i did catch that segment last night...ridiculous! esp. the guy said small town values = "1950's america." never mind the fact that he was a lobbyist, but what about the 50s was he referring to? segregation? the korean war? air raid drills?
or maybe he was referring to the cleaver family...or the andy griffith show? those were around in the 50s, right? i love how conservatives have never relinquished the myth of "the good ol' days."
what nonsense!
Alright guys, anybody know of a good forum where the presidential debate can speak to the independent and undecided voters?
I feel like we're all critical and of a similar mind on this forum, but it feels like we're all just preaching to the choir... Is there someplace where we can contribute to the debate with more independents and republicans who are willing to actually debate the issues?
The media is shying away from a debate about the facts, focusing more on hype and irrelevant personal spin, so if they're not going to focus on the issues and facts, its up to the public to bring debate on the facts...
this image almost stands symbolically for her legacy after being vp for four scary years. that carcass could be...freethinkers? science? the american economy? the environment? bloggers? queers? iraq? iran? canada (wtf)? civil rights movement? women's rights movement? third world aid? homeowners? the electric car? moos??
It's time to stop taking the bait and move ahead and talk about science, the economy, health insurance for all, the transformation to a sustainable economy and the right for women to choose. The Republicans will continue to neglect and try to take our rights away. We need to the ballot booth in November and put a stop to it.
Thanks for the link, makeArchitecture. That was great.
How do we get the media to quit taking the bait?
Also loved the Daily Show's "Tribute" to McSame from 9-5-08...Maverick Reformer becoming the Reformed Maverick. Those guys at Comedy Central make it all worthwhile.
Yeah, what mfrech said: we can all fantasize about becoming ex-pats as some kind of "political statement" but the fact is: if you believe in Obama's vision of a better country, then leaving it when things are bad is contrary to everything he's been saying in this campaign. Man up and stay to try to fix it.
NO, I don't want to see her go down because of some stupid affair. Who cares who she and her husband sleep with.
I want to see women come out in droves voting against her because her selection by McCain humiliates and insults all the women who have worked hard to enable her to get where she is.
I agree with liberty bell. Although I heard about this as well, and as the article says, the Edwards thing really puts it all into new perspective. If this is what knocks her off the ticket and displays John McCain's lack of judgment once and for all, then I'm fine with it.
I don't care how it goes down...with her or without her.
And actually...the article linked scares me. The McCain camp will come out and just call anything against them a lie while the dems try to be intellectual and explain how off base the Republicans are from the core issues. The Dems should know that after the last two elections, that if they don't punch back harder - they will lose.
It would just disgust me to see them, the republicans, win. Honestly.
Vancouver has my name on it either way. With my health, my lack of interest in constant warfare, and love of nature. I don't have time for this country to keep playing games and pandering on issues...I mean, I am only pro Obama since Palin came out. He had lost me with his run to the center...so...I see him as the better of two evils...but not someone who is going to change things in the way he is letting on. He is from the Chicago School of economic thinking...I am not dillusional...Capitalism will keep marching on as the most important thing to this country...not health...not peace...not creativity or intelligence or happiness...but pure dirty nasty capitalism...I have had my fare share.
That said, I hope all you that stick around...make all the differences that you are hoping is possible...and I will be voting this winter for one Mr. Obama in an attempt to help in one little way that I can.
ideally i'd love to beat her on issues, and i think ultimately that could very well happen, but when you're running against the karl rove machine i'll take whatever i can get
i'm actually amazed that the the supposedly liberal MSM hasn't really even touched that yet. in one statement, palin shows both her racist and anti-feminist world views.
The Republicans belittle the Democrats for being less patriotic. I always insist that it's not true. But then every time the Dems lose a presidential election, all of my Democratic friends talk about moving to Canada.
Great. Play right into their portrayal of us by saying that at the first sign of hardship, you're gonna abandon your country for a different one. Rather than fighting for this one.
"Who do I go with in negotiating with Russia and China?"
That's hilarious.
McCain is your man because he can be bought by the highest bidder. Look at his chief foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann. He is on the payroll of the Georgian government. Is that in the best interest on the United States? Think about it. The Georgian government killed hundreds of civilians when they went into that province of Georgia. The Russians responded. Neither side is in the right on what happened.
Ramos, you really should dig a little deeper. All you have offered for some time is ad hominem attacks right off of Karl's script. Open your mind and learn something. You went to architecture school and never head a solid set of political science classes to really understand what is going on. Parroting fox news points is cute but 95% of the world thinks the US is going down the wrong path. You should open you eyes and find out why. Remember, THE CONSERVATIVE PRESS IN GREAT BRITAIN, SPAIN, GERMANY, FRANCE AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THINKS THAT GW BUSH AND JOHN MCCAIN HAVE BEEN AND WIL CONTINUE TO BE A HUGE DISASTER. Again, think about it.
many posts have been written since i last chimed in, but i didn't see any mention of the actual list of books SP had attempted to have pulled from the Wasilla stacks...from librarian.net, in the comments section comes this unsubstantiated list...
anyone see this anywhere else? it's insane, and i can't (but of course do...) think it could be for real, but like i said, thus far unconfirmed.
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
farwest1, I hear what you're saying. But the problem is, a McCain win would NOT be the "first" sign of hardship. It would be another scary stepping stone in what I believe is this country going in the wrong direction. It means that no amount of hard work and enthusiasm and moderating voices, which I think is what this year has been about, can stop the cogs of this country going down the wrong path.
I was just talking to my mom about this. She's a little crazy, yes, but we both believe that if it does go down that way, then frankly I don't think I want to be a part of it. Interestingly I'm in grad school right now, and I'm focusing my research on the American way of building, so you're talking to someone who does want to help. I have a lot to give to society, but if this society proves that it doesn't want it, then I'll take my skills to someplace that does.
I'm sorry, I feel like it comes off as so petulant when I say it that way - "I'll take my toys and go home" just like Dick Morris said - but I'm only one person, and I can only fight so much. I'm a hard worker, but how can I give all of my energy and passion to support a system that I want to fail? This is all based on a McCain win-scenario, of course. I feel confident that an Obama administration would be much more open and conducive to the type of work I'm hoping to do....
PS. That list HAS to be fake. If she tried to ban the dictionary then she's EVEN dumber than I thought....
But then every time the Dems lose a presidential election, all of my Democratic friends talk about moving to Canada.
Since my wife is Canadian moving north is entirely an option for us. We've discussed it more as an option if the economy goes way south and we are out of work, etc. Kind of a worst case scenario as we have a family safety net up north. But moving there on the singular basis of dislike for who's occuping the White House is a bit of a "grass is greener" approach to life. The joke amongst my family and friends up there every election year is that half of America will threaten moving to Toronto or Vancouver because they are supposedly "enlightened" cities. Like them, my wife and I just roll our eyes at those threats and go on enjoying life in the US regardless of who's in the White House.
Here's my realistic scenario if Obama doesn't win:
McCain wins. But, since the Democratic brand in general is so strong, the Dems make solid gains in both the House and the Senate. So the checks and balances work in a way that they didn't under the first six years of Bush. McCain doesn't have the leverage to commit any major constitution-gutting blunders. McCain reverts back to his old self (since his new hard-line self was basically invented to secure the Repub base) and is a fairly moderate Republican—hawkish on foreign policy, a bit temperamental, but moderate domestically. He will run a disorganized White House, and the Democrats will put up a tough-guy candidate in 2012.
before anyone picks up for Canada, you might want to look at who's in power in Ottawa right now, and maybe hold off until after the october 16 election there before heading to another country that has suspended its commitment to the Kyoto protocol.
and I'd rather stick around and wait for an independent northeast republic before I take off anyway. I honestly believe that a few more years of neoliberal economic policies, neoconservative social and military policies declining economic fortunes, and greater economic disparity and we'll see some serious strain on this grand experiment of ours
here's an analogy i'm growing more and more fond of. the america of the twenty-first century is the europe of the twentieth century. american hegemony will continue to decline as china's and india's stars continue to rise. a mccain-palin victory in november will only hasten the decline.
on a positive note, i do believe that america has the ablity to deal with the problems it created in the twentieth century similar to how europe in the twentieth century confronted the problems of its own creation from the nineteenth century.
you have to be philosophical about these things and remember in our democratic system, the election is a reflection of who we are. we will ultimately get what we deserve.
"McCain wins. But, since the Democratic brand in general is so strong, the Dems make solid gains in both the House and the Senate. So the checks and balances work in a way that they didn't under the first six years of Bush. McCain doesn't have the leverage to commit any major constitution-gutting blunders. McCain reverts back to his old self (since his new hard-line self was basically invented to secure the Repub base) and is a fairly moderate Republican—hawkish on foreign policy, a bit temperamental, but moderate domestically. He will run a disorganized White House, and the Democrats will put up a tough-guy candidate in 2012."
Either that or a gridlocked government fails to do jack shit about the economy, or energy, or healthcare, or foreign policy, or our infrastructure. We continue to dump most of our GDP into retarded wars. Russia ties off oil supplies from the caucuses and iran and venesuela tell us to go fuck ourselves and gas goes to $12 a gallon. Mr. and Mrs. Kill'n'Drill go messianic on us and we go to the ballot box in 2012 fighting off those pesky nuclear-winter blues.
Given where things are going I put odds on the latter.
Sarah Palin doesn't know what Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae do:
Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers."
DUH!
Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.
"You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country's mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn't speak well for her, I'd say."
"We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative," Palin said.
well, make, i guess nobody ever did tell her "what exactly it is that a VP does" -- which in this case, means actually know some stuff and not be a "klondike martha stewart" sans the business acumen.
Sarah Palin???
[html=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeHdxPKIs]Biden hits GOP on economy[/url]
Wow, 9 pages so far....maybe she does raise more hackles than Clinton...
Meanwhile:
The Palin family at home...
did anyone catch the daily show last night and specifically their segment on "small town values?" amazing.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/33504/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-fri-sep-5-2008?c=960:1214
i did catch that segment last night...ridiculous! esp. the guy said small town values = "1950's america." never mind the fact that he was a lobbyist, but what about the 50s was he referring to? segregation? the korean war? air raid drills?
or maybe he was referring to the cleaver family...or the andy griffith show? those were around in the 50s, right? i love how conservatives have never relinquished the myth of "the good ol' days."
what nonsense!
"can you be more generic?"
Alright guys, anybody know of a good forum where the presidential debate can speak to the independent and undecided voters?
I feel like we're all critical and of a similar mind on this forum, but it feels like we're all just preaching to the choir... Is there someplace where we can contribute to the debate with more independents and republicans who are willing to actually debate the issues?
The media is shying away from a debate about the facts, focusing more on hype and irrelevant personal spin, so if they're not going to focus on the issues and facts, its up to the public to bring debate on the facts...
well said brink
http://action.barackobama.com/page/s/volunteer
I really want to hear Sarah Palin say: "See you at the debates, bitches."
save a child, kill a caribou:
but it's okay, that caribou was gay anyway.
this image almost stands symbolically for her legacy after being vp for four scary years. that carcass could be...freethinkers? science? the american economy? the environment? bloggers? queers? iraq? iran? canada (wtf)? civil rights movement? women's rights movement? third world aid? homeowners? the electric car? moos??
i had no idea pro life meant:
pro hunting
pro death penalty
pro mothers dying during pregnancy...
awesome!
I recommend this article:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-is-not-hockey-mom.html
Sarah Palin is not the hockey mom.
It's time to stop taking the bait and move ahead and talk about science, the economy, health insurance for all, the transformation to a sustainable economy and the right for women to choose. The Republicans will continue to neglect and try to take our rights away. We need to the ballot booth in November and put a stop to it.
Thanks for the link, makeArchitecture. That was great.
How do we get the media to quit taking the bait?
Also loved the Daily Show's "Tribute" to McSame from 9-5-08...Maverick Reformer becoming the Reformed Maverick. Those guys at Comedy Central make it all worthwhile.
Those guys at Comedy Central are the primary reasons I haven't made serious overtures towards Canadian immigration yet!
well, we - the missus and me - haven't made serious overtures, but we are definitely "looking into" becoming expats.
My wife has already filed the papers to getting a temporary medical license in BC. Vancouver has our name all over it.
my girlfriend of 9 years is eligible for dual citizenship in Ireland...but surely this fine country is not beyond repair!
Yeah, what mfrech said: we can all fantasize about becoming ex-pats as some kind of "political statement" but the fact is: if you believe in Obama's vision of a better country, then leaving it when things are bad is contrary to everything he's been saying in this campaign. Man up and stay to try to fix it.
Hopefully it won't come to that.
fear not my flag pin wearing brethren, there is hope...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccain-camp-battles-natio_n_123696.html
i mean they got it right with edwards and the man allegedly involved in the affair ordered his divorce records be sealed....
NO, I don't want to see her go down because of some stupid affair. Who cares who she and her husband sleep with.
I want to see women come out in droves voting against her because her selection by McCain humiliates and insults all the women who have worked hard to enable her to get where she is.
I agree with liberty bell. Although I heard about this as well, and as the article says, the Edwards thing really puts it all into new perspective. If this is what knocks her off the ticket and displays John McCain's lack of judgment once and for all, then I'm fine with it.
I don't care how it goes down...with her or without her.
And actually...the article linked scares me. The McCain camp will come out and just call anything against them a lie while the dems try to be intellectual and explain how off base the Republicans are from the core issues. The Dems should know that after the last two elections, that if they don't punch back harder - they will lose.
It would just disgust me to see them, the republicans, win. Honestly.
Vancouver has my name on it either way. With my health, my lack of interest in constant warfare, and love of nature. I don't have time for this country to keep playing games and pandering on issues...I mean, I am only pro Obama since Palin came out. He had lost me with his run to the center...so...I see him as the better of two evils...but not someone who is going to change things in the way he is letting on. He is from the Chicago School of economic thinking...I am not dillusional...Capitalism will keep marching on as the most important thing to this country...not health...not peace...not creativity or intelligence or happiness...but pure dirty nasty capitalism...I have had my fare share.
That said, I hope all you that stick around...make all the differences that you are hoping is possible...and I will be voting this winter for one Mr. Obama in an attempt to help in one little way that I can.
so much for free market economics...
"Sambo beat the bitch"
-Sarah Palin on the Democratic Primary at an Alaskan Diner
ideally i'd love to beat her on issues, and i think ultimately that could very well happen, but when you're running against the karl rove machine i'll take whatever i can get
maybe she thought he was indian?
i'm actually amazed that the the supposedly liberal MSM hasn't really even touched that yet. in one statement, palin shows both her racist and anti-feminist world views.
sweet.
The Republicans belittle the Democrats for being less patriotic. I always insist that it's not true. But then every time the Dems lose a presidential election, all of my Democratic friends talk about moving to Canada.
Great. Play right into their portrayal of us by saying that at the first sign of hardship, you're gonna abandon your country for a different one. Rather than fighting for this one.
"Who do I go with in negotiating with Russia and China?"
That's hilarious.
McCain is your man because he can be bought by the highest bidder. Look at his chief foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann. He is on the payroll of the Georgian government. Is that in the best interest on the United States? Think about it. The Georgian government killed hundreds of civilians when they went into that province of Georgia. The Russians responded. Neither side is in the right on what happened.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/mccains_top_foreign_policy_adv.php
Ramos, you really should dig a little deeper. All you have offered for some time is ad hominem attacks right off of Karl's script. Open your mind and learn something. You went to architecture school and never head a solid set of political science classes to really understand what is going on. Parroting fox news points is cute but 95% of the world thinks the US is going down the wrong path. You should open you eyes and find out why. Remember, THE CONSERVATIVE PRESS IN GREAT BRITAIN, SPAIN, GERMANY, FRANCE AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THINKS THAT GW BUSH AND JOHN MCCAIN HAVE BEEN AND WIL CONTINUE TO BE A HUGE DISASTER. Again, think about it.
many posts have been written since i last chimed in, but i didn't see any mention of the actual list of books SP had attempted to have pulled from the Wasilla stacks...from librarian.net, in the comments section comes this unsubstantiated list...
anyone see this anywhere else? it's insane, and i can't (but of course do...) think it could be for real, but like i said, thus far unconfirmed.
Link here...
and the list:
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
farwest1, I hear what you're saying. But the problem is, a McCain win would NOT be the "first" sign of hardship. It would be another scary stepping stone in what I believe is this country going in the wrong direction. It means that no amount of hard work and enthusiasm and moderating voices, which I think is what this year has been about, can stop the cogs of this country going down the wrong path.
I was just talking to my mom about this. She's a little crazy, yes, but we both believe that if it does go down that way, then frankly I don't think I want to be a part of it. Interestingly I'm in grad school right now, and I'm focusing my research on the American way of building, so you're talking to someone who does want to help. I have a lot to give to society, but if this society proves that it doesn't want it, then I'll take my skills to someplace that does.
I'm sorry, I feel like it comes off as so petulant when I say it that way - "I'll take my toys and go home" just like Dick Morris said - but I'm only one person, and I can only fight so much. I'm a hard worker, but how can I give all of my energy and passion to support a system that I want to fail? This is all based on a McCain win-scenario, of course. I feel confident that an Obama administration would be much more open and conducive to the type of work I'm hoping to do....
PS. That list HAS to be fake. If she tried to ban the dictionary then she's EVEN dumber than I thought....
Since my wife is Canadian moving north is entirely an option for us. We've discussed it more as an option if the economy goes way south and we are out of work, etc. Kind of a worst case scenario as we have a family safety net up north. But moving there on the singular basis of dislike for who's occuping the White House is a bit of a "grass is greener" approach to life. The joke amongst my family and friends up there every election year is that half of America will threaten moving to Toronto or Vancouver because they are supposedly "enlightened" cities. Like them, my wife and I just roll our eyes at those threats and go on enjoying life in the US regardless of who's in the White House.
"But moving there on the singular basis of dislike for who's occuping the White House is a bit of a "grass is greener" approach to life."
You don't think whoever in office is largely responsible for the economy? I think your rose tented glasses might have a smudge on them.
Here's my realistic scenario if Obama doesn't win:
McCain wins. But, since the Democratic brand in general is so strong, the Dems make solid gains in both the House and the Senate. So the checks and balances work in a way that they didn't under the first six years of Bush. McCain doesn't have the leverage to commit any major constitution-gutting blunders. McCain reverts back to his old self (since his new hard-line self was basically invented to secure the Repub base) and is a fairly moderate Republican—hawkish on foreign policy, a bit temperamental, but moderate domestically. He will run a disorganized White House, and the Democrats will put up a tough-guy candidate in 2012.
Well, the Canadian economy is largely tied to the US. The reason we'd move back is for family, not politics, economy, etc.
before anyone picks up for Canada, you might want to look at who's in power in Ottawa right now, and maybe hold off until after the october 16 election there before heading to another country that has suspended its commitment to the Kyoto protocol.
and I'd rather stick around and wait for an independent northeast republic before I take off anyway. I honestly believe that a few more years of neoliberal economic policies, neoconservative social and military policies declining economic fortunes, and greater economic disparity and we'll see some serious strain on this grand experiment of ours
like i said MURDERER
this woman has been lied to i feel bad for her but there is no way i would ever vote for her she is full of hate and has no ideas only blind attacks
the Colbert Report and Daily Show made the republican convention so good!
mad props
here's an analogy i'm growing more and more fond of. the america of the twenty-first century is the europe of the twentieth century. american hegemony will continue to decline as china's and india's stars continue to rise. a mccain-palin victory in november will only hasten the decline.
on a positive note, i do believe that america has the ablity to deal with the problems it created in the twentieth century similar to how europe in the twentieth century confronted the problems of its own creation from the nineteenth century.
you have to be philosophical about these things and remember in our democratic system, the election is a reflection of who we are. we will ultimately get what we deserve.
"McCain wins. But, since the Democratic brand in general is so strong, the Dems make solid gains in both the House and the Senate. So the checks and balances work in a way that they didn't under the first six years of Bush. McCain doesn't have the leverage to commit any major constitution-gutting blunders. McCain reverts back to his old self (since his new hard-line self was basically invented to secure the Repub base) and is a fairly moderate Republican—hawkish on foreign policy, a bit temperamental, but moderate domestically. He will run a disorganized White House, and the Democrats will put up a tough-guy candidate in 2012."
Either that or a gridlocked government fails to do jack shit about the economy, or energy, or healthcare, or foreign policy, or our infrastructure. We continue to dump most of our GDP into retarded wars. Russia ties off oil supplies from the caucuses and iran and venesuela tell us to go fuck ourselves and gas goes to $12 a gallon. Mr. and Mrs. Kill'n'Drill go messianic on us and we go to the ballot box in 2012 fighting off those pesky nuclear-winter blues.
Given where things are going I put odds on the latter.
that list is fake
harry potter wasn't published at the time.
funny how people who believe in 'god' are so scared of harry potter though.
They dont like competition in the mindless fantasy department.
Sarah Palin doesn't know what Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae do:
Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers."
DUH!
Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.
"You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country's mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn't speak well for her, I'd say."
they're scared of a lot of things...
especially since they are the once who stole/hijacked the destroyed the pagan myths.
Yo I just dropped theists and harry potter fans in one quip. I demand props! Props!
I don't *really* know what Freddie and Fannie do either.
But then, I'm not running for public office.....(yet).
"We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative," Palin said.
That's when she was for the bridge.
As for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, they have been in the news a lot!!!
The VP should know something about it!!!!
well, make, i guess nobody ever did tell her "what exactly it is that a VP does" -- which in this case, means actually know some stuff and not be a "klondike martha stewart" sans the business acumen.
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