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2007 Existential Crisis Convention

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KEG

Also known as the E.C.C.
...based on a TC post by Rationalist.

Here we join to freak out about big changes, transitions and growth.
We agonized through the "2007 M.Arch applicants, commiserate here!" thread together, now we're dealing with the repercussions of all that hard work! Many of us are moving (tens to thousands of miles), quitting jobs, selling cars (yay!), and starting new adventures.

The line to become a card carrying member starts here...


 
Jul 18, 07 1:00 am
WonderK

I was supposed to go to bed awhile ago, but due to my current 24-hour-a-day, 7-day-a-week anxiety attack I am a little more restless than usual.

I just got done trying to decipher the nuances of my two potential health insurance plans. Which really makes me think I should have gone to school in London after all.

Jul 18, 07 1:04 am  · 
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KEG

What prompted this thread tonight?
This:


That's just one stack and I'm nowhere near packed (maybe 1/8th done?) and I can't even get to my bathroom. I have so much paperwork to do, flights to book, furniture to sell, movers to schedule, people to say good-bye to, lists to write...

*sigh* It's overwhelming.

Jul 18, 07 1:05 am  · 
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KEG

dubK you are the calm one. you're supposed to say "everything will work out".

Jul 18, 07 1:06 am  · 
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WonderK

Dear god. Looking at your boxes makes me cringe at how many I'll probably have.

Jul 18, 07 1:07 am  · 
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WonderK

This is me being calm. When I get really excited I use exclamation points.

However, everything will be alright. It always is. We just have to plow through a lot of crap to get there!

Jul 18, 07 1:08 am  · 
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KEG

ok ok, ur right. It's funny, 3 months ago all I wanted in the whole-wide-world was mail from grad schools. I swear to god...if I get one more piece of mail from Penn...ugg...I cannot fill out another form, make another decision, bank accounts, loans, health care....I wish they'd just figure it out for me and I'll just show up!

Jul 18, 07 1:13 am  · 
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really? wow, I can't get enough from UW. Maybe it's because I'm still two months away from the first day of classes, but my mailbox is empty, which freaks me out.

I just realized- anybody who's moving to LA can donate boxes to my move! It would be super eco-friendly to get another use out of them, as well as preventing me spending too much on stupid pieces of cardboard.

Jul 18, 07 1:19 am  · 
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oh, so I took people's advice and made a list. But my list is broken up by weeks because there's still so much to do that a single list would be completely overwhelming. So far, I have...

*opened new bank account at bank with many branches in my destination city
*done quite a bit of work to get car sale-ready
*made a list of furniture items to sell
*listed myself in the 'housing wanted' section of craigslist, and cringed at most of the responses
*booked van rental

So far, I have NOT...
*closed original useless bank account
*smog checked car
*found last piece needed for car
*listed car as 'for sale'
********sold car
*found place to live
*listed furniture as 'for sale'
*sold furniture
********found place to live
*updated website, portfolio, resume
*found job in new local
*packed one single solitary item of stuff

a couple of those get some extra '****'s, because they really are that much more important than the rest.

Jul 18, 07 1:31 am  · 
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myriam

I'm donating boxes to chicago craigslist in a few days. Can't bring myself to throw 'em out and they're about to suffocate me.

I am very sympathetic to y'all, but honestly I can't remember ever freaking out about a move. Just being super super super happy and excited. I was all packed about a week early for my last move, we're talking down to the underwear (rationed until moving day).

Why are you all so nervous?! It's gonna be SO MUCH FUN!!! A whole new city and a whole new life!!!!! awesome.

Jul 18, 07 1:32 am  · 
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KEG

I agree....I loath buying boxes....

If you can't re-use someone's (or get them on craigslist), this is what I do:

you see in the pic (next to my nightstand) there are a whole bunch of boxes flat-packed? When Target ships stuff to the stores, they use those boxes (they just pop open- no taping needed) and then they flat-pack them, 20 to a box) and ship palettes of them back to the warehouse. Anyway, I drive behind Target and they always have one or two packs next to/ leaning on the dumpster (they say they are only "good for 8 uses", so maybe thats why they toss them. They weren't on or near the palettes so I took them. This last time, I asked the security guard and he said I could. I feel good cause I don't have to buy them (waste) and they pack down so nicely, I can actually just store them in my new apartment ready for the next move.

when does UW start? I've steadily been getting communication(s) for a good month. It's piling up...

Jul 18, 07 1:32 am  · 
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hmmmm, target idea is good. Do you think the boxes will fit on the back of my bike? = )

UW starts Sept. 26th, so I've got more time than the rest of y'all. I think the reasons I'm freaking our are that: I'm convinced that nobody will want my car because it has a salvage title, I have nowhere to live yet, and I'm switching professions!

That was actually the original inspiration for the ECC. I had a total freak-out meltdown one day at work because everyone needed my help at work and it just felt so fantastic to be so damn good at what I do that I freaked out and despaired of ever being as good at the new thing. So I vented to TC and they tried to talk me down. It worked, for about 12 hours.

Jul 18, 07 1:37 am  · 
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KEG

wow...you guys type fast.

thanks for the list rationalist...I'm pretty much in the same state (I've found a place to live, but haven't booked movers), but have a month less than you. People keep telling me to make a list, but every time I do I freak out and stop. You've just pushed me- I will do it tonight. You might actually have to use your car to get the boxes ;) BTW, is it switching professions, or just focusing?

Myriam, I'm a worrier. I soooo wish I could just see the excitement in it because it is freakin' exciting but I ruin it because I'm so overwhelmed. Love the underwear rationing!!!

*singing*
A Whole New World


Jul 18, 07 1:42 am  · 
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myriam

Aw! Think of it this way: You already know you're good at one thing you do, and now you'll probably be good at another! If for some reason you hate it, or whatever, well then you're no worse off than you are already--which is great!

Jul 18, 07 1:44 am  · 
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KEG

ok, seriously....can you just move in with me for the next month and put things into perspective every time I freak out (which is a lot)?

I really needed that. thank you!!


I am going to make my lists now.

Jul 18, 07 1:50 am  · 
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awww, thx. myriam.

WTD- I'm moving from architecture to graphic design. There will surely be overlap and some funky industrial in-between, but for the most part it's a switch.

Jul 18, 07 1:50 am  · 
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myriam

ha ha ha, I should probably freak out a lot more about life than I do. This has caused problems before. Your freak-out is healthy--you'll be all the more prepared once you get there. Don't worry about worrying! It's all going to be wonderful. Also Philly and Seattle are both great cities. Both have good food market options, and that's important. Screw LA with it's lack of public transit... you're going to love your new cities!

Jul 18, 07 1:55 am  · 
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KEG

*embarrassed* I thought Myriam was talking to me., but that's ok, cause it calmed me down anyway.

Rationalist, right...I see, I guess I was just thinking of it still in respect to architecture (like everything has to be arch-centric?). I get your freak out- it's a big step, but it's going to make you such a well-rounded designer (in all forms). AND, if you decided to go back to arch- this training will still help you immensely!

Jul 18, 07 1:56 am  · 
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KEG

ok...we are crossing, lol.

I agree SCREW LA (for now ;) , I'm ready for a change. I LOVE Seattle (rationalist is lucky!) and I think I'll love Philly....just a little nervous (ok a lot) about the snow.

Jul 18, 07 1:59 am  · 
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oh yeah, I'm ready for the move in terms of wanting to get out of LA. No offense to WonderK or tumbles, I've just hit my expiration date on being entertained by the place. I can't believe that I've been here for seven years! Which of course means that I've accumulated seven years worth of stuff and friends and life that now have to be dealt with.

Jul 18, 07 2:08 am  · 
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myriam

Snow is really pretty and it makes the world quiet. It's especially cool in cities because as it falls it makes little white piles on all the protruding architectural ornament on the old building facades, ornament that you never noticed before until you step out your door the day after a snowfall and discover that someone has highlighted all the architectual features in white. The world is suddenly full of gracious buildings marked with the hand of some gentleman architect from a statelier time. It's magnificent. And the cold ain't so bad--just buy a down coat (forget the pea coats--those are for long-time northerners with thicker blood than you) that covers your ass and has a zipper instead of buttons. You will be warm and happy in it.

(You can trust me, I'm from southern california too.)

Jul 18, 07 2:09 am  · 
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Apurimac

ah, snow in NYC, it really is beautiful, for about 5 minutes until the bums start pissing in it and the drunks start puking in it and smokers start ashing in it and the cars start driving in it until it turns into a hellish brown/gray slush of human decay.

Jul 18, 07 2:20 am  · 
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grid

rationalist - what do you have for sale? any good furniture? send me an email and i may take some stuff off your hands.

Jul 18, 07 2:29 am  · 
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o d b

what to do:

i skipped most of the entries, so if this doubles w/ what other people say, i'm sorry...but i recently made a big move and this helped me out:

wait until the absolute possible last minute, drinking and hanging with your friends up until that point to reduce the stress. when that moment arrives, pack what you can and throw the rest away. it's quite liberating actually.

Jul 18, 07 5:27 am  · 
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WonderK

no no NO.....DON'T screw LA and its lack of public transit! THIS new grad student will be taking advantage of all the public transit that Lost Anjealous has to offer. I have taken public transit in some strange places before, I think I can handle it there. (If I can handle the piss-smell in San Fran buses, I can handle LA)


I have several lists, btw. They are:

*Accounts to close
*Places to change address
*outstanding issues regarding transportation (everything to do with my bike, car, and future/potential scooter)

Jul 18, 07 8:51 am  · 
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cf

I was wondering when someone would start to make standards and conventions for existential experience... funded by the AIA? Will we have a set of codes published?

Jul 18, 07 9:50 am  · 
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woot! I'll get on that tonight, grid.

Jul 18, 07 10:27 am  · 
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xacto

wtd, probably my favorite studio moment at penn last year was working into the morning, while it was snowing outside. we turned out the overhead lights and worked in silence with our desklamps on. it was a very settling and peaceful moment in the craziness that led up to mid review.

im biased though because i've always loved the snow. its not as bad as it sounds.

Jul 18, 07 11:33 am  · 
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FRO

I'll second what o d b said- cause you'll ALWAYS have things to stress about, but the friends and life you have where you still are will never again be what they are now so savor it.


WTD- did you take that picture at the start of this thread? I love the depth of field (or lack thereof)

Jul 18, 07 11:46 am  · 
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KEG

rationalist: i feel the same re: LA's+my expiration date. It's not that i'll never be back, but i am sooo ready for a change. It's a magical city that i have learned a lot from, but both my sole and my education needs a new perspective- i can just feel it.

WK- you're gonna love it- don't worry. I loved it for years. Plus, you'll be on the west side and in a sick loft- a much better existence than me living in the San Pornando Valley. I envy your commitment to be car free and think you'll see the city from a different perspective.
My favorite LA poet (Mike-the-poet) inspires:
Is it the sunshine or catastrophes, flash floods or the traffic, the magic Of Los Angeles makes music. Los Angeles Makes magic..
the muse of Los Angeles Makes artists get active.

listen to his work and i dare you to not be inspired about the possibilities here...

Myriam: i think the snow will be magical, i just kinda freaked out when [shallow girly convo alert] I bought a new pair of shoes and someone told me, "You won't be wearing those in Philly when it snows"....then i realized my experience with snow is a decade+ of a week in Tahoe every Christmas w/ a few scattered weekends in Big Bear. I don't know how to live in the snow and I can't imagine my snowboard gear is appropriate daily garb ;) So i googled snow shoes and saw these two things:


Am I destined to wear Fugs all winter? Apur's not making it sound any better...

odb: that's usually how i roll and I'm really trying to be prepared so that i don't induce a heart attack. But you're right, it will get done- even if I wait to pack the last day or two....and that definitely make me get rid of more crap cause i don't want to deal with it.

xacto: it's sounds so neat and I do, I LOVE the snow and i am very excited. honestly, i know people make school decisions on weather, but i obviously didn't cause who would move from SoCal to Philly for the weather? Also, for the first time in nearly 2 decades, i will live somewhere w/ proper seasons....that is so rad. Even visiting Penn in April, with all the blossoms out in the crisp air, was so inspiring.

Jul 18, 07 11:49 am  · 
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KEG

FRO: no, i jacked the pic cause it was so neat.

Jul 18, 07 11:50 am  · 
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FRO

good choice. this was my theme picture (is there such a thing?) when I fled Pittsburgh for New Mexico after arch. school and that one reminded me of it..

Jul 18, 07 11:58 am  · 
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WTD, I had that same experience going up to Seattle for my interview in March. All the cherry blossoms were out, the city, and of course campus which is practically one huge park, was fucking gorgeous. And I even got the full sampling of Seattle weather: first day was beautiful and sunny, the second day it poured, then the day I left it was kind of spotty.

I also get to enjoy WonderK being around for my last month in LA, which is nice. Well, nice for me anyways. Watch, she'll get here right when my stress level kicks into super-high gear.

Jul 18, 07 11:59 am  · 
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THANK YOU TUMBLES!!! That kicks ass.

Jul 18, 07 12:02 pm  · 
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WonderK

I'm freaking out because.....well, I can't stand the snow. I hate the cold in fact. I'm so glad I get to have sunshine for a loooong time....

But I'm freaking out because everytime somebody from LA opens their mouth they start talking about damn snowboards and skiis. Why the hell does everybody snowboard? I am serious, I can't even *stand up straight* on a snow board. We just don't really care abou that here. And I like skiing well enough but I'm experiencing a bit of a disconnect with the whole "LA snowboarding phenomenon".

In my estimation, I have been busy spending my money on a wide array of cold weather acoutrements, while the SoCal people were lucky enough to spend that money on very specific cold-weather sports items. I would trade you but my winter coats are the only things that are already in LA. So that's funny.

Jul 18, 07 12:06 pm  · 
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WonderK

Ps. I love you guys but this thread's commisseration is going to cause me even more anxiety, I just know it.....

tumbles I can't imagine that your boxes would be that heavy. Metal framing is not that heavy, and your insulation will be very light.....

Jul 18, 07 12:11 pm  · 
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oh- if you want a blue and white ski jacket, it's all yours. I tried the snowboarding thing, and frankly the mountain kicked my ass every time. On the other hand, I am planning some major labor-day-sales shopping at Macys and REI for the more standard cold weather accoutrements.

Jul 18, 07 12:12 pm  · 
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oh, and on weight and boxes, I think it all depends on how many people you're planning to have inside the box at a time.

Jul 18, 07 12:12 pm  · 
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KEG

dubK...i think it's that obsession with "I can snowboard in the morning and spend the afternoon at the beach". SoCal-ers are obsessed with this mantra. I've skied and snowboarded for a good 15 years as its an easy weekend trip. See, when you live in other states, you can drive for 4 hours and be in another state- a completely different environment. When you drive for 4 hours in LA...you're lucky to be out of the Inland Empire. Our big escape are the mountains...

Jul 18, 07 12:13 pm  · 
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w3

so far my stress has come in moments. i freaked out yesterday thinking about residency. in washington you can get residency after your first year in grad school...a huge financial perk and one reason why i chose to go to UW. i started thinking about every possible scenario that might keep me from getting it...
then i started freaking out about insurance
then i started freaking out about the possibility of spilling coffee on my new laptop...

i'm better today - we'll see how long that lasts until someone here mentions something that i haven't thought of yet.

Jul 18, 07 12:30 pm  · 
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KEG

...tumbleweed... you're doing 8' ceilings, right (+6" floor +6"ceiling) to save time and material? did you figure out how to vent them yet?

BTW, not sure if you decided how to edge or install the panelite, but I just edged mine with simple clear anodized aluminum brake metal that I ordered to fit (attached w/ clear silicon) and it looks sick! it's super clean and was cheap...

In case you need a source:
Lindblade Metalworks, Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670 Phone: (562) 921-2615

ya...I always snowboard with boys ;)


w3: i love that your anxiety takes form, as does mine, in irrational thought processes. I waste a lot of time worrying about what-if's...

Jul 18, 07 12:40 pm  · 
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w3

wtd - WHAT TO DO! i suppose that being cursed to always suffer through all the what if's makes us better designers. i like to think so :)

Jul 18, 07 12:47 pm  · 
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tumbles- so UCLA decided to recognize you as a resident? I remember we talked about this when you were trying to build your case for it, but I didn't remember that you'd gotten the result.

w3- when are you arriving in WA? I'm going to spend all my break times during the TA training conference dashing to places like the DMV, getting registered to vote, library card, all that fun resident-proving type documentation. Don't worry about it too much though, I seem to remember there was actually a one-month sort of slush-time as a result of being able to apply for residency retroactively a month into the school year. So that seems to give a bit of leeway.

Jul 18, 07 12:47 pm  · 
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KEG

oh yeah...ad to list...

note to self:
MAKE AN EFFIN' DECISION AND JUST BUY A GD LAPTOP...I have been agonizing over this for 6 months. I'm not deciding on whether or not to have a baby- it's a freakin' computer.

oh yeah, and figure out loans cause i am wayyyy behind on that.

Jul 18, 07 12:48 pm  · 
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I can't buy my laptop until I sell my car...

And loans, are apparently rather automatic for me. All I'm getting are the Staffords, which get direct deposited to my bank account (after UW takes their share). Then I turn around and pay Sallie Mae with them. But I'm a little wierded out that my undergrad loans are just supposed to automatically defer... seems like there's got to be something I can do to make absolutely positively 100% sure that the deferral is going to happen.

Jul 18, 07 12:51 pm  · 
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KEG

yeah, i'm taking a prereq at PCC and i got a letter yesterday saying my loans were deferred (even though I didn't ask them to), so I guess it is automatic. Kinda freaky how all the companies know everything.

are you getting a macbook pro?

Jul 18, 07 12:54 pm  · 
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w3

R - we're planning on showing up the first week in sept. (ish). nothing is in stone yet. we have found a place though! we're actually in the u-dist. my sister helped us find it - a nice little 1-br below a house (family above). 15 min. walk to studio. we start paying rent aug. 15th.

yeah, after i looked back through the "establishing a bona fide domicile" instructions i felt a lot better about it. regardless though i'll prob. be worried about it until i get my bill as "resident" fall of 2008.

Jul 18, 07 12:55 pm  · 
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lucky w3! I'm still on the hunt. I posted a 'housing wanted' ad on craigslist, and have gotten some freaky responses, one good one, and one decent one. So hopefully one of those two will pan out, but I'll be worried until I've got a deposit down on a place I've seen in person. I won't be in town until the day before TA training starts, though I'm visiting Aug 15th-17th to get this stuff lined up.

WTD- yup, 15.4" refurbished MacBook Pro. I'll probably give my old Dell to my mom.

Jul 18, 07 1:02 pm  · 
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w3

after UW takes their share of my loans, I'm going to get about $5.

Jul 18, 07 1:03 pm  · 
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My loans should cover 1/3 of my living expenses, savings another 1/3, and hopefully I can find a job that covers the rest.

Jul 18, 07 1:05 pm  · 
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KEG

hmm...refurb, hadn't considered that (it was save quite a bit). decisions decisions. I have the money set aside right now, but I just can't decide.

btw, I just got the title to my car. I paid it off a few weeks ago so make the transaction process smoother (without having to deal w/ a lender). Now, i have to figure out timing to get a couple things fixed, get it detailed, and to sell it...man, it will be nice to have that cash in hand.

Jul 18, 07 1:13 pm  · 
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