This is what the government of China does,... still.
This is who OMA-Rem Koolhaas and boy wonder Ole are working for to build a stunning, shining symbol for it's propaganda mouthpiece. A television channel that probably will not speak a word about this execution. It's so wrong.....
As rotten as some of the things the US government has done recently, the US still doesn't sneak citizens off in the night and have them executed without trial. It's beyond ignorant to conflate the behavior of the worst parts of the US government with those of the Chinese. In the US, human rights are protected and dissent is tolerated in almost every instance, there's no equivalence to China.
The stones are thrown at OMA-RK for duplicitous rhetoric that tries to obscure who their client really is. The academic and critical communities are all too happy to oblige apparently. The double standard by which having a propagandizing, censoring, oppressive client is okay if it's in China and the work is 'innovative' but doing the same thing for say, FOX news, would cause major outcry.
Essentially, OMA-RK have asked the architectural community to forget about the unpleasantness of the Chinese government and 'feel the quality' of the architecture on its own.
I agree 100% Janosh re: citizenship vs. complicity. good point.
and newold, i didn't 'conflate' anything. I only meant to suggest that due to the less than democratic behavior of the US in the last few years I for one am less inclined to point out the wrong-doing of other countries.
also, i would never defend the specific things that you take issue with. quite the contrary.
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This is what the government of China does,... still.
This is who OMA-Rem Koolhaas and boy wonder Ole are working for to build a stunning, shining symbol for it's propaganda mouthpiece. A television channel that probably will not speak a word about this execution. It's so wrong.....
Thanks Rem.
it's tough to throw stones from where we stand (assuming, newold, that you are a US citizen).
I disagree- maybe if newold was a US Citizen AND designing a detention center for Justice Department. Let's not conflate citzenship and complicity.
As rotten as some of the things the US government has done recently, the US still doesn't sneak citizens off in the night and have them executed without trial. It's beyond ignorant to conflate the behavior of the worst parts of the US government with those of the Chinese. In the US, human rights are protected and dissent is tolerated in almost every instance, there's no equivalence to China.
The stones are thrown at OMA-RK for duplicitous rhetoric that tries to obscure who their client really is. The academic and critical communities are all too happy to oblige apparently. The double standard by which having a propagandizing, censoring, oppressive client is okay if it's in China and the work is 'innovative' but doing the same thing for say, FOX news, would cause major outcry.
Essentially, OMA-RK have asked the architectural community to forget about the unpleasantness of the Chinese government and 'feel the quality' of the architecture on its own.
I agree 100% Janosh re: citizenship vs. complicity. good point.
and newold, i didn't 'conflate' anything. I only meant to suggest that due to the less than democratic behavior of the US in the last few years I for one am less inclined to point out the wrong-doing of other countries.
also, i would never defend the specific things that you take issue with. quite the contrary.
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