Hey i have applied to CDP. Haven't heard anything from there yet? Have you applied to any other computational architecture courses

Same here , I haven’t heard yet from CDP. Also, I applied to the Bartlett Architecture School UCL , (MSc Architectural Computation program) and I received offer on February

Planning to go with Bartlett? Because from my experience if everyone is recieving acceptance mail right now from gsapp then they must have sent out CDP acceptance too.

I will be waiting for CDP until the end of March. Have you applied for other courses?

For computational there was uni Stuttgart's itech program, AA soa and NYIT's computational architecture program.

Feels like GSAPP is holding out on the waitlisted/ rejection letters in the event those offered placements turn them down

If you don't hear from them in this 2 week. Then it's a red flag. I applied to MSAAD last year they send rejection mails in april end.
So the bet is you should hear from them right now.

Thanks !

Oh noooo. I wish I can be on the waitlist at leas t

Only undergrad?

6:28 PM actually, they announced recently.

Undergrad or Grad

I’m not expecting anything though, MIT has been releasing decisions for other grad programs for weeks. I don’t know why the S+P would be share this similarity with the college admissions process.

Right, only SMArchS is sitting silent since so long :/ Now should we expect anything at 3:14 or 6:28. This is such a gimmick :(

@sanahmengi Yea I think the entire School has been doing admissions weirdly this year. I wouldn’t expect anything today.

I agree. I feel its the same for Columbia and Cornell too. They send a few admits, then waitlist then sent admits, then send no rejections. Its just all over the place. GSD and uPenn were better. One day, all results out

Just received an email from admission staff to SMArchS Urbanism! (6 hours ago)
.

What did they tell u?

Got in with $$$ !! Asked the office n think theyve been sending out offers slowly from last week onwards..

Bvz7! Me too! I have some questions, do you mind if you can DM me? I cant figure out how to message you

dudeee idk how this interface works as well hmmm… im new to this platform too

congratz to u man btw! hope to see u soon @
open house

Are there any Smarchs computation applicants who recieved an email?

Yes me! I applied for computation!

You got into Urbanism

I applied for Urbanism as well. No mail. Should I consider this a reject?

dont lose hope too soon man, i think they should be sending emails within these few days… maybe wait till friday if still no call… try email n ask

Alright got it

@I.M.Pain were you waitlisted & got off? I was waitlisted and still waiting anxiously.. Has anyone gotten off SMarchS AD waitlist?

Btw the only way I figured out how to DM someone is to find a main comment they made (not a reply) and you can hit the "contact" button.

My friend is also waitlisted for SMArchS AD. Seem like the acceptance deadline for the offer holders is early April. So if there is any move up, we would know by then. But given the total seats are only 4, I don't know how many can move up...

Yeah, they let me know waitlisted people will hear back by end of 1st week of April. If you don't mind me asking, did your friend receive an email, or a call?

Email. But they are not based in the US, so I think it’s why it’s not a phone call.

Got it. Me too. I will keep you posted if I hear anything..

Hi Fuller sorry for the late reply. I got in via email, no phone call at all before the email. And I wasn't waitlisted. I'm a international applicant. Tho I did get a phone call from Arkansas which I wasn't sure was from MIT or not cause my phone didn't have enough credit to take the call. Let me know if you have anymore questions!

@bvz7 could you share your contact details please? I had some questions would love to get your insights on!

I am sorry I am too biased towards uMich, Taubman!

taubman!

Taubman for u

*for sure lol

Not MSAAD but M.Arch instead, but I'll be seeing you around anyway! It's a tight building after all lol

Hey congrats! I just got the update and I'm in GSAPP( MsAAD)! I'm looking to connect with people who are planning to join the program as I'm a little confused in making the decision.

I haven’t decided either….but it would be fun to connect:)

Also GSAPP but M.Arch...Would love to connect! Also, may I ask when did you hear back from Cornell?

Hey congrats! I heard back from Cornell on the 1st of March

@p3_g  I don't know if there is a dm option but I have sent a message via mail

Congrats! I got my acceptance to GSAPP (MSAAD) as well. Did you get any funding by any chance?

Hey Congrats! Unfortunately no funding. I would like to talk to you about it.

@omaf famo Congrats! Nope no funding:/

Hi everyone! Also got GSAPP M.ARCH with no funding, hard decision... can we connect?

Hi Congrats! I also got in GSAPP MS AAD and would love to connect!

On the same boat :(

Even i haven't heard for Ms CDP and i guess I'm out too considering past timelines. But it's alright man. You can excel at other colleges too and maybe more significantly than at the ivy's.

Me too.

I just got waitlisted for Columbia

me too

On the same boat. Hearing from none. ahhh

lol I'm mistaken I'd be over $100K in debt

Hahahahah I love the fact that you came here and corrected that. Hehe. For what all its worth, Columbia is great but so is Taubman. I don't think any degree is worth the debt. Besides, Umich is 2 years and Columbia 3 right? So I think wait for MIT and Yale but you should go with umich

also in the same boat as I received no funding from gsapp for m.arch. I've gotten lots of mixed answers and am struggling so hard because it's my number one and I've always wanted to go to Columbia. but ultimately I really don't know if it's worth it. I also received almost a full scholarship from Cornell so I don't know. I just don't know haha.

@sanahmengi Taubman is still 3! yeah, I think I'm leaning toward not having $100k+ debt. I was thinking about negotiating the scholarship amounts if possible but not sure if that will work out. Thanks for your feedback 

@loo26 Wow!!! congrats on Cornell!! I feel ya on Columbia since it was also my #1. I really like the faculty and curriculum there but idk if I can justify going into such terrible debt. that $100k+ debt could go toward a house or something

From what I've heard, it's definitely worth trying to negotiate with admissions to try and get more financial aid. If you tell Columbia that they're your first choice but the only sticking point is $$ (and also tell them that you have an 80% scholarship elsewhere) they might decide to give you more. But that being said Michigan is a really great option and you'd get a great education there as well. Imo it makes way more sense to go there unless Columbia or another school turns around and gives you a lot more money!

@iiwei - Let me start by saying Columbia vs UMich is not worth a 100k+ debt difference. However, the difference maker is if you are looking to get into a few particular firms and if you are trying to be partially or fully in the academic world in specific schools. However regardless of your direction, remember that you also have opportunities for graduate TA positions and such. Columbia's ones pay anywhere from 10k to 20k per semester, yes per semester and Columbia doesn't consider need based aid until summer if I am not mistaken, so you can potentially get more money, talk to the school and flush out the details. And of course always negotiate, you would be surprised how far it can get you. I have seen a person succeed in negotiating from 50% to 75% funding at Cornell. The fact that you have 80% funding from UMich will help. Best of luck!

Yes! And with money as a consideration, I think someone else mentioned elsewhere in this thread but Michigan is one of the only arch schools I’ve heard of where a grad teaching appointment is a full tuition waiver. I think their site says there are roughly 100 students trying for every 30 GSI spots, so honestly those odds feel good.

Congrats! What program did you get accepted to for Columbia?

I'll be at the mich in-person day next week! No idea how many people there'll be

Would love to go to Michigan for in person, but I’m caught up with work :(

i'll be at the umich open house!

Congrats on Ryerson and Carleton. I am waiting for Toronto, Waterloo and UBC. 

Good luck to us!

Wondering if you have heard anything back? Also applied to the same schools and got a interesting offer from waterloo.

No, I haven't heard back from Waterloo.

Yo could u share ur portfolio? Ill probably be applying to these unis

Congrats! Wish you could share your portfolio, I'm applying to these schools this year too

Final Results: UofT out (I am beyond shocking) but Waterloo in! Super excited to join my dream school at a nightmare location : )

When did you hear from waterloo? Any funding? Are you international?

And if you heard back when did you^^

The was a March 16th acceptance on The Grad Cafe for Georgia Tech, looks like a MArch

GTech send an email a couple days ago with information on their open house. But there isn't an update on their website and the email sounds like a mass email send to all students who got in. I don't know anything about funding.

Got an email from GT on March 16 about acceptance and open house

Which program?

M.Arch !

same! What i am concerned is that they said they will contact after april 22 and it seems pretty late

Yeah thats late.. Just hoping for an offer before april

how come? mind sharing portfolio?

I got waitlisted for MS.RED, wondering the same thing. Anyone know if many people turn down enrollment for their program?

I got waitlisted for the MS AUD, I don’t think I wanna wait so late till 22nd April, I’ll rather go on with my current options.

I got in for the MSAUD program at Columbia on 11th April :)

I got into TU Delft BT waiting for the Holland Scholarships

I think this is a difficult choice, honeslty. It will all boil doen to what your heart says, and how long of a program are you willing to do. Honestly, everyday I get new admits but my heart doesn't seem to leave uMich. I am currently choosing between umich and berkeley (I don't think I am gonna get MIT/ Columbia now), and with every passing day I am loving the research uMich does, so its got a huge influence on my choices.

Such difficult decisions! Thanks for the input. Also am waiting on MIT and kind of annoyed we have all been waiting this long.

Same :/ I’m giving up on MIT and Columbia after Friday. Then I’ll choose from what I have

I think you should also take into consideration where you wanna work! Both are amazing schools but Penn surely has more pull on the East Coast whereas Mich is a major player in terms of the Midwest (esp Chicago) hiring scene.

Oh don't worry, this is the generic reply from Delft. I got the same one and I am sure nothing's wrong with my folio

For the future, if you plan to re-apply, try to declutter it. There is a lot happening that even some of the great visuals that you have get overshadowed. Less is more when it comes to renders, don't put like 10 but choose maybe your best 3-4 per project. Also look at accepted portfolios to that university to get an idea of what they like and the style they go for. For one of the programs I applied to, I realized they liked minimalistic portfolios so I kept mine very simple with 1-2 renders/diagrams per page and was selective on what to include.

Best of luck!

The problem may be that you have too much text, which may need to be improved. I recommend you reduce the amount of words and select the images (very strong ones, quality over quantity) you want to show. Best of Luck!

My humble advice: I think you have too much text and they are too concentrated, try to translate your text into drawings/diagrams with one or two lines of explanations. Go through student works from the TU Delft website and accepted portfolios to see the styles, you can apply that to your portfolio. Also try not to squeeze all images in one page, leave some space, add captions for your image, it will make it easier to understand. Best of luck!!

Also considering UVA and Michigan (and kinda RISD). Are you going to either open house?

Definitely going to the RISD open house and trying to make it to the Michigan one, but I'm not sure I'll be able to. How bout you?

Definitely doing Michigan. Still deciding on UVA. It would be nice to know if anybody else is going haha

+1 give views on unis like Delft, AA and ucl

Hi, to answer your question. I am an international applicant and did apply to AA/ Delft. Got into AA/ Delft rejected me. However I was just applying for the sake of it, I never wanted to go to European universities (esp Delft for Urbanism). This is so because the universities in London, even though are very research oriented (aa for example), they tend to have lesser scholarships and you have to apply external scholarships, when the cost of living and the tuition is almost similar to US. Secondly, Europe offers way lesser campus jobs (like TA/ RA) as they don’t really have that kind of educational budget. In US, education is treated like tourism, and hence they know that a big chunk of money is coming from that, so allocate a lot of funds to education (public universities are highly funded, and private as well). When I was thinking about Eu vs US, these were amongst some of the factors I considered. (There are many more, however I can’t type here lol x)

Tu Delft is definitely worth it! A lot of the people on this forum are U.S. students so that's why you are seeing so many American Universities. The US is host to so many good architecture programs that we rarely look outside, especially since the educators and architects around us who influence our decisions are from these schools, for example most of my professors were mostly from MIT and Cornell and my co workers are from Harvard and Yale.

Gsapp send their acceptance usually at the same time when everyone starts receiving it. Last year i hadn't heard from them till april end. That's when they sent me rejection letter.

I’ve heard from all three of your TBD, however my courses are Urbanism. My friends who applied to MArch have also heard from UCLA. GSAPP is sending out acceptances and waitlisting people slowly. Heard from them yesterday

Just got in the waitlist for GSAPP M.Arch yesterday morning ㅠ!

Oh no… I should be prepared rejections or waitlists. Thanks guys for updates tho!

GSAPP just sent out a batch of status updates (I'd think rejection..) go check!

Yea rejection from GSAPP

I got a status update from UCLA but some how the link of ‘view your decision letter’ doesnt work. It seems an inactivated link. Anybody has same symptom?!!

ugh same!! Did anyone hear back from SmarchS BT ?

My friend got accepted for Urbanism yesterday morning. Do you think they sent out all the acceptances alr?

I dont think so

i thought they'd release rejections on 15th for Grads like last year, but it's still not out....

I’m so tired of MIT. I’ve also heard 2-3 people from Urbanism and a few from Computation get in, but I just need to hear something. I don’t mind a reject as well at this point :/

yea I have heard one of my friend got into SmarchS Urbanism

That’s so great. I’m thinking I should consider myself out

Wow, congrats! If you don't mind me asking, is Princeton offering full tuition?

Yes. It's full tuition plus a stipend

For Princeton, were you offered advanced placement? Did the award letter by any chance say something to the effect of - the amount is the max that the department can offer?

I am quite surprised that you are on the waitlist at RICE.

It says that I was awarded a Princeton fellowship and the maximum offer the school provides. Nothing about advanced placement (that I know of)

Congrats green grasshopper! Would you mind sharing your portfolio?

Hi first of all congrats for getting in so many schools! Thanks for sharing everything and are you applying for grad schools straight out of undergrad or did u have few gap years if u dont mind me asking?

hey greengrasshopper. I think I'm on the same boat with you (international, MArch I, deciding between Yale and Princeton)! I was targeting Yale and didn't really take Princeton seriously until getting their offer with great funding. People usually say Yale is practical and Princeton theoretical. really wonder how true it is. Instead, I have a feeling that Yale is more toward artistic and Princeton intellectual. will follow your thread and hear more comments.

Ah amazing! Congrats. Yeah, that's my thinking too... but want to get a better understanding. Are you planning on going to the open houses?

nah, I'm not able to go cuz i'm not in the states. but i'll join Yale's virtual open house.

Hey, congrats to you too! I was accepted on the 16th with a ca. 20% scholarship they called the "M.S.AAD Scholarship" in the letter. I thought I was rejected at first since it seemed like everyone else got their offers on the 14th... I heard GSAPP traditionally doesn't give much funding for this program in general, but they didn't mention if the reward was the maximum they could offer. I got into some M.Arch II programs I preferred from the beginning and am leaning towards not taking this offer, so hopefully they pass it on to one of you!

Yeah, I haven't seen many people get funding for this program... The fact that it is a 1-year program is personally appealing to me because I am likely a bit older than the rest of the folks I will be taking courses with. Ughhh but it is soooo much money. Anyways, thanks for your reply and I do hope they pass your scholarship on to me or whoever really needs it!

have you heard anything from UT about scholarship/ aid?

I have not, and am still banking on being contacted by April 15th (the date listed in the acceptance email, which hopefully is before then, given that it's also the deadline to enroll...)

Speaking about departmental aid/recruitment funding - not federal aid, which I have heard back on

Any updates?

FYI Recruitment scholarships are out

(and will help me get my choice out faster) - I'm so torn

I am also so torn, between GSAPP and three other schools!! there are a good bit of threads posted from previous years talking about if GSAPP and other ivys are worth it. Seems to depend on how much in loans you'd have to take out/can your parents help, and the cost of living in NY already being so expensive. But if GSAPP has the program you are dying for and the connections you want - that is certainly worth considering

Well it depends. Columbia is an.

Sorry the message was cut, but I was saying it depends on the price tag for Columbia. It's not worth having some crippling debt on your hands but if you can afford it, Columbia is the obvious choice.

I'm also betwene UT and Wash u - happy to connect

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Take.the.cheapest.option.you.clueless.wanker. Prestige and rankings mean diddly-squat.

90k (= 1.5-2 year's salary) for an optional masters that won't teach you how to do real research, and will just delay the reality of professional office life while allowing you to accrue debt that will take a decade+ to pay off?

hard pass.

Which one has faculty you would like to work with/ learn from, and have as future contacts?
Which one would give you the best network of peers during and after?
Do you want to work in the respective regions of either university after you graduate?

For an international student, I think Berkeley has a more recognized name around the globe than UMich. Sounds like it’s also cheaper?

As an international student, I don't know much about the professors except what I could find on the websites, google scholar etc. So I think both the universities have a great pool of faculty. Secondly, network of peers, again its gonna be the same for both, I think the peer network forms better in a degree thats over a year. Next, as an international student, I would want to work in firms like Sasaki, which are towards the East Coast. West Coast seems exciting to live in though. I don't see myself living in either places after graduation. Would want to move to a location on the East coast or LA (if at all on the west coast). And your last point, that's the reason for the dilemma

How familiar are you with a building process? You will learn how to design (only design) as much from top-ranking programs as other programs do. Go for the school that really wants you by giving lots of funding, making your life so much more flexible after graduation. All the schools you have applied to are wond erful, they are spectacular programs, and many of the professors are from prestigious universities, so take advantage of them.

Hey, thanks for the answer. It makes a lot of sense

Berkeley over Pittsburgh over Ann Arbor, tho they each have their charms

Why do you say that?

waiting for polimi too

Funding and Expenses?

Cornell has offered funding( not much though)…Columbia no funding..

Then go to Cornell. It’s prestigious enough and you can always work in NY as well. Columbia would mean a lot of debt. Both are ivys, good names, program at Columbia might be better but Cornell should be bad tho. Also look at the fact that is Columbia’s program worth the investment and debt, or could you get that in Cornell as well. Lastly see the professors at both places, things like that and decide.

I think that's what shows if you're logged out. Is there no option to log in?

You didn’t get a mail? I got rejected finally

I haven’t got any rejection letter from SMArchS AD. Have anyone applied for the same and got accepted or rejected?

I applied to Smarch AD program as well and haven’t got any reply yet…

Hi, I am Sanah. I got into CED and was waitlisted at GSAPP. Rejected from GSD/MIT. Currently choosing between CED and UMich. Let’s connect over this?

Congrats! I am in at GSAPP MSAUD as well but received no funding. I am curious how much scholarship did they give you?

Congrats on your acceptance! The scholarship offered was just shy below the cost of 1 academic term (I do not know if this is typical or not for programs starting in the summer). Message me if you have any other questions. I would love to connect!

Hey! One of my friends recently got accepted to 4Cities and will be starting it this Fall. I was considering it but my interests are more in design rather than urban studies so I'm choosing to do M.Arch programs instead. I can put you in touch with them if you'd like!

congratulations !

Do you mind sharing your portfolio?

Sure but I can do so privately cause I have some sensitive work! Just send me a dm

My senior went to sci arc for the same program. Graduated in the 1st lockdown and couldn't find a job there. So he had to come back to India and work here.

V.Ng you need to give a bit more context with the question so you can get really helpful feedback. Right now the question is left such that the feedback you will get is people"s personal inclinations instead of a more objective take based on what is important to you. I'll start by saying both schools are great, during the 1st lockdown most firms were not hiring and many were letting people go, so that isn't a good baseline for comparison. Next I'm sure you know, the two schools are very different: Northeast coast vs west coast, Thom Mayne ideology verses Monica Ponce De Leon (she was a major influence as a previous dean) . And so much more. There is such a difference that it's not an easy comparison unless you tell us what matters to you because the experience and the direction each would land you after graduation can be different. If it the comparison was Harvard vs Columbia, there is a fine line of comparable elements since they are very similar so even without knowing what's important to you I could give you a lot. So yea, what is your interest, what direction do you want to go with the degree, do you care what coast you will be when you graduate, are there firms you would like to work at or do you want to remain in academia and anything else relevant?

no still waiting

https://www.thegradcafe.com/survey/index.php?q=MIT&t=a&o=p&p=62

try this, quite helpful

so that's none yet....? the admissions web portal isn't even allowing me to log in

hey TU delft scholarship results are out ? which one you applied for ? ( I got into TU Delft BT as well)

I'm awaiting the TU Delft scholarship results...although I guess you're ref
erring to the scholarship you received for CMU....?!

Hey, yes I meant the scholarship from CMU. Still waiting for the scholarship decision from TU Delft

I would be careful to rely on the rankings from QS. Their architecture-specific rankings are not very accurate and don’t take into account the many factors that make this field unique. Many people have debunked that ranking, with immediate evidence lying in the presence of universities without architecture schools in the top 20. I wouldn’t even place TU Delft in the top 10.

Hey! Congratulations on your admissions. What do you mean by 'post-study job experience'? One gets a year to look for a job in the Netherlands but once you get one, there's no limit to continue working there.....right?

Congrats on your offers! Did you get any funding from UofT?

I did not sadly, currently asking for any additional funding/ support but have not heard back. It's quite a substantial amount for international student (3yr MLA)

Got into UofT's MLA as well and likely accepting, I'm also trying to figure out funding because I only got an entrance award in funding that's not significant. They don't look like they give out much funding from my research sadly. I'm a local student though so tuition is do-able in comparison. Honestly, make a decision based on what kind of education you want, location, the professors there who's research aligns with yours, where you want to work in the future, funding (don't get into big debt for this because everyone I know has said it's not worth it). Best of luck!

Congratulations. am in a lot of dilemma and confusion too- between Georgia Tech & Uni Michi. Adv for GA Tech obviously being in big city with moderate weather. Pittsburg is very harsh for students specially from tropics. GA tech is ranked higher for M Arch, in fact CMU does not find a place in DI ranking for graduate studies (which I found it strange, considering the undergraduate course is ranked within top 10)

Ss18 I'm in the same boat as you, contemplating Between Taubman and GTech and I'm pretty torn. Do either of you know much about Gtech's program? All I know is that they're really sustainable focused

What I learnt, GA Tech is more Tech heavy and Uni Michi is Design heavy. Honestly do not understand what this means!!