellas

mrppm3

some quick suggestions?

put more people in the renders.
the drawings and model at the end are really good, maybe take out some of the renders (which start to get a bit samey after a while) and bring the drawings forward a bit.
Personally, i'm not sure about that font and the centered text-in terms of graphic design, it looks quite basic. Maybe get some good quality design magazines and look at how they lay out text/images.

There is absolutely no reason for you to listen to me, and I am not suggesting I am right in any way, it's just those are some of the things I would do differently if you told me to redesign it tomorrow...i'll put my portfolio on here soon as well so you can rip into it...

Mar 16, 10 3:18 pm  · 
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jetreit

atty>
amen

Mar 16, 10 3:19 pm  · 
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MountainBoy

oops sorry about the double post....

Mar 16, 10 3:19 pm  · 
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VuONG

mrppm3

Hmm i think your portfolio doesn't show your way of thinking enough.


Anyone can generate a digital image. Not everyone can critically think.

Show how you arrived at your form/functional conclusions.

Other notes:

- White Space is your friend
- BIG BLACK text does not make your portfolio better. Better to have small white text.
- Short descriptions?
- Media Used?

the major key to your perceived failure is lack of thought process. DIAGRAMS!! DIAGRAMS!!

Mar 16, 10 3:21 pm  · 
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VuONG

ps. my stats.

Background:
BS. LARC

UCLA - IN
UMICH - IN + $$
CAL - ??
UPENN - ??

i think i should of applied to MIT, and YALE....

but during the application process my hard drive fried and i had to scramble everything together last minute and i didn't have enough time to fill out those applications...

i feel a little regret...

Mar 16, 10 3:26 pm  · 
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waqas

mrppm3, I think your architecture is compelling. I would make the presentation more crisp (change the font to something more direct, like Arial, or Helvetica, or Trade Gothic) and the writing more direct, and I would remove some of the artwork that detracts from the architectural forms and drawings, your real strength as I perceive it. Look at yunez's portfolio, an excellent example of considered graphic design (it is on page 6, I think).

Mar 16, 10 3:27 pm  · 
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ncro54

Hi, First post:

I'm getting increasingly agitated about Berkeley. Those gradcafe posts seem real, now that the rejected w/scholarship person corrected their mistake.

My background:
BA in Studio Art- mainly did sculpture. Did UC Berkeley's Summer [in] Arch (I had Keith, Bird).

Applied to:
UC Berkeley-- ??
CCA -- in w/ $10,000 merit
Pratt -- in
Columbia -- no
UPenn -- ??
SAIC -- in

School of the Art Institute of Chicago is a candidate for accreditation by NAAB, due to be accredited 2010-11. I'm visiting to see if I LOVE it, but the accreditation thing scares me, especially because it's such a new program. Though, Chicago would be great.

Mar 16, 10 3:28 pm  · 
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nicholasbailey

Who is planning on attending the open house at UMich on the 26-27th of March?

Mar 16, 10 3:29 pm  · 
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mugged

mrppm3

I would agree with pretty much everything that has been said so far. I am also not sure about the text.

As others have said white space is your friend. I would look at some current architecture firms or the work of the schools you want to attend and see how they diagram and showcase their designs and for good graphic techniques.

In the first project the most intriguing image you have shown are the sections and elevations which unfortunately are the smallest of the images.

Dont be afraid to show plans and sections and elevations, hand-drawings, diagrams, etc...

I think the advice from everyone else on here is good though.

Mar 16, 10 3:29 pm  · 
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tyMArchII

mrppm3

I agree with comments above.

You have over 100 rendered images and only 5 people in your portfolio. Adding scale people to your renders (and sections) will help them look more inviting. Throw a party up in one of your spaces and see if that helps.

Also, show context. It will make your projects seem much less generic.

You have hand drawings, but not many of architecture or showing process. I find the drawings at the end are a weak ending point; almost an after-thought.

Finally, if you are going to render material, make it because the material is really important to your project.

Overall I think the projects are good, maybe just edit the format some.

Mar 16, 10 3:31 pm  · 
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word2bird

i'm attending the u of mich open house. i believe the villain and mugged are too... there are few of us attending, actually.

Mar 16, 10 3:31 pm  · 
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mugged

nicholasbailey,

I will most likely be at the UMich open house. How about yourself?

Mar 16, 10 3:32 pm  · 
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