simon and garfarkal trivia well actually trivia...
laurie bird who played "the girl" in the cult classic "two lane blacktop" was later garfarkals girlfriend. and while his girlfren, she committed suicide at the age of 26. the movie is cursed, as of the four lead actors, bird is dead, warren oates is dead, dennis wilson(of the beach boys) is dead and many people who have heard james taylor's music lately, would swear he's dead too...
actually the first album i ever bought was "mudslide slim and the blue horizon" by james taylor....the second was jethro tull's aqualung...snot is running down his nose!!!
I finally downloaded two of Sufjan's songs off illinois (legally I might add from amazon) casimir pulaski day & man of metropolis. I am officially obsessed with these two songs.
My question, does the rest of the CD hold up to the back to back to back to back to back playings? Especially considering I'll most likely have to pay full price.
Also, I have heard a small amount of Madeline Peyroux, could be very good, anyone comment on her stuff?
in a perfect world where grammy awards were actually given to people with real talent that contributed more than a top selling cd to the lexicon of music, sufjan stevens would have won the award for album of the year for illinoise.
yes, it is that good.
i can only hope that the other 48 states yet to come are as enjoyable.
Sufjan does have a new album coming out with Rosie Thomas, not another in the 50 states series though. And on July 25th there is an "outtakes and extras" from Illnoise coming out. It has 21 tracks so it should be enough to tide us all over until the new album comes out.
My favorite online radio station is 89.9 KCRW out of Santa Monica, they also have a great bunch of archived live performance on there website. Here are some of my favorites!
I've been avoiding posting here since there's too much I'd want to talk about.
breifly:
huge sufjan fan. I'm from the area, and actually remember the release of his cd with his old band, marzuki. it's been interesting watching him develop. I breifly thought I had a gold mine in my hands when the cease and desist went out over the superman cover of illinois (I bought it early)
j's comment about people liking obscure stuff just because it's obscure:
while I don't agree completely, I think there's something to this, and I don't think it's a bad thing. With obscure stuff, for the most part you only listen to it when you're in the mood. Popular stuff you hear in stores, resturants, in commercials, anywhere someone has a radio on... So even though you may like the band or song, constantly hearing it when you're not in the mood to starts to wear on you.
I remember being entralled with mmouse's Good news... but then it got famous, I heard it in a bunch of places when I wasn't in the mood to, and I just got sick of it.
I'd also be down for a cd club. even if I have to upgrade my flac RAID5 array early.
someone mentioned madeline peyroux: good stuff, but it feels a little weird to me (new, pristine digital recording of someone trying to sing 40's jazz). I'm also more of a folky type, so more often I tend to go for sophie zelmani or over the rhine when I'm in the mood for something like that (amazing female singer who's kinda mellow and sexy at the same time)
I was kinda disappointed with the new flaming lips. just doesn't draw me in like the older stuff. I'm going to have to give it a few more listens.
Over the Rhine is a Cincinnati act but i'm new enough to the area to only be familiar with a hanful of their songs. Though there was a month or two I listened to the 2 songs I had off drunkards prayer about every night as I fell asleep. nice emotional stuff.
I also have issues with anything or anyone that is liked because it is different or 'indie' and not because it is good. However, i think these independents tend to be more of the artist type rather than the entertainer type, have a greater passion for their project (rather than product, see also the developer thread), and as such earn more respect from us non top 40 people.
a cd i made for the birthday girl recently...
weekends-the perishers
there goes the sun-the perniece bros.
death of an interior decorator-dcfc
anybody wanna take me home-ryan adams
we gotta get you a woman-todd
caring is creepy-the shins
chealsea hotel numero duo-lenny cohen
the ghost in you-p furs
little wing- james marshall hendrix
everybody here wants you-jeff buckley
take off your cool- outkast
life on mars-the guy from life aquatic
dance me to the end of love- madelaine peyroux
dancing with the women at the bar-whiskeytown
memory motel-le rolling stones
are you down-lucinda
one by one-wilco
save it for a rainy day-jayhawks
ooh child-beth orton
For the internet radio thing (and the cd club): Radio David Byrne is worth checking out every once and awhile. Its usually about an hour loop updated every month or so.
I also liten to KCRW frequently
i love the Swans, Einsterzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Muslimgauze, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Download, Aphex Twin.......i could go on....
Bloc Party
Alex Under
Roots Manuva
Swayzak
Markus Guentner
Kaito
Nightmares on Wax
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Jel
Black Keys
Spoon
Aqueduct
Pepito
American Analog Set
The Orb
SCSI-9
this heat. Right on. ReR is rereleaaing their entire catalogue (blue and yellow has already been released!)
and in that vein:
laddio bolocko
psychic paramount
for a list that caters to architects and architectural academics, I find it odd that everyone seems to listen to the vapid pulp that is pushed by "indie" outfits like pitchfork.
we constantly bemaon the public that does not take the time to understand the rigor that we all practice.....but when we dip our toes into other "artisitc" waters we follow the lead. I'm not knocking all things "indie"......there are some great things going on, but it seems like the majority of this list is wearing hipster blinders.
there are a lot of ideas in music/sound/noise.........ideas that can inform architectural thought.
please get over your humps.......your humps, your humps, your humps.
cotd, in earnest, what vapid pulp is pushed by pitchfork? I don't read the mag and would like some examples.
As to other artistic waters, I was thinking about this based on a comment earlier this thread. I had mentioned wanting to know more about Madeline Peyroux's music. Someone mentioned that, while good, it seemed odd; her recreating sounds of 60 years ago.
Got me thinking, while I find architecturally offensive the thoughtless faux reproduction last century's norms, I am ok with a similar perversions of music?
However, were someone to thoughtfully, actually, reproduce the same building, I doubt I would have the same disdain. Despite the amount and various types of music I listen to (i'm a cad monkey), I am yet uneducated about the nuts and bolts of what makes music go together. Now, is Madeline Peyroux (for example) thoughtless faux, or the real thing reincarnate? If addressed appropriately, is it ok to be a throwback?
keep this stuff secret (or at least rekindle one of the old "what music are you listening to" threads) as you don't want to ruin the mystery of the mix.
it is ok to like whatever you like. I happen to like some Madeline Peyroux (in a small ammount).
What rubs me the wrong way is all this jumping on J for liking some incredibly mainstream music, while everyone else seems to listen to the same rotation.
For example - very easy links to architects.....
Ryoji Ikeda works with sound and perception. He has worked on many installations with Toyo Ito. He has many cds released as well as a new DVD.
or how about Corb working with Iannis Xenakis on his compositions. Surely if corb thought there was a link between music and architecture, we can all agree there just might be.
another favorite.......Maryanne Amacher. She has studied the inner ear and discovered that we all creative reactive sounds to certain frequencies. She has harnessed these in her music......so while listening to her music you physically feel music coming from your ears as opposed to going in.
How about Alvin Lucier. he has been experimenting with sound, perception, and space for decades...........all of his music has very direct implications on space!
beyond the highbrow/compostional there is just way more music out there than recognized by this post. I dont care why you listen to music, whether it is to wake you up, put you to sleep, scare your parents, cry over your sad breakfast, shake your ass............or to generate ideas. But how about some variety out there!
my list (alphabetical selection from the ipod)
Alexander Tucker
Alog
Alva Noto
Andrew Chalk
Burning Star Core
Cannibal Ox
Cass McCombs
Charlemagne Palestine
Chrome
Conlon Nancarrow
Cornelius Cardew
Darren Tate
Eliane Radigue
Excepter
The Fall
Francis Plagne
Goldmund
Growing
The Hafler Trio
Huggy Bear
Jackson C. Frank
Jean-Luc Herelle
Johnny Horton
Khonnor
La Monte Young
Lightning Bolt
Loren Conners
Magma
Mapstation
Michael YonkersMichele Bokanowski
Mike Fakesch
Mirrir
Morton Feldman
Nurse with wound
Omit
Paavoharju
Phonophani
Residual Echoes
Robert Lippok
Robert Wyatt
Shining
The Slits
Slomo
Sonic Youth
Talking Heads
This Heat
Tujiko Noriko
Vibracathedral Orchestra
Warmer Milks
Wire
Yacht Club
I'm not saying all the music mentioned is bad (I have even re-mentioned some) but some variety would be nice.
and also......why would you not have disdain for someone who thoughtfully recreated the same buiding.........doesn't everyone have disdain for Phillip Johnson for that very reason.
current cd obsessions
damn, i am the only country boy in the group i guess.
lately listening to the tribute album to johhny cash. lovin dwight yoakam.
also enjoyin jeff buckley livee/bootleg, john mayall's blues for the lost days, and random crash test dummies stuff...
simon and garfarkal trivia well actually trivia...
laurie bird who played "the girl" in the cult classic "two lane blacktop" was later garfarkals girlfriend. and while his girlfren, she committed suicide at the age of 26. the movie is cursed, as of the four lead actors, bird is dead, warren oates is dead, dennis wilson(of the beach boys) is dead and many people who have heard james taylor's music lately, would swear he's dead too...
lol. poor jimmie taylor.
speaking of the beach boys, pet sounds is still one of the best albums ever made.
actually the first album i ever bought was "mudslide slim and the blue horizon" by james taylor....the second was jethro tull's aqualung...snot is running down his nose!!!
Okkervil River is pretty damn good
damn I thought cd were construction documents - I'm so lame
Sufjan Stevens! But what would Frank Lloyd Wright say?
New Belle & Sebastian is good too. Had to sell my tickets to their recent show at the Riv in Chicago. Heard it was good.
Morrissey's "Ringleader of the Tormentors" & Cat Power's "The Greatest."
ramsey, you are my archinect hero! architect promotion for you!
dave gilmour - on the island ..
all floyd fans will really love this ..
The Dandy Warhols - Odditorium or Warlords of Mars
J-
I'm with you with the DMB and Zep. Architects need stop being so afraid of the cheese.
he's always been dead.
tull. this was. not bad.
mayall's was/were country?
I finally downloaded two of Sufjan's songs off illinois (legally I might add from amazon) casimir pulaski day & man of metropolis. I am officially obsessed with these two songs.
My question, does the rest of the CD hold up to the back to back to back to back to back playings? Especially considering I'll most likely have to pay full price.
Also, I have heard a small amount of Madeline Peyroux, could be very good, anyone comment on her stuff?
just got the new Flaming Lips Cd last week-At War with the Mystics pretty good 3.5/5
also-sufjan stevens was huge surprise for me-C'mon feel the Illinoise
4.5/5
Autolux-Future Perfect has grown on me more & more-saw them live on the NIN with teeth tour-4/5 (a much more comprehensible My bloody valentine)
in a perfect world where grammy awards were actually given to people with real talent that contributed more than a top selling cd to the lexicon of music, sufjan stevens would have won the award for album of the year for illinoise.
yes, it is that good.
i can only hope that the other 48 states yet to come are as enjoyable.
though at the rate he's going, I think he'll finish sometime shortly after the apocolypse.
near the end, his albums will only be 6 songs with them all being less than a minute long...
as of very late and very often:
autechre - untilted
violent femmes - violent femmes
magnetic fields - holiday
beethoven - emperor's concerto
Sufjan does have a new album coming out with Rosie Thomas, not another in the 50 states series though. And on July 25th there is an "outtakes and extras" from Illnoise coming out. It has 21 tracks so it should be enough to tide us all over until the new album comes out.
My favorite online radio station is 89.9 KCRW out of Santa Monica, they also have a great bunch of archived live performance on there website. Here are some of my favorites!
89.9KCRW
thieveryCORPORATION
sufjanSTEVENS
feist
leTIGRE
theSHINS
the88
try this link if you want to see theirvery corp.
thieveryCORPORATION
you might need Real Player to watch and listen
Steven Ward.
I like the CD club idea. I think an archinect one would be great. Anyone interested?
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This Heat "This Heat"
...sorry
cant stop listening to radio paradise
I've been avoiding posting here since there's too much I'd want to talk about.
breifly:
huge sufjan fan. I'm from the area, and actually remember the release of his cd with his old band, marzuki. it's been interesting watching him develop. I breifly thought I had a gold mine in my hands when the cease and desist went out over the superman cover of illinois (I bought it early)
j's comment about people liking obscure stuff just because it's obscure:
while I don't agree completely, I think there's something to this, and I don't think it's a bad thing. With obscure stuff, for the most part you only listen to it when you're in the mood. Popular stuff you hear in stores, resturants, in commercials, anywhere someone has a radio on... So even though you may like the band or song, constantly hearing it when you're not in the mood to starts to wear on you.
I remember being entralled with mmouse's Good news... but then it got famous, I heard it in a bunch of places when I wasn't in the mood to, and I just got sick of it.
also: try pandora
I'd also be down for a cd club. even if I have to upgrade my flac RAID5 array early.
someone mentioned madeline peyroux: good stuff, but it feels a little weird to me (new, pristine digital recording of someone trying to sing 40's jazz). I'm also more of a folky type, so more often I tend to go for sophie zelmani or over the rhine when I'm in the mood for something like that (amazing female singer who's kinda mellow and sexy at the same time)
I was kinda disappointed with the new flaming lips. just doesn't draw me in like the older stuff. I'm going to have to give it a few more listens.
Manama, started a new thread for the cd swap, check it out!
Over the Rhine is a Cincinnati act but i'm new enough to the area to only be familiar with a hanful of their songs. Though there was a month or two I listened to the 2 songs I had off drunkards prayer about every night as I fell asleep. nice emotional stuff.
I also have issues with anything or anyone that is liked because it is different or 'indie' and not because it is good. However, i think these independents tend to be more of the artist type rather than the entertainer type, have a greater passion for their project (rather than product, see also the developer thread), and as such earn more respect from us non top 40 people.
drunkard's prayer was OK, but I certainly wouldn't call it their best. Films for radio and good dog bad dog are my favorites from them.
check out sophie zelmani, she's AMAIZING if you like folky-jazzy females
a cd i made for the birthday girl recently...
weekends-the perishers
there goes the sun-the perniece bros.
death of an interior decorator-dcfc
anybody wanna take me home-ryan adams
we gotta get you a woman-todd
caring is creepy-the shins
chealsea hotel numero duo-lenny cohen
the ghost in you-p furs
little wing- james marshall hendrix
everybody here wants you-jeff buckley
take off your cool- outkast
life on mars-the guy from life aquatic
dance me to the end of love- madelaine peyroux
dancing with the women at the bar-whiskeytown
memory motel-le rolling stones
are you down-lucinda
one by one-wilco
save it for a rainy day-jayhawks
ooh child-beth orton
i like makin cd's. i dont know if i can handle the pressure of a cd club...will it have themes?like the iron chef? do i have to speak japanese???
Internet streaming:
- Groove Salad
- Digitally Imported
For the internet radio thing (and the cd club):
Radio David Byrne is worth checking out every once and awhile. Its usually about an hour loop updated every month or so.
I also liten to KCRW frequently
the decemberists
they're great. anyone heard of them?
DEATH FROM ABOVE 1979 -
i'm suprised that there is so little techno/electronic/etc on this list (outside random mentions of AFX, Autechre, Postal Service...).
wondering if i'm too literal. i'm in love with music that sounds like the architecture i like - german, scandinavian, south american, etc.
hmm. am i crazy here?
and here i dreamt i was an architect...
good job randar82 ;) good song as well.
i love the Swans, Einsterzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Muslimgauze, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Download, Aphex Twin.......i could go on....
today it'll be buddy guy: damn right i got the blues.
Bloc Party
Alex Under
Roots Manuva
Swayzak
Markus Guentner
Kaito
Nightmares on Wax
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Jel
Black Keys
Spoon
Aqueduct
Pepito
American Analog Set
The Orb
SCSI-9
Ok, so I undulged at the independent music store last night.
Sufjan Stevens - Come on feel the Illinoise
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - the Boatman's Call
Son Volt - Trace
Cat Power - What Would the Community Think
fell asleep to Cat Power last night, woke up to Sufjan this morning.
a-f..........
this heat. Right on. ReR is rereleaaing their entire catalogue (blue and yellow has already been released!)
and in that vein:
laddio bolocko
psychic paramount
for a list that caters to architects and architectural academics, I find it odd that everyone seems to listen to the vapid pulp that is pushed by "indie" outfits like pitchfork.
we constantly bemaon the public that does not take the time to understand the rigor that we all practice.....but when we dip our toes into other "artisitc" waters we follow the lead. I'm not knocking all things "indie"......there are some great things going on, but it seems like the majority of this list is wearing hipster blinders.
there are a lot of ideas in music/sound/noise.........ideas that can inform architectural thought.
please get over your humps.......your humps, your humps, your humps.
I'm happy about these albums now:
Smog - A River Ain't Too Much to Love
Electrelane - The Power Out
Joanna Newsom - The Milk Eyed Mender
Huskey Rescue - County Falls
cotd, in earnest, what vapid pulp is pushed by pitchfork? I don't read the mag and would like some examples.
As to other artistic waters, I was thinking about this based on a comment earlier this thread. I had mentioned wanting to know more about Madeline Peyroux's music. Someone mentioned that, while good, it seemed odd; her recreating sounds of 60 years ago.
Got me thinking, while I find architecturally offensive the thoughtless faux reproduction last century's norms, I am ok with a similar perversions of music?
However, were someone to thoughtfully, actually, reproduce the same building, I doubt I would have the same disdain. Despite the amount and various types of music I listen to (i'm a cad monkey), I am yet uneducated about the nuts and bolts of what makes music go together. Now, is Madeline Peyroux (for example) thoughtless faux, or the real thing reincarnate? If addressed appropriately, is it ok to be a throwback?
keep this stuff secret (or at least rekindle one of the old "what music are you listening to" threads) as you don't want to ruin the mystery of the mix.
hahaha! I'm an ass... thought this was the mix CD thread... carry on!
superheavy........
it is ok to like whatever you like. I happen to like some Madeline Peyroux (in a small ammount).
What rubs me the wrong way is all this jumping on J for liking some incredibly mainstream music, while everyone else seems to listen to the same rotation.
For example - very easy links to architects.....
Ryoji Ikeda works with sound and perception. He has worked on many installations with Toyo Ito. He has many cds released as well as a new DVD.
or how about Corb working with Iannis Xenakis on his compositions. Surely if corb thought there was a link between music and architecture, we can all agree there just might be.
another favorite.......Maryanne Amacher. She has studied the inner ear and discovered that we all creative reactive sounds to certain frequencies. She has harnessed these in her music......so while listening to her music you physically feel music coming from your ears as opposed to going in.
How about Alvin Lucier. he has been experimenting with sound, perception, and space for decades...........all of his music has very direct implications on space!
beyond the highbrow/compostional there is just way more music out there than recognized by this post. I dont care why you listen to music, whether it is to wake you up, put you to sleep, scare your parents, cry over your sad breakfast, shake your ass............or to generate ideas. But how about some variety out there!
my list (alphabetical selection from the ipod)
Alexander Tucker
Alog
Alva Noto
Andrew Chalk
Burning Star Core
Cannibal Ox
Cass McCombs
Charlemagne Palestine
Chrome
Conlon Nancarrow
Cornelius Cardew
Darren Tate
Eliane Radigue
Excepter
The Fall
Francis Plagne
Goldmund
Growing
The Hafler Trio
Huggy Bear
Jackson C. Frank
Jean-Luc Herelle
Johnny Horton
Khonnor
La Monte Young
Lightning Bolt
Loren Conners
Magma
Mapstation
Michael YonkersMichele Bokanowski
Mike Fakesch
Mirrir
Morton Feldman
Nurse with wound
Omit
Paavoharju
Phonophani
Residual Echoes
Robert Lippok
Robert Wyatt
Shining
The Slits
Slomo
Sonic Youth
Talking Heads
This Heat
Tujiko Noriko
Vibracathedral Orchestra
Warmer Milks
Wire
Yacht Club
I'm not saying all the music mentioned is bad (I have even re-mentioned some) but some variety would be nice.
and also......why would you not have disdain for someone who thoughtfully recreated the same buiding.........doesn't everyone have disdain for Phillip Johnson for that very reason.
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