You need to stop making pronouncements about political theories you don't understand or know the history of. The connection between Trotskyites and neoconservatism is very well documented. And neoconservatism is a liberal position, not a conservative one.
Trump falling off the first page of the forum is a portent of things to come.
Meanwhile Hillary is filling her diaper over Sanders. 2016 is looking to be a repeat of 2008 for her, when some unknown guy came out of nowhere and stole her nomination.
Miles, Trump'a success is nothing more than a reflection of our less than adequate government that does not (de)serve the people.
It's like the recent podcast comment by Wiscombe, no point in have a B.Arch, it's dead right? all that really says is Academia and the Real world have no connection anymore.
the state and those ruled by the state have no connection, or at least a meaningful one.
Beta, there is NO narrative and the media can't control it in conjunction with established politicians.........you have Trump on one side and Sanders on the other and they both meet on economics (trade) the only thing a working class voter would give a fuck about .......nice graphics dangermouse.
As if there was any real difference between Republicunts and Democraps. They're both put up to give us the illusion of picking a lesser evil. The REAL two party system is us vs. them.
As to Trump, when you create a large enough mass of disaffected people (with an oligarchy, for example) you lay the groundwork for the rise of a demagogue. Now give people an easy scapegoat and you're good to go. The delicious irony is of course that Trump is an oligarch, his power is derived from wealth.
About three-quarters (74 percent) of Americans -- including 84 percent of Democrats, 72 percent of independents, and 62 percent of Republicans -- believe that corporations have too much influence on American life and politics today, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. In contrast, only 37 percent think that labor unions exercise too much influence.
The Pew Research Center discovered that 60 percent of Americans -- including 75 percent of Democrats -- believed that "the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy."
Fifty-eight percent of Americans said they would support breaking up "big banks like Citigroup," a key plank of Sanders' platform and the goal of a bill that Sanders sponsored in the Senate.
Seventy-three percent of Americans favor tougher rules for Wall Street financial companies, versus 17 percent who oppose stronger regulation.
Sixty-four percent of Americans strongly or somewhat favor regulating greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, factories and cars and requiring utilities to generate more power from "clean" low-carbon sources.
Progressive Taxation
More than three-quarters of Americans (79 percent) think that wealthy people don't pay their fair share of taxes, while 82 percent believe that some corporations don't pay their fair share of taxes.
Sixty-eight percent of Americans favor raising taxes on people earning more than1 million per year, including 87 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents, and 53 percent of Republicans.
Inequality and Poverty
A strong majority (66 percent) say that wealth should be more evenly divided and that it is a problem that should be addressed urgently.
Ninety-two percent of Americans want a society with far less income disparity than currently exists in the United States. Americans prefer some inequality to perfect equality, according to the professors at the Harvard Business School and Duke University who conducted the survey. But when asked to pick an ideal level of income disparity, Americans prefer the more egalitarian level similar to the one in Sweden (although without identifying the country by name) to that in the U.S. What's more, the rich and the poor, and Democrats and Republicans, are almost equally likely to choose the Swedish model. For example, 93.5 percent of Democrats and 90.2 percent of Republicans preferred the level of income distribution that exists in Sweden.
Sixty-nine percent of Americans -- including 90 percent of Democrats, 69 percent of independents, and 45 percent of Republicans -- believe that the government should help reduce the gap between the rich and everyone else. Eighty-two percent of Americans -- including 94 percent of Democrats, 83 percent of independents, and 64 percent of Republicans -- think the government should help reduce poverty.
Money in Politics
Eighty-four percent of Americans think that money has too much influence in politics. Slightly more Americans (85 percent) want an overhaul of our campaign finance system
Seventy-eight percent of Americans think that campaign spending by outside groups not affiliated with candidates should be limited by law.
A majority of Americans (54 percent) believe that money given to political candidates is not a form of free speech protected by the First Amendment. In other words, they disagree with the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling.
Minimum Wage and Workers' Rights
A recent poll by Hart Research Associates found that 75 percent of Americans (including 53 percent of Republicans) support an increase in the federal minimum wage to $12.50 by 2020. Sixty-three percent of Americans support an even greater increase in the minimum wage to $15 by 2020.
Eighty percent of Americans favor requiring employers to offer paid leave to parents of new children and employees caring for sick family members. Even more (85 percent) favor requiring employers to offer paid leave to employees who are ill.
A significant majority of Americans support the right of workers to unionize, despite several decades of corporate-sponsored anti-union propaganda. Eighty-two percent believe that factory and manufacturing workers should have the right to unionize. A vast majority support the right to unionize for transportation workers (74 percent), police and firefighters (72 percent), public school teachers (71 percent), workers in supermarkets and retail sales (68 percent), and fast food workers (62 percent).
Health Care and Social Security
Over 50 percent of Americans (including one-quarter of Republicans and nearly 80 percent of Democrats) say they support a single-payer "Medicare for All" approach to health insurance, something Sanders has long advocated. Only 36 percent oppose the idea. 12 percent are neutral.
Seventy-one percent Americans support a public option, which would give individuals the choice of buying healthcare through Medicare or private insurers. This was part of Obama's original health care plan but the insurance industry lobby killed it, thanks to every Senate Republican and a handful of Senate Democrats, led by Senator Max Baucus of Montana.
The Gallup poll found that 67 percent of Americans want to lift the income cap on Social Security to require higher-income workers to pay Social Security taxes on all of their wages. Most people still don't realize that workers who earn more than $118,500 a year don't contribute on their full income and that simply removing that tax loophole for high earners would close the lion's share of Social Security's modest long-term funding gap. Legislation introduced by Senator Sanders and Representative Peter DeFazio of Oregon would apply the same payroll tax already paid by more than nine out of 10 Americans to those with incomes over $250,000 a year. Census Bureau data shows that only about 5 percent (1 in 18) of workers would pay more if the cap were scrapped, and only the top 1.4 percent (one in 71 workers) would be affected if the tax were applied to earnings over $250,000.
Higher Education
More than three-quarters (79 percent) of Americans think that education beyond high school is not affordable for everyone in the U.S. who needs it. Seventy-seven percent believe that higher education institutions should reduce tuition and fees, while 59 percent and 55 percent respectively agree that state governments and the federal government should provide more assistance. The average tuition bill for students at a public four-year college has increased by more than 250 percent over the past three decades. More than one-third (35 percent) of 2000-2014 college graduates report graduating with more than25,000 in undergraduate student loan debt, in inflation-adjusted dollars. The recently graduated college class of 2015 has an average debt burden of $35,051 per student, the highest ever. Sanders introduced legislation to make four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free, paid for through a tax on Wall Street transactions.
Same-Sex Marriage
Today, 60 percent of Americans believe it should be legal for gay and lesbian couples to marry, according to the Gallup poll, a figure that is likely to increase in the coming years, especially after the Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage is legal. But in 1996, only 27 percent felt that way. That year, then-Congressman Sanders was one of only 67 House members to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred federal recognition of gay marriages.
If Bernie is mainstream, what is everyone else? They range from radical fascists to religious nut-jobs using religion as a cover for radical fascism.
miles there is no mainstream.....no narrative.....first time i find the election cycle mildly interesting......the media just cant seem to frame the narrative the way they want it to....
Miles, I like everything Bernie likes, and more he doesn't - check the youtube for his thoughts on Israel, and Palestine - however, if you want to lay out his position in rational, bullet points, you're not acknowledging how the fucking Republicans are going to cast his positions as Communism. Then, that is how they say, the ball game.
beta don't worry the republicans are imploding and USA will become USSR....this is all some lengthy Liberal Democrat Conspiracy theory, Trump will destroy the Republican party as he get the ticket, Bernie will be called a Communist, and Hillary will win even with the email thing looming.
afterall, Bush - Iran/Contra....
Rachel Maddow has some of the best "narratives" into a her news segment, the one about Oprah Winfrey as possible vice to Trump and the end times - Oprah being the sign of the Apocalypse according to some ding bat preacher, that one was funny...
Finally, in an interrview with People magazine on December 6, 1983, the President [Reagan] described Armageddon as "the end of the world." He said: "Theologians had been studying the ancient prophecies-what would portend the coming of Armageddon?-and have said that never, in the time between the prophecies up untiI now, has there ever been a time in which so many of the prophecies are coming together. There have been times in the past when people thought the end of the world was coming, and so forth, but never anything like this."
anyway, now that the other half of that presidency has passed away, it appears we can start looking the next Armageddon.
see, Beta, this whole presidency, US government, etc...one really funny joke.
Ever read the remarks on Facebook newsfeeds and ask yourself “who are these people?” Well, they are the new face of America…the Kardashian effect, the systematic dumbing down of America worked beautifully….they just didn’t figure on the backfire.
Bumping this thread for the big day in the primaries tomorrow. The harvesting of GOPe tears when Trump wins Florida and (possibly) Ohio should be very satisfying.
I love the Trojan Horse that is Trump. I love that he's destroying the Republican party. I love the fact that we are in the edge of the purge of the white nationalists in this country.
well, i for one, have been asking what kind of person i would've been in 1968, if i had been my age then. not standing for this hate mongering, and outright riot inciting, by this orange douchecanoe, has me saying; not on my watch.
^ Well, let me take you back to 1968 and ask you…it was a time leading up to the 1972 election with George McGovern (a battle not unlike today) when my father & mother, faced with certainty that their two sons would die in Vietnam, demonstrated in Washington to stop the war and got arrested with Dr. Spock (Mom & Dad arrested?)…MLK assassinated, the Detroit Riots (and elsewhere)…Bobby Kennedy assassinated 2 months later…Kent State 2 years later…was anarchy, but nobody said so, was nuts, yet it just seemed like a new normal, if you can believe it…peanuts to what’s happening today at Trump rally’s….but things aren’t over yet.
My brother got forced-drafted after burning his Draft Card in his freshman year…FBI came to the house…suddenly got suspended for a semester and he was gone! Judges were sentencing people to Vietnam for misdemeanors….”Army or jail, take your pick” (hold that thought).
So, what kind of person would've you been in 1968? The answer is the same as you are today, you just do what you think is right and keep going because there isn’t a damned thing you can do about it. The only thing that’s different today is that it’s an epic struggle between the haves & have not’s. As history is my witness nothing will change, it never does, the war stopped, they waited and started another one…our family learned that no matter how loud you yell, no matter how much you demonstrate, no matter how many letters you write and no matter who you vote for…the “forces” never waver and never lose….not even Trump would make a dent....they've dealt with people like him before.^
This isn’t about Republicans & Democrats…remember LBJ lied to start the mess…it’s big, dark & invisible….things may get bad, maybe very bad, but it’s happened before in spades and look where we are, right back where we started....demonstrating is a zero sum game.
Rubio is BTFO in Florida and bows out. Kasich can't even get a majority in his home state. Cruz underperforms again. Bernie is done. Brace yourselves. The Trumpening is coming.
Trump is for Hilary. She'll be the first woman president. The repubs will have no choice but to reorganize, ushering in a new era of political parties. It's all planned.
Hey there archi folks... better brush up on your reciprocity requirements (and metric system) if you're coming up north to practice once this dick bag gets elected.
Haha haha...Thiel proud? Really? Well, the Evangelicals have a plan for him, in the Drumpfkkkin Era. It's called Mr. Bachmann Re-Education Camp, OTKA BREC, or Operation Rim Job.
Architects for TRUMP
Curtkram, I blame you as *a* responsible party for why this world is as fucked up as it is.
curtkram,
You need to stop making pronouncements about political theories you don't understand or know the history of. The connection between Trotskyites and neoconservatism is very well documented. And neoconservatism is a liberal position, not a conservative one.
Foreign Policy: Trotskyism to Anachronism - The Neoconservative Revolution
i don't see how that relates to anything gwharton.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-rise-of-the-unprotected-1456448550
Trump falling off the first page of the forum is a portent of things to come.
Meanwhile Hillary is filling her diaper over Sanders. 2016 is looking to be a repeat of 2008 for her, when some unknown guy came out of nowhere and stole her nomination.
After all of the current events of Trump rallies, are there really any Trump supporters still out there? He is worse than a joke, he is scary.
Notice how the person in handcuffs is the black guy who got hit, not the white guy who sucker punched him.
Miles, Trump'a success is nothing more than a reflection of our less than adequate government that does not (de)serve the people.
It's like the recent podcast comment by Wiscombe, no point in have a B.Arch, it's dead right? all that really says is Academia and the Real world have no connection anymore.
the state and those ruled by the state have no connection, or at least a meaningful one.
When trump preaches divisiveness and hate, is it any wonder we have violent protests?
The rise of Trump is due to the deligitimization of Obama, by Teapublicans, through the creation of an "other" narrative.
The fact that government doesn't "serve" the people is primarily because of that racist narrative, and a refusal to negotiate, and or, compromise.
Teapublicans and their feigning of caring about the Constitution, is shown to be full of shit based on their refusal to consent on a new justice.
Repubelicunts, your chickens have come home, and they're shitting all over your carpet.
relevant:
Beta, there is NO narrative and the media can't control it in conjunction with established politicians.........you have Trump on one side and Sanders on the other and they both meet on economics (trade) the only thing a working class voter would give a fuck about .......nice graphics dangermouse.
As if there was any real difference between Republicunts and Democraps. They're both put up to give us the illusion of picking a lesser evil. The REAL two party system is us vs. them.
As to Trump, when you create a large enough mass of disaffected people (with an oligarchy, for example) you lay the groundwork for the rise of a demagogue. Now give people an easy scapegoat and you're good to go. The delicious irony is of course that Trump is an oligarch, his power is derived from wealth.
Meanwhile Far Left Socialist Bernie is the mainstream candidate:
Big Business
Progressive Taxation
Inequality and Poverty
Money in Politics
Health Care and Social Security
Higher Education
Same-Sex Marriage
If Bernie is mainstream, what is everyone else? They range from radical fascists to religious nut-jobs using religion as a cover for radical fascism.
miles there is no mainstream.....no narrative.....first time i find the election cycle mildly interesting......the media just cant seem to frame the narrative the way they want it to....
i take it back, there is a narrative for this campaign and Kevin Spacey is narrating it on CNN....
Miles, I like everything Bernie likes, and more he doesn't - check the youtube for his thoughts on Israel, and Palestine - however, if you want to lay out his position in rational, bullet points, you're not acknowledging how the fucking Republicans are going to cast his positions as Communism. Then, that is how they say, the ball game.
beta don't worry the republicans are imploding and USA will become USSR....this is all some lengthy Liberal Democrat Conspiracy theory, Trump will destroy the Republican party as he get the ticket, Bernie will be called a Communist, and Hillary will win even with the email thing looming.
afterall, Bush - Iran/Contra....
Rachel Maddow has some of the best "narratives" into a her news segment, the one about Oprah Winfrey as possible vice to Trump and the end times - Oprah being the sign of the Apocalypse according to some ding bat preacher, that one was funny...
Finally, in an interrview with People magazine on December 6, 1983, the President [Reagan] described Armageddon as "the end of the world." He said: "Theologians had been studying the ancient prophecies-what would portend the coming of Armageddon?-and have said that never, in the time between the prophecies up untiI now, has there ever been a time in which so many of the prophecies are coming together. There have been times in the past when people thought the end of the world was coming, and so forth, but never anything like this."
anyway, now that the other half of that presidency has passed away, it appears we can start looking the next Armageddon.
see, Beta, this whole presidency, US government, etc...one really funny joke.
LOL reading Piles' shit.
i might even agree but LOL who cares.
Ever read the remarks on Facebook newsfeeds and ask yourself “who are these people?” Well, they are the new face of America…the Kardashian effect, the systematic dumbing down of America worked beautifully….they just didn’t figure on the backfire.
Bumping this thread for the big day in the primaries tomorrow. The harvesting of GOPe tears when Trump wins Florida and (possibly) Ohio should be very satisfying.
I can't wait.
i hate that people think it's ok to act the way they're acting.
well, i for one, have been asking what kind of person i would've been in 1968, if i had been my age then. not standing for this hate mongering, and outright riot inciting, by this orange douchecanoe, has me saying; not on my watch.
fuck him, and fuck white tears.
^ Well, let me take you back to 1968 and ask you…it was a time leading up to the 1972 election with George McGovern (a battle not unlike today) when my father & mother, faced with certainty that their two sons would die in Vietnam, demonstrated in Washington to stop the war and got arrested with Dr. Spock (Mom & Dad arrested?)…MLK assassinated, the Detroit Riots (and elsewhere)…Bobby Kennedy assassinated 2 months later…Kent State 2 years later…was anarchy, but nobody said so, was nuts, yet it just seemed like a new normal, if you can believe it…peanuts to what’s happening today at Trump rally’s….but things aren’t over yet.
My brother got forced-drafted after burning his Draft Card in his freshman year…FBI came to the house…suddenly got suspended for a semester and he was gone! Judges were sentencing people to Vietnam for misdemeanors….”Army or jail, take your pick” (hold that thought).
So, what kind of person would've you been in 1968? The answer is the same as you are today, you just do what you think is right and keep going because there isn’t a damned thing you can do about it. The only thing that’s different today is that it’s an epic struggle between the haves & have not’s. As history is my witness nothing will change, it never does, the war stopped, they waited and started another one…our family learned that no matter how loud you yell, no matter how much you demonstrate, no matter how many letters you write and no matter who you vote for…the “forces” never waver and never lose….not even Trump would make a dent....they've dealt with people like him before.^
This isn’t about Republicans & Democrats…remember LBJ lied to start the mess…it’s big, dark & invisible….things may get bad, maybe very bad, but it’s happened before in spades and look where we are, right back where we started....demonstrating is a zero sum game.
Footnote…even this guy went to work for them:
Rubio is BTFO in Florida and bows out. Kasich can't even get a majority in his home state. Cruz underperforms again. Bernie is done. Brace yourselves. The Trumpening is coming.
Bumping Thread For Great Justice (and lulz).
Cruz and Kasich are out after being BTFO in Indiana. Trump is now the presumptive nominee.
The Democrats inch slowly toward a possible contested convention, still infighting while The Donald is now free to focus on November.
This election just keeps getting better and better.
Life's a bitch and then you die. ' Nuff said.
contested convention with 2 candidates?
dem rules aren't the same as rep rules.
Donald Trump vs Guinea Pig ;)
Oh dear ^_
what's going on overseas? ...
please don't tell me he won the elections :o
Haha
zaina, it looks like he made it through another round, so it's between him and one other person.
all hope is not lost. most of it is, but maybe it won't really be all that bad.
Trump is for Hilary. She'll be the first woman president. The repubs will have no choice but to reorganize, ushering in a new era of political parties. It's all planned.
#4moreyears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4
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Hey there archi folks... better brush up on your reciprocity requirements (and metric system) if you're coming up north to practice once this dick bag gets elected.
need a third wheel gruen?
BREAKING NEWS!
THIEL: PROUD TO BE GAY, PROUD TO BE REPUBLICAN
http://gawker.com/rumor-doctor-prescribes-donald-trump-cheap-speed-1782901680
He's currently under investigation for raping a child:
http://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-child-rape/
And his speeches are about a country on the verge of chaos due to certain ethnic/religious groups and only a strong man like him can make things safe.
This is really scary now.
OMG he also murders puppies
http://www.trump-murdered-my-puppy.com
and eats bald eagles for breakfast
http://www.the-donalds-bald?-no-he-eats-em-for-breakfast!.com
really, really getting scary, people.
:'(
^ You should wake up. This is not a joke.
He wants to be a dictator.
the US goverment is a joke, especially the executive branch. is that not apparent?
http://imgur.com/gallery/vA4KU
So how many likely Democratic voters did you register today, this week or ever?
What, none?
then stop complaining. Government is not a spectator sport, go and vote and help other to vote.
yeah so wake the F up and register those lazy democrats, lest we elect the next HITLER!
UNDER and IN
FRa C
I have a song for the Trump Campaign
Merle Haggard - The Fightin Side Of Me
Yes! Architects for Trump
#architectsfortrump
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