Archinect
anchor

Underground water storage tanks for runoff in residential in freezing climates?

blah

Underground water storage tanks for runoff in residential in freezing climates?

I am going to put in under a patio so that gravity will work in its favor. The water from the patio will be collected and stored in the tank for landscape use.

I am concerned about its freezing. The patio is about 4 feet off the ground.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

 
Feb 15, 10 12:49 pm

few options:
don't worry
or
bury the tank below frost depths
or
insulate the tank
or
install a heater

I'd recommend bury the tank.

Feb 15, 10 2:37 pm  · 
 · 
blah

Barry,

I'll bury it. There was one buried under the Michelle Kaufmann house here at the Museum of Science and Industry. I don't remember the manufacturer.

I'll insulate it. Heating it wouldn't make much sense in terms of saving energy. (Or maybe it would. I haven't done the calcs)

I need it to be above the spout on the outside for gravity to move the water.

Does that make sense?

Thanks!

Feb 15, 10 2:44 pm  · 
 · 
RealLifeLEED

Burying it while relying on gravity for pressure sure doesn't make sense... am I just reading that wrong?

Feb 15, 10 3:09 pm  · 
 · 
blah

It's a patio so the top surface is 4' above the ground.

The spigot could be on the side 12" above the ground.

Maybe I could put it into the basement?

But that doesn't help.

I need to think about this some more.

Feb 15, 10 3:11 pm  · 
 · 
jesus.saves

you mean a cistern?

Feb 16, 10 11:46 pm  · 
 · 
blah

yessir

Feb 16, 10 11:50 pm  · 
 · 
jesus.saves

arent some of them already pre-insulated?

Feb 16, 10 11:53 pm  · 
 · 
blah

This is cool:

http://www.uaf.edu/ces/publications-db/catalog/eeh/HCM-01557.pdf

Anyone know of a manufacturer?

Feb 16, 10 11:58 pm  · 
 · 
Janosh

Landscape irrigation probably isn't a huge deal in freezing weather since many plants are dormant during this period. But if you do really need it, you might look at Steve Baer's device for maintaining free-flowing water in stock ponds and tanks:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3618569.pdf

You know, physics and whatnot.

Feb 17, 10 12:00 am  · 
 · 
strlt_typ

why not use a pump?

we had a client retrofit an aquarium filtration system into his house and one of the components was a buried tank that had a pump. might want to look at ow they do the filtration and water storage for large aquarium systems...

Feb 17, 10 12:08 am  · 
 · 

Block this user


Are you sure you want to block this user and hide all related comments throughout the site?

Archinect


This is your first comment on Archinect. Your comment will be visible once approved.

  • ×Search in: