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Help!!!!!!! 3 hr assembly with 6" CMU wall?

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I wonder if any one knows any 3 hr assembly with 6" CMU wall. It will save us a lot of money to keep the exsting CMU wall between the two buildings. But I can't find any at the 2000 Fire Resistance Directory. Your help will be really appreciated. Thank you!

 
Feb 14, 06 7:12 pm
cf

No listing found.
1. Talk to an official about a variation of UL Design no. U910 for 5 5/8" block.
2. Worst condition, assume no fire rating for the existing block. Use UL Design no. U426 with channels or metal studs.

Feb 15, 06 9:14 am  · 
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el jeffe

have you tried calculating the fire resistance of the assembly yourself?

Feb 15, 06 9:43 am  · 
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cf

Be certain you can prove to inspectors that your existing partition has a documented rating if you want to take the responsiblity calculating the multiple material rating. Otherwise, let someone else make the documented fire rating decision.

Feb 15, 06 10:03 am  · 
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Thanks for your response. I don't know how to calculate myself. I guess it is better to use proved and tested assembly.

cf, What official should I talk to? City permit person or any related organization ?

it's a great idea to just build another 3 hr assembly next to the exsting wall. Since we only have 6" CMU wall on the top part of the wall. The concrete panel below will be OK for 3 hrs.

Feb 16, 06 11:44 am  · 
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dsc_arch

I think IBC 2003 has some info for calculating fire ratings for built up assemblies.

I trust you went through the UL online site.

Feb 16, 06 12:54 pm  · 
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Yes, I did found UL online. It's a great help for a search. Thanks dsc_arch.

Feb 16, 06 4:31 pm  · 
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