My friend got rejected from TU delft. Architecture track of the March course back in February. You heard from UPenn architecture right?

Yes I got an email from UPenn earlier today (M.Arch 1 btw) but still no updates from TU Delft and Cornell

I'm waiting for Delft as well. uPenn sent out a few acceptances for the MCP. I applied for the UD concentration. I haven't heard anything yet so thinking that its a rejection or a waitlist. Considering myself out there

Wish you all the best for TU Delft !

In at TU Delft

if you admitted can you please check my command it is the last one .

Sure thing!

UC Berkeley - OUT

Northeastern - IN

The MCP is coming out on 10th. That’s what they mailed. Has UPenn sent out the MCP replies as well?

Congratulations for your acceptances

Thank you :)

I wanted to clarify that the dean's merit ($$) was awarded through GSD's Landscape Department. If I only accept the M.Arch offer, the merit award does not apply and need-based aid would cover about $$$ tuition. This is still pretty good imo, but I wanted to make that distinction. I definitely used landscape and ecology as a big narrative in all of my applications, so obviously this may not apply to most M.Arch I applicants.

I got into AA’s DRL MArch Architecture and Urbanism course on 28th Feb

Fuck that's awesome. When had you applied? And where are you planning to g
o?

I had applied back in January I guess and I’m accepting the admission for now. Not sure if I’ll go or not. My heart’s calling me to uMich for now. Have 11 other universities’ replies in waiting

Oh okay i applied in December and my heart is here. Good luck for umich

All the best to you

Hi! I got the the admission for Itech program last week :)

Hey did you apply for the UD Conc for UPenn MCP? I haven’t gotten a response yet, should I consider myself out?

Also to help with your decision, first rule out if you want to move towards more research oriented courses or more design oriented things. That rules out the gap between MCP and MLA. Then you’ll have to figure out if you want to research after the masters or work in the field, that helps choosing between universities like UPenn and MIT.

Hope this helps :)

@sanahmengi thank you :) I did apply for the UD concentration at UPenn. The official notification date is March 10 and I'm not sure if they are sending additional acceptances then! Crossing my fingers for you! And for choosing, I ultimately would love to work across research/theory, policy/community organizing, and design. Makes it hard to choose! And I'm not sure if doing a dual program or focusing on one makes more sense. It feels harder to get the design foundation without doing the MLA, but maybe it could be possible to some extent with a UD concentration?

When thinking about working in the field vs more towards academia/research, what do you think between the schools?

I know this is super obscure, but there's a comment thread on page 3 of last year's forum (https://archinect.com/forum/thread/150225328/m-arch-fall-2021-application-status/100) by @Spritzerrrr on "How does one navigate scholarships". If you Ctrl+F that, you can probably find it. Hopefully this is helpful!

Hey @youngearth I think since you got into the UD concentration for the MCP program, I think I’m mostly out only. Also, a professor in the MCP department at USC told me that currently US is in great demand for landscape architecture along with urbanism, so you should definitely not leave design. MCP is more policy based as you can see. The UPenn MCP program is more policy oriented but with UD concentration, you do have a studio for UD. (5 credit worthy).

I think MIT is more academia based, whereas GSD is more towards the practical way (my opinion). Obviously all programs have their own research but this is my opinion. Secondly, UPenn’s program is a mix of both. You decide on your own where and which direction you wanna take

Great question!

In my experience, a pre-professional degree in architecture is not viewed as any "less than" a professional degree in the eyes of most architecture firms. Since school and work are so divorced from each other (most the time), firms are typically training you in the skills and knowledge for real-world work regardless of which education level you enter the working profession.

At my firm, we had someone start after high school and he became one of our most technically proficient staff members (but he lacks the design thinking that school provides).

This is all to say, if you have a preprofessional degree in architecture, you are 100% capable and ready to work in a firm. And IMO this will make you better off in grad school and better off after grad school re-entering the workforce.

Hope that helps, my DMs on Twitter are open if I can help more!

I’ve been accepted to arch programs from a computer science degree and no design background. Do you think there’s
any chance I’d be hired at an arch firm? I’m currently working as a business intelligence analyst.

dougy, honestly I think you might be ~better off~ haha. 

 A LOT of firms right now are hiring design technologists and computer programmers/SEs as digitized practice, digital tools, computational design, etc become standard practice throughout the industry.

Take your background and skills AND express interest in architecture, and I think you have a really persuasive pitch to make to firms.

My DMs are open on twitter if you want to talk more! Don't underestimate yourself.

I guess this advice is geared towards undergrads going straight into professional M.Arch I programs without much thought (in which case I would agree)? Nevertheless, its difficult to time the markets and know when the downturn is going to really take its toll on current building projects, future contracts, etc. As you said, we are already hitting all time highs and are just starting to enter tons of uncertainty, international crisis, coupled with ongoing supply chain disruptions and issues without any resolution in sight. Who is to say these issues won’t turn into an economic crash paralleling 2008 within the next year? Applying to graduate school in the middle of a crisis is also traditionally associated with very bloated application numbers, so earning a place at one of your top choices now could potentially be a wise move. Not to mention that preparing applications to graduate schools and being accepted generally does require a level of self-introspection to know if doing so aligns with your own professional and academic goals - and if the timing really is ideal for your own situation. So this advice is a bit FUD-inducing, over-general and provocative, but I understand the aim was to get a conversation going. Cheers!

The advice was pretty straight-forward and not meant to induce anything: don't go to school for architecture right now—especially the professional degree—when you could actually work in the field right now for top dollar. Frankly, firms are paying exorbitant amounts of money (industry relative lol) just to get bodies in seats.

Yes, based on previous trends, today is the likely day.

Has anyone heard from them yet? Does having heard nothing by now mean rejection already? :((

Have not heard from them. I don't think they have sent out any decisions yet. Otherwise, we would have seen it on gradcafe. Idk about that one MIT post.

Looks like our prediction failed lol. Hopefully next week!

Failed indeed. I waited all Friday afternoon for it. I'm very skeptical about that one MIT post. MIt very behind their normal.

@MTTS which post are you reffering to? The MArch one or the SmarchS one?

I'm planning to write in to get an update if they don't come out by next Wednesday. Will let y'all know how it goes

I'm sure we will hear about both this week

@I.M.Pain - I am referring to the MArch post

I don’t think they release any early decisions for SMArchS? Do they?

Did anyone else get waitlisted at Princeton? Wondering what the odds of being accepted after waitlist are.

very strong portfolio, well done.

I also got into UofT MLA with no funding :< I'm an international student thou so that might be the issue.

but definitely thinking of email them to talk about funding after I hear back from all the schools.

Yeah I was surprised by how low, I'm a Canadian student though. Hope you can bargain if needs be. I don't know if I can do that either, it seems like that's more common with american schools vs canadian ones. I'm still waiting on other results too so maybe if I get better funding, I can try to use that as leverage to bargain.

Best of luck to both of us!

Hey, congrats on your offer! Just wondering if you also applied M.Arch at UofT?

Wondering if UofT M.Arch results are out yet?

I saw one post on gradcafe yesterday. I have a feeling we'll be hearing back any minute now!

Sorry, I didn't apply to M.Arch...I was considering it but I realized I was more passionate about MLA. Best of luck to all of you, hope you hear back soon!

thanks! do you know anyone who's heard back from the m.arch program?

Unfortunately not, even gradcafe is not showing much which is odd compared to the last few years??

Would love to connect anyone accepted to u.mich, I am thinking about committing to it

Why U.Mich over Cornell or Pratt?

Even I’m thinking uMich. Got into Pratt, UIUC, UCLA, Berkeley, AA London, UMiami

Sorry idk how to reply specific comments but @dougy99

I think it just comes down to personal preference. I think U.Mich program is stronger compared to Cornell and Pratt, and I just can't imagine myself living in Ithaca. 

Interesting. Could you elaborate? I got into Berkeley and UMich among others but was leaning towards Berkeley because of the cost and location. Would love to hear both of your perspectives. I come from a computer science background so far from architecture.

My perspective for this is the program, at first. The program at uMich is great, however so is Berkeley and UCLA. However I am also considering the program length. uMich is atleast 16 months, while UCB is 1 year. Work opportunities (on campus), tuition waivers are more in uMich. Faculty is great at both places however, being in uMich(as urban design students), we have more exposure of projects that Berkeley, so I’m inclined towards uMich. (Despite the cold, phew)

I'm also in at the two year Umich arch program if you want to connect!

gsapp in

As far as the average funding for arch grad school goes, yes it is a good amount. However, the question is really whether it is good for you. Can you afford it without having to take on much or any loans? One way or the other the good thing is you can negotiate. If you have some significantly higher scholarship from another school you can use that as leverage, if not, ust let them know they are your top choice but the funding is too low and ask for more money.

It's not the amount they give you that matters, it's the amount you still have to pay that matters. But like MTTS mentioned, good for negotiating.

When did you hear back from MIT? Still waiting…

Today, morning...

Via a call or email?

just email, with information about virtua l open house.

Did anyone get accepted yet?

Waiting for just an y contact ,,,

I'm so sceptical about this post lol

The post is true. I also received a waitlisted email this morning by email. I updated under my original schools list post.

Have the SMarchS results come out?

@MTTS I see. It's just strange that no one on archinect or gradcafe has updated a successful admit to MIT's M.Arch yet. Based on past year's experience I'd expect news to break quite early, with admits notified first followed by the waitlisted hmm.

Yea, it's hard to imagine only one person related to the gradcafe/archinect communities got accepted at MIT M.Arch I. I know they only accept 30 people, but in previous years there were more than 1 single post on archinect.

I know right! I'm really confused that I have not seen a single admit on Grad Cafe. However, one person on a previous post on this thread did say they received a call 2 weeks ago which I was skeptical of at first, but now I'm inclined to believe, but there should be more than 1 person. If they have a waitlist, it also means they have chosen their admits so It might just mean they are keeping their accepted list extra tight and expecting to draw from their waitlist or the acceptances are yet to come out, I expect the latter to be the case.

@IMPAIN DM me I know a little about the SMArchS program

I believe the SMArchS results have been decided already

Yes they have. Just haven’t been released yet. The aid department is deciding on scholarships

Hey sanahmengi, do you know any admission info about March (3.5years) professional program at MIT this year? Thanks!

i have the same results as you so far. waiting on mit and gsapp. why do you think its a big acceptance pool? I've only seen like under 10 admits for the M Arch I here on archinect. from my understanding their class is about 50 students. speaking to students there, I have heard that its an incredible program especially for non-background students! cons would be larger class than mit and gsapp (although smaller than pratt) and living in new haven

I've only heard incredible things from current students, all with a variety of backgrounds. No clue about what the accepted pool looks like this year compared to last, but it's definitely my top choice as of right now. It has incredible facilities and good support for working across grad programs (i.e. school of the environment) and they are generally invested in both traditional and abstract understandings and representations of architecture.

And for the record, New Haven aint too bad

Oh I don't know! Maybe it's just a self selecting pool on the forums? But I am very excited about the Yale acceptance, fingers crossed for the letter about money.

I was in the same boat last year and am in the same boat this year .. crying

hi just an update, i negotiated and managed to get some but only $15k which is the maximum amount they've started they reserve for international students. no idea why I didn't get it the first time, but it seems like they have some reserved although they say they have 'limited funding'. I hope to increase the aid amount by decision day, but also not counting on it...

Hi, this is a year late, but I was wondering if you could share more about your experiences negotiating with GSD. I am also an international student and didn't get financial aid. it is my top school, but without any aid, it would be difficult for me to attend... Do you feel comfortable sharing how you negotiated? Thank you!

One thing I'd remind you of is the option to complete your final three semesters in NYC. From what I know a lot of their grads have plenty of opportunities there after graduating.

I tried that last week and the schools' replies were that they simply weren't done with the process lol - and they sounded pretty annoyed at having to reply my email 

For the schools that you have not received any notice from, at the moment it is still too early. the best thing is to give them time, however if you have not received any communication by the end of next week, it would be fine to send an inquiry email (not a letter of interest). As far as waitlists, stay in touch (1 email), that will let them know you are interested. You can simply send some clarification questions about the waitlist and admittance (I'm sure you have questions), within which you can state that you are still interested. Your waitlist notification likely contained a statement like "Let us know if you have any questions." I know a person who did this with Columbia and was given an admittance after being waitlisted. Best of luck.

Great advice. Cheers.

I visited 3 years ago. Rice has a program akin to Yale that is a good balance of Theory and practical. Unlike the north east coast schools like Harvard, MIT, RISD or others Rice is located in an ufortunate region so you don't get many of the well known faculty or lecturers, however they make up for it in that program still garners excellent educators that are impactful to the field, attractive study abroad opportunities and courses that allow you to engage the immediate context in design build projects. Rice also has the added bonus of having significant financial capabilities so you won't come out of school handicapped by debt. The school really is underrated for how well curated the program is and again that is just because of the location.

Thank you. I don't know much about Texas/Houston but read from other posts that the location does stop people choosing RICE. Would you mind explaining more on how different it would be in east coast academic circle and in Houston? I saw that rice invited Mexican architect to teach, which could be nice also.

The difference is that most of the architects that are well known or in other words the most respected are mostly on the west coast or east cost. New York and Boston especially garner a large number of those firms and educators. The northeast is also quite a wealthy region and art and architecture is appreciated there in the way it isn't in the south or middle states in general. On top of that you have a cluster of the the top schools in the world both for architecture and otherwise within an hour or two from one another in the north east coast. So what that creates is a pocket of respected firms and educators being located there (they don't have to stop working to teach), so all schools in the area are able to draw from that pool for studio critics or for seminars and there isn't a lack. Especially at the top schools you will have Pritzker Prize winning architects or others who are no less respected teaching regularly or as faculty members. Speaking of the pritzker prize, the announcement is coming up in a few days and people like Jeannie Gang (GSD), Elizabith Diller (Princeton) and wildcards like Nader Tehrani (Cooper Union), all of whom have a decent chance of winning the prize this year are all located in the northeast, at these very schools. The thing to remember however is that being a well known or respected architect isn't the only criteria for being a good educator. Rice is regularly at the top of the rankings with good reasoning, even though most of the educators at rice aren't that well known. This of course doesn't keep Rice from inviting certain well known critics, but its just that they can't have a long or regular residence there because they have firms to run elsewhere.

A few of my friends and I got it back in February. They said all students well receive the first letter usually make it and get the final letter.

Honestly, I have noticed as someone who graduated in 2017 themselves it seems harder to land the fancy colleges while showcasing any professional work. It seems bizzare but I had about the same thing happen to me. I worked for hours on my SOP and portfolio and I was really proud of them only to be rejected by most of the top 5 colleges. I think because of waived GRE more kids fresh out of school of applying and they are preferred because of their advanced graphic skills and recent accademic connections.

By accademic connections I mean they were more recently in contact with their LOR people in an academic setting

Just saw Princeton is out too

take the cheapest.

Sci-Arc is definitely a much more experimental/art school than a lot of other architecture schools, but it is still very respected and I don't think it'll put you at a disadvantage to find a job and would be great if you want to stay in SoCal post graduation. Pratt is also a little more on the art school side of things. It really comes down to which program you think matches up to you more. Michigan is a great program and Tulane is really getting good too so no bad options

Just remember folks, architecture school is not worth 6 figure debt.... and no-mater what the school promo department tells you, 30k+/year (or whatever fools these days are paying) is not an investment.

have you heard from ut about scholarhip/ aid?

I just did over the weekend. was given 15k scholarship as out of state student. Hbu?

Same - seems they were released at the same time!

Which way are you leaning?

I'm deciding between Texas and SCI-Arc who gave me a bit more money but think i'm leaning Texas. Hbu?

headed to texas but was between WashU and UT

I’m really just waiting on MIT’s decision now. If accepted, it would be a tough choice between them, Princeton and Yale, though I have a sense of which program aligns best with my goals. I am however unsure which ones has the best academic and alumni network across the whole US and in Europe…. Princeton, perhaps??

Hey zikr! Have u gotten the phone call/email from MIT?

I haven't had any contact from them yet! 

Hi zikr, congrats and your tips and insights are so helpful! I am just very not sure what to do if I don't really have much connections with faculty members and do you think the recommendation letters weigh a lot when you are applying to all the places?

Hi zikr, wonder how you gonna decide between yale and princeton. or are you waiting till MIT's result? I'm also accepted to both schools and awaiting MIT (I applied for MArch I).

Hi Zinr, did you get any email from MIT?

Congrats on all of your acceptances! Have you heard back from Columbia GSAPP MSAAD yet?

67% is not max for the program. i got offered 100% + stipend and they say that's maximum

Yes I also got 100% plus stipend

UPDATE:
IN - Columbia M.S.AAD ($, 20% funding)
(email to check portal update, letter includes scholarship offer 03.16)

Still waiting on MIT…

@hollyl. One of my recommenders told me that he only glances at the LORs and statements when he’s on admissions committees and focuses primarily on portfolios, but knows that some colleagues really care to read the SOP and LORs thoroughly. I think there is an element of luck with who your reviewers are in this whole process…

@fizh I‘m still unsure and will maybe start reaching out to faculty to help clarify. Too bad that the open houses for PSoA and YSoA are on the same day and time. Were you planning to attend both?

@vicyvic + @greengrasshopper The acceptance letter has some text stating “this is the highest offer the SoA provides for students in your program and year.” Are you also in the post-professional M.arch II program?? Maybe I can ask for more then lol…

No I am in M.Arch I

@zikr i'm international applicant, not able to physically visit either one or them. I will join the YSoA's virtual open house. and i just got an email from PSoA that they will try reaching out those who can't join them. if i were you, i will go to PSoA that day since they are kind of "mysterious" (very limited information even in their instagram and facebook). every teacher from my bachelor's school says PSoA is very unique.

i think the PSoA gives more funding to MArch I than MArch II. that's why MArch I is 100%

hi zikr. wonder if you are attending princeton/yale's open house?

My honest opinion is that MIT is doing something weird with acceptances this year. I have only seen one person on Grad Cafe and potentially the same person on this thread say they have been accepted. 2 people, 1 of them being me have said we have received waitlist. So even though I'm confused, i'm going to lean toward keep the hope alive. 

I have exciting but confusing news. If you look at the MArch admissions page for MIT it says "April 1, 2022: Application results released: April 15 decisions due." This is confusing because they already released the waitlist. 

I think that just probably means April 1 is the latest date they'll release results

Between MIT and Princeton - What are your guys' thoughts?

I prefer the program at MIT, but the funding and campus at Princeton

I haven't heard anything back from Cornell MS.AAD yet! I'm guessing they are staggering admissions and waiting to hear back from their first-choice, first round of acceptances before waitlisting/rejecting..? Or have people already been rejected?

I recall seeing some rejections on GradCafe, but the programs aren't listed in the decisions. Just trying to find more information for my friends

AA, a lot of people have been accepted. And TU Delft, my status shows I’m in the last stage

yes i was accepted to AA last month!

it usually takes them a few weeks to reply to ur portfolio (once you've uploaded it to issu.) dont worry! :)

according to the email from the chair of admissions, yale is hosting an in-person open house on april 4th! there was a link in that same email to register for the event

Princeton lists their open house as April 4th as well, on their SoA website calendar at least... https://soa.princeton.edu/cont...

Does anyone know how feasible it is to try and go to the YSoA and this one on the same day? I guess it's only a 2.5hr car drive between...

Thanks for the information!!

Do you have a preference between Yale SoA and Princeton? I'm waitlisted for Princeton :(

Still waiting :’)

yeah also anxiously still waiting

Same here, still waiting :(

Just got mine. Does anyone have a sense of what is normal/what is their max offer?

still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto, still waiting.......

Just got it now too! For the sake of transparency, they offered about 60% of the tuition cost as a scholarship. That is in line with what I heard is normally offered.

Gotcha, thanks for sharing. Fairly similar for me. And still leaves pretty daunting
amount.

Just received mine. Also similar offer!! Hoped for more but alas appreciate this. GSD has offered absolutely nothing..! Is anyone considering taking out a loan/how will they supplement the rest of it? X

Congratulations everyone on your admittance and (hopefully) financial aid..! I’ve gotten a 40% aid from Yale and truthfully the remainder is still quite substantial. Does anyone know if the aid can be negotiated, and what would the likelihood be for a bump up to 60-70% instead for an international student ?

Congrats!! It seems we all allowed our optimism loose and expected full fee waiver haha. I hope negotiation is a thing!

What is the best avenue for negotiating? Just reaching out to the fin aid office?

Also got mine and it’s about 60% of the tuition as well. Congrats to everyone!

got mine also its really good about 60%

hi there. congrats to all! i've also heard from ysoa. 40% too. wonder how to negotiate. write to the dean? fa office?

hi guys, any updates from anyone regarding negotiations about financial aid?

Whoops that was meant for the Yale SOA reply thread lol

amazing! how is it? :)

Not bad! Did you get yours yet?

Did you submit your financial aid forms before the 1 Feb deadline? If not it’s best to check with Andre about it.

No I never submitted the forms. I'll reach out, thank you!

@greengrasshopper yup think you gotta submit that

congrats!! wasn't expecting for them to get back so soon this year since they didn't release results until later in the month last year. did you get an email?

i got an email with a portal status update

Anyone else got the email?

Yes, I did too: accepted. And my friend (not on here) did as well

Will there be more offers coming out for GSAPP?

I hope so lol

Is receiving anything yet from GSAPP a red flag?

Congrats!! I’m in as well!

I didn't get any funding... If anyone is in this same boat do you know if theres any ways to negotiate with GSAPP? I obviously would LOVE to go here its just so expensive...

congratulations! Good luck to your Princeton waitlist as well. Did you attend X University by any chance?

Congrats! Do you mind if I ask when did you receive the GSAPP march1 admission email/portal update? Thanks so much!

Thanks! Yes, I just received it yesterday, March 11 in the evening.

I didn't even know Columbia gave full tuition, Congratulations!!! Do you feel like that makes up you mind now, or will you still be considering Princeton?

@MTTS, Thank you! Honestly, I didn't know they did either!!! I was (and still am) completely shocked. I think this definitely makes up my mind. As much as I was keen on waiting for Princeton, GSAPP's offer makes me feel like this is where I belong.

hey, congrats on your offers! do you know of any one else who has been accepted to UofT?

CMU

Thanks for replying! Which program did you get? Was it CMU MArch??

@samahmengi - Did you receive a decision from CMU ?

@jenishthakkar I received an admission from CMU MArch with a little $...

Same, just got into the MUD program
at CMU. They’re just offering TA, no $ :/

Taubman any day