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Richard Meier

Dazed and Confused

I went to his web site and it seemed like I was looking at a wedding cake catalogue. What's up with all the - white?

 
Nov 20, 04 8:06 pm
RqTecT

White was cool 30 years ago.
About the last time he did anything worth a damm
was also 30 years ago.

Nov 20, 04 8:40 pm  · 
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abracadabra

i am blinded with whitemeier. cain't luk no mo..

Nov 20, 04 9:38 pm  · 
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archiTEKE

"white is the essence of color not te absence of color" Richard Meier
seems like its just easier to make everything white-instead of actually putting any effort into it

Nov 20, 04 10:06 pm  · 
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Medit
About the last time he did anything worth a damm was also 30 years ago.

His Barcelona's Museum of Contemporary Art (MACBA) was built 9 years ago and it's not that bad actually... maybe too white for the grey/brown textures of the Old City urban grid, he should have tried any other color but seems he can't work with anything non-white.. Its main function (starchitecture as a tourist magnet) has proved to be adequate and succesful with time -in rehabilitating a bit the bad reputation of that middle-low class area-, the exhibitions are quite well displayed and organized (fluid and luminous rooms), and the main ramp with views on the front square seems to be a favorite of many visitors..
I like Meier's general white idiosyncrasy to a certain degree, but not my favorite building of the city. He should play with other colors when the external circumstances require it, me thinks...

Nov 21, 04 8:01 am  · 
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trace™

The Rochofsky house is one of his best designs (although I believe Pfifer had a lot to do with it, doesn't matter, though).
His Museum for Radio and Television is pretty nice, too.

He may do a lot of the same, but I still believe he's one of the best. He's the only architect that I can think of that has so many projects that I love and that the average person loves.

Nov 21, 04 8:42 am  · 
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abracadabra

i have to look at his getty center when i drive north on centinella blvd. everyday. and the place looks like an hospital. it is an ugly crown for los angeles and a missed op for its creators. i don't like the buildings close up either. most of them filled with stolen or bought antiquities that belongs to elsewhere. the place gives me the creeps. and the whole organization of getty is a one big art bonanza for professional grant artists.

Nov 21, 04 11:21 am  · 
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Janosh

Richard got caught up in the Corbusian "Prisms in Light" fixation and never moved on to anything else. That said, even if you don't like them in person, you have to admit that they look great in car commercials.

Nov 21, 04 5:53 pm  · 
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Dazed and Confused

He found a niche, that's for sure. I just hope I can find mine before I run out of brain cells. I can't even comprehend how someone can come up with a bunch of great buildings and put together a list of affiliations like Meier's . . .

Fellow, American Institute of Architects
Honorary Fellow, Bund Deutscher Architekten
Honorary Fellow, Royal Institute of British Architects
Honorary Fellow, Royal Incorporation of Scottish Architects
Board of Trustees, The Cooper-Hewitt Museum
Board of Trustees, The American Academy in Rome
Board of Directors, The Architectural League of New York
Board of Directors, American Academy
and Institute of Arts and Letters
National Academy of Design
International Institute of Architects
Belgian Royal Academy of Art
French Academy of Architecture
Cornell University Alumni Council
American Academy of Arts & Sciences

Nov 21, 04 10:18 pm  · 
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dia

The Douglas House on Lake Michigan is a fantastic building in a fantastic location, and standing well in terms of design over its 20 years.
The Barcelona MOMA is a very sexy building but has some unusual programmatic features.
I respect Meier.

Nov 21, 04 10:45 pm  · 
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bankz

i like white

Nov 21, 04 10:59 pm  · 
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slaprabbit

yea i like white to.
and white is still cool. look at apple
how many people went to the apple grand openning in LONDON.

Nov 22, 04 9:18 am  · 
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BOTS

Pritzker Acceptance Speech by Meier

I would like to share with you, tonight, the ongoing conversation that I have with my children, Joseph and Ana. It revolves around the question "What is your favorite color?" Joseph, who is four and three-quarters, always replies green, and states when asked why, that "green is the color of grass, the trees are green, green is all around us, it's the color of spring and dollar bills."

Ana, who is three and doesn't like to be outdone by Joseph, replies that her favorite color is blue, and that, "the sky is blue, the pools and ponds and lakes are blue."

And then they turn to me and ask, "Daddy, what is your favorite color?" And every time we play this gave, my response is the same: "White is my favorite color."
"But Daddy," Joseph says, "You can't have white. White is not a color; white isn't in the rainbow; you have to take a color that is in the rainbow, like red or green, or blue or yellow."
And I have to explain that for me, white is the most wonderful color because within it you can see all the colors of the rainbow. For me, in fact, it is the color which in natural light, reflects and intensifies the perception of all of the shades of the rainbow, the colors which re constantly changing in nature, for the whiteness of white is never just white; it is almost always transformed by light and that which is changing; the sky, the clouds, the sun and the moon.

White conventionally has alwyas been seen as a symbol of perfection, of purity and clarity. If we ask why this is the case, we realize that where other colors have relativevalues dependent upon their context, white retains its absoluteness. At the same time, it may function as a color itself. It is against a white surface that one best appreciates the play of light and shadow, solids and voids. Goethe said "color is the pain of light." Whiteness is perhaps the memory and the anticipation of color. For me, the contrast becomes the definition -- that which is natural, organic, changing, contains at different times, all of the colors of the rainbow. And that which is man-made should help to focus and intensify one's perception of all that is around us.

Nov 22, 04 9:40 am  · 
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gustav

White, though it can be blinding, is even more a shroud of invisibility.

Nov 22, 04 10:32 am  · 
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clerestory strip™

I know, I know, this is a vintage thread, but I think it's interesting. What do you think of RM's white website and white buildings? I personally think the website could be a bit better-for some reason it seems boring, which his architecture is certainly not. I just don't think it does his work justice.

Jul 31, 07 8:42 am  · 
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wurdan freo

I really wish he would have done all of his buildings in pink. And the website too.

Hey, hey hey... look at me. I'm Richard Meier. I designed a glass box in the desert... What do you mean it's 97 degrees in there in the summer with the AC Blasting?

Jul 31, 07 5:51 pm  · 
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snooker

Dude been staring at the sun to long....and has been blinded by the white..

Jul 31, 07 6:52 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

I think that if I ever become an architect, I will do all my buildings in pastel colours, so I can become known as the "pastel architect"-shades of peach, mint, light blue and pale yellow...so everything is a Miami Beach Dream...or nightmare, depending on how you look at it :)

You all know how much I adore RM and his buildings...though I'd like to see him rock out with a subtly pastel hued building....

Grotta House in creme with pale pink and peach accents...


...just kidding!


Jul 31, 07 7:11 pm  · 
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xtbl

didn't he do one house that was clad with a dark wooden scrim?

i was looking for it on his site, but couldn't find it.

Jul 31, 07 7:23 pm  · 
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Ms Beary

I know an architect who had a fetish with teal for a long time. I'd say white is alright.

Jul 31, 07 7:25 pm  · 
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snooker

rm florida project....pink coral...with a touch of dusty rose,

Jul 31, 07 8:35 pm  · 
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larslarson

cris.
i think you're right...it was for a hollywood producer or the like...and it
was all wood...i don't believe he designed it, but someone from his
office and was credited as such..

Jul 31, 07 9:19 pm  · 
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holz.box

he named his kids after the albers'?

Jul 31, 07 9:27 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

I remember seeing a picture of that wooden house several times before when doing my RM searches, but when I tried to find it today, dang it, it didn't pop up once!
I really intended to post a picture of it here, but I can't find it. It's really nice, too.

Who are the Albers?

Aug 1, 07 8:20 pm  · 
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snooker

.870. Think holz might be speaking of Joseph Alber's the Bahuas color man.
http://www.ubs.com/4/artcollection/the-collection/a-z/albers-joseph-5/biography/index.html

Aug 2, 07 2:53 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Ok, thanks snooker :) Now it makes sense.

Does anybody know if RM ever comes to Archinect?

Does anyone know if any celebrity architects (NOT starchitects...I HATE that term) ever come to read our posts about them?

I think some of the things here might shock them...that's why I'm going to be good from now on.

I think I may have offended someone a while back with some of my postings-and for that, I am very sorry :(

Aug 2, 07 10:04 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Now I know why I should never post when I'm depressed...

...anyway, I did find two pictures of RM's first house...







Aug 4, 07 11:38 am  · 
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clerestory strip™

Bumping for replies...

Aug 6, 07 11:37 am  · 
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simples

wow...that was a bit mean...(the addition)

870...make sure your obsession with meier remains just healthy admiration...there are many other architects out there that you could take an instant of two to look at (open mindedness is key to good architecture, you know!)
If you like white, do a quick search on alvaro siza (recently on the news section of archinect)

Aug 6, 07 1:43 pm  · 
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cf

White,
Black,
Stainless Steel,
Titanium,

Choose your nitche

And speaking of nitche, there was Field Theory.

Aug 6, 07 1:53 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Hi simples,

Yes, I agree that was cold...and believe it or not, there are other architects I admire greatly-KPF, Hastings Architecture Associates (they're local) Edward Mills, Robert A.M. Stern, and my old fave is Walter Gropius.

Just curious...what is unhealthy admiration? (ducking)



Aug 6, 07 4:44 pm  · 
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simples

870...you should try to expand that list, and try to find what about each architect's work that appeals to you!

oh, and i'd say that if you have a wall in your apartment featuring a meier collage of impromptu snapshots you've taken of him as you wait outside his new york office, your admiration might've become unhealthy! repeatedly posting exclusively about one architect probably is not that unhealthy...right!? :)

Aug 6, 07 5:33 pm  · 
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snooker

What is the buzz about RM.....working on Nashville this winter on some all white building which will use the Stetson Hat as the form giver? Ya he is a white hat kinda guy!

Aug 6, 07 6:45 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Ooh, Snooker, don't play with me...

Simples, I guess I need to put the picture of him under my pillow away for now...I'm sure that qualifies as unhealthy admiration (only kidding!)

I understand. I bet y'all are tired of me talking about him...so I'll get some new material...but he was kind enough to write to me...and I actually met him...so I suppose I've become his champion of sorts.

Doesn't take much to please me, huh?

Aug 6, 07 9:07 pm  · 
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vado retro

this is a bit like the archinect version of "misery." don't break your leg dick.

Aug 6, 07 9:24 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Oh man...I would never do anything to harm or annoy him, especially since I would like to sit down and talk to him about his life's work someday.

How that's going to happen, I don't know...

...maybe when I win the powerball lottery, the clouds turn to marshmallows and the soil to cocoa powder...

Aug 7, 07 2:13 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

when richard meier traveled to europe to imitate le corbusier's "grand tour"..he met le corbusier. desperate that that might be the only chance of meeting his idol, he asked corb if he can work for him for free...he didn't get the job...

Aug 7, 07 2:52 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Yes, I remember that story-maybe I ought ask him if i could work in his office as an unpaid intern for a couple of weeks...he probably wouldn't hire me because I don't live in NYC. I remember reading on his website he only wanted local people :(

Aug 7, 07 3:27 pm  · 
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snooker

.870. next time you have an opportunity to meet RM.....Dress in all white....white stocking...white heels... Platinum blonde hair....and wear white framed sunglasses...with a red scarf.....I'm sure you will get his attention. He might even consider hiring you if you pop the question.

Aug 7, 07 4:28 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

if rm believes in le corb, then you should wear all black...

Aug 7, 07 6:29 pm  · 
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snooker

.870. Second thoughts wear all RED!

Aug 7, 07 7:36 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

Well, I was wearing black when I met him the first time, so I might go for the white or red. I actually thought about wearing white, but all my winter clothes are dark. Maybe I could wear all white and see what happens.
However, I wouldn't look good as a blonde-my hair is staying black.
If I showed up with platinum hair he'd run like hell!


If I wore white...
...perhaps he'd notice the subtle reddish tones in my hair and the cool bronze of my skin against the white of the dress...and he'll notice how the tone of my skin changes with the changing light of the day...

...whoa...I really went off on a tangent there...I've been watching A Concert Of Wills too much...



Aug 7, 07 10:12 pm  · 
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xtbl

yeah...

if rm turns up missing in the next few days, we'll know who to suspect =P

in a completely unrelated matter, i just downloaded the new mozilla firefox and it has a spell check and thesaurus/dictionary feature now. cool!

Aug 8, 07 12:56 am  · 
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clerestory strip™

I assure you, he's not going anywhere :)


I love Firefox-I had been using Safari for a long time and I went back to using Firefox today-I ldon't know why I quit it in the first place. I think I'll download this new version tomorrow.

Cris, is your version made for Mac or PC?

Aug 8, 07 1:14 am  · 
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xtbl

i'm running it on pc.

i'm not cool enough to own a mac.

Aug 8, 07 1:16 am  · 
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clerestory strip™

I'm lucky my boss (whose name is Cris too!) let me take my old Mac home-I'm neither cool or wealthy, so I wouldn't have purchased one on my own. I also have a PC, but I don't run Firefox on it-it's strictly on my Macs (home and work)

I'd love to download it for my PC, and if I do, it'll probably take all day to download since I have-gasp-DIALUP!

Aug 8, 07 1:27 am  · 
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xtbl

dialup!?

people still have that!?

Aug 8, 07 1:30 am  · 
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clerestory strip™

Yep...when you're poor like me, that's what you have to have!

Aug 8, 07 8:10 am  · 
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conormac

I've jimmied an unravelled paperclip into my modem and pierced my neighbor's cable with it.

It does all right.

Aug 8, 07 1:55 pm  · 
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conormac

oh and mho on meier- I love his stuff like I love colonial reproductions, extremely fine and beautiful spaces... I don't think he's pushing the envelope anymore, and that's why people are down on him.

I bet he makes a killing!

Aug 8, 07 1:58 pm  · 
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clerestory strip™

He's found a successful formula and he's sticking with it-and I'm happy he is.
He certainly is doing all right-I can only dream of being that prosperous.

I've only had the chance to see his work in person once-the Charles Street/Perry Street Towers-in the dark-but even then, they were impressive. I'm hoping to go to Atlanta in a few months to see the High Museum, as I'd like to experience RM's creations firsthand.

About the paperclip-in-modem trick...
Knowing my luck, if I stuck a paperclip into my modem I'd get the s*** shocked out of me...

Aug 8, 07 3:19 pm  · 
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