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Two architectural Rulers Vs 1 Architect and 1 Engineering

Spencern

Hey everyone!

I'm in the process of designing an architectural scale ruler which has a smaller ruler that fits inside. What I'm having trouble with is what to make the smaller ruler. I was originally thinking making it an engineering ruler since most architects also use an engineering ruler but then I thought maybe making it an architects scale with different scales. Not really sure what those "other scales" would be though.


What do you guys think? Any input or ideas would be appreciated and if you help out Id be happy to send you the finished product when its done :)

 
Mar 6, 18 11:44 pm
Grumpy Grizzly

Are you talking about one of the tried and true architects or engineers "scales"?  They each have 6 scales on them.. Archies have 1/16, 1/8, 1/4  etc.. Engineers have 1=1-. 1=20, 1=30 etc.. 

And NEVER, EVER use them to draw a line on paper with.. That was the lesson from day one of Drafting 101.  back in the day anyways.. 

Then, if you're using them to measure blueprints, they're not that accurate anyway because the plotter used actually stretches the drawing as it goes through the rollers.. 

Me, I use a tape measure.  If I'm drawing an as-built, I use Autocad Mobile and my Leica Disto2 that will put the measurements I just took right into the lines I just drew on my tablet..

Mar 7, 18 12:44 am
Spencern

Yeah Im talking about the tried and true architect/engineering scales. architect scale with the standard: 1-1/2", 1, 3/4", 3/8", 3/16", 3/32", 1/2" 1/4", 1/8", 3, 16. If what you say is true why do some many people still have scales? Not doubting just curious. Thanks for the reply!

Non Sequitur

Metric for the win.

A lot of times we still sit down with big paper drawings on a table and draw/discuss as a group. Hand drawing and scales are still used. The inclusion of a metric scale within the standard architectural one would be interesting.

Almosthip7

metric

Non Sequitur

The comments on the image's site are glorious.

Almosthip7

Yes I wasted a good chunk of my morning reading them.

Grumpy Grizzly

Well, to be honest, I have one next to my monitor and it makes a GREAT back scratcher.. 


You can use them for getting close but, that's where it ends.  In todays day and age, you can drop a .pdf file into Autocad and get accurate measurements, even if you do have to scale the model up or down when you insert it.  I think 2018 will convert pdf's to Autocad these days.  I'm still pushing along my home business using Revit Arch Suite which came with Autocad and Autocad Architecture, as well as Revit Architecture all in version 2010.

Mar 7, 18 3:19 am
Non Sequitur

Scales?  All you need is a basic steel ruler and grade-school math skills.

I rocked one of these along with my mayline all throughout undergrad and grad school thou. 


Mar 7, 18 8:30 am
tintt

My mini-triangle was my favorite too. Not that fancy though. I will have to pick one of those up.

senjohnblutarsky

Architecture and Engineering.  Don't worry about the metric.  I use my metric scale as the back scratcher.  The other two get use whenever I have hard copies of drawings and need to pull a quick dimension.  It's not worth scanning them and dropping into autocad for a couple seconds of work. 

Mar 7, 18 8:40 am
Non Sequitur

the world is metric. The USA is simply behind.

I'd only buy one if it had all bastard scales and a built-in bottle opener.

Mar 7, 18 9:09 am
Non Sequitur

I have a set of drawings from another firm on my desk who used 1:7.5 scales.... not 1:6 or 1:8 which have imperial equivalent and not 1:5 which is typical. 7.5 was their chosen number...

JBeaumont

I still use scales when I field measure: laser measurer to get the dimensions, but scale to help me make the measured sketch plan on paper.  I know, some people just take a tablet and put the dimensions into CAD, and some projects hire someone with equipment to scan the whole existing building and make a point cloud.  I'm not that fancy.

That's one reason people still have scales.  But what I'm not understanding from the original post is why you're designing this thing? What's the problem you're trying to solve, by putting a small ruler inside a scale?

Mar 7, 18 1:06 pm
jla-x

Me too. I use mine quite a bit.

I like the idea of architectural scales nested like Babushka dolls, with each one proportionally smaller.

Mar 7, 18 4:23 pm

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