I don't understand why the AIA is picking a fight with interior designers. Yeah, we can spend a week researching fabric and lounge furniture and carpet tile, but wouldn't you rather just hire an experienced interior designer to pull something together in a couple hours? Are they going to start going after door hardware consultants next? Oh uh.... Those door hardware people are stealing our work. I mean, those guys don't bother doing proper research on the latest silencer technology. The client really needs to see an extensive study on astragals and sweeps. Only architects can provide a full service for all your keying needs.
I don't understand why the AIA is picking a fight with interior designers. Yeah, we can spend a week researching fabric and lounge furniture and carpet tile, but wouldn't you rather just hire an experienced interior designer to pull something together in a couple hours? Are they going to start going after door hardware consultants next? Oh uh.... Those door hardware people are stealing our work. I mean, those guys don't bother doing proper research on the latest silencer technology. The client really needs to see an extensive study on astragals and sweeps. Only architects can provide a full service for all your keying needs.
I think Interior Designers are trying to move into the Tenant Buildout/Restaurant/Bar areas saying that they are qualified to do the entire scope of work for these types of projects. I could see Tenant Buildouts, but certainly not assembly areas.
If anyone is to spend a week picking fabrics, paint colours and furniture, it's the int-des people. I swear, 5 of them will congregate and "discuss" the latest and greatest carpet patterns in my office before sending off options to our clients. I look at the 30 or so options and choose 2 immediately and move on. How more than 30mins can be spent going over finishes is strange to me.
Josh, I think you're right. Those in my office have become quite vocal lately as to why they are stuck with exempt residential and small commercial projects. They want a stamp equal to ours. I had a project 6 years ago where we had to rescue the client from a professional int-des office they had hired for a building addition. They knew nothing about construction, scheduling, budget, structure, etc... Great learning experience but the move to int-des first cost the client millions more than what they expected.
There is just so much 4 semesters of college can teach you and most of it is spent on finishes boards.
Yes, I am guessing the pdf shuellmi references has to do with a state interior design organization seeking a licensing act.
Interior designers are juts like us in that there are excellent ones and crappy ones. They are *not* just like us in that life safety, weatherproofing and structural issues are not covered as deeply in their training, nor are they held to as high a standard of care in those areas, as are architects.
Yep. Illinois Interior Designers are trying to get a license act passed right now (good luck with our do-nothing legislature) that AIA Illinois is actively lobbying against.
So what is the issue with an interiors license? It would seem to me that it would demand a higher level of training for interior designers which might be a good thing.
Answer: It depends on what's in the budget. To make sure we get enough money in the budget to move the columns we'll have to pick the most outrageously expensive bookcases we can find, then we'll VE it down to something less expensive and use the extra money in the budget to deal with the columns.
He messaged me during the first absence. Said he was busy, and not actually banned.
I really hope Rick can take some time off and work on getting some perspective. If this is the career field he wants to be in, he needs to make some moves that put him on the right track. All of his moves seem sideways, with no forward progress. I say, "Good luck Rick. Stay away for a while. It will be good for you."
Not a trick question. Answer: Yes, one can simply use the "erase tool" to get rid of columns while space planning interiors.
Next question: Are there invisible "things" that connect to toilets and other plumbing fixtures that you can't see? <- a version of that question is actually on the test, for real.
I'm just kidding, I know some good interior designers, luv u guys/gals!
its D. there are accredited degress for interior design and relevant state code im NYS at least that clearly indicates what an interior designer can and cannot do.
Select colors and finishes. Research all model, product and stock numbers. Write these down by hand. Make sure no one can read your writing. Refuse to do any sort of schedule or specification, because "designers don't draw". Quit your job because, life changes.
Maybe he really is banned this time. The screen shot he posted in this thread last night of a million-word homophobic Reddit rant seems to have disappeared - so at least maybe a moderator has him on their radar.
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French Toast, love it!
Yum crepes. My husband made me banana pancakes yesterday, but I prefer crepes.
crepes with Nutella!
Waaait.....there is something funky with the app vs. the computer interface. My post to Olaf was supposed to look like this:
shuellmi I'd like to see that AIA pdf if you can find it.
Olaf: Do you like French toast? <silence>
Aren't "french-toast" renamed freedom toast?
freedom toast with American Malple Syrup! looks like html code Donna....wait you know the youtube jam i am referencing? the kids love it
Crepes with sliced fresh strawberries and whipped cream!
If anyone is to spend a week picking fabrics, paint colours and furniture, it's the int-des people. I swear, 5 of them will congregate and "discuss" the latest and greatest carpet patterns in my office before sending off options to our clients. I look at the 30 or so options and choose 2 immediately and move on. How more than 30mins can be spent going over finishes is strange to me.
Josh, I think you're right. Those in my office have become quite vocal lately as to why they are stuck with exempt residential and small commercial projects. They want a stamp equal to ours. I had a project 6 years ago where we had to rescue the client from a professional int-des office they had hired for a building addition. They knew nothing about construction, scheduling, budget, structure, etc... Great learning experience but the move to int-des first cost the client millions more than what they expected.
There is just so much 4 semesters of college can teach you and most of it is spent on finishes boards.
Yes, I am guessing the pdf shuellmi references has to do with a state interior design organization seeking a licensing act.
Interior designers are juts like us in that there are excellent ones and crappy ones. They are *not* just like us in that life safety, weatherproofing and structural issues are not covered as deeply in their training, nor are they held to as high a standard of care in those areas, as are architects.
A license for what?
A license to limit competition, of course.
Trying to differentiate between Inferior Designers and Interior Desecraters is a serious thing. One might steal work from the other.
NCIDQ sample question: Can existing columns be moved to make room for bookcases? Y/N.
What's wrong with that? Ha ha.
Tintt, that's a tricked question. The answer is yes, but only if it allows the bookcase's chi to properly align itself with the space's chakras.
He messaged me during the first absence. Said he was busy, and not actually banned.
I really hope Rick can take some time off and work on getting some perspective. If this is the career field he wants to be in, he needs to make some moves that put him on the right track. All of his moves seem sideways, with no forward progress. I say, "Good luck Rick. Stay away for a while. It will be good for you."
Not a trick question. Answer: Yes, one can simply use the "erase tool" to get rid of columns while space planning interiors.
Next question: Are there invisible "things" that connect to toilets and other plumbing fixtures that you can't see? <- a version of that question is actually on the test, for real.
I'm just kidding, I know some good interior designers, luv u guys/gals!
Next question:
When laying out interior partitions, do you dimension from:
A. gridlines, but only randomly
B. outside edge of furniture
C. inside edge of carpet tile pattern
D. in counter-clockwise alphabetical order using the finish board colours.
its D. there are accredited degress for interior design and relevant state code im NYS at least that clearly indicates what an interior designer can and cannot do.
yes, 1 to 35 is an acceptable scale.
apparently the link is no longer available, i assume there were some angry emails....
(probably with spelling and grammar errors)
Found researching potential firms today.
Dude is everywhere.
lol- collaborating...
Maybe he really is banned this time. The screen shot he posted in this thread last night of a million-word homophobic Reddit rant seems to have disappeared - so at least maybe a moderator has him on their radar.
He's gone. Confirmed.
so, can we go back to arguing over crepes?
Crepes with lemon juice and powdered sugar are second best.
What about with a little Grand-Marnier?
I've not tried it. Is it good?
It is if it's early in the morning. ummmm....
my favorite is still ham and gruyère... but with ample (canadian)maple syrup.
i love nutella and bananas on crepe.
I like my crepes savory.
Nutella + Banana is good on just about anything though.
crepes with heavy dose of butter and cinammon and sugar.
^ shit, olaf, you do that on wonderbread.
lmao. yes.
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