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"AZ Immigration Law"/SB 1070 - Your Thoughts?

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DisplacedArchitect

ms parad oxx,

read c.k.'s post.
(you can't educate bigots (aka ms paradoxx)with facts, that's what's eroding this country much more than illegal immigration)

What have you done for this Country Ms paradoxxx, ill tell you what absolutely nothing zilch.

when you have relatives that have fought and died for this country then you can start talking the crap that is coming out of your mouth.

Until then you have no right to talk about this country or its people.

Were all just now starting to become a united people and here comes little ms. paradox who thinks she knows what our problems are.

you are even less intelligent than i previously stated.

You would probably be one of the people that insisted the earth is the center of the universe arguing against Galileo, if you lived in the past.

May 3, 10 1:06 am  · 
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Paradox

Troll..

May 3, 10 1:09 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

you know what a troll is? you almost speak as though you believe in myths.

That is one of the characteristics we bring from the "Old World", Stories and such, but i have good news for you ms Paradoxx. In a few generations when you are Dust, your great grand kids won't remember your stories.

May 3, 10 1:14 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

I wished sometimes I wasn't alive. Maybe a 100 years in the past... or a 100 years in the future?

I think I could manage going back to my homeland. Unfortunately, my local aristocrat is the Prince of Wales.

And, really... fuck Prince Charles. I hope that honkey dick dies soon.

May 3, 10 1:18 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

And when your great grand kids forget you and your stories, you will be worse than dead.

May 3, 10 1:20 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

He is fairly good at urban planning and being cohesive with design and history... (Sorry Richard Rogers)... he really is an insufferable child though.

I have read Queen Elizabeth II's biography front-to-back... all 1200 pages of it... and Charles doesn't seem like the kind of person who is well liked.

His own mother hid from him. His children seem to hate him. And he really is a big baby.

May 3, 10 1:20 am  · 
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Caryatid15

Illegal is illegal - - I think we all agree on that. But there's this "other" angle that I've been reading that some illegal aliens have the potential to be rather productive and very hardworking legal employees - - we can't deny that - - especially those who came in, overstayed or violated the terms of their visas, etc.

There are illegals, who if given the opportunity to be legal aliens can actually bring something to the table, whereas there are, as media likes to emphasize, ones who cause nothing but higher crime rates, et al.

I government gives some form of amnesty to these illegals, I think it's unfair to everyone else who has had to deal with USCIS to do things legally.

I guess it's dammed if you, dammed if you don't for the government???

What's the most logical move - - in keeping with the ideals of "America" and at the same time, fair to everyone, including those who did things legally.

May 3, 10 1:23 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Not sure what to say... or why I said it... Campari is one hell of a liquor.

...

Also, thank you c.k. for your points. I'm neutral on immigration. Like the drug trade or prostitution, it is going to happen.

Hopefully we can steer it to being more public so that everyone is "safer" and is less taken advantage of. Can't really stop it.

I think I am irritated by aspects of immigration. But with bad, also comes good. So, I'm not really sure. I am sure without waves of Spanish immigrants to Florida (PR, Cuba), I would have never discovered empinadas! However, living in Florida and Being from New Mexico... I'd definitely say that Mexicans assimilate easier into the general culture.

Most of the immigrants in Florida are far wealthier and far more legal... and they definitely stand their ground. In response though, my area has a pretty significant and rigorous "white culture (aka hipsters)" that really frightens the Latinos.

Like the Latinos around here are completely fascinated by and frightened of the hipsters. So funny!

May 3, 10 1:27 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

I've heard many Cubans and Puerto Ricans wonder how white kids can drink soo much booze, smoke soo much weed, snort soo much blow and pop soo many pills... and still act relatively normal.

One of my friend'ss grandmothers is terrified by hipsters. She thinks they are going to stab and rape her.

May 3, 10 1:30 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

hipsters? thats a new one. what is that?

Most latinos in my home town are afraid of getting beaten to death by the police.

May 3, 10 1:30 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

"Illegal is illegal - - I think we all agree on that"

I won't agree on that. Historical English common law has almost nothing in it regarding immigration!

Illegal and wrong are two wayyyyyyyyy different categories. Illegal is what someone says is wrong. Wrong is something where someone actually gets hurt physically and or mentally by the actions of others.

Illegal immigration is a near victimless crime.

May 3, 10 1:32 am  · 
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c.k.

but you agree that there are ways to do things legally vs. illegally?

May 3, 10 1:37 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

One time the local police beat a 72 year old man to death for guess what?
They confused him for a 20 year old graffiti suspect after police in an unmarked car and in civilian clothing yelled at him to stop and get on the floor and he tried to run. Seriously how many feet do you think a 72 year old with diabetes and heart trouble is going to get before he got tackled?

Oh and here is the best part property taxes are going to pay for the multi million dollar lawsuit.

PS. my local police is also stopping people and asking for proof of citizenship. of the 26 thousand people here we probably have maybe 2 thousand illegals.

May 3, 10 1:40 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

ps. the old man was mexican

May 3, 10 1:41 am  · 
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Paradox

"And when your great grand kids forget you and your stories, you will be worse than dead." Maan what are you smoking??? What are you drinking? It is now clear to me that you're such a pathetic human being who has nothing else to do but insult people on forums behind the safety of computer.Do everybody a favor and GET A LIFE!

May 3, 10 1:41 am  · 
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Caryatid15

I'd like to hold the same idealism as you have, Unicorn Slaughter, but I find it difficult given that I and countless other people I know did things legally, or perhaps in your terms, "by the book". I mean, I do find some previous posts regarding illegal immigration way too harsh, but at the same time I can't help but agree on some of the things that were pointed out.

May 3, 10 1:43 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

Ms. Paradoxx,
if you think this former military vet, needs a computer to feel safe from you.... you are seriously high.

May 3, 10 1:44 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

Why don't you behave like all the rest of the first generation Legal Aliens?

May 3, 10 1:45 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

PS. i have been insulting you for the most part not people.

Im glad your pissed. Another job well done.

May 3, 10 1:47 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

Speaking of getting a life, what are you doing blogging in a website dedicated to Architects? aren't you like a secretary or something?

May 3, 10 1:50 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

I guess its just a professional point with me not to let the secretary (aka paradoxx) get the final word, it just isn't right. Think most Architects agree with me on that.

May 3, 10 1:54 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

ms paradoxx,
I didn't think i was insulting you so much as I was educating you on your newly adopted country the good ol USA.

PS. if I'm you think I'm insulting you, lady you better buckle up , because we have so much more to show you, Welcome to the USA!

May 3, 10 2:01 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

hope my ps. doesn't confuse you I know your new here. sorry ignore the "If I'm"

May 3, 10 2:04 am  · 
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Paradox

"Speaking of getting a life, what are you doing blogging in a website dedicated to Architects? aren't you like a secretary or something?"

Nope I'm an architecture graduate on the path to become an architect.Where did the secretary thing come from? Didn't you know that women actually became architects too?

May 3, 10 2:17 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

this close to posting porn all over this thread.

May 3, 10 2:20 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

oh so you are a graduate of architecture, so you know about as much as the secretary anyway

May 3, 10 2:29 am  · 
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Paradox

I guess you're confusing me with yourself..

May 3, 10 2:31 am  · 
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Caryatid15

Unicorn...THAT, I agree with you. :) LOL

May 3, 10 2:32 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

was that funny back in your old country?

May 3, 10 2:32 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

Unicorn,
ms. paradox already mentioned she wears boots...

May 3, 10 2:34 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn
May 3, 10 2:50 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Shawty had them Apple Bottom jeans, jeans
Boots with the fur, with the fur
The whole club was lookin' at her
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps, with the straps
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack, ayy!
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

I ain't never seen nuthin' that'll make me go
This crazy all night spendin' my dough
Had a million dollar vibe and a bottle to go
Dem birthday cakes, they stole the show

So sexual, she was flexible
Professional, drinkin' X and ooo
Hold up wait a minute, do I see what I think I? Whoa

Did I think I seen shorty get low?
Ain't the same when it's up that close
Make it rain, I'm makin' it snow
Work the pole, I got the bank roll

I'mma say that I prefer them no clothes
I'm into that, I love women exposed
She threw it back at me, I gave her more
Cash ain't a problem, I know where it goes

She had them Apple Bottom jeans, jeans
Boots with the fur, with the fur
The whole club was lookin' at her
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps, with the straps
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack, ayy!
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Hey, shawty what I gotta do to get you home?
My jeans full of guap
And they ready for Shones
Cadillacs, Maybachs for the sexy grown
Patron on the rocks that'll make you moan

One stack, come on
Two stacks, come on
Three stacks, come on, now that's three grand
What you think, I'm playin'? Baby girl
I'm the man, I'll bend the rubber bands
[ Low lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]

That's what I told her, her legs on my shoulder
I knew it was over, that Henny and Cola
Got me like a Soldier
She ready for Rover, I couldn't control her
So lucky on me, I was just like a clover

Shorty was hot like a toaster
Sorry but I had to fold her
Like a pornography poster
She showed her

Apple Bottom jeans, jeans
Boots with the fur, with the fur
The whole club was lookin' at her
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps, with the straps
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack, ayy!
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Whoa, shawty
Yea she was worth the money
Lil mama took my cash
And I ain't want it back

The way she bit that rag
Got her them paper stacks
Tattoo above her crack
I had to handle that

I was on it, sexy woman, let me shownin'
Make me want it two in the mornin'
I'm zonin' and them rosay bottles foamin'

She wouldn't stop, made it drop
Shorty did that pop and lock
Had to break her off that guap
Gyal was fly just like my glock

Apple Bottom jeans, jeans
Boots with the fur, with the fur
The whole club was lookin' at her
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low

Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps, with the straps
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack, ayy!
She hit the flo', she hit the flo'
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low, low low low low
C'mon

May 3, 10 2:52 am  · 
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DisplacedArchitect

wow if thats what ms paradox looks like it would tempt me to say that she is smarter than the secretary...no on second tought

May 3, 10 2:52 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn
Jacki-o - 'Pussy (real good)'

Jacki-O you can't be playing with that pussy now
Jacki
Lemme lemme lemme see what you working with
I I I know it look real good but
I wanna get real close to it
Poe Boy
I wanna get real close to it come on

I get diamonds, big old pearls
Brand new cars, cause I got my girl
She my best friend, she keeps it real
I love my pussy, pussy pay my bills
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
It's so pretty, she so sweet (So Sweet)
She so good, wet indeed

[Chorus]
Pussy real good, that pussy real good
Pussy real good, that pussy real good
That pussy off the chain, go on and do yo thang
Pussy real good, that pussy real good

Ya momma don't like me, she say I'm no good
What she don't know is, I got you pussy whooped
He need this pussy, he smell this pussy
He wanna taste this pussy, you gotta pay for pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
Police pull me over, they don't write no tickets'
All between my legs, tryin to eat me

[Chorus]

Girl I don't pay for weed, I get in clubs free
In V.I.P. and we drinking bubbly
It's so fat, to be in G-Strings
And it's so swoll, you can see the print in my jeans
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
That pussy pussy
Collect calls from jail, he just want some stuff
Tryin to get a bond, he wanna beat it up

[Chorus]

Da the da the da the da the da the daaaaa (x4)

American Pussy, Hatian Pussy
Cuban Pussy, Bahamian Pussy
Puertorican Pussy, Jamaican Pussy
Poe Boy
Girls we got power, cause we got pussies

[Chorus]

May 3, 10 3:13 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn
Better link and a music video to "Pussy Real Good!"

Anyone else want to talk about the cultural sanctity of America?

May 3, 10 3:18 am  · 
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oe

I guess none of us is seeing the irony in using brutal sexism to harass someone for being a bit of a xenophobe..

May 3, 10 9:35 am  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Thank you OE.

And by the way, only the first song is sexist. The second one by Jacki-o would be female empowerment! I made sure to balance that out beforehand.

Although, the female rap example is leaps and bounds more graphic than the first song where a rapper likes to treat women like expensive prostitutes!

America!

May 3, 10 11:30 am  · 
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le bossman

this is a short article that was posted on newsweek today that i thought provided an interesting perspective on the situation:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/237196

May 3, 10 1:51 pm  · 
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oe

I dont think people here would disagree with the last half, but again, the bill on the books, (and really all of the anti-immigrant legislation Ive seen) is offering suspiciously general solutions to a set of very specific problems. Even in that article, theyre applying the same conflation between drug dealers and violent criminals and a host of people whose only crime is to take desperate steps to come to a place where they think they can work hard and make a new life. The reason theyre turning to such desperate measures is that immigration caps and paths to citizenship are kept artificially and deliberately low, and I think the attitude behind that underlying policy is deeply suspect.

May 3, 10 4:58 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?


may day illegal alien rally - los angeles 2010

May 3, 10 5:40 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?

*edit* ^that was in phoenix

May 3, 10 5:54 pm  · 
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Paradox

Is that guy holding the sign REALLY a Latino or a non-Hispanic being sarcastic?

May 3, 10 5:57 pm  · 
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Philarch

I'm trying to avoid this thread, but seriously FRaC? Where is that image sourced from?

May 3, 10 6:23 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?

i don't have an air-tight fully confirmed source BUT here is where a saw it (and it's on the internets so it must me true!): kfi640.com - the john and ken show! listen mon-fri 2pm-7pm pacific standard time

for your info - watch out!! - if you scroll down too far you will see their 'heads on a stick' gif image protesting the governator and the cali legislature's massive tax increase from 2009. it's a bit disturbing if you're not ready for it - arnold's head is spinning around conan the barbarian's sword.

May 3, 10 6:35 pm  · 
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Philarch

FRaC, what are you trying to accomplish exactly by posting such an image with a questionable source?

Even if it is real (which is unlikely), are you saying this is the attitude of ALL illegal immigrants or at least MOST? BTW, the building in the background is apparently in Los Angeles, and it is highly probable that the bottom portion in red is photoshopped.

Or perhaps you just thought it would be provocative?

Lets get something straight here; I have no motivation to defend illegal aliens but I do have a problem with painting a negative picture of a large group of people for the sake of being provocative. Lets not dehumanize the people involved, the illegal aliens, minority legal immigrants/citizens that may be unfairly profiled, AND the lawmakers/ law enforcement officers facing a difficult situation (the kind where the ideals of our constitutional rights may contradict one of the solutions of a real-life issue)

May 3, 10 7:14 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?

hmm .. yes indeed the image is apparently a photoshopped hoax. i apologize for posting it! i deleted it from my photobucket account but it still shows up here (mods?!?)

no i don't think all or even a majority of illegal aliens want to 'shoot police' but definitely the majority of illegal alien drug smugglers and human traffickers will kill if they have to.

May 3, 10 8:03 pm  · 
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On the fence

This isn't about race it's about immigration and illegals.

As far as I am concerend, anytime a cop stops you, he should be able to ask for proof of citizenship or legal entry. When a problem gets as big as illegal immigration (what, around 5% of America?) they should start by profiling ALL of us no matter what our race is.

Time to put up road blocks and start asking for papers/id.

May 5, 10 4:00 pm  · 
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oe

Yea! Like they did in ... the soviet union?

Its like "No no no, we dont want big government taking over everything, we just want a police state." I swear the right wing in this country has willfully dissociated itself from its own head.

May 5, 10 6:31 pm  · 
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metal

maybe there should just be a way to weed out the illegals who are criminals, which is not all of them..

May 5, 10 6:47 pm  · 
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