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if you wear camper shoes do you become a better architect :)

Serkan Ennac

if you wear camper shoes do you become a better architect :)

 
Jan 16, 07 7:40 am

My hunch is almost certainly. Except I don't know what camper shoes are. I have two pairs of tan leather boots I'm very fond of; sort of the footwear equivalent of the SUV.

Jan 16, 07 8:20 am  · 
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jbirl

if you don't know what camper shoes are, is there any hope of even being an architect?

Jan 16, 07 8:34 am  · 
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I struggle, jbirl... I'm haunted by the spectre of not knowing what I don't know. But at least I know I don't know what camper shoes are. I'll put it down as an aim on my professional development plan to inform myself ;-)

Jan 16, 07 8:39 am  · 
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Serkan Ennac

[url=http://www.camper.com/web/en/home.asp?idioma=2[/url]

sorry guys..things don't go there like, it does in turkey..i didn't know :)

Jan 16, 07 8:54 am  · 
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rt m.

of course they do, what a question...

and don´t forget the swatch watch and the ipod.

Jan 16, 07 9:24 am  · 
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90265

i love camper shoes

Jan 16, 07 9:36 am  · 
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larslarson

i have two pairs of campers...they may not make me a
better architect, but they do make me happy.

Jan 16, 07 9:46 am  · 
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larslarson

i also had no idea that people in the u.s. didn't know what
campers were...there've been ads about campers in mags
for years...and we have a store here in nyc...i would've thought
they have em in other towns as well.

Jan 16, 07 9:48 am  · 
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robust84

campers are soooooo 2001

that said, they never really went out of style, and i think they're ready for a big comeback

Jan 16, 07 9:50 am  · 
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larslarson

i live in retro waiting for things to come back in style

Jan 16, 07 10:01 am  · 
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ochona

uh no. but they will make you look like every other architect you know.

blundstone boots, on the other hand, will make you a better architect, since you'll be able to walk your muddy jobsites with impunity, knowing that your boots are waterproof and can be wiped off very easily when you have to go out on a date later on.

Jan 16, 07 10:39 am  · 
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Chili Davis

I do imagine they would make you a better camper.

Jan 16, 07 10:47 am  · 
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I am now appraised of imagery from Serkan's link. I've seen the like before but it's not a brand name I'm familiar with from the UK. We have Doc Martens (very swinging sixties...) that fall into a similar territory although these seam to also veer in a leathery direction to Converses and other trainers (which you guys call pumps, right?).

At least I know now why I don't find camping very comfortable. I thought it was the cramped conditions / insects / cold / poor sanitary facilities / no proper mattress but, of course, it's just that I've been wearing the wrong shoes.

Jan 16, 07 11:31 am  · 
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JMBarquero/squirrelly

WOW solidred.....you never really did see campers in the UK?
Whilst living there I saw a few stores that carried campers, hell I think I even saw a camper store in centre of London.

but the shoe of choice seemed to be merrills, now those are pretty comfy, don't know if they make you a better architect or not, but I sure do like dem! (hard to find here in the US).

Jan 16, 07 11:56 am  · 
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surface

What about doc martens 20 hole laceups? I am thinking about reviving them.

Jan 16, 07 12:06 pm  · 
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BlueSteel

Campers also go well with the following:

Your Frietag messenger bag
Your Prada loafers
Your Addidas sandals with socks and running pants(if you happen to be Korean)
Your Matching Freitag wallet
The one pair of Diesel jeans you can afford
Your snazzy new Ipod filled with "OK Go" and some endless supply of esoteric ambient techno which helps you get through those all nighters with an anti-social dose of hypnosis.
Your 45 Black t-shirts and button down ones for your reviews and when the client comes in.
Your Moleskin notebook which you fill up the first 35 pages and then throw away. Makes you look like you are running off to class at all hours of the day.
Your VW
Your IKEA furniture
Your Scarf you like to wear wich makes you look like Dr. Who
The Radiohead tour t-shirt you bring out on the weekends.
Your "Loop Holes conference" T-shirt (your know who you are)

Jan 16, 07 12:15 pm  · 
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treekiller

a happy archinect is a better archinect :)

if shoes make happiness then the world can smile

Jan 16, 07 12:26 pm  · 
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larslarson

well..i guess i'm just not all that hip..since i do have campers
but i only have the moleskine sketchbook..but i've already gotten
past page 35 and i haven't thrown it away yet. i do have about
20 sketchbooks though that i never seem to get all the way through
just like having a bunch of em lying around.

ms. surface..i think you should totally start rockin the 20 hole docs..
or those dual toned high top converse all stars.

Jan 16, 07 12:28 pm  · 
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My moleskine sketchbook is a virgin. Still in its shrink-wrap.

Jan 16, 07 12:33 pm  · 
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Dapper Napper

I have the moleskine day planner. The limited edition red sucked me in, but its actually more orange.

Jan 16, 07 12:39 pm  · 
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marlowe

What about the small rectangular glasses...They are standard in our office...

Jan 16, 07 12:39 pm  · 
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accesskb

Ofcourse you do. You can travel the world, check out architecture and not worry about your shoes failing on you. And girls are attracted to camper shoes, in my case atleast.

Jan 16, 07 12:49 pm  · 
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BlueSteel

Ahh yess!

How could i forget:

Your corbusier/cokebottle/horn-rim/clear acrylic frame/ insisting-on-making-glasses-an-identity statement, glasses. Seems to go well with the POMO generation.

Typically found on the the more older architect who is trying to strike that more mature intelectual yet whimisical playfull look. Or on douchebags in there late 20's who secretly cant seem to find dates and dont know why.

Jan 16, 07 12:49 pm  · 
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ochona

such a downer. i feel so un-architect-like.

--Campers also go well with the following:

--Your Frietag messenger bag

sorry, regular old backpack.

--Your Prada loafers

can you wear campers and prada shoes at the same time? i can't afford either.

--Your Addidas sandals with socks and running pants(if you happen to be Korean)

not just a korean thing. my HS girlfriend was laotian and she rocked the soccer sandals. of course she was the captain of the girls' soccer team. i of course hated that look, but you don't change those whom you love.

--Your Matching Freitag wallet

dockers wallet, gift from the in-laws.

--The one pair of Diesel jeans you can afford

i can't even afford one pair. not that i would buy them, i'm not skinny enough, and if i was, i'd rather wear the same old target jeans i always wear.

--Your snazzy new Ipod filled with "OK Go" and some endless supply of esoteric ambient techno which helps you get through those all nighters with an anti-social dose of hypnosis.

old iPod mini, and i like mahler for my anti-social dose of hypnosis.

--Your 45 Black t-shirts and button down ones for your reviews and when the client comes in.

i wish i knew what you were talking about.

--Your Moleskin notebook which you fill up the first 35 pages and then throw away. Makes you look like you are running off to class at all hours of the day.

rhodia # 16, 5x5 quadrille, $4.50 at the blueprint shop. takes me about three weeks to fill one up.

Your VW

--close but no. same general linguistic group, though.

Your IKEA furniture

--have to concur on that one.

Your Scarf you like to wear wich makes you look like Dr. Who

--my wife knitted me a scarf that looks nothing like dr. who.

The Radiohead tour t-shirt you bring out on the weekends.

--i've never been to a radiohead concert, although i did hear the one in grant park from three blocks away. i don't advertise my musical preferences via apparel.

Your "Loop Holes conference" T-shirt (your know who you are)

--once again, i wish i knew what you were talking about. i feel so...uncool. but i do have nice glasses.

Jan 16, 07 1:49 pm  · 
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JMBarquero/squirrelly

pretty funny ochona! I must say I mimic alot of the same answers in my own way...but I do have a VW!

Jan 16, 07 1:52 pm  · 
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Chili Davis
--Your Frietag messenger bag

Never heard of Frietag. I have a Kensington, but it's green!

--Your Prada loafers

I have a Prada wallet, but I didn't buy it.

--Your Addidas sandals with socks and running pants

I don't own any Addidas sandals, nor do I own any running pants.

--Your Matching Freitag wallet

See Prada lofers above.

--The one pair of Diesel jeans you can afford

I do have one pair of jeans, but they are Lucky.

--Your snazzy new Ipod filled with "OK Go" and some endless supply of esoteric ambient techno which helps you get through those all nighters with an anti-social dose of hypnosis.

Ipod? I'm rockin' a Dell Pocket DJ filled with 311 tracks!

--Your 45 Black t-shirts and button down ones for your reviews and when the client comes in.

I have only one black shirt, I wear it to night clubs, not crits.

--Your Moleskin notebook which you fill up the first 35 pages and then throw away. Makes you look like you are running off to class at all hours of the day.

I bought a moleskine sketchbook. I hated it. Why are the pages made of cardstock!?!

--Your VW

Built Ford tough.

--Your Ikea furniture

I'm in college, try Art Van Clearance Center

--Your Scarf you like to wear wich makes you look like Dr. Who

I do have a scarf. It's plaid.

--The Radiohead tour t-shirt you bring out on the weekends.

Don't like Radiohead. On the weekends, it's the "Architecture Sucks" shirt.

--Your "Loop Holes conference" T-shirt

You lost me there.

Jan 16, 07 2:08 pm  · 
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I love archinect

no how silly

Jan 16, 07 2:15 pm  · 
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Dapper Napper

--Your Moleskin notebook which you fill up the first 35 pages and then throw away. Makes you look like you are running off to class at all hours of the day.

--I bought a moleskine sketchbook. I hated it. Why are the pages made of cardstock!?!


Thus why mine still has one sketch in it.


--Your Ikea furniture

I love Ikea. I really do. I will unashamedly decorate my home in 90% Ikea, when I get one.

Jan 16, 07 3:15 pm  · 
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JMBarquero/squirrelly

not to sound out of touch (which I don't think I am) but what the F** is a moleskine what-cha-macallit......I never seen or heard of that? And the next question is...

should I???

Jan 16, 07 3:21 pm  · 
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Chili Davis
You should.
Jan 16, 07 3:24 pm  · 
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larslarson

chili and here's your sign..

you bought the wrong one...not that everyone needs a moleskine..
there are several kinds..one has thin unlined paper..the one you have
that has the cardstock like paper..(i guess for watercolors?) etc. etc.
(you want the plain notebook one)

i like it for on the subway and the like when i want a sketchbook
in my pocket. i also use an gridded engineering notebook as
a sketchbook which i like...they're $7 bucks and 1-1/2 times the
size of the moleskine.

squirrelly
i'm sure you've seen them if you've been in any kind of art/paper
whatever store. they're everywhere
http://www.moleskine.com/eng/_interni/catalogo/Cat_int/catalogo_notebooks.htm

Jan 16, 07 3:31 pm  · 
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since when is looking like Dr. Who a bad thing? someones gotta stop the Daleks, and the Dr. is a time lord...

Jan 16, 07 3:48 pm  · 
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Dapper Napper

Lars, I have several as a result of my sketchbook addiction, but I've only used one. You're right about the paper types. My moleskine weekly planner has the thinner paper. I too prefer the gridded paper for a sketchbook, maybe because I'm not a good sketcher.

Jan 16, 07 4:00 pm  · 
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myriam

Ha, I got the red moleskine dayplanner. It was the only one I could find which was a) small and unobtrusive and b) had notes on one side and the entire week on the other. PERFECT, I am in love.

Jan 16, 07 4:01 pm  · 
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JMBarquero/squirrelly

AHH YES larslarson (sounds like a superhero name)
I have seen and own a few of them (the white paper ones without any lines) These are sweet. Well come to think of it, maybe they aren't moleskine....I got them in europe....specifically, in a barcelona bookshop.

Jan 16, 07 4:13 pm  · 
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mfrech

i bought a moleskine journal a few years back, and upon returning home from the store, i realized it was not a journal, but an address book. now my months are not January-to-December, but A-to-Z, and it was the best journal i've ever had.

Jan 16, 07 4:20 pm  · 
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liberty bell

Damnation I wish I'd not been aware that Moleskine made a day planner...now I'm gonna have to get one.

My current sketchbook is swag from a British fabric company - it's got a pink floral pattern on it and believe me it's so far beyond cool because the pink pattern is flocked.

Flock is the new black.

Jan 16, 07 4:23 pm  · 
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dlb

not quite sure why there is all this discussion about euro-trash shoes - such as campers, when the only real footwear, fit for an architect - american or international - is a good pair of cowboy boots.

personally, i have 12 pairs right now, but only 4 in active duty.

i prefer Tony Lama, or Noconas, or Lucchese.

Current models in use are:
Goatskin: - very soft and comfortable from first fitting
Kangaroo: - nice colours, with quite durable skin
Bullhide: - best for site visits
Lizard: - works well at client presentations
Ostrich: - (the underbelly skin - not the raised quill side) again, very soft

Jan 16, 07 4:32 pm  · 
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larslarson

what the flock is flocked?

are there sheep or birds on it?

Jan 16, 07 4:37 pm  · 
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liberty bell

I'm in total agreement, dlb. Cowboy boots are always appropriate.

Jan 16, 07 4:38 pm  · 
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I can't wait till the bumper sticker comes out.

"I have better sex because I shop better than you."


In perpetuity:
"In the future, everything (including what I wear) will be an advertisement."

Jan 16, 07 4:39 pm  · 
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Yes, it pays to advertise!

Jan 16, 07 4:44 pm  · 
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rt m.

moleskin notebook is so last season...

jajajajajajaja

Jan 16, 07 7:08 pm  · 
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the righteous fist

there are at least three camper stores in london, one for every cardinal point you intend to conquer, it's a sloppy kinda tyranny

Jan 16, 07 7:18 pm  · 
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snooker

I'm plain scared to even open the sketch book I recieved for my birthday.....It looks like every drawing in this one has to be ready to hit the press for publication. I have no idea where it came from but it is a leather binding with leather ties, and paper one could easily drool on ....I just look at it and say......one of these days when I'm really inspired. . . until then it sits on my night table.

Jan 16, 07 7:57 pm  · 
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JohnProlly

if you wear throwback nikes you break the mould that Architects seem to fit themselves into:

-black slacks
-black shirt
-geek glasses
-short hair
-simple and minimal shoes
-over-the-shoulder bag in either burnt orange or sage green.
-thin and elegant watches.

said this before and I'll say it again... for being such a creative field, architects dress pretty boring. mostly...

Jan 16, 07 9:37 pm  · 
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nambypambics

My friend has a "NO ARCHITECT SHOES!" rule for guys I try to set him up with... just saying.

Jan 16, 07 11:20 pm  · 
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garpike

Architecture clothing? What's that? ;) LOL :) LMAO

WTF? :P

Jan 17, 07 2:04 am  · 
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mfrech

so i take it that oversized yellow galoshes and a secondhand bearskin rug fashioned into a pseudo man-diaper does not qualify as architecture clothing?

Jan 17, 07 9:07 am  · 
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This thread's beginning to look like a battle between flock wallpaper and the hides of marsupials / small rodents.
I'd go for a mini-computer in fake alligator skin.

I remember failing a project back in the early nineties: the failure due, I suspect, to advocating the return of wallpaper in architecture. See, my problem has often been to be too far ahead of a trend, heh.

Jan 17, 07 10:50 am  · 
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