Never been there. I take it you had a good time. ;)

Got any pics!?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CULw6VeFlDR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Nice photos! Glad you enjoyed it.

Here's my smiling face about 1000' up a summit hike.

Damn cool Josh. Also - looking damn good man!

I HATE that.

wouldn't mind actually seeing that

I keep getting the 'we've looked at your experience and think you'd be a great fit for this local firm' I'm then shown a bunch of jobs for people in the 4-6 year or 25+ year experience range.  In Nebraska.  

I'm in Colorado. 

Seeing the email or seeing the resumes? Here's the email ...

Hi [Everyday Architect],

I am reaching out because I placed a Project Manager at a client this morning and during my search I interviewed a few highly qualified individuals that are starting to look for a new opportunity. Each one of these candidates has a proven track record and are just now entering the market for a new home.

That being said [EA], would you or someone else at [Firm Name] be interested in taking a look at one of these resumes? Keep in mind, my service is 100% free until you hire one of my candidates.

Please let me know if you would like to review a resume of one of these candidates.

Thank you,
[Name]
Principal Recruiter

that is definitely not our "elusive" range... 10-15 seems the tough spot for us

I've got 15ish years experience so I guess I'm 'elusive'. :)

Same for me. Not all articles, and not all comments, but yes there appear to be some that are not showing.

On the subway article that's probably me. Some jackass said he wouldn't miss the subway and I let him have it.

lol, I almost made a joke about it being Miles' comments that were being removed but decided against it.

Miles, did you also make comments on the AECOM & NASA and the Obama Presidential Center articles?

Nope. Plenty to say about BO but I held my tongue.

Yeah, something weird is going on with News comments. I just had to block a spammer, and the BO Library thread supposedly has 3 comments but I don't see any, AND I have randomized set to ignore but I'm seeing their posts. Some wires crossed somewhere!

not at the met so far

Well, it got worse, two hours later.

I'm guessing Kanye wasn't available?

He's doing community outreach for the program.

That tower just looks off to me, like not enough. Makes me think the GC poured foundations, ordered the bridge short, and convinced the arch to go through a VE exercise from hell to get the building to slowly lean enough to reach the short bridge.

That’s exactly why I like that building!

I’m so hangry.

If you eat you'll have a really shitty colonoscopy.

is Bourbon allowed?

Bourbon *should* be allowed because it’s a clear liquid, but the rules include No Alcohol. Sucks.

"If your bourbon is clear... you might not be drinking bourbon"

-Ghandi.

Boooo!

“Clear” meaning transparent, not opaque.

Good luck tomorrow, Donna. As inconvenient as it is, it's nice to have it all done for ten years. Fun fact: if you prep properly and completely empty out, anyone standing next to you can hear the ocean! ;O]

I hope it went well! I had my first colonscopy a few months ago. Started early (47) due to family history. Everyone complains about the prep but I didn't find it bad at all. Guess I was lucky.

My only request at every step of the way was that my mom has a bad reaction to fentanyl, their typical sedative, and we tend to have similar physiology so I didn't want that one. Everyone said no problem--literally like six different people at different stages. Until they were about to put the gas mask on and told me I was getting fentanyl. I sat up and said I was not comfortable proceeding, even though the surgeon was there and ready to start. I hate the health care system and how they shuffle people through like we don't matter, versus providing a service, which is their actual role. So I had no problems with leaving. They scrambled and with just an hour delay they managed to find an anesthesiologist who could administer a non-fentanyl sedative (I forget the name) and everything proceeded as normal.

The follow-up was that it was good that I went--they had to remove a few polyps--and that although my insurance would cover a screening, because they found polyps it became a procedure which is not covered. So I have a $4,000 bill for the day. Could be worse, but the US medical system is terrible, especially in a state like mine where there are far from enough doctors.

Wood Guy, good job sticking to your guns. Passivity is a scourge amongst the majority of great people I know, only the pricks seem to be comfortable having an active point of view.

so looking for growths is covered, but finding them isn't...

nevermind.

Glad you worked it out, Orhan!

For the news items on the main page, the comments are all over the place (says 2, but there's only one comment; says 1, but there are none on any that I clicked on). Something afoot deep in the bowels of archinect, maybe?

yeah i am still seeing some news items that indicate 1 or more comments, but none are visible

Go snag a lottery ticket.

Whoa I would never make a deadline on a Friday. That would have been a Thursday, noon thing. You're tempting fate! Glad it worked out.

It's a small 4,000 SF building and they requested the Friday deadline to give themselves more time - that they apparently didn't need.

WOOHOO!

PM on my job (PA this time for me) set Friday at 5 for the 50% deadline set. Oct 8 and 11th are the school's fall break days, so I needed everyone on site verifying scope and plans of attack. The existing set we were provided was scant. I tried to help by reminding everyone it was just a 50% and asking them to print sometime around Wednesday, get the sheets uploaded to ACC for use onsite and have a 3PM thurs meeting to go over plan of attack. PM thought it best that everyone reprint on Friday to capture any extra work. TL:DR, she was in office until 8:30 PM collating, catching serious flaws, reprinting herself. I didn't get involved, left the school site around 4ish and went home. I only feel slightly guilty.

Depends on which end of the machine you're on. I'm sure the partners are guiltlessly enjoying the big payday they just elected for themselves.

of course they are, I just don't understand the greed. my bad. I don't think it depends on which end you are, you are still owned by a corp. whose only purpose is to increase profit. I dunno, I would guess quality and level of service would suffer under bean counters.

Boutique firms sweat out every detail. Corporate firms sweat out every penny.

I didn't realize that Foster and Partners was 1500 people! That's huge!!!! 

For comparison, I think Perkins and Will is owned by the Saudis. Gensler is employee/ Gensler family owned. SOM is owned by the partners.

I'm not surprised given the trend of the larger firms to end up being bought by conglomerates. Callison RTKL is owned by Arcadis I think. Gensler and SOM are probably the outliers on firms that size.

Yeah I was wondering about HOK, IA, HDR, some of the other big ones? I feel like there's also some giant firms in Japan.

foster sold shares to PE back before the financial crisis. he is a shrewd businessman. HOK got in trouble decades ago selling a large stake to a construction consortium. callison was owned by a PE group before selling to arcadis. its fairly common in larger firms - at some point they are too big for anyone in the industry to buy, too expensive for associates to buy in, and partners still want their payout.

also, foster made his name designing buildings for money machines. why wouldn't he be comfortable working among them?

ref for the 2007 sale, which they bought back. presumably helped FP keep going through the financial crisis. the new sale is different - clearly an exit for foster and the most senior partners who are plenty old enough to retire https://www.3i.com/media-centre/corporate-and-portfolio-news/2014/3i-to-make-a-18x-return-on-the-sale-of-its-minority-stake-in-foster-plus-partners/

Fuck late stage capitalism. Just die already so we can face reality without the protection of our social media addiction.

So CAD is a tube of anal lubricant?

I think the idea of CAD was to replace 4 draftsmen. Not that it worked out that way ... now the idea of CAD is to rent you the ability to work.

CAD was invented so we could draft to the 256th of an inch.

As with every technological "innovation" CAD was invented to pay fewer and lower salaries and benefits...

I love redrawing manufacturer's standard details into my drawing so the lineweights read better. I. LOVE. IT.

sneakypete, this is one of my favorite things to do as well.

I am right now trying to add up 1/16ths of an inch to get correct values for a SITE PLAN. ONE PIECE OF SAND CAN AND WILL DESTROY ALL!!!

this entire thread really needs to be moved into the rant post at this point.

Rant Central

not many architecture offices have drafting pools anymore -- the architects are almost all drawing from internship on...so we have that going for us...which is nice

Hmmm. I don't know. I think it leads to lots of dissatisfaction amongst young people. Should architects and draftspeople be the same person, or separate people?

I don't mind doing both... I do mind doing both people's jobs as one person at the price of the draftsman... because "revit efficiencies"

bim =//= less time

...shit, it is >5x the server space of a cad project too

the cost of a hard drive has fallen by something like 41% per year. it's a hell of a lot faster, cheaper, easier, and probably more secure to store on server space rather than a flat file or hanging file.

Firms mostly use cloud based servers.

Yes! Might be the best movie we've seen this year. The Portland of the film definitely feels true enough to the Portland of real life, and so "lived in" that all the characters' motivations make perfect sense. Nevermind the deep, deep love of food and the understanding of the connections that food can create.

you eat coyotes? if not, why did you kill them?

Seems backwards to me but I know people dislike coyotes and find deer to be impossibly cute. They are cute, but also tasty and over-populated, partly due to not having enough predators...

We also love our shrubs in our yards and we cut woods down into tiny little patches, the ideal habitat for deer.

is coyote good eatn'?

The coyotes in this particular area are now overpopulated and have become very aggressive. The Department of Natural Resources has tried for the last five years to reduce the numbers with increased hunting tags for the animals. Unfortunately this didn't work and the DNR has now declared them an invasive species. As such they are now a shoot on site animal with no limit or permit needed. This classification will expire January 1 2022. Only the second time in 35 years this has happened.

I normally don't kill anything that I'm not going to eat.  These coyotes high numbers, their aggressive nature, and  combined with the fact I was hunting from the ground made me decide to shoot them.  I did try to scare them off via yelling and throwing various sticks at them.  

"invasive species" oh the irony, I'm sure the coyotes don't see it.

Well when their numbers are up 600% from last year and are decimating the ecosystem I wouldn't call them welcome. Also the coyotes aren't a native species to the area of MN I hunt in. The DNR has let them be since they've been in the area for the past 60 years.

The desire was that a balance would continue to be maintained.  Unfortunately it hasn't worked out.  Normally I see 3-4 deer a day and 1 coyote every few weeks.  I saw two deer in a week and 12 coyotes in that same time.   

Should have thrown a stick of bonafide ACME dynamite.

Chad, here in Maine the coyotes have bred with wolves and created a new, larger, more aggressive species. At least that's what's happening in northern Maine; around here I believe we just have regular coyotes.

NS - well I did shoot a 9mm round at their feet. They didn't run so I shot them. I've been bowhunting for 10 years all over the country and this is the first time I've ever had to use my sidearm. 

Really sucks.

Also if I used ACME dynamite I would be missing fingers.  

Yep.. Coyote population must be out of control. I'm in the Denver suburbs, long way from undeveloped land, and have seen pairs and trios in the neighborhood and hear their yipping at night. Some are pretty big; like husky sized. Most are scraggly.

It's bad enough that we have them in the Twin Cities, along the river.

This was in south west MN around Pelican Rapids area.

I was surprised how many coyotes I ran into Turkey hunting in Georgia about two seasons ago. They scared off relatively easy, but I saw enough of them to carry along my sidearm during my middle of the night trip to take a leak.

​ask not how many coyotes are there, ask why the coyotes fuck all the time.

I live an 8 minute drive to downtown (city of 700k) and I see coyotes in my neighborhood regularly. The last one I saw was bigger than my 45-lb dog, and was walking right down the middle of the sidewalk. It was pretty funny but it also woke me up really quickly that morning when I saw it! They're really used to seeing people around now and aren't scared at all. The response by local animal control was "we don't care" when I called them about the last one.

Those coyotes are part of the ecosystem, its totally natural and normal for animals like that to wander into new territories and take advantage of the situation. It’s not their fault they’re thriving, they’re just good at doing what coyotes do. Now, if only we would be allowed to hunt the ones responsible for causing damage to our ecosystems ;-)

That's pretty much what the DNR did. The coyotes migrated into this area of MN 60 years ago. Instead of eradicating them they attempted to let them coexist. As the deer population went up so did the coyotes. The issue is their recent explosion in numbers, up 600% from last year. Now the coyotes are running out of food, going into towns and getting aggressive with people. I don't know what impact the coyotes have had on the deer population. I do know that the deer are migrating out of the area to avoid the coyotes. It will be interesting to see what impact all of this has on the local and surrounding ecosystems.

I'm used to encountering various predator animals in the wild.  Timberwolves, grizzly bear, coyotes, wild cats, ect.  I've never had an interaction with them like last week with coyotes. 

ditto on the Georgia coyotes, population has exploded and they've infiltrated Atlanta, fighting the roaming dog (mostly pits) population over the backyard chickens for food (less than 12 are allowed)

I find it unjust and immoral to kill coyotes for being coyotes and doing what coyotes do, but perhaps that’s just me...circle of life and hakuna matata.

Well considering that they were viewing me as a meal and weren't scarred off by shouting, sticks, and a warning shot at their paws . . . I gave them every chance to leave me alone. I feel no remorse for killing them.

Easy to criticize what you've never interacted with.

Obligatory:

Sorry for the delay, I 100% thought I had already posted this yesterday.

Or don't go out in the wilderness if that means you are forced to kill a living creature, just because you're both in the same place at the same time. You had to go out there and invade their territory to end up killing other living beings...sorry but I don't get that...

I'm not a hunter, never could, never would. However, culling the coyote herd is necessary to maintain a healthy habitat. I'm not sure if we'd like their predators in the Twin Cities. Coyotes don't just stay penned up in the north woods of Minnesota, they migrate to the cities, eat pets, get run over by cars, and attack people.

B3, some coyotes may do that but as a whole they get an incredibly bad rap for things they don't do, as do most apex predators.

Randomized thinks that living creatures who stick their noses into places where they aren't wanted deserve what they get.

Rando - then you better not go into any wild places. I've been hunting, climbing, backpacking, ect in wild places for over 25 years. This is the first time I was forced to kill an animal that was aggressive.

I've uncounted timberwolves in the dead of winter because on their deer kills was on the trail. 

I've spooked a grizzly bear on a high mountain pass who was mock charging me. 

I've hiked up the base of a climb only to have a mountain lion and her cubs at the base of the climb. 

In every instance above the animals let me go.  In the instance with the coyotes they were not going to let me go.  Not a big deal as I do prepare for such situations.  Normally I only carry bear spray.  When hunting though I carry a sidearm. 

Rando - say you were out in a park with your family and five coyotes came along and were going to attack you. Would you simply let that happen since it's their habitat and they're just doing what they do? Sounds like a silly question however in the vast majority of the US almost any city is located within a predatory animals territory.

Problems created by humanity often require solutions engineered by humanity. We don't have to be excited about these solutions to acknowledge their necessity. 

Anyway, I think this is a cultural knowledge divide between Urban Europe and Rural Western America that's really hard to bridge in an internet thread.

Sorry for the delay, I 100% thought I had already posted this yesterday.

What are "things you say to clients when your consultants are late on drawings, Alex?"

Wood, I'm specifically referencing this situation. My partner has walked our pit adjacent to the river, and has had a coyote stalk her. My pit would likely rip the throat out one coyote, but a pack, not so sure.

Sorry Chad, but you went there armed with the

sole purpose of taking a life...Maybe don’t go there then, nobody forced you and dropped you into that situation, you went looking for it...I love the outdoors too but am not willing to kill living creatures just to enjoy the view or have a nice hike. As the Netherlands is entirely man made (m/f/x) we don’t have any apex predators, besides us humans, we are finally getting some wolves in now from Germany, and I am totally okay with that.

My completely unhelpful contribution is: were they “clean shots”? I don’t have a problem with culling. But I physically and emotionally can’t bear the feelings I get when an animal suffers. This is directly related to why I’ve never hunted and only fished once. So if you are a good shot, Chad, no problem. As long as the coyotes were living their happy life and then suddenly everything stopped, it’s humane enough IMO to cull for the greater good of the ecosystem.

They were clean shots and each died instantly. The coyotes were only 15 yards away.

Rando - you're right. I went out hunting knowing that I could be put into a life threating situation. Same thing applies when I go hiking, backpacking, climbing, paddling, cross country skiing, canyoneering, driving my car, going to the office. 

 Everything we do has inherit risk. Some are higher than others. In this situation I gave the coyotes every chance to leave me alone. I attempted every non lethal option I had. 

 I have no issues with killing to defend my life. Period.  

Now if someone is simply killing the coyotes because they are ruining their deer hunting - that's BS.  

I've killed some snowboarders on the slopes - Chad, I can see the situation, oddly enough, I've lived really close to golf courses for a number of years, and the packs of coyotes would come out their bushes and lure dogs into chasing them, then ambush and kill; also very daring ones coming right up to small dogs - it's a combination of overpopulation and seasonal change that makes them go hunting at the same time as you. Elk are coming down now in the high country.

Up until this incident I've never worried much about animal attacks in the wild. With everything except when hunting I've either carried bear spray (if in grizzly bear country) or nothing. I've only started carrying a sidearm when bowhunting in the last couple of years. Mostly due to other asshole humans.

i love our timeline

"As the Netherlands is entirely man made (m/f/x) we don’t have any apex predators, besides us humans" 

I'm glad rando brought this up, since it was on my mind as I've been reading these replies. Like I said above, there's a difference between urbanized europe and rural western america, which largely comes down to the fact that rando's predecessors did the hunting that allows him to exist so separated from it that he finds the very concept abhorrent. I think this is a parallel for privilege?

while i also am no fan of killing animals, especially mammals, rando's perspective is suffering a little bit from the "nature as pure/other" perspective, when in reality it's impossible to exist as a human in the 21st century without quite profound acts of violence towards nature being a part of your daily existence; most of them are just "invisible."

In my opinion there is just a difference between defending yourself in an unexpected situation and wilfully invading a predator’s territory to be forced to defend yourself against that predator...anyways, guess I’m like Dr. Joel Fleischman in Northern Exposure’s episode A-Hunting We Will Go...

"wilfully invading a predator’s territory to be forced to defend yourself against that predator" imo that's a misreading of the situation.

As someone who does so frequently: I think it's important to sometimes inhabit spaces where you're not entirely dominant, where you're not entirely in control. I think it's healthy to sometimes remind ourselves that we're still part of the nature we came from, and have a little humility & perspective towards the indifferent factors (animal and environmental) that could and would kill us. This is how I've come to define "wilderness" - not a place free of human impact (as no such place exists on this planet) but a place in which humans relinquish their dominance. If that can be called "willfully invading a predator's territory" than so be it.

There I go, gettin' all philosophical again.

I had the vegan frozen yogurt at Ikea today so I'm feeling particularly smug.

Rando - I think what you're missing is that nearly every area of the wilderness in the central and western United States are the territory of various predators that can kill humans. This is also true for non developed areas near human habitation. I understand not wanting to kill an animal - that's just fine. 

 However, if we were to use your view of not invading a predators habitat would mean not leaving your house in these areas.

NS - a smug Canadian!? Is that even possible?

^Chad we have coyotes in my city too... and black bears. Mostly inner suburbs but still, many sightings. That's why I need to CC a sherwood on me at all times.

I always knew they weren't just for hockey. There is a joke about CC'ing a sherwood.  I'm just too busy with CD's to do it justice. 

I've never lived where there weren't bears, wolves, coyotes, and mountain lions.  They're typically harmless.  Now moose are something else.  Those boys get uppity when in rut and like to beat the hell out of anything.  Cars, trees, rocks, Instagram influencers.  

I’ve never experienced large predator danger, but I grew up checking every shoe before putting it on to make sure there wasn’t a black widow spider inside.

Spiders ::EEEEEEEPPPPPPPP:: I'd rather deal with a grizzly.

Chad, you went out to kill...it was the intent of you going out into the wild in the first place, you went hunting other living creatures not writing poetry, making it totally intentional to kill and thereby premeditated. Sorry, that's just the way I see it.

i, too, enjoy repeating myself in a room full of people who disagree with me for no apparent reason

Chad....smug Canadians live in Quebec

rando i hope you avoid all forms of transportation that emit carbon in any form, because it's not helping a whole host of animals... if intent is the only measure of culpability, you have a very limited kind of ethics.

Hip, I thought it was Alberta?

What about Manitoba?

This is now the longest subthread on archinect, the killin' cyotes thread!

square, fyi I travel by train that runs on renewable energy, or I cycle or walk...but your analogy is way off; emitting carbon is not the intent of transportation, it is a consequence...while killing is the intent of hunting. there is a clear distinction there, I would argue in this case that my ethics are the least limited here and the most inclusive, coyote lives matter ;-)

Ethics sm’ethics. What really matters is if Chad brought home some tasty venison.

The thing is Rando, while I acknowledge your ethics I don't respect them. Yes I did go out to kill an animal. I'm honest about that. You however live in a world where even if you don't do anything that directly kills and animal you're still complicit in it. Living in a city, riding any type of public transportation, owning nearly anything, eating vegetarian, and designing buildings (assuming they're built) kill a good amount of animals a year. I have no idea how many but I'd suspect its in the tens of millions. You're complacent in that death just by existing in this world.

chad nailed it, and i say that as a vegetarian- of course you can't directly intend to make the transportation you use, but you do actively use it. and those buildings you design? certainly not 100% carbon free. the bike you ride? curious how those materials were harvested. plus we haven't even got into the history of how the netherlands came to be, the violence through which you live your comfortable 21st century life free of threatening wildlife, among other things .. but i won't go there.

it's easy to absolve yourself because you didn't intend anything, but it's a pretty intellectually lazy argument.

NS - no venison this year. :( 

I did get an elk though!  25 yards broadside shot from the ground.  So far bow hunting for elk from the ground is way easier than whitetail deer.  

I absolutely love elk... makes for a damn tasty burger. There is a large organic elk ranch just outside my city and they supply plenty of local restaurants.

Yeah it's really good. I figure I'll get around 180 of meat after all the sausage and burger is done being processed.

square, it’s the intend and premeditation that matter most...(well at least to me) all the bs you come up with one cannot change as an individual, they are just excuses to be able looking oneself in the mirror and continue the killing and quench the bloodthirst. Sorry if I don’t play along...

Sorry if we don't play along with your extreme pov Rando.

Rando - I only kill 2-3 more animals a year than you do. You know that the life you live kills animals. You continue to live your life in such a way. That's premeditation. It seems to me that you're the one trying to find excuses to be able to look at yourself in the mirror . . .

It used to be totally normal and acceptable to own slaves too and to do with slaves as one pleases...there will come a time when killing animals for pleasure or to consume their meat will be a thing of the past just like slavery was abolished, and people will be ashamed of their past behaviour and excuses...

Non, there is nothing extreme about not eating meat or to be against the killing of living creatures...quite the opposite!

It seems like you're still missing the point: The pushback you're getting is not because you're against hunting and everyone else is pro-hunting, but because you're insisting on placing yourself outside of a system that you are still very much inside of, and the undeserved moral high ground you're claiming comes off as naive + smug. I'm not saying this to put you down, but because a little blunt delivery might help color in the context for you.

It could be easily argued, for example, that an urban vegan relying entirely on the global food delivery system has a bigger negative impact on nature, animal welfare, and human welfare than a rural hunter who kills their own meat and grows their own produce. Just because you don't pull the trigger doesn't mean your lifestyle is free from death.

I don’t place myself outside the system, I prefer not to contribute to the carnage as much as possible...not killing and or eating animals is a very simple yet effective way to reduce the carnage. Still not sure where all the cognitive dissonance is coming from, but I’m sure it’s just a matter of time...the future is vegan.

not "contributing to the carnage as much as possible" is a very different argument than the one you were making before- it implies the sort of nuance every other person is trying to get at..

i agree with what you're saying about how we might view killing animals in the future- what we do is incredibly barbaric- but again this is shifting the goalposts from claiming that just because you don't intend to harm animals or the planet, your current lifestyle doesn't contribute to it in some significant way.

the future is vegan? I don't see any future to speak of if we keep trying to build where the sea will be again. How's that issue going for the Netherlanders? Still paying SHELL CEO 15 million a year?

I see the dopey expat has pulled you in with another bullshit contrarian argument, that has little to do with reality. Factory farming is the real threat to the planet, humans, and animals. Hunting, while something I would never do, or advocate for, is not the issue, unless of course you're one of those assholes from Minnesota, that goes off to kill elephants, giraffes, or lions. So, unless you are doing that, then in most cases your are likely stewards of the land.

Maybe catch up on some essential reading, can recommend Tom Regan or Peter Singer...killing animals to consider yourself a steward of the land, in that case Adolf fucking Hitler was an amazing steward of the land and a true humanitarian, getting rid of all those millions of meat eating, carbon emitting Homo Sapiens to save us all. Can’t imagine how much warmer the planet would be now and how much more habitat would be lost if all those millions and all their offspring would be still around. /sarcasm

Ruh-oh! He brought Der Fuhrer to zee table. 

Do you have any house pets?

No pets, but if I did I wouldn’t kill it to quench my blood thirst, to simply eat it or to be a steward of my apartment.

When you've got no useful argument to stand on, reach for the classic and reliable crutch: Good old Adolf boy. Well played.

Just following the ridiculous logic that is being shown here by people that can’t give up their meat and want to keep on believing that killing living creatures seems to be a splendid idea...if bringing up Adolf is such a reliable crutch that must mean the argument stands well supported...

There is only one ridiculous one in this entire thread... and spoiler alert, it's not the one handsome wanker who asked if coyotes are good eating.

Randi must be a PETA supporter.

Okay, so it is ridiculous to be against the premeditated and deliberate killing of living and breathing creatures...noted.

^ if the result is a BLT without the bacon, yes, yes it is.

random, answer the question, do you support PETA?

I don't think he knows what coyotes are or what the wilderness is. Sad.

From what I gather, Europe has reintroduced wolves, with very mixed effects, and rather violent conflicts. What I'm curious to know is this, indigenous people have been responsible stewards, are we going to castigate them?

randomised wrote:

"Okay, so it is ridiculous to be against the premeditated and deliberate killing of living and breathing creatures...noted."

It can be ridiculous.  Taking a black and white, non-compromising position on a complicated issue is never a good idea.  

It is ridiculous to be against the premeditated and deliberate killing of living and breathing creatures while also being willfully blind to the reality that your lifestyle indirectly contributes to as much if not more death & suffering. I'm not sure how many ways I can re-state the same thing before you figure it out.

If I wasn't sure Rando was just trolling I would have to think he was being a delusional hypocrite. I know he's not either of those things.

We are living in a potentially post-meat society...we don’t need to kill animals any more to sustain ourselves. The suffering we bring onto animals is just because we as a species are ignorant to their suffering as it is an inconvenient truth and a great (future) shame for our species once we put an end to killing animals for our pleasure and convenience. Keep on lying to yourselves that you have to kill, we don’t have to. What is the point of being a steward of the land if that means taking the lives of the innocent? But whatever, I have a train to catch...

Maybe it's because you never experienced diverse wildlife in the first place, don't worry, it's all going to be good. Pandas are no longer a threatened species.

I'm not lying to myself that I have to kill animals. I choose to. I admit that and have no issue with it.

That green train that you're taking - assuming you travel 10 miles per day, 150 days a year, produces .89 tons of C02.  That's equivalent to around 42 coyotes.  

the carbon footprint of my diverse wildlife experiences (on 4 continents(!)) actually helped me give up eating meat :-P

I think I'll order a double cheeseburger for lunch.

Suit yourself, I’d rather spend those 15 extra years with my kids than rotting in the ground because I didn’t have the guts to give up meat...

Not really a thing, but whatever makes you sleep at night.

Chad, my train runs on 100% renewable energy, and it runs with or without me in it...that’s 42 more coyotes for you to kill, you’re welcome!

Doesn't matter that it runs on renewable energy. It still has a carbon foot print due to embodied energy. A typical commuter train over the same time would produce around 5.4 tons of CO2. 

When you ride it you're killing animals. By using it you're supporting the killing of animals.  

Now excuse me.  I'm going to eat some elk burger meatballs from my recent hunt.  

Rando.... its a pretty far fall from that high horse your looking down on everyone from

Rando's only being semi serious. He's bored and trolling because he's leaving his job . . .

No... really? getouttta here with that sensible conclusion.

Sorry about that sensible conclusion. I got rid of all my blood lust a couple of weeks ago when I murdered three coyotes who were going to eat me.

FWIW, I'm vegan adjacent. I just don't go around expecting that I'm going to get anywhere screeching at people. Another FWIW, PETA, murders house pets daily, all because their idiotic militant position would have you believe that Fido and Felix would be better off dead, than providing you companionship.

i'm sure rando's never flown on a plane or swatted a mosquito either. this has gone straight up clown status.

I mean, even Jesus ate fish.

Yeah but he walked everywhere and all his stuff was organic . . . Then again there was a lot of animal sacrifice.

True, but Jesus would hate factory farming, hunting, I think he'd be okay with. Even Buddhists would be down.

Please all, enjoy your bloody killing and the defending of killing and killers...just because the creature that suffers from your (in)actions is of another species that doesn’t make it justifiable.

But Rando, you're lifestyle kills more animals than mine. Wait a second. I think Rando is actually just a very clever mass killer who's figured out a lazy way to satiate his blood lust.

::cue Friday the 13th music::

I think random is Banksy.

Whatever you need to tell yourself Chad to continue the slaughter...

Rando

I don't need to tell myself anything - I'm just fine with the slaughter. You however seem to be doing some mental gymnastics to justify the your blood lust. ;)

I don’t lust for the blood of innocent animals, that’s more your cup of tea...I don’t need to confirm my “manhood” by killing or eating animals :-P

I don't confirm my manhood by hunting. That's all done on the internet like everyone else. Duh. :P

Still doin this today, huh?

Meh, I'm bored and it keeps my blood lust satiated.

Yeah, sorry always need to have the last word and my mobile internet just got renewed, dangerous combo...

Mobile internet = BLOOD LUST!

I think Coyote Slaughter is a cool firm name.

I was never going to run my own firm but with that name I may reconsider.

I am getting calls from China regarding better adjustments to my medicare plan in the US!

I got three in quick succession this morning too. Damn them.

"I got three in quick succession this morning too. Damn them." Coyotes? Robo calls?

Why? Dude was rocking house designs since he was 12! Not even FoG or FLW can make such claims. If anyone is owned royal status, it's this random wanker I just now found out about and already forgotten. (https://www.markmaresca.com/about)

This is the only crown worthy of my attention and respect:

then he should appoint a royal proof reader  and jargon catcher

When you're the king, whatever you write is the correct spelling... peasant.

yawn......

Why the ::beep:: is this guy worth talking about? 

Uhhhh what am I missing? That's the correct use and spelling of 'coalesce'

actually, he is very good at what he does. There are hundredfold more people who think that is great architecture than the few losers, including me, who think machine for living is better suited for our times. ​

I just found the logo awfully pedant. I'm sure he's good at what he does.

In the US we have OSHA. Do you have a similar agency? It sounds like there might have been a change in the regs.. It actually sounds like it might be legit..

We have something like that... I forget the acronym. They are however abusing it to charge far more than the job is worth and not allowing us enough time to review. I think they imposed a 2 day window which when it expires, reverts to even higher $. If it was an architectural item, I would reject outright, but it's electrical so it's out of my hands but I will still have to face the client.

Important sidenote: The electrical worker's union in my region is literally worst than the montreal mafia.  Someone here will understand that reference.

WHMS ?

WSIB as it turns out.

Occupational Health and Safety (OH&S)

For those holding their breath, I just heard back from my consultant and they pulled out a very terse but precise page from their project spec book that clearly outlines what is considered maximum difficulty and/or hazard and what is considered normal conditions. This project is very obviously normal to anyone who would bother to read it so their initial review (about 1/3rd of the latest quote) will stand. Good thing because I was just about to go read their spec to see if they had a CYA clause.

Non... What is the architects responsibility when it comes to OH&S standard, for say things like ladders? Do architects need to know every standard there is for fixed ladders with OH&S?

Only when it comes to the actual design/installation and we have a federal design standard when it comes to roof access and cages and whatnot. The issue is that standard is no longer published so not a single person alive knows what the fuck they are doing. Every project is a gong show when shop drawings come back. The only clear thing in our code (Ontario) is a supplementary section that dictates the strength (in Newtons!) of fixed ladder anchors. Annoyed am I? nooooooo....

I am in a similar situation , except the NBC-2019 AE is more vague. I am also a little frustrated

NS, I'm sure you don't need my help but I was curious because every time I do a ladder, I spend half a day trying to find the actual legislation and requirements. Go here and click "download" and you'll see what I believe to be at least somewhat relevant.... https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/910213/v28?search=workplace

Better than David Lynch's awful earlier attempt but quite dull. Super-smooth CGI in an emotional desert where I couldn't find myself caring about any of the characters. I never cared much for Herbert's book either.

The previews made it look like a young adult book made into a movie. I take it I just saw a poor trailer?

From what I saw Oscar's bear was epic though!  ;)

I liked David's piece too, this was a set up for the next, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was two parts.

I was thinking Laurence of Arabia and The Prince.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if it was public housing ...

I am going to stop looking at the news on Archinect. I am starting to get sarcastic again and I don't like it. My daughter just started to walk. I don't give a shit about another building for rich people.

this thing:

Don't know what they mean by future sustainability feature.  Perhaps they expect technology to eventually permit full solar power via minimal photovoltaic coverage?  What do I know, I just spent the last few days preparing a 1.6million sq.ft 5 tower office complex for geothermal study.  I sure would help if all I needed to do was colour a few sq.m yellow. 

Holy shit, that can't be real

still have a soft spot for towers that reference Structuralism, don’t know why but prefer those over the smooth dildos you’d see elsewhere...

I have to agree Rando. I too don't know why.

But they affixed a Leed Canada symbol you guys! That means it's sustainable! And so green!

Also it's Canadian so . . . .

Hey now. All those trees that are photoshopped on those sleek boxes are bonafide maple trees. Not only is it sustainable (because of the diagram) but it will also produce it's own maple syrup!

That there would produce a lot of Canadian Gold. . . .

I'm thinking about getting apple tv subscription

the proper lesson to learn from the "classic American subdivisons that cropped up after World War II" is to duplicate them. BUT FASTER.

If you mean BS, most of the country has been converted to worship it.

Cool idea, makes sense. But the idea of living in a subdivision full of similar floorplans terrifies me. It's the reason my wife & I haven't been able to find a house in our area. I've stopped using two different real estate agents because they wouldn't stop sending me the same style of house even after I specifically told them I wasn't going to buy one.

I don’t think so. I know one guy who I was talking to a couple months ago was telling me he felt pretty hopeless - he wasn’t getting the support he needed. We are also losing 2-3 people a week - mostly people in the 5-10 year experience range. PMs appear to be very overloaded and unwilling/unable to delegate. It’s kind of amazing how fast things have deteriorated over the course of the pandemic. I’m starting to plan my exit, but stories I hear from friends at other firms in my area make it seem like it’s not much better there either.

strange- we've done just fine online, and have almost doubled our office with newer folks. some aren't willing to shift the way that they "mentor," but it's entirely possible. i don't buy the correlation between mentorship and physical proximity.. for many it's an unwillingness to adapt.

As with most professions if you're talented and / or a good manager this profession is great. If you're mediocre, don't understand design, construction science, and constructability then you're going to have a rough time.

All that being said. It's all about the firm you work for.  A good firm will mentor you and recognize your talents.  It's important to recognize that large firms and large cities aren't the only place to work.  Great mentorships, growth, and fun projects can be found in smaller firms in smaller communities.  

Good luck. 

Has she recovered from the dust up with dank.lloyd.wright?

b3t - what dustup and who is dank?

IG architecture meme poster, funny as hell, on point, and she got into a beef with him over unpaid labor.

Oh, is that the guy who doesn't practice architecture but sells seminars for passing the ARE?

Nooooooooooo!

Must of been some 'big time' architect I don't follow then.

I had to unfollow DLW. They post way too much.

She's really great, and a great resource for all kinds of building science.

I also had to unfollow DLW... but i still eagerly read all of BSFC's posts!

I'm glad I'm not on instagram . . .

DLW is not for everyone, but their content is a lot less offending than the content of our resident CBD from Kitsap.

What is with all the abbreviations b3t? I have no idea who or what you're talking about. That is probably a good thing?

If you say his name, he comes to haunt threads. Not that he can here, but it's good practice.

Oh! What the f*#k dose CBD and Kitsap mean though in relation to 'big wall-o-text'.

certified building designer, not cannabidiol. He's more PCP, less CBD in that sense.

The big walls of text are posted by a Certified Building Designer from Kitsap, who has apparently been banned from TC.

Kitsap or Clatsop?

I prefer CBD over a Certified Building Designer.

certified bullshit distributor?

I'm usually busy with work and either can't or, more often, just forget to tune in - I'll try to get on this week. I do love Christine.

She's easy to like. And a truly nice person. We usually have a more specific topic and tried to get her to suggest one, but it will be fun to just see where the conversation goes.

Have there been many instances of people getting covid multiple times? Either way, that coworker sucks, is selfish, and I would (if I was the boss) be asking my legal counsel if I could fire her. (Colorado is at-will, so...)

At this point in the pandemic I have zero qualms about someone losing their job for being voluntarily unvaccinated.

Chad, I just got a formal letter from my Quebec Arch association saying that any member of a professional order acting in one of the targeted environments [mostly healthcare and high-density residential] and who is not adequately protected against COVID-19 [vaccine x2] commits an act derogatory to the dignity of the profession. This applies to onsite meetings in those particular types of projects but it also says the same if that unvax idiot decides to have meetings in general without minimum protection (ie. mask).

That is terrible Chad. I try to have empathy for those who are anti-vaxers but it is difficult for me. I got 2 doses of Moderna. It gave me shock psoriasis twice. Better than getting Covid. I am waiting to get the booster. I am 70 and just had cancer surgery. They said they got it all but I am afraid to get the booster until they take the stitches out Monday. I live in a state where over half the people refuse to get vaccinated or even wear a mask. Sometimes I go out in my car and just scream. Like I said having empathy for them is difficult. Love for my girlfriend and our daughter is the only thing that keeps me going sometimes.

This person will not be fired for this. They are vocal about their views on vaccines and masks. The partners know. I'm not sure if CO still has the requirement that if you aren't vaccinated you're supposed to wear a mask. I think it's up to the individual business.

Z111 - I'm sorry to hear about your cancer. I hope they got all of it out. I too try to be empathetic towards people scared to get the vaccine. I understand that it's largely due to ignorance. Some people though, I simply can't be empathetic towards.

Thanks Chad. They said they were able to get it all. They might not have been able to find it if it hadn't been for the psoriasis. The idiots who won't get the vaccine are just making a stupid political statement most times.

So I looked at the mask requirements for CO. Private businesses are able to choose if they want people to wear masks regardless of their vaccination status.  There are exceptions to this based on the type of business :

" Sixth Amended Public Health Order 20-38 requires unvaccinated people to wear masks in specific settings, including medical facilities (including long term care facilities), homeless shelters, prisons, and jails. The state also requires universal mask use for staff, visitors, and residents in residential care facilities regardless of vaccination status. The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) encourages people who are not fully vaccinated to wear masks in all other public indoor spaces to help prevent the spread of COVID-19. "

Ugh indeed. I have a couple of COVID anti-vax issues going on. One is my business peer group, a collection of builders and designers focused on green building sharing tips and support; our bi-annual, 2.5-day meeting was supposed to be this week. We are all vaccinated except our facilitator, and the parent org's rules say they could not attend the event. Long story short, the event was cancelled yesterday. I can definitely use the extra time but we all pay a lot to participate in this group so our leader's decision has an impact on all of us.

My other story is that my wife and I are taking our moms to a rental house on the coast for the weekend. I had originally invited my brother, who I only see a few times a year as he lives out of state. But he's an avid anti-vaxxer, and both of our moms are at high risk, so I disinvited him, which didn't go over well. The holidays will be fun this year...

Keep your chin up, you're doing the morally sound thing.

I already had COVID because a client wouldn't wear a mask. If I get it again because of work I may really upset and loose my cool.

I read recently about some data starting to show that people who contracted COVID, recovered, and then got vaccinated have extremely broad immunity across different variants. So if you were already sick and you got your shot, you're one of the least at risk people anywhere. Congrats!

Correct! Also I'm getting my booster shot once I know I don't have COVID.

Basically I'll be immune to EVERYTHING!  

Here's my rundown of this year in vaccines; shingles, J&J, Tetanus, Flu, Moderna. If anyone is bulletproof, it's this guy.

Good thing it’s not spreading through coyotes because we’re not allowed to touch them.

Coyote eats deer, Chad shoots coyote.

So... B3ta, you saying Rando was right all along? Is Chad keeping covid alive by removing the covid-infested deer 's natural predator?

Of course I'm right!

I only shoot the coyotes after they eat the COVID deer. I'm closing the loop.  Circle of life and all.  ;)

Itttttttttttttt's the CIRRRRRRRRRcle of life....

Yup!  ::sings way off key::

Hey, hey, hey...hakuna matata, y'all!

In the jungle

the wild jungle

the lion sleeps tonight

ah weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

.

Hehehehehe

I'd be Joey. 

guess there's a considerable amount of antivax antimask hunters out there, makes sense, maybe next time don't go hunting deer but give them a mask instead of a bullet:

I don't get the anti mask bunk from some hunters. We have our faces covered 90% of the time when hunting with no issues.  

Oh, and I give the deer an arrow shaft to the heart and save the bullets for coyotes.  

Chad, I read your last sentence as if it was sung from Jon Bon Jovi. No regrets. "SHAFT to the heart... as I lay here alone... save the bullets for coyoeteeeees."

Well duh! I obviously intended it that way. :)

Whoa-oh halfway there, Whoa-OH shootin at a deer

who-OOOOHHHH, shooOOOOOting at a deAAer.

blowtorches! https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/police-colorado-man-set-home-ablaze-clearing-cobwebs-with-blowtorch

Like you've never taken a blowtorch to a cobweb before...

I know we beat the horse pretty well here, but I saw this just now, and I think this type of enterprise should cease to exist, and they're all over the place

https://www.texashuntlodge.com...

14k to hunt a captivity-bred bison? That’s an expensive fish to shoot. Make it bare knuckle hunting, and see how many manly men boom their spots.

Hunting captive bred bison in a ranch? WTF? That's weird.

I say if you take out the bison with just a sharpened stick then it should be free . . . 

Our bond passed for a new $150 million high school. Unfortunately all the school board members are republicans who ran on the an anti-vaccine, anti-mask platform and are backed by republican party.

Also a bond passed for a new fire station complex in a nearby mountain town.  

We have so much work now we need like three more people.

I think this is why my firm is offering some of us stock options.  They're expecting us to work crazy hours for the next six months.  

Nothing wrong with taking a chance and it not working out - especially if you end up with two raises!

Why didn't the interiors firm not value your skills? Didn't they know what an architect dose when they hired you? Anyways, I'm glad things worked out!

Shell, now you have the answer to 'what if'. Glad it all ended well for you. Let this be a lesson to others on the importance of maintaining good relationships in the small world of design and construction. No good comes from burning bridges.

I applaud this bold move. After all, isn't the only true binary good vs. evil?

(And Coke vs. Pepsi, of course.)

I think the bigger issue with Marvel is that when I went to see Dune two weeks ago, fully 6 super hero trailers were shown before the movie. That's too many super hero movies - they're all the same thing sheeple!

I’m curious, Miles, what “wokism” means to you?

I don't know, much in the way Pepe was a way to own the libs, this seems very much the same. I agree with the comments in the piece, a bunch of whites, maga types, reaching for Alt-Right glory.

Misappropriated buzzword faux progressivism.

That has been weaponized.

Imo these will be misread the same way born in the usa and every breath you take were and still are.

My big question is this: why get bent out of shape about this? If you're a decent human being with a degree of self respect and happiness you should have better things to pay attention to.

I overheard a grown woman I know (early 50s I'd assume) rant about how the pup's colours in the paw patrol reinforce pre-determined gender roles (ie. Boy = Blue, Girl = Pink)... totally ignoring the fact that the colours are first and foremost related to most of the pups' profession (blue for police, red for fireman)... and ignoring the other pups with non-obvious gender colours (orange, green, yellow, turquoise, etc) which are given to other pups regardless of gender. 

But, the real question is, why is this 50-year old person watching a kids show... and more importantly, squinting so hard at it just to make grand-statements of hidden agenticity via gender/colours attributions? Why is this person not equally outraged that the show (and every single cartoon since the 80s) is nothing more than a vehicle to sell cheap plastic toys made in china? 

Wokism, just one of the many conservative bogeymen

ANTIFA

ILLEGAL ALIENS

CRITICAL RACE THEORY

ASSAULT ON CHRISTIAN VALUES

ASSAULT ON GUN RIGHTS

ASSAULT ON MY RIGHTS TO DO AS I PLEASE WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF MY COMMUNITY

Just a list of things that don’t really exist for most Americans but have been inflated by conservative media & social media shares into a crisis of tribalism. It’d be nice if that effort could be pointed at actual problems like a viral pandemic, poverty, education, infrastructure, funding the government beyond a year, converting the economy to run on sustainable energy, etc

Media is not liberal or conservative, it is corporate and well served by both parties. WMDs = Weapons of Mass Distraction.

But that is responsible governing.

BOTH SIDES

(bullshit apologism for weaponized conservative media)

This should be on politics central. I will just say that the conseverative movement has devolved into a bankrupt system devoid any core beliefs except for power at any cost. To argue otherwise denies the asymmetrical nature of the cultural and political landscape.

My apologies to thread central…I’ll redirect or just shut it

Sinclair Is Not Liberal

Good catch! Monopolizing local media the same way national media has been.

Miles: “Misappropriated buzzword faux progressivism“ Misappropriated how? From whom?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2021/04/19/why-white-people-should-stop-using-the-term-wokeimmediately/?sh=34793c817779

i'm much more concerned with a society that thinks marvel movies are considered "good."

pretty sure this whole thing was a gimmicky insider joke intended to provoke controversy. but it totally failed because it came out about 3 days before the world shut down to deal with people everywhere fearing death by pneumonia and everyone just forgot about fake outrage. (check the date of the original item...)

note that the writer of this unwritten comic was previously an editor at buzzfeed and founder of clickhole. he writes obnoxious satire for a living. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kibblesmith

My original comment still stands - why get upset about this? There are a lot of more pressing things that should have all of your attention and concern.

Miles, not for nothing, but you've posted two sites with questionable, or obfuscatory agendas - one I'm pretty convinced was deliberately trolling - and then go on to say all media is corrupt. I don't need fake news pieces telling me that whites using "woke" to describe themselves is terribly offensive, and when magakkklan call me "woke" I also understand that their use of it is scurrilous. What I also loathe are businesses tracking in "woke-washing", that performative bullshit is equally fucked.

I think its hilarious.

Before Slick Willy deregulated the FCC there were hundreds of media companies and it was illegal to own two different media in the same market (like newspaper and television). Since that time national media has been monopolized by a handful of for-profit corporations that own multiple media in the same markets and function exactly as your Sinclair link described. Sinclair is not inventong something new - they are just mirroring national media.

To get into this a bit further, each media caters to its viewership, so 95% of people who watch Fox or read the Post don't watch MSNBC or read the NYT and vice versa. They are not providing news as much as they are serving their markets. They are self-reinforcing echo chambers.

Now throw in the Church Committee hearings that exposed journalists on CIA payroll 50 years ago. Read Carl Bernstein on the subject: http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

Yeah, but Miles, unless I'm mistaken, cable news doesn't follow the same rules that broadcast television have to. Now, the Fairness Doctrine, is something I believe needs to be reinstated.

z11s was correct that this isn't the thread for this convo

It's a gray area, as this is as much about media, as it is about politics.

The media are political (too):
”Yes it's fucking political
Everything's political
Yes it's fucking satirical
Everything's satirical
Yes it's fucking political
Everything's political”
https://youtu.be/aP-z03rfj7w

For those unfamiliar with Kibblesmith, he also wrote a childrens' book about a black gay Santa Claus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa%27s_Husband). He knows what he's doing, and he's rather good at it.

Fucking remarkable. To think, these people get trusted with actual responsibility. In this regard, I would be a horrible bos; at will, you're fired. GTFO.

Hypothetically, what if one of them is a partner . . .

I think we all know what you have to do.

Hypothetical torches and pitchforks

Better hypothetical than hypodermical.

Don't be fooling with me, that's not a word. ;)

Even worse. Thoughts and Prayers.

::racks shotgun:: You can just fuck off with that shit. :P

Jesus! Be careful!

I just want to enjoy my nose orgasms again, is that to much to ask?!?!

Donna, until you can get your nosegasms back, try looking straight up when you have to sneeze to avoid the sneeze hurting your back.

.

Donna, I'm sorry to hear that! Glad you're ok. I've had a lot of back problems and know exactly what you mean about sneezing--when you have a pinched nerve it is extremely painful to sneeze. Believe it or not, when you feel a sneeze coming on, if you can hold your eyes open, the feeling will pass. It's weird--you'll be convinced that you're going to sneeze, right up until the last moment, then it feels like you just sneezed. I've done it regularly for 20 years; even just holding one eye open works, but two is easier. There are stories of people who tried this and had their eyeballs pop out, but I'm not sure I believe them, as it has always worked well for me and the explosive convulsion aspect of sneezing just doesn't happen.

“There are stories of people who tried this and had their eyeballs pop out, but I'm not sure I believe them”

I don’t believe them either, Donna…let us know how this works out for you! :) be sure to do a tiktok selfie when you attempt it

Aha, "proof" that it's safe: https://www.healthline.com/health/can-you-sneeze-with-your-eyes-open

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/sneezing-with-your-eyes-open-wont-make-them-pop-out-but-you-can-vomit-your-lenses-loose/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/12/161209081007.htm

These articles also say that it's possible to sneeze with your eyes open, but after using this trick hundreds of times it has always worked for me.

That's false news WG. My cousins, friends, barbers, niece did that and her ovaries fell off.

Chad, I forgot to mention that you have to hold your breath or else that can happen. Or for guys, you could lose your testicles. (Still worth it to avoid the nerve jolt of sneezing with a bad back.)

Good to know!

My manners are backward, Donna =O[ I should've posted a get-better-soon wish before any 'gasm-related humor. I hope you're doing better today, and are sneezing your brains out before you know it =O]

I too went right with the jokes before wishing Donna a speedy recovery. I'm a bad person.

Get better soon Donna! 

get well soon. when you feel the need to sneeze, take a shot of bourbon. i think that's how you're supposed to age.

get well soon. when you feel the need to sneeze, think of Brad Pitt.

"Or for guys, you could lose your testicles."

They don't fall off, they just get pulled up inside, never to be seen again...

You could still ride your bike, catch horny toads, AND drink margaritas there.  :)

Tacos and tequila, mmmm!

Age and perspective are just intense. I grew up in Scottsdale and even as a kid I LOVED vernacular architecture responses to the crazy heat. I know we can live delicately with the earth, but Scottsdale shouldn’t exist. It’s completely wrong.

Looks like you're feeling better, Donna. Yay! And in that great photo you look like the beautiful Laura Linney, for whom I have a soft spot. Well... not soft, actually, but um... nevermind. Glad you're back.

I like this photo of me. I look happy, and I’m with my dad, talking about my mom, so yes I was happy.

it is indeed a lovely picture donna.:)

I love Arcosanti.

citizen, this is just Cosanti, the mini-me version in Paradise Valley. Unfortunately I don’t have time to get up to Arcosanti this trip.

Ah... I didn't know of such a place. Did you buy a bell?

I already have a couple of bells, but I did buy a ceramic coaster.

at least in the public sector you'll have predictable hours, loads of days off, and great benefits. i wish this had been presented as an option in school- i probably would have a very different path.

A union will never happen. Go for the public sector option. Square is right about schools not giving students a full view of the employment options and the advantages/disadvantages of them.

I went to type "agreed" but instead got "GREED" because my caps lock was on. Quite fitting because thats all it is - greed by firm owners and principals. 

I've been passively looking for jobs and it is really depressing. Everyone wants me (or someone like me) to come work for them, but no one wants to pay what we're worth. 12 years experience, licensed for 8, have helmed multiple $100MM+ projects from start to finish, puts together sets, coordinates, mentors, contributes to firm culture. We'll pay you $75k/ year and you'll probably work 3000 hours, but isn't it a great opportunity?

Sorry, you're whining about the Christmas Carol station playing Christmas songs?

I saw snow thursday.

Nah, just joking. I don't really want someone to kill me.

At least it wasn't Christmas Shoes.

citizen - good thing you said something when you did. I was just able to get a hold of my guy.

Isn't it fun! Just stay away from trad climbing. That is unless you have a bunch of disposable income and want to cause pain to your hands and feet. It is fun though . . .

Fun! Did you go to an indoor gym? I enjoyed climbing when I was young--top-roping outdoors or occasionally indoors, nothing too extreme, but it was fun and challenging. Even at 48 years old I still enjoy climbing trees.

Indoor gym - did an intro "learn to climb" session. Had a lot of fun, could not bring myself to trust the Autobelay...until I fell on one of my end climbs. Will definitely do again, and was very surprised that I was able to climb the 30/40 foot walls with relative ease (based on my expectations/past experience)

I don't like autobelays. Then again one time I climbed an entire pitch only to find my partner set up the anchor incorrectly so I had basically soloed the entire thing...

Ignore Chad's advice, Trad is the best climbing, and as long as you stay within your grade range, you can basically hike vertically up through 5.8 (which in some gym grades is like 5.10c) without hurting your hands. Trad is also where the best views are. Trad 4 life.

That's what you get for living in Canada.

sorry

be thankful

It's snowing/raining here and currently -2c. Not bad for this time of year, except that a couple of weeks ago I gutted my second floor and we haven't had ANY insulation up there since. None. Not even the walls. To say I'm stressed about that would be a bit of an understatement. Fuuuuuu....

i don't think our local ski opening day is happening until well after thanksgiving :(

We have lots of snow. For once I am happy to be living on the east side of the mountains as poor BC took her hard the last few days

doesn't look like skiing here either

sorry to hear that...i hope she's back walking the dog soon!

Sorry to hear that. My father (61/62 at the time and fit-enough for his age) slipped on ice a few years back and landed on some log. Broke all his ribs and needed to be hospitalized for a week. I think it humbled him very quickly. Hope all gets better quickly.

Thanks for the kind words. She's doing great and is already out of the hospital and walking around. Not sure how she'll handle the stairs at the house though. I may be working remotely from their place for a bit.

The dog is going up for adoption.  Red (dogo) is a good girl but really strong.  Also my mom is small so Red is just over half her weight.  My wife won't let us take in Red.  

That sucks, both your mom breaking her hip and not being able to take the dog :-(

Yeah. I think my mom will heal up just fine. She's a strong person. Red is a good girl.

 My wife is just not comfortable with big dogs. I'm sure we'll find a good home for the dog.  Say, would you like to get a nice dog Rando?  :)  I bet she could pull you on your bike!  You wouldn't need to take the train then!  :P

I’m sorry to hear but glad your mom is improving! Getting older definitely shows one how brittle our bodies can become, but also at ANY age any one of us can have a sudden event that changes our physical being dramatically. Be grateful for every single healthy day!

That's a shame all around, Chad. Very glad to hear that your mom's on the mend.  And totally agreed on the shock at examples of parents' aging and growing frailty... it catches us by surprise.

now the thumbnail disappeared from the news, odd.

here's the article anyway https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/17/new-york-billionaire-told-to-revise-plans-for-temple-to-a-titan-penthouse

Poorly-written stub news piece... drew criticism from 2 regulars and then it was nuked.

I actually preferred it to the regular corporate press release news fare. But I suspect that calling a billionaire an asshole is not going to be endearing to advertisers. For all the talk about climate change and saving the planet we continue to help the rich ruin it.

looks like the guy actually calls and requests this kind of thing "In late 2019, emails obtained by The Boston Globe showed Ackman requesting that the then MIT Media Lab director avoid naming his wife (Oxman) when responding to press inquiries about a $150,000 gift given to her lab in 2015 by Jeffrey Epstein."

It was dripping politics. I was about to ask that it be moved to P. Central, but it looks that someone beat me to it.

I may have accidentally caused its death when I commented that in my mind when I hear the word “plutocrat” I think “asshole”. Sorry.

The article called him an asshole, and Foster by association. Correctly, from where I stand.

fun fact that i did not know.. ackman and neri oxman are hitched. couldn't write better fiction.

Maybe overly-petty but I lost a little respect for Neri when she shacked up with a billionaire hedge fund bro.

Please point me the direction of that article.

This https://archinect.com/forum/thread/150288626/lender-recommendations-for-construction-loan

I can see your comment . . .

Yes, it’s back, as are my posting proveledges. Suspicious eyes.

You have some type of power we don't know about.

Wow, that Canadian snark is strong stuff! (Or is it snarke? I can never remember.)

There should be a little line over the e.

snarké

Fancy!

Fancé

Stop writing in Canadian. I can't understand what you're saying.

Chad. I. Know. You're. From. Min. Ne. So. Ta. So. I'll. Speak. Slow. Ly.

If you're not going to properly incorporate 'uff-da' into your posts then you can just shove off! ;)

Confidence is key. Not just for laundry.

There's that inconvenient humanity showing itself again, Donna. Being reminded that others (even over-achievers) make blunders and survive helps the rest of us.