A German State Office for the Protection of the Constitution wants to deter students from radical Islamism – with a clichéd comic book and ingratiating advice such as "Don't play on the team of the mujaheddin".qantara
What's the point of this news in here? In the last days I've seen here 3 notorious references to religions. One being the recently released new sins by the Vatican, a tendentious report about Israel and now this. If this is going to be a platform for other than Architecture, i.e. a pro-islamic board, you should state it clearly and notify the readers.
* tip;
you can also filter the news according to type (next to what you are reading now) and save yourself a lot of cultural, urban planning and other headaches, which some of your complaints are filed under.
I think that an informed and balanced world view is necessary to creating thoughtful and innovative architecture, so although I sometimes don't see the point of something that may be posted in the news stream, I do appreciate all those who take the time to point it out for the rest of us. Sometimes there are tidbits in there that I never would have come across on my own, and I am glad that Orhan checks many news outlets that I don't know about, so I don't have to. Frankly my RSS feed is long enough as it is :o)
[turtle in finding nemo voice] woh. amazing carlos. dude you gotta know orhan is like the man okaaay? totally respected by all and everything. no way he is trying to spin any angles, he's just keeping us all informed, you know?
okaaay. excellent. all on the same page now right? awesome.[/turtle in finding nemo voice]
the turtle never lies man. he's like over a hunderd years old.
This news have been mainstream, unless here in Europe.
I don't know him in person. And you might be right and he is a creative, well informed and innovative person. But in this particular case I think he has exceeded his attributions with this post. And if you give your personal views on extra-architectural topics you might also be ready to face people who in first place don't like to mess religion or politics with its work unnecesarily and second who won't agree with you.
I admit having started this post perhaps too strongly. But the core of my critics remain the same, this post is doubly out of place. First for not being architecture, and second for being biased.
But ok, now I see I perhaps got wrong the "essence" of the community. I thought it was a specialized one instead of a "anything goes" one.
our news is varied because as a community we are interested not only buildings and architects who build them, but also communities who occupy them and how they impacted by it and who we design for.
if you are interested in architecture, urbanism per se, you need to look into politics, economics, sustainability and its politics, unrest, peace, culture, religion, art and on and on.
there are a lot of members here, including myself, who are interested in these issues and their work involves examining these elements in their daily decision making process as professionals and students. it is very relevant we talk and inform each other, spread the information in these news boards and in discussions. we don't always agree but we agree to discuss.
if you look deeper, there are news interest and discussions around israeli settlements in world architectural community, there are interest in green policies even if it involves vatican or any other religious centers, and there is an interest on any kind of use of media that evolves around a community and directly impact the life in the cities, and in the rural communities.
those interests of our members, readers and editors that make this site different than the others.
so, instead of starting to make judgment about what is fit for archinect in your first ever post, sit down, and try to find out, read and then decide if you are interested in participating.
you sir, are in no position to decide if i exceeded my position as a senior editor. your credibility still remains secret and even if you somehow part of the architectural community, you still think twice before deeming something not architectural. and yes, there is also room here for something totally strange and entertaining if it is worthwhile...
there are members who are representing all the religious faiths and there are non believers among us.
i don't seek people to agree with me and believe in me, i get fair share of people who don't agree with me on my longer and more personal articles or shorter posts. As a writer, i am used to that and thank people for their opposing views. you are not opposing anything but just saying, "i don't see these items architectural, therefore declare they are not fit."
you are the one being biased here by continuously discrediting something you don't understand, and, are still refusing to understand the 'essence'. it is not anything goes kind of a place, but carefully chosen items that stimulates further thought.
but anyway, there are always more specialized boards on architecture you might find more fitting for your range, background and cultural place.
note;
i am here re-linking the items the reader deems 'un-architectural and pro-islamic' ;
When I came here I got the impression it was a specialized board on architecture, art and design. I didn't explore it in detail.
Those three posts made me aware I could easily find something else in here, like politics and religion. Now I know better the place.
The word pro-islamic was poorly chosen, I should have rethink that bit. I didn't want to offend anyone with it, my apologize. But I don't expect those who have really insulted other faiths in other news posts do the same.
However there wasn't at any moment nothing islamophobic in my words. And I invite anyone to proof that. On the other hand I was welcomed with a pretty interesting collection of insults. Calling someone islamophobic is a pretty cheap resort this days.
And I'm sorry, I'm not leaving to another board. I've put into balance what I can learn from the other contributors and your not "notorious" posts... and I think it worths staying.
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What's the point of this news in here? In the last days I've seen here 3 notorious references to religions. One being the recently released new sins by the Vatican, a tendentious report about Israel and now this. If this is going to be a platform for other than Architecture, i.e. a pro-islamic board, you should state it clearly and notify the readers.
now that you've registered under a different name... your accusations are fit for a very limited thought. take your islamofobia somewhere else!
what?
tendentious report about israel,
notorious references,
pro islamic board?
i don't deserve this, specially when green jesus is my co-pilot, which you conveniently forgot to mention!
* tip;
you can also filter the news according to type (next to what you are reading now) and save yourself a lot of cultural, urban planning and other headaches, which some of your complaints are filed under.
im pro Islamic architecture!!!!!!!!! The tile work is rad
carlosos - please crawl back into the cave you came from with all your bigotry and ignorance.
Uggghhh!
This is my first registration. I am an usual rss reader. I'll do apply those filters, good tip.
Nobody else sees this content is unappropiate for a web of this nature and even if it was that comic is nothing but offensive or provocative.
I do like islamic architecture, but this is not architecture. Where I come from we have the best examples of it.
Cave? I won't even bother to reply to that.
carlosos... everything is connected to architecture in some way/shape/form.
Excuse me... for not that being enough architecto-centric.
I think that an informed and balanced world view is necessary to creating thoughtful and innovative architecture, so although I sometimes don't see the point of something that may be posted in the news stream, I do appreciate all those who take the time to point it out for the rest of us. Sometimes there are tidbits in there that I never would have come across on my own, and I am glad that Orhan checks many news outlets that I don't know about, so I don't have to. Frankly my RSS feed is long enough as it is :o)
[turtle in finding nemo voice] woh. amazing carlos. dude you gotta know orhan is like the man okaaay? totally respected by all and everything. no way he is trying to spin any angles, he's just keeping us all informed, you know?
okaaay. excellent. all on the same page now right? awesome.[/turtle in finding nemo voice]
the turtle never lies man. he's like over a hunderd years old.
This news have been mainstream, unless here in Europe.
I don't know him in person. And you might be right and he is a creative, well informed and innovative person. But in this particular case I think he has exceeded his attributions with this post. And if you give your personal views on extra-architectural topics you might also be ready to face people who in first place don't like to mess religion or politics with its work unnecesarily and second who won't agree with you.
I admit having started this post perhaps too strongly. But the core of my critics remain the same, this post is doubly out of place. First for not being architecture, and second for being biased.
But ok, now I see I perhaps got wrong the "essence" of the community. I thought it was a specialized one instead of a "anything goes" one.
welcome to archinect;
our news is varied because as a community we are interested not only buildings and architects who build them, but also communities who occupy them and how they impacted by it and who we design for.
if you are interested in architecture, urbanism per se, you need to look into politics, economics, sustainability and its politics, unrest, peace, culture, religion, art and on and on.
there are a lot of members here, including myself, who are interested in these issues and their work involves examining these elements in their daily decision making process as professionals and students. it is very relevant we talk and inform each other, spread the information in these news boards and in discussions. we don't always agree but we agree to discuss.
if you look deeper, there are news interest and discussions around israeli settlements in world architectural community, there are interest in green policies even if it involves vatican or any other religious centers, and there is an interest on any kind of use of media that evolves around a community and directly impact the life in the cities, and in the rural communities.
those interests of our members, readers and editors that make this site different than the others.
so, instead of starting to make judgment about what is fit for archinect in your first ever post, sit down, and try to find out, read and then decide if you are interested in participating.
you sir, are in no position to decide if i exceeded my position as a senior editor. your credibility still remains secret and even if you somehow part of the architectural community, you still think twice before deeming something not architectural. and yes, there is also room here for something totally strange and entertaining if it is worthwhile...
there are members who are representing all the religious faiths and there are non believers among us.
i don't seek people to agree with me and believe in me, i get fair share of people who don't agree with me on my longer and more personal articles or shorter posts. As a writer, i am used to that and thank people for their opposing views. you are not opposing anything but just saying, "i don't see these items architectural, therefore declare they are not fit."
you are the one being biased here by continuously discrediting something you don't understand, and, are still refusing to understand the 'essence'. it is not anything goes kind of a place, but carefully chosen items that stimulates further thought.
but anyway, there are always more specialized boards on architecture you might find more fitting for your range, background and cultural place.
note;
i am here re-linking the items the reader deems 'un-architectural and pro-islamic' ;
http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=72906_0_24_0_C
http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=73085_0_24_0_C
http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=73132_0_24_0_C
When I came here I got the impression it was a specialized board on architecture, art and design. I didn't explore it in detail.
Those three posts made me aware I could easily find something else in here, like politics and religion. Now I know better the place.
The word pro-islamic was poorly chosen, I should have rethink that bit. I didn't want to offend anyone with it, my apologize. But I don't expect those who have really insulted other faiths in other news posts do the same.
However there wasn't at any moment nothing islamophobic in my words. And I invite anyone to proof that. On the other hand I was welcomed with a pretty interesting collection of insults. Calling someone islamophobic is a pretty cheap resort this days.
And I'm sorry, I'm not leaving to another board. I've put into balance what I can learn from the other contributors and your not "notorious" posts... and I think it worths staying.
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