vigggo an absolutely brilliant derailment of what could have been an architecture-related thread. Bravo.
Dec 23, 05 2:24 pm ·
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"Sketches cum Napkins" the second chapter of A Quondam Banquet of Virtual Sachlichkeit: Part II (which will likely be published within the next two weeks) is very much an architecture related thread.
Note the similarity of the plan images here and in the napkin sketch posted above by vigggo.
Anyone see the Napkin Sketches mini-show at OSU? I think it was in 2000 or 2001.
The best was Rem's 8.5 X 11 blue ballpoint pen diagram. He scribbled all over the sheet leaving just enough room at the bottom to chicken scratch the word "FIELD".
i like this one by george mcginnis: concept for space mountain at disney, when they still thought the track could run on the outside. according to the comments along with the sketch: "the unintended "flag" on the spire was probably a ketchup addition."
vigggo:
I think the paper towel is more disturbing than the actual sketch. By the way, last year while visiting my girlfriends family we stopped by Libeskind's ROM (Toronto) project and it included some framed napkin sketches.
Personally, I think sketching on a napkin is fine...but keeping it as part of your work process is barfy if not obsene!!
Hummmm....next thing you know...toilet paper sketches! I'm sure this medium will be mastered by Japanese Architects, following the
years of creating wood blocks on paper.
i don't know whats up with architects and the whole "sketching on napkins" mystique. i think architects like to think of themselves as these creative geniuses, capable of composing the most earth-shattering design at a moments notice. always vigilant, the architect will use anything at his disposal as a means to get his ideas into the world, enter the napkin. that sort of thing. ludicrous. no good idea was ever conceived of on a napkin.
le bossman couldnt agree more.
And it seems to me that most those sketches are really done after the project has been designed, and thery are done only to show-off. The Helmut Jahn sketches are too advanced to have come out on the first few days of a project, I doubt he really uses them for process, I think it is ego-stroking.
I don't think the Helmet Jahn are actually "napkin sketches," I think they're just an artist-edition printed on napkins that the Renaissance Society (contemporary art @ U of Chicago) is selling. (I want those Isaac Julien rings.) And actually -- these napkins (sorry, tangential) from the collection by Nancy Dwyer definitely described my sentiments after way too much studio-time:
bossman, I mostly agree. I have often sketched on napkins, but never a skecth of my own "design" - usually I was just trying to explain a detail or plan arrangement of some building I liked/disliked to my drinking companions and, being an architect speaking to other architects, found it easier to communicate graphically than verbally.
Which reminds me of a story I heard in grad school - one of the professors would sit at the bar with his arch school frends in the 60's and they would challenge each other to hand-draw the most accurate Golden Rectangle on their napkin. What a bunch of geeks! I love it.
And here's a funny parallel - my husband and his friend are currently discussing a sculptural furniture piece they are collaborating on, and my husband just grabbed my son's Play-Do to do a little model to help them figure out how to shape one form. A sculptor's version of the napkin sketch.
it was my first sketch of the grosse pointe library expansion, done before we really even launched the charrette, while i was talking on the phone, on a yellow post-it, in less than 5mins.
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Napkin Sketches
let's see 'em!
here's one i had laying around...
vigggo you are brilliant!!!!
you stole that! it's Rem's new National Center for Reproductive Health in China...a working drawing, of course.
This thread is going to be removed for its obscenity.
your naked drinking what the hell are you talking about, dont get much more obscene than that. Crazy ol' coot..
Ach, "Sketches cum Napkins"
Geh weiter!
Wolfie!
We MUST do tea.
...and this time I'm bringing the napkins!!!
vigggo an absolutely brilliant derailment of what could have been an architecture-related thread. Bravo.
"Sketches cum Napkins" the second chapter of A Quondam Banquet of Virtual Sachlichkeit: Part II (which will likely be published within the next two weeks) is very much an architecture related thread.
Note the similarity of the plan images here and in the napkin sketch posted above by vigggo.
How much is that Piranesi innuendo indeed!
Merry Christmas Peter Eisenman.
Anyone see the Napkin Sketches mini-show at OSU? I think it was in 2000 or 2001.
The best was Rem's 8.5 X 11 blue ballpoint pen diagram. He scribbled all over the sheet leaving just enough room at the bottom to chicken scratch the word "FIELD".
i like this one by george mcginnis: concept for space mountain at disney, when they still thought the track could run on the outside. according to the comments along with the sketch: "the unintended "flag" on the spire was probably a ketchup addition."
sci arc web site alumni section has some napkin sketches for sale.link ..there
bryan i am consistently blown away by your work...
vigggo:
I think the paper towel is more disturbing than the actual sketch. By the way, last year while visiting my girlfriends family we stopped by Libeskind's ROM (Toronto) project and it included some framed napkin sketches.
Personally, I think sketching on a napkin is fine...but keeping it as part of your work process is barfy if not obsene!!
Hummmm....next thing you know...toilet paper sketches! I'm sure this medium will be mastered by Japanese Architects, following the
years of creating wood blocks on paper.
I like these toilet paper sketches
and these on paper towels
oops.
ive actually never sketched anything architectural on napkins. just stupid stuff like above. And are paper towels not really just napkins on a roll?
That Helmut Jahn napkin looks quite large. Bigger napkins in Germany?
and thanks, lb. just what we needed in here.
i don't know whats up with architects and the whole "sketching on napkins" mystique. i think architects like to think of themselves as these creative geniuses, capable of composing the most earth-shattering design at a moments notice. always vigilant, the architect will use anything at his disposal as a means to get his ideas into the world, enter the napkin. that sort of thing. ludicrous. no good idea was ever conceived of on a napkin.
le bossman couldnt agree more.
And it seems to me that most those sketches are really done after the project has been designed, and thery are done only to show-off. The Helmut Jahn sketches are too advanced to have come out on the first few days of a project, I doubt he really uses them for process, I think it is ego-stroking.
I don't think the Helmet Jahn are actually "napkin sketches," I think they're just an artist-edition printed on napkins that the Renaissance Society (contemporary art @ U of Chicago) is selling. (I want those Isaac Julien rings.) And actually -- these napkins (sorry, tangential) from the collection by Nancy Dwyer definitely described my sentiments after way too much studio-time:
bossman, I mostly agree. I have often sketched on napkins, but never a skecth of my own "design" - usually I was just trying to explain a detail or plan arrangement of some building I liked/disliked to my drinking companions and, being an architect speaking to other architects, found it easier to communicate graphically than verbally.
Which reminds me of a story I heard in grad school - one of the professors would sit at the bar with his arch school frends in the 60's and they would challenge each other to hand-draw the most accurate Golden Rectangle on their napkin. What a bunch of geeks! I love it.
And here's a funny parallel - my husband and his friend are currently discussing a sculptural furniture piece they are collaborating on, and my husband just grabbed my son's Play-Do to do a little model to help them figure out how to shape one form. A sculptor's version of the napkin sketch.
i'm around post-its more often than napkins these days:
architects maybe don't drink during the day as much as they used to.
was that your Library sketch steven?
it was my first sketch of the grosse pointe library expansion, done before we really even launched the charrette, while i was talking on the phone, on a yellow post-it, in less than 5mins.
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