I know that you can have an elevator with two doors (rear or side entry) but could you have an elevator that had 3 openings: one in the front, and one on each side? I have a building for my studio class in which the elevator butts up against the outside wall on the first floor, and on the other side to a kitchen underground. I would like to bring in food deliveries to one side door on the first floor, and have them be able to get them directly to the kitchen on the basement level, without having to walk out into the main lobby and go around to the kitchen.
if you are massaging the specifics of elevator design for your STUDIO project then you better already have a kick arse design. Surely your presentation to the jury will not include the dramatics of your elevator design. There are many more important things to spend your life on.
I will make an elevator large enough for a mariachi band. I don't think "live elevator music" has ever been done before.
I did think about a dumbwaiter, but the way its set up, it just won't work. I have to have the elvator to service the customers anyway. I think my design in strong enough that the elevator won't matter, but I like to make sure everything is actually possible.
add a second elevator. Or call the nice folks at Schindler or Otis and tell 'em you're Frank Gehry or David Childs or something... anything's possible! This is America God Dammit!
yes- a lift like Archi-F says. The doors are on the stories not the cab which is a platform. there was an elevator in a hotel in switzerland like that. it was tempting to touch the walls and floors as you went up through the building. it was safe, and big enough for two people and that was it.
amazing how much ubersafety in the states costs - it changes whole building dynamics and adds S.F.
Hmmm, so does ADA.
Rather than insert a Wonka-vator into your project you should try to make a standard elevator (doors only on opposing sides) work with your project and impress your studio professor with your design skills as they would be tested in the real world.
i used to do this sort of stuff in school, but as a rule of thumb - good design shouldn't require a 3 door elevator. maybe stop thinking of a typical elevator and go by the other suggestions.
I can't remember where, but I remember seing a cylindrical elevator somewhere on the internet, that rotated sligthly so that it would end up in front of the doors, that were fixed on each floor but not directly below/above one another. I don't know if this elevator exists or if it was just a case study by some engineering company, but it did eliminate the problem with the don't-touch walls...
Jury: Very well, great job on the vertical circulation....and can you tell us a little about the materiality of your facade? your concept? financing scheme? Iterant technologies you are using? ....
what advantage does that bring? Other than a view up from below - Girls - be weary of wearing skirts. Guys - I'm sure there's some girl's you don't want to see in skirts. - or a guy in a kilt for that matter.
seriously, if your elevator vertical span is no more than 30m, you can probably squeeze a lift that runs on hydraulic. The piston is located at the bottom of elevator, and you can free up any vertical support (door mechanism/roof/M&E) on the edge of the lift
Elevator design
I know that you can have an elevator with two doors (rear or side entry) but could you have an elevator that had 3 openings: one in the front, and one on each side? I have a building for my studio class in which the elevator butts up against the outside wall on the first floor, and on the other side to a kitchen underground. I would like to bring in food deliveries to one side door on the first floor, and have them be able to get them directly to the kitchen on the basement level, without having to walk out into the main lobby and go around to the kitchen.
will a dumbwaiter work? it's an elevator just for the food.
if you are massaging the specifics of elevator design for your STUDIO project then you better already have a kick arse design. Surely your presentation to the jury will not include the dramatics of your elevator design. There are many more important things to spend your life on.
Will you be having muzak in your elevator?
I will make an elevator large enough for a mariachi band. I don't think "live elevator music" has ever been done before.
I did think about a dumbwaiter, but the way its set up, it just won't work. I have to have the elvator to service the customers anyway. I think my design in strong enough that the elevator won't matter, but I like to make sure everything is actually possible.
add a second elevator. Or call the nice folks at Schindler or Otis and tell 'em you're Frank Gehry or David Childs or something... anything's possible! This is America God Dammit!
Maybe the cab could rotate... and the door open on different sides as it goes up... the rotating shaft kind of thing.
Imagine telling your reviewers that your elevator acts like a big screw! That might be worth it just for that.
that whole band is on the wrong end of the shaft (pun intended) and are getting screwed over by weird doors.
the chefs could serve food to the visitors and provide refreshments for the band. what an elevator!
can you do a lift - independent of doors??? Just a thought
how bout a time/ space/ matter teleporter!
beam me up scotty!
yes- a lift like Archi-F says. The doors are on the stories not the cab which is a platform. there was an elevator in a hotel in switzerland like that. it was tempting to touch the walls and floors as you went up through the building. it was safe, and big enough for two people and that was it.
amazing how much ubersafety in the states costs - it changes whole building dynamics and adds S.F.
Hmmm, so does ADA.
Rather than insert a Wonka-vator into your project you should try to make a standard elevator (doors only on opposing sides) work with your project and impress your studio professor with your design skills as they would be tested in the real world.
it will cost you some 200,000$ to do crazy doors. Your hypothetical client would not like that. SOLVE the problem through DESIGN!
or celebrate the fact that you're still in school and are not constrained by the realities of budget (as of yet) and go for whatever is possible...
But yes - you can probably solve it through design on a budget...
i used to do this sort of stuff in school, but as a rule of thumb - good design shouldn't require a 3 door elevator. maybe stop thinking of a typical elevator and go by the other suggestions.
I can't remember where, but I remember seing a cylindrical elevator somewhere on the internet, that rotated sligthly so that it would end up in front of the doors, that were fixed on each floor but not directly below/above one another. I don't know if this elevator exists or if it was just a case study by some engineering company, but it did eliminate the problem with the don't-touch walls...
Jury: Very well, great job on the vertical circulation....and can you tell us a little about the materiality of your facade? your concept? financing scheme? Iterant technologies you are using? ....
A well trafficked elevator in a big city needs some hidden cameras in the floor tiles.
what advantage does that bring? Other than a view up from below - Girls - be weary of wearing skirts. Guys - I'm sure there's some girl's you don't want to see in skirts. - or a guy in a kilt for that matter.
seriously, if your elevator vertical span is no more than 30m, you can probably squeeze a lift that runs on hydraulic. The piston is located at the bottom of elevator, and you can free up any vertical support (door mechanism/roof/M&E) on the edge of the lift
http://science.howstuffworks.com/elevator1.htm
advantage: minimum structure. good for scenic (all glass) lift
disvantage: slow, inefficient
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