i vote we let this thread continue until it needs to, no breaking it up like last year. if you want to be up on the latest, just bookmark the latest page and refresh it every few days. my 2 cents.
For those of you that are feeling despondent, I can say that as someone who went through this half a decade ago, it matters very little where you end up. Please have courage.
vigggo - I absolutely think it's acceptable for ANY school to send a hard copy. You put in money, effort and dedication to send an application their way - it's just damn tacky to only send an email. I might understand if an email is followed by a letter, but this is an Ivy League school we're talking about here - they have money for some paper and some postage. Seriously.
To add to woes, I got the official letter from UVa that I've been rejected. Awesome. Hardly abbreviated, it essentially said, "this year we had a lot of great applicants, sorry you weren't chosen, bye." I don't understand the lack of effort some of these schools are putting in...
after all the posts this morning about columbia rejections, i come home early from work and nothing... i think my mailman only delivers mail every couple of days or something, i'm pissed... about not getting my rejection from a school i don't really like? this whole process is messed up and unhealthy
e-jected by the big p once again. eh, i had come to the conclusion that not even the money was worth it... imagine 3 years with the same ten people... any rejections from yale yet? columbia acceptances?
and btw weren't most of these schools supposed to take decisions on or after april 1st? i want to claim back my m.arch.-free month!!
just in case, does anyone know of people who did or did not get accepted to schools after being wait listed? i'm sure it varies by school...but any examples?
I got wait listed at a school last year and called the director up and asked him to give it to me straight. basically, I had other schools to make choices about and didn't have time to wait and see if I got in or not. I chose another school, but got a acceptance letter from that school after I spoke with him on the phone explaining how I did want to go there. It was too bad the acceptance letter came after the date I had to tell other schools if I was coming or not. it worked out because I like where I am.
wilday, I went to wolverine access and I could not find the 2G post anywhere... where are you looking? Thanks for the info...I hope this is not a bad sign
i'm waiting on yale too...i've decided that they are working there way down some sort of list...i just hope it wasn't alphabetical...because i like to be on it...
salparadi, it looks like they don't have it posted yet (or so I hope) I guess if it did not show up Friday I don't need to check it til Monday... thanks for the heads up...
wilday: in my M.Arch program there was nobody from the wait list in my year, or in the next. But the year after that there was a lower than normal number of accepted people who decided to attend, so the school took 3 or 4 people from the wait list in order to fill some spaces. They made this decision fairly late, so some of the people contacted first from the wait list decided they didn't want the spot.
The people who did come from the wait-list had all accepted offers from other schools already, which meant that they had to tell those schools they'd changed their minds, and they lost their deposits to those schools. This in turn may have created spots at those schools that could be filled with wait-list candidates....
I knew a lot of people who applied to their top-choice sets of schools multiple times - sometimes being wait-listed one year but rejected the next. Most were accepted eventually at someplace they were happy with, though sometimes it took 3 years of trying.
Quoting j: "why are people saying that they've applied to schools where they don't really want to go? also, they've applied to schools that they haven't visited."
I imagine that I speak for a lot of people here in saying that, I think a lot of us have realized that we really want to study architecture but we aren't quite of ourselves. Perhaps we've known it from an early age, perhaps we've only recently sorted it all out in our heads. Perhaps you only recently mustered the courage to break free from your parents will to make you go to vet school, or pre-med, or any of the various other tales on these boards.
Whatever the case, you find yourself drawn to the study of buidlings...of spaces...of design...and on and on. When you get back from a trip anywhere, your photos contain zero pictures of people or family or friends, just buildings, and joints, and moldings. When you go to a book store, you walk past the bestsellers and head right for the shiny coffee table books of buildings or architects, whether you like them or not (to drool or scoff). Maybe it's not that obvoius. Maybe it's just something that you think about all the time in the back of your mind, what if?
Whatever the case, whether you can easily explain it...whether it's something a bit more ineffable...you know you want to give this a shot. And for whatever reason, you've decided that now is the time to go for it. However, you're not always sure how. You need to go to a school. You know this. There are dream schools, and there are those further down the list. There are tons of schools you've never even heard of. The list you compile isn't always based on preference for a school, but it might be based on how sure you want to be that you can keep pursuing this passion. Maybe you've been out of school for a long time and now is your only shot. Maybe you are coming from a completely different background and you really want to make sure you get in. Maybe you just aren't sure that the really sketchy oil painting you put in your portfolio was such a good idea. So, you apply to the dream schools. You also apply to some schools that you think you have a good shot at. Would you be as happy going there...probably not early on. Do you care? Yeah, a little bit. But you want that fallback. Because you know the GSD might not see your potential (esp. with some of the amazing portfolios you've seen on this site)....but also because you aren't really sure of it yourself. It's a bit of a letdown, sure. But only for now. You put that lower choice there because you knew that there was a good chance you might not get your dream school, but you weren't going to let that get in the way of your dream (that part made me a bit ill, but whatever). We all have our reasons for applying to a spectrum of schools, let's just hope after this thread drops off the boards sometime later this spring we still see all these same names on this site asking what shade of black to wear on their first day of school.
maybe good news for everyone waiting to hear from yale?
at work today some woman came in and her address was new haven. i asked her if she happened to be involved with yale's arch. department (not unlikely given the clientele of my place of employment) and she said her husband was. i mentioned that i have yet to hear, but i know some people have already been accepted. she said they don't contact all admitted students at once. and that some people get phone calls, others letters or emails.
maybe this will just give some of us (including me!) false hope, but i thought i'd share.
THANK YOU! you gave me some hope still. though i'm all but resigned to rejection now. i will now compulsively check my mail for the second time today...
How odd that some get phone calls, some letters, some e-mails, some a strange combination of the above. I don't get it. I think this was a process that was much easier a few years ago when there was no blog to confirm or deny rumors. You just had to wait until something showed up. No rumor mill. But, at the same time, checking this posting hs certainly given me something fun(ish) to do while waiting.
people keep saying that it will all be over in a few weeks and all the months of speculation and uncertainty will be over, but until we all actually get there....we're holding our collective breath. Then, in a few months from now, as we are all sitting in studio at 2am on a saturday, reeking of caffeine and plain pizza slices, we'll look back and appreciate our shiny happy visions of grad schools we all have right now. I'm gonna try to keep that shiny happy perspective well into wherever I may end up.
not everyone at princeton gets that much money. i was accepted last year for MarchII and (in a decsision that i still sometimes regret) decided to go elsewhere. their initial offer to me was only 1/3 of tuition...they raised the offer after i proved financial need...but i was told that MarchII folks usually get a little less money.
When I was rejected by Yale-this was four years ago-I got a letter only and it was pretty nice as much as those things can be-they did the whole "we had so many applicants and many good people had to be denied blah blah blah cakes" What freaked me out a bit was that I received it so quickly after I sent in my stuff that they must have really thought I sucked. And it was the first letter I got from any school. I really wanted to go there and I had an advisor that claimed to be friends with Stern, so I thought I was a sure thing. But no go. Luckily it rapidly improved after that.
I guess I am an old-fashioned Luddite, but I don't like email rejections-I figure if you put in all that work and money, the least they can do is show you a minimum of respect for your effort and send a traditional letter.
not to be a negative nancy, but I got the rejection letter from UVA on Friday night... the letter came on thier stationary with the green lines and was one page... oh well I must suck... good luck to everybody else
wow... did anyone actually get accepted to uva? At least I'm not alone.
let me know when anyone heard from U-Texas.... thats the last school im waiting to hear from. Even though I'm set going somewhere else, i'm still very curious
and yeah, how did people celebrate/mourn? actually, I think we really should make that the subject of another thread come mid-april. Lots of drunken pictures to come, no doubt
I found myself working full-time this summer, while trying to finish my undergrad thesis. I put as much time into researching schools as i could, but tried to put more effort into my applications. Lets do the math: time to do one more application after you've already done a few: 1-2 hours, additional cost: postage+applicaiton fee+printing another portfolio, versus, time to travel to a school you're considering that's 700 miles away+ cost of that trip.
P.S. sometimes you apply to a school as a just-in-case (maybe it's in an ideal location for you) and then in the subsequent two months every architect you encounter adamently tells you not to go there.
agreed, but according to last year, this week is gametime. best of luck to all. i don't think i could be more anxious, what with waiting for word and starting march madness...
i love this sharing of rejections. now that small envelopes from yale have been mentioned, i'm going to be nauseous until i get home to the mailbox.
but whatever, who wants to live in new haven anyway?
accepted to grad schools yet?
FYI...
University of Michigan has posted 2G decisions on Wolverine Access.
has anyone been accepted to princeton??
i vote we let this thread continue until it needs to, no breaking it up like last year. if you want to be up on the latest, just bookmark the latest page and refresh it every few days. my 2 cents.
viggo...yes
For those of you that are feeling despondent, I can say that as someone who went through this half a decade ago, it matters very little where you end up. Please have courage.
sorry Janosh, I'm calling bullshit on that
vigggo - I absolutely think it's acceptable for ANY school to send a hard copy. You put in money, effort and dedication to send an application their way - it's just damn tacky to only send an email. I might understand if an email is followed by a letter, but this is an Ivy League school we're talking about here - they have money for some paper and some postage. Seriously.
To add to woes, I got the official letter from UVa that I've been rejected. Awesome. Hardly abbreviated, it essentially said, "this year we had a lot of great applicants, sorry you weren't chosen, bye." I don't understand the lack of effort some of these schools are putting in...
after all the posts this morning about columbia rejections, i come home early from work and nothing... i think my mailman only delivers mail every couple of days or something, i'm pissed... about not getting my rejection from a school i don't really like? this whole process is messed up and unhealthy
e-jected by the big p once again. eh, i had come to the conclusion that not even the money was worth it... imagine 3 years with the same ten people... any rejections from yale yet? columbia acceptances?
and btw weren't most of these schools supposed to take decisions on or after april 1st? i want to claim back my m.arch.-free month!!
congrats to everyone for their acceptances!
just in case, does anyone know of people who did or did not get accepted to schools after being wait listed? i'm sure it varies by school...but any examples?
a friend of mine was waitlisted #2 @ princeton last year and didn't get in.
thats worse than a straight out rejection. its like blue balls.
I got wait listed at a school last year and called the director up and asked him to give it to me straight. basically, I had other schools to make choices about and didn't have time to wait and see if I got in or not. I chose another school, but got a acceptance letter from that school after I spoke with him on the phone explaining how I did want to go there. It was too bad the acceptance letter came after the date I had to tell other schools if I was coming or not. it worked out because I like where I am.
jdesp-I had a phone interview with CCA and was told an acceptance letter would follow. I have not yet seen anything, mail or email.
wilday, I went to wolverine access and I could not find the 2G post anywhere... where are you looking? Thanks for the info...I hope this is not a bad sign
joe, just login, click on "View Application Status" and then click on "View Decision." I'm 3G so perhaps they don't have the 2G decisions posted.
yo yo. accepted to GSAPP today. e-jected by p-town.
so should we be assuming if no word from yale- bad news?
e-jected from princeton, waiting on yale, gsd, berkeley, penn, sci-arc.
i'm waiting on yale too...i've decided that they are working there way down some sort of list...i just hope it wasn't alphabetical...because i like to be on it...
salparadi, it looks like they don't have it posted yet (or so I hope) I guess if it did not show up Friday I don't need to check it til Monday... thanks for the heads up...
joe architect,
maybe they don't post them all at once, but mine was up on wolverine access as of friday afternoon for 2G.
got accepted to umich 2g (i called to Meghan L.), but wolverine access is still not updated yet.
got my fingers crossed... thanks wilday, jkdes and everybody else
wilday: in my M.Arch program there was nobody from the wait list in my year, or in the next. But the year after that there was a lower than normal number of accepted people who decided to attend, so the school took 3 or 4 people from the wait list in order to fill some spaces. They made this decision fairly late, so some of the people contacted first from the wait list decided they didn't want the spot.
The people who did come from the wait-list had all accepted offers from other schools already, which meant that they had to tell those schools they'd changed their minds, and they lost their deposits to those schools. This in turn may have created spots at those schools that could be filled with wait-list candidates....
I knew a lot of people who applied to their top-choice sets of schools multiple times - sometimes being wait-listed one year but rejected the next. Most were accepted eventually at someplace they were happy with, though sometimes it took 3 years of trying.
thanks, for the info, formerlyunknown. mind if i ask where you went for m.arch?
Quoting j: "why are people saying that they've applied to schools where they don't really want to go? also, they've applied to schools that they haven't visited."
I imagine that I speak for a lot of people here in saying that, I think a lot of us have realized that we really want to study architecture but we aren't quite of ourselves. Perhaps we've known it from an early age, perhaps we've only recently sorted it all out in our heads. Perhaps you only recently mustered the courage to break free from your parents will to make you go to vet school, or pre-med, or any of the various other tales on these boards.
Whatever the case, you find yourself drawn to the study of buidlings...of spaces...of design...and on and on. When you get back from a trip anywhere, your photos contain zero pictures of people or family or friends, just buildings, and joints, and moldings. When you go to a book store, you walk past the bestsellers and head right for the shiny coffee table books of buildings or architects, whether you like them or not (to drool or scoff). Maybe it's not that obvoius. Maybe it's just something that you think about all the time in the back of your mind, what if?
Whatever the case, whether you can easily explain it...whether it's something a bit more ineffable...you know you want to give this a shot. And for whatever reason, you've decided that now is the time to go for it. However, you're not always sure how. You need to go to a school. You know this. There are dream schools, and there are those further down the list. There are tons of schools you've never even heard of. The list you compile isn't always based on preference for a school, but it might be based on how sure you want to be that you can keep pursuing this passion. Maybe you've been out of school for a long time and now is your only shot. Maybe you are coming from a completely different background and you really want to make sure you get in. Maybe you just aren't sure that the really sketchy oil painting you put in your portfolio was such a good idea. So, you apply to the dream schools. You also apply to some schools that you think you have a good shot at. Would you be as happy going there...probably not early on. Do you care? Yeah, a little bit. But you want that fallback. Because you know the GSD might not see your potential (esp. with some of the amazing portfolios you've seen on this site)....but also because you aren't really sure of it yourself. It's a bit of a letdown, sure. But only for now. You put that lower choice there because you knew that there was a good chance you might not get your dream school, but you weren't going to let that get in the way of your dream (that part made me a bit ill, but whatever). We all have our reasons for applying to a spectrum of schools, let's just hope after this thread drops off the boards sometime later this spring we still see all these same names on this site asking what shade of black to wear on their first day of school.
And why not visit first? I'm just poor and lazy.
maybe good news for everyone waiting to hear from yale?
at work today some woman came in and her address was new haven. i asked her if she happened to be involved with yale's arch. department (not unlikely given the clientele of my place of employment) and she said her husband was. i mentioned that i have yet to hear, but i know some people have already been accepted. she said they don't contact all admitted students at once. and that some people get phone calls, others letters or emails.
maybe this will just give some of us (including me!) false hope, but i thought i'd share.
flickbee-
THANK YOU! you gave me some hope still. though i'm all but resigned to rejection now. i will now compulsively check my mail for the second time today...
How odd that some get phone calls, some letters, some e-mails, some a strange combination of the above. I don't get it. I think this was a process that was much easier a few years ago when there was no blog to confirm or deny rumors. You just had to wait until something showed up. No rumor mill. But, at the same time, checking this posting hs certainly given me something fun(ish) to do while waiting.
people keep saying that it will all be over in a few weeks and all the months of speculation and uncertainty will be over, but until we all actually get there....we're holding our collective breath. Then, in a few months from now, as we are all sitting in studio at 2am on a saturday, reeking of caffeine and plain pizza slices, we'll look back and appreciate our shiny happy visions of grad schools we all have right now. I'm gonna try to keep that shiny happy perspective well into wherever I may end up.
Until then.....
this thread will only be one-upped by the: "How did you celebrate / mourn the results of your grad school responses" thread.
the pictures and stories will be epic.
+q-
not everyone at princeton gets that much money. i was accepted last year for MarchII and (in a decsision that i still sometimes regret) decided to go elsewhere. their initial offer to me was only 1/3 of tuition...they raised the offer after i proved financial need...but i was told that MarchII folks usually get a little less money.
When I was rejected by Yale-this was four years ago-I got a letter only and it was pretty nice as much as those things can be-they did the whole "we had so many applicants and many good people had to be denied blah blah blah cakes" What freaked me out a bit was that I received it so quickly after I sent in my stuff that they must have really thought I sucked. And it was the first letter I got from any school. I really wanted to go there and I had an advisor that claimed to be friends with Stern, so I thought I was a sure thing. But no go. Luckily it rapidly improved after that.
I guess I am an old-fashioned Luddite, but I don't like email rejections-I figure if you put in all that work and money, the least they can do is show you a minimum of respect for your effort and send a traditional letter.
we started a whole new week! it's monday. hope we can hear some good news this week.
not to be a negative nancy, but I got the rejection letter from UVA on Friday night... the letter came on thier stationary with the green lines and was one page... oh well I must suck... good luck to everybody else
i got the reject letter from UVA too. I thought I sucked ...... and this confirms it.
wow... did anyone actually get accepted to uva? At least I'm not alone.
let me know when anyone heard from U-Texas.... thats the last school im waiting to hear from. Even though I'm set going somewhere else, i'm still very curious
and yeah, how did people celebrate/mourn? actually, I think we really should make that the subject of another thread come mid-april. Lots of drunken pictures to come, no doubt
Amen, Strugs!
I found myself working full-time this summer, while trying to finish my undergrad thesis. I put as much time into researching schools as i could, but tried to put more effort into my applications. Lets do the math: time to do one more application after you've already done a few: 1-2 hours, additional cost: postage+applicaiton fee+printing another portfolio, versus, time to travel to a school you're considering that's 700 miles away+ cost of that trip.
P.S. sometimes you apply to a school as a just-in-case (maybe it's in an ideal location for you) and then in the subsequent two months every architect you encounter adamently tells you not to go there.
Got the Yale reject in the mail today.
slow monday......i hate these days, the suspense is killing me
agreed, but according to last year, this week is gametime. best of luck to all. i don't think i could be more anxious, what with waiting for word and starting march madness...
people who heard from yale/columbia- what program? congrats to all accepted so far
Rejected March I
Rejected MArch I
i got the yale rejection letter today, too. so much for my optimism, which i really didn't believe in the first place
oh yeah, that was MArch I there
luciab: accepted to Columbia MSAAD
i bet i have a nice skinny envelope from yale today... :-(
lucaib- no chance you work for SOM-NY?
yep- how'd you know ants? who are you?
yep- how'd you know ants? who are you?
i love this sharing of rejections. now that small envelopes from yale have been mentioned, i'm going to be nauseous until i get home to the mailbox.
but whatever, who wants to live in new haven anyway?
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