betadinesutures, you didn't list the name of your inverted church's author: Dennis Oppenheim. Very nice.
I hate to be a dick, but almost all of the work listed above is really Modern art, not contemporary art. I mean, about 70% of the artists above are dead. Not that their work isn't good and worth knowing, that's not what I'm saying. As architects we really owe it to our culture to know the important Modern attitudes to sculpture and space. God knows Judd and Serra exist in every bit of contemporary architecture!
But “contemporary†work? What about these:
Erwin Wurm - just so cool, the fat car
Ron Mueck - brilliantly crafted scale manipulations
Sarah Sze - quite architectural
Ken Price - you can get lost in his surfaces
Wim Delvoye - makes you uncomfortable in a hilarious way
Just throwing out a few. Of course my absolute favorite is my own Brian McCutcheon, but sadly I don't have any images of his work that are postable. Tomorrow, I hope.
If you know about this set of movies called "The Cremaster Cycle" and do not know what a cremaster is, then look it up. It will put a whole new spin on the movies.
Oh and this guy too: Tim Hawkinson. I love all his work, of course the Uberorgan:
But also this smiley-face thing, the Emotor:
which makes faces at you.
He also did a total Minimalist piece that entranced me. I mean I couldn't walk away from this thing in the gallery. It was a piece of 8.5x11 white copy paper, pinned to the wall, and torn in half to the point that it was almost two pieces of paper. The tiniest strand holding these two halfs together was all but invisible. The amount of tension in my body looking at this thing that was litereally a hair away from falling apart....oh man. It was amazing. (Can't find a pic.)
nevermore...
are you at all familiar with hawkinson's work?
i saw his show at the whitney and it's very, very cool...
very architectural..all about measuring and documenting
his own body/existence...
l.b. i liked the sculpture that he
set up to sign his name over and over and over...
it was a school desk with ticker tape and each time the machine/desk
signed his name it would chop the paper off so at the end of the day
there'd be a pile of thousands of signatures accumulated..
lars..actually Im not familiar with Tim hawkinson..and you may call me biased or ignorant or un-exposed but after seeing his samples I think I dont want to ever be familiar.
well nevermore...if that's how quickly you form an opinion
then yes i think you're tending towards bliss...if that's
indeed what ignorance equals...
what you don't get from those samples is the movement
that's involved in all or most of his sculptures..they're all
mini machines that are designed to change/morph etc...
for instance that face has all kinds of moving parts to make it
smile, frown, etc. it's nowhere near sadistic..if anything it's
whimsical and amusing. but that's just my opinion.
Lars
First of all as far as what you guys (lib and you ) have showed me....
I am of no level to pass judgement on his work but I dont think that Tim hawkinson can be classified as a "sculptor " I would term him an installation artist.
and that can be said for almost all of the favourite sculpture pieces that have been posted here in this thread.
(im only speaking from what has been posted or written abt his works,(..May be I have a rigid view abt what "sculpture" is ..i dont know.. )
Anyways,
I dont know if you can call him "contemporary"..but one of my favourite sculptors is Josef Thorak.( a german sculptor of the third reich)
nevermore, don't think of sculpture as "objects". That Prometheus exists in space. Maybe you saw it in a museum: a slightly moumental space, larger than the rooms you typically spend time in. Was it at the end of an axis? Was it between two large columns? Was it central in a room, surrounded by smaller ("lesser"?) works?
Now picture it in an open field. Then in a bedroom. The "object" changes dramatically, no? Think of these things we are posting as objects that adapt the local space, not objects that exist in a void. Sculpture is about how your body is affected by the way the sculpture affects space.
That Hawkinson Uberorgan makes "music": it breathes and exhales and bellows. The sound is as much a part of the sculpture - and it's affect on space - as the material of it.
sculp·ture
Pronunciation: 'sk&lp-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sculptura, from sculptus, past participle of sculpere to carve, alteration of scalpere to scratch, carve
1 a : the action or art of processing (as by carving, modeling, or welding) plastic or hard materials into works of art b (1) : work produced by sculpture (2) : a three-dimensional work of art (as a statue)
nevermore.
i guess i understand your reasoning...although possibly your
definition is a bit stringent...hawkinson does have quite a few
carved pieces and 'sculpted' pieces as well.
my favorite sculptor of all time is michelangelo by your definition..
also the norwegian sculptor gustav vigeland http://www.anthroarcheart.org/tblk100.htm
if any of you are ever in oslo you should go check it out...just
very cool stuff.
lb..personally my most hated when people use your instead of you're
...although i find it amusing when people use it when typing things
such as 'your so dumb' or something of that nature..
you wrote :--Sculpture is about how your body is affected by the way the sculpture affects space..
but liberty..everything is in some space..every thing in this universe..it exists in some space...right ?..so everything is a sculpture ?..this universe is then a sculpture or is it a sculptor...we will get into pointless semantics if we take that trail.
you wrote about what sculpture is "about"...
thats what its "about"..but from a traditional view point , what sculpture "is "..the word comes from the Latin sculpere..meaning to cut/carve chisel in stone/ wood etc.
thats what I was trying to say...if we talk from a purely traditional viewpoint..
I dont think its right ..if for. eg..i balance three of my pencils in a rented space in an art gallery and call it my sculpture.
I was merely talking about the fundamental use of nomenclature there.("..the word comes from the Latin sculpere..meaning to cut/carve chisel in stone/ wood etc.)
Yep, that Brian guy I'm married to is, as stated above, my all-time fave - but since his website is Flash, I can't grab any of his images. Here's one that exists on the web, and that falls much more neatly into the definition of "sculpture as object":
Not his best work by far, but one that people tend to gravitate to very naturally. (They "get it".)
nevermore at a very basic level if we're talking about art we're talking about intent. If you balance three pencils to keep your hands busy while talking on the phone, no it's not "art". If you balance three pencils because that is the formal resolution of some bigger idea you are trying to represent, especially as a communication with others, well, we're getting close to art though not necessarily there yet.
Yes it's a lot of semantics but ultimately sculpture, to me, as opposed to painting or photography, uses as its first material space. Yes painting et al affect space. Yes everything affects space. Sculpture has gravity as an initial component, as does architecture. And one of the things that separates those two pursuits is intent.
i like claes oldenburg for many reasons, he should be as important as andy warhol when it comes to pop. his work with frank gehry (binocular) is his worst by far.
Thanks Orhan. I have to say Oldenburg's SpoonBridgeCherry is one of my favorite sculptures ever!
Here is an example of a very traditional figurative sculptural work by which I was deeply impressed: the much-disliked Korean War Memorial in DC:
A few key points. These figures are as traditional as can be: cast bronze, very detailed. But their installation is very contemporary: they are scattered, not gathered on a plinth. They are surrounded by noise that is utterly integral to the piece: the sound of dripping and falling and running water in a jungle. Also, they are slightly larger than life-size, which gives them just a slight other-worldliness. As individual objects they are not so powerful. But as an installation, they become one very effective sculpture (IMO – go ahead and blast me for that ya'll – I still love it).
Who is your favorite modern sculptor ?
If you can, post an image of one of the sculptor's more successful pieces:
I have two favorites:
Arnaldo Pomodoro:
Henry Moore:
Richard Serra
(sorry don't know how to post images, I tried though) ;)
... here - let me do one for you ...
Richard Serra
Hope this is one you like !
Calder
Judd
Serra
Beuys
Smithson
Morris
Turrell
^that last one is Kijkduin, located in the Netherlands, not the crater.
and gordon matta-clark among others
chaim gross
the Marfa boys
giacometti
betadinesutures, you didn't list the name of your inverted church's author: Dennis Oppenheim. Very nice.
I hate to be a dick, but almost all of the work listed above is really Modern art, not contemporary art. I mean, about 70% of the artists above are dead. Not that their work isn't good and worth knowing, that's not what I'm saying. As architects we really owe it to our culture to know the important Modern attitudes to sculpture and space. God knows Judd and Serra exist in every bit of contemporary architecture!
But “contemporary†work? What about these:
Erwin Wurm - just so cool, the fat car
Ron Mueck - brilliantly crafted scale manipulations
Sarah Sze - quite architectural
Ken Price - you can get lost in his surfaces
Wim Delvoye - makes you uncomfortable in a hilarious way
Just throwing out a few. Of course my absolute favorite is my own Brian McCutcheon, but sadly I don't have any images of his work that are postable. Tomorrow, I hope.
George Raggett
this thing was qiute amazing...
by m. kapoor at the tate modern
my favorite view was from the bridge in the middle but can't find it just now...
my dog
Antony Gormley, is one of my favorite. The photography and location of his pieces are great.
www.antonygormley.com
Matthew Barney, eventhough not solely a sculptor, has very many sculptures that are essentially props from his Cremaster Cycle movies.
www.cremaster.net
If you know about this set of movies called "The Cremaster Cycle" and do not know what a cremaster is, then look it up. It will put a whole new spin on the movies.
rebecca horn.
magdalena abakanowicz.
sarah lucas.
right now grooving on things that hang:
eva hesse (always)
sarah sze
cornelia parker
love gormley.
say this last time i was in london
and this was a couple of days drive bush from where i live. completely sublime. lots of tour busses though
Another one that I'm a fan of...Mark di Suvero:
link: http://www.stormking.org/MarkdiSuvero.html
Oh and this guy too: Tim Hawkinson. I love all his work, of course the Uberorgan:
But also this smiley-face thing, the Emotor:
which makes faces at you.
He also did a total Minimalist piece that entranced me. I mean I couldn't walk away from this thing in the gallery. It was a piece of 8.5x11 white copy paper, pinned to the wall, and torn in half to the point that it was almost two pieces of paper. The tiniest strand holding these two halfs together was all but invisible. The amount of tension in my body looking at this thing that was litereally a hair away from falling apart....oh man. It was amazing. (Can't find a pic.)
liberty....the first piece was probably inspired by someone's bladder..
and the second piece would probably make Marilyn manson retire to an Amish community.
gosh..that guy ( Tim Hawkinson) is a psychopath.u seriously like his work ????
I <3 Tim Hawkinson.
So does this guy:
whoop de doo for ya libbell !..
I guesss art hath no boundaries after all !
nevermore...
are you at all familiar with hawkinson's work?
i saw his show at the whitney and it's very, very cool...
very architectural..all about measuring and documenting
his own body/existence...
l.b. i liked the sculpture that he
set up to sign his name over and over and over...
it was a school desk with ticker tape and each time the machine/desk
signed his name it would chop the paper off so at the end of the day
there'd be a pile of thousands of signatures accumulated..
lars..actually Im not familiar with Tim hawkinson..and you may call me biased or ignorant or un-exposed but after seeing his samples I think I dont want to ever be familiar.
Oh and how could I forget: Janine Antoni, MacArthur Genius:
Painting a gallery floor with hair dye:
chocolate bust/soap bust, she gnawed and bathed with:
and one for the boys – bathing with cows
well nevermore...if that's how quickly you form an opinion
then yes i think you're tending towards bliss...if that's
indeed what ignorance equals...
what you don't get from those samples is the movement
that's involved in all or most of his sculptures..they're all
mini machines that are designed to change/morph etc...
for instance that face has all kinds of moving parts to make it
smile, frown, etc. it's nowhere near sadistic..if anything it's
whimsical and amusing. but that's just my opinion.
Lars
First of all as far as what you guys (lib and you ) have showed me....
I am of no level to pass judgement on his work but I dont think that Tim hawkinson can be classified as a "sculptor " I would term him an installation artist.
and that can be said for almost all of the favourite sculpture pieces that have been posted here in this thread.
(im only speaking from what has been posted or written abt his works,(..May be I have a rigid view abt what "sculpture" is ..i dont know.. )
Anyways,
I dont know if you can call him "contemporary"..but one of my favourite sculptors is Josef Thorak.( a german sculptor of the third reich)
a couple of my favourites.
"mother with child"
" prometheus"
nevermore, don't think of sculpture as "objects". That Prometheus exists in space. Maybe you saw it in a museum: a slightly moumental space, larger than the rooms you typically spend time in. Was it at the end of an axis? Was it between two large columns? Was it central in a room, surrounded by smaller ("lesser"?) works?
Now picture it in an open field. Then in a bedroom. The "object" changes dramatically, no? Think of these things we are posting as objects that adapt the local space, not objects that exist in a void. Sculpture is about how your body is affected by the way the sculpture affects space.
That Hawkinson Uberorgan makes "music": it breathes and exhales and bellows. The sound is as much a part of the sculpture - and it's affect on space - as the material of it.
Does Douglas Gordon count? His face stuff is a lot easier, just get some scotch tape and have at it!
Oh god my most hated grammatical error and I did it myself, so sorry. Should be "...and its affect on space". So sorry.
sculp·ture
Pronunciation: 'sk&lp-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sculptura, from sculptus, past participle of sculpere to carve, alteration of scalpere to scratch, carve
1 a : the action or art of processing (as by carving, modeling, or welding) plastic or hard materials into works of art b (1) : work produced by sculpture (2) : a three-dimensional work of art (as a statue)
nevermore.
i guess i understand your reasoning...although possibly your
definition is a bit stringent...hawkinson does have quite a few
carved pieces and 'sculpted' pieces as well.
my favorite sculptor of all time is michelangelo by your definition..
also the norwegian sculptor gustav vigeland
http://www.anthroarcheart.org/tblk100.htm
if any of you are ever in oslo you should go check it out...just
very cool stuff.
ahem, how bout that brian guy lb? Hmmm? Shouldn't HE be your fave?
lb..personally my most hated when people use your instead of you're
...although i find it amusing when people use it when typing things
such as 'your so dumb' or something of that nature..
fog l..she mentioned him in an earlier post...
Well liberty ..yes i understand your point....
you wrote :--Sculpture is about how your body is affected by the way the sculpture affects space..
but liberty..everything is in some space..every thing in this universe..it exists in some space...right ?..so everything is a sculpture ?..this universe is then a sculpture or is it a sculptor...we will get into pointless semantics if we take that trail.
you wrote about what sculpture is "about"...
thats what its "about"..but from a traditional view point , what sculpture "is "..the word comes from the Latin sculpere..meaning to cut/carve chisel in stone/ wood etc.
thats what I was trying to say...if we talk from a purely traditional viewpoint..
I dont think its right ..if for. eg..i balance three of my pencils in a rented space in an art gallery and call it my sculpture.
I was merely talking about the fundamental use of nomenclature there.("..the word comes from the Latin sculpere..meaning to cut/carve chisel in stone/ wood etc.)
Yep, that Brian guy I'm married to is, as stated above, my all-time fave - but since his website is Flash, I can't grab any of his images. Here's one that exists on the web, and that falls much more neatly into the definition of "sculpture as object":
Not his best work by far, but one that people tend to gravitate to very naturally. (They "get it".)
nevermore...
(2) : a three-dimensional work of art (as a statue)
your definition is the first accepted definition of the word
sculpture.. but the above has been accepted as well as just as
worthy a definition
nevermore at a very basic level if we're talking about art we're talking about intent. If you balance three pencils to keep your hands busy while talking on the phone, no it's not "art". If you balance three pencils because that is the formal resolution of some bigger idea you are trying to represent, especially as a communication with others, well, we're getting close to art though not necessarily there yet.
Yes it's a lot of semantics but ultimately sculpture, to me, as opposed to painting or photography, uses as its first material space. Yes painting et al affect space. Yes everything affects space. Sculpture has gravity as an initial component, as does architecture. And one of the things that separates those two pursuits is intent.
tadashi kawamata
chris drury
andy goldsworthy
Here's a few more of the work of my favorite sculptor, Brian McCutcheon:
Stud – a 2x4 with auto paint
Exhaust – that's a car exhaust system made of toilet paper rolls. Paper coming out the back.
Those two plus the hotrod grill above were part of a body of work about “manly summertime pursuitsâ€
This one is a little more quiet.
Buddha
Thanks for letting me pimp my husband.
And for you nevermore - I'm enjoying our discussion. Here is a piece more in the realm of "traditional" figurative sculpture.
Mark Quinn
sculpture of a pregnant woman
antony gormley
note how relevant his 'figure fields' are to contempory arch discourse...
This is relevant: Nam June Paik passed away yesterday
i like claes oldenburg for many reasons, he should be as important as andy warhol when it comes to pop. his work with frank gehry (binocular) is his worst by far.
i also like john chamberlain and walter de maria. all blue chip. there are many more i like including Brian McCutcheon.
Thanks Orhan. I have to say Oldenburg's SpoonBridgeCherry is one of my favorite sculptures ever!
Here is an example of a very traditional figurative sculptural work by which I was deeply impressed: the much-disliked Korean War Memorial in DC:
A few key points. These figures are as traditional as can be: cast bronze, very detailed. But their installation is very contemporary: they are scattered, not gathered on a plinth. They are surrounded by noise that is utterly integral to the piece: the sound of dripping and falling and running water in a jungle. Also, they are slightly larger than life-size, which gives them just a slight other-worldliness. As individual objects they are not so powerful. But as an installation, they become one very effective sculpture (IMO – go ahead and blast me for that ya'll – I still love it).
I like the Guy in the Nevada Desert. I just can't rmember his name. His project is like a maya ruin except for this century.
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