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BabbleBeautiful

Sometimes I like to browse the job posting ads on craigslist to see what's out there and I click on one that's titled "Intern Architect." In the body of the ad is says "opening for...individual with 2-5 years experience..."

Forgive my ignorance, but I don't get it. I was under the impression that Intern Architect meant someone with 0-3 years of experience. If that's true, how can they expect to hire an "Intern architect" with 2-5 years of experience.

 
Dec 30, 07 2:51 pm

Some offices use the term 'intern' to describe any unlicensed designer, regardless of skill level or experience. I might be wrong, but I think a strict reading of NCARB's nomenclature guidelines implies that this is how the term should be used. See, for example, the note at the bottom of this page:

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(personally, I think it's counterproductive, not to mention insulting, to call any unlicensed architect with a professional degree and (let's say) more than one year of office experience an intern, but hey, what're you gonna do?)

Dec 30, 07 3:08 pm  · 
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BabbleBeautiful

hmm, interesting. Says a lot about the mentality of the firm, at least, the person who posted the ad.

Thanks.

Dec 30, 07 3:17 pm  · 
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holz.box

i would like to see an advert that doesn't hold back:

wanted: b*tch

Dec 30, 07 3:26 pm  · 
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liberty bell

Don't be offended, afrdzak, or anyone unlicensed. The use of "intern" by a firm also implies that they understand that you don't have enough knowledge or experience to be termed a Project Architect, thus they know they will be at least somewhat responsible for training you. This is reality, not condescension (sp?).

If one does have greater than, say, 10 years of experience and is not yet licensed, then that person probably has their own reasons for making that decision and are thus far beyond being concerned about vocabulary.

Dec 30, 07 3:32 pm  · 
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BabbleBeautiful

I'm not offended. Just curious. I haven't gotten my degree yet, so I can't be offended (yet) ;-).

Dec 30, 07 3:36 pm  · 
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I actually am offended when the word is used in this way. I've got a Master's and over 3 years experience. Haven't even gotten around to opening a file with NCARB yet, though, but I'm sure I'd have most of the credits already.

An intern (to my mind, and in the minds of many people within and without the profession) is someone who's still in school, isn't paid that much, and performs tasks that don't require a lot of decision making ability. I'm not an intern.

Dec 30, 07 3:51 pm  · 
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some person

Another ambiguity that confuses me: "A licensed architect with 10 years experience."

Does that mean a person who has been a licensed architect for 10 years, or someone who has been in the industry for 10 years, regardless of when they got registered?

Dec 30, 07 5:06 pm  · 
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I think this is part of a larger issue, the terminology is f*cked in general. I just created another thread about the legal use, misuse, and abuse of the larger term.


Dec 30, 07 5:32 pm  · 
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JsBach

I love it when they post an ad looking for a licensed architect, capable of running multiple projects and leading a team. Then at the bottom they post 2-5 years of experience. In other words they want somebody that can do everything but want to pay them an interns salary.

Dec 30, 07 8:55 pm  · 
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