In times when the rest of the city is rapidly becoming extremely expensive, Amsterdam’s ugly light gray and pink-yellow housing blocks are staying affordable, with rents contingent on income. Their continued presence in the city is becoming a memorial for a once-existing Amsterdam, in which almost all space in the city was equally distributed. — failedarchitecture.com
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Miles is just rude. He doesn't add much at all to the discussion.
MAYBE we could get the handful here that debate this same topic over and over on the Podcast? It would be like the Jerry Springer of Archinect............I have to agree with fineprint here about his commentary on Thayer-d in general to which Thayer-d took great defense.....generally speaking Thayer-d rarely offers up solid references either in the form of a link or an image.....but if Thayer-d operates that way fine, but after numerous debates typically about the same topic over and over I would at minimum expect case-in-point examples, because at this point I am loosing faith.....
davvid, if you don't have the ability to understand the meaning of another's words, it must be their fault.
Quondam, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about Steve Lauf.
Quondam = Lauf
:)
Well, that explains a few things. Except why you talk about yourself in the third person, which is just plain weird.
Your immediate dislike of me was evident. I'm guessing you are threatened in some way, silly though because until a moment ago you were completely anonymous to me. And in reality still are.
While I gave you the benefit of the doubt, you did prove that even my low expectations for you were too high. Not that we all don't have a chance to redeem ourselves each and every instant.
Did you ever consider that your obvious dislike of me since I started posting here influenced my response to you?
Cause and effect.
But then again, who gives a shit? You've proven yourself to be a pompous ass, without practical experience, posting bullshit on an architectural form. I don't care how much you've read: information is not knowledge.
Still wondering about your identity problem. Psychologists say that speaking about oneself in the third person is a way to relieve anxiety. What are you worried about - my calling out your bullshit?
After I read this on Norman Jaffe's website by Miles I kind of take everything Miles says as a good elbow jab to build character, something my dad likes to do....
I mean this project by Norman Jaffe is awesome and Miles says this about it on Norman Jaffe's website:
"I have always been my father's toughest critic, but here I was hard pressed to find anything to complain about and had to settle for three tiny defects that I had to search hard to find. The most obvious of these is the superficial T pattern in the stone flooring in the lobby that contrasts poorly with the abundent integral structural ornamenataion." - Miles Jaffe
I've been in the Build-A-Bear located in the corner many times and my wife when she woks in the city is right next to the Colombian Embassy - I knew that building was familiar.
Have not been in the lobby yet, so will def. make the visit.
i'm am certain this would be a great podcast - Lauf, Jaffe, Thayer-D....and yes I'm Olaf (as if that was hard to figure out)...but Olaf is slightly fictional.
I'm interested to what degree Quondam is fictional?
(Miles no progress on the Bridgehampton job yet, thanks for taking my call)
"Published" by Xilibris Corp., aka Vanity Press. You're a legend in your own mind.
Maybe we should compare print runs and copies sold?
That Farsta Center is pretty grim; do the developers have anything against landscaping and parks (or ice skating rinks)? The age of the monolithic mall is over. I can see interconnected buildings for a place as cold as Sweden can be, but Farsta looks like someone put Pruitt-Igoe in a freezer. As for Amsterdam, I stayed with a Dutch family in one of the classic buildings when I was a recent graduate kicking around Europe years ago. I remember very steep stairways and light coming in only from the front. It would not have cost any more to put a classic facade on the modern houses shown in the article. Brick is cheap, wood is cheap, trad. windows not that expensive, and they could have had some fun with the outsize pediments. The modern buildings are a complete failure of imagination and have no relationship to the vibe of Amsterdam - which is why their occupants are planning their escape to the hundreds of years old neighbors.
If Miles wants to be taken seriously he needs to treat others with respect. Stop calling people idiots or assholes. Stop being rude.
@Miles do you mean as opposed to the little arrow that jumps to last page?
No effort at all, Quondam, just the natural result of my pandering inherent dispensability.
davvid, the idiot reference was in regard to a very specific behavior: self-delusion. Asshole was a spelling correction for Carerra, who used two words. As I said before, your reading comprehension needs some work. That was an observation, not an insult. Although having to repeat it ... also rudeness abounds here, making your bias even more evident.
Nam, on the iPad there is no option to jump to the last post on a news article. Scroll to the bottom of the page, click the last page number, scroll to the bottom again.
@Miles never-mind i just realized i was getting threads and news posts confused. that really would be quite useful...
wait... meta is chris is olaf?
no shit?
and miles is a douche is miles?
well, that wasn't unexpected.
I am as crude as I am generally reported to be.
I used to think that LI's douchebag culture was more or less confined to Nassau County. I guess I was wrong.
fineprint of fantasies,
Why are you reposting 15 yr old dialog?
No. I'm not saying its invalid. Its valid, germane, and thoughtful writing. Its just an unusual way of commenting. Was this a conversation that happened on Archinect in 2000? Who is design-l?
"To: design-l
Subject: rammed into an envelope
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:39:41 -0400"
not as relevant to 'fineprint,' but
adjective: quondam
that once was; former.
"quondam dissidents joined the establishment"
anyway, the expression of function for the sake of expressing function seems a little contrived. Does a clear computer tower do it for anyone? I kinda love looking at those translucent fish though....Im not arguing for or against anything really...just trying to sort my thoughts about the subject through debate because its an interesting one to me.
Fascinating. Thanks for the explanation.
The direction is definitely toward interface design and an approach that either conceals the mechanics or very selectively reveals. I'd expect architects to fetishize the physicality of machines in ways that don't actually clarify anything.
jla, there are windows in most high-end computer cases. personally i go out of my way to avoid those when selecting cases for new computers, but a lot of people do like them. they make them shine with glowy colored LED lights. sometimes they create water-cooled systems just to have glowy water pipes. glowy is cool.
there is usually a gap between the metal where the motherboard screws on to and the back panel without the window so you can hide the loose dangly wires that aren't cool.
as far as expressing the function, i don't think it's necessary. i don't think 'form follows function' means 'form expresses function' either. that's why i go with the simplest box shape computer case i can, and why my fish aren't translucent.
Is not the 'architecture' of the human body an envelope rammed full of 'attributes' that DO NOT show their 'implementation' on the outside?
Rammed full, like a sausage, or maybe a rape victim? Nope, and a particularly bad analogy.
For example, breasts with nipples hardly reflect either the lungs or the pumping heart inside, likewise the one-piece torso offers little 'superficial' indication of two cavities inside.
Breasts do not hide their function. The belly button is a visible scar left from an umbilical cord, the purpose of which is clear. The skin does not hide the human structure, it simply protects it. Skeletal structure, muscles and tendons as well as many organs are all readily evident - visually, audibly and by touch. Breath is evident in the heaving of the chest, audibly and by itself. Digestion, like breath, is evident by what goes in and what comes out. Our shape is determined by our functions.
Your conjecture is so baseless that does not even qualify as a tortured metaphor. But don't feel bad, davvid has found a new guru.
Miles...what the hell is that thing???
The problem with Miles is that he can't disagree with someone without insulting them.
curt's translucent fish, aka salpa maggiore.
davvid, maybe you should read some of your douchebag posts before you stick your head any farther up your own ass.
Is Sir Arthur Braagadocio............ man if Miles had been around then on archinect, would of been a hoot. What a cocky bastard I was.
that fish is beautiful. clearer than glass. probably makes it harder to see in water...surprised this hasn't evolved more often...
Miles, I just skimmed through my comments. I can be a bit snarky but I'm very careful not to insult the intelligence of the people who comment here or the architects we frequently comment on.
Have a nice weekend.
Now I don't know if you're being serious or sardonic. LOL Damn Margaritas.
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