I believe it refers to minorities whose population percentage in the school is typically lower than the population percentage in the country that the school is located in.
For example, if there are only X% Native Americans at a certain school, but Y% of Native Americans in the United States, and the school is located in the United States and Y>X, then Native Americans are a URM.
I believe that the typical URMs include Native Americans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, African Americans, and maybe a few others. NOT whites, NOT Asians, and NOT men.
so Razvan...you must be right in Columbia's crosshairs for "token canuck"..nice
I've also heard nothing from them. where do you get 95% from? the only acceptances I saw were for the M AAP program. The only way I interpret it is: I haven't been rejected. no more no less.
all:
as a staff member of a MArchI-granting institution, I can assure you that, at least here, the application/portfolio review process isn't as arbitrary it seems many of you think it is.
I received an e-mail from Pratt last week saying they didn't receive official transcripts from my undergraduate schools. They replied back saying thank you for sending transcripts.
New to this forum and so I guess this is my M.Arch I application status:
GSAPP: No Response
Yale: No Response
Pratt: No Response
Cornell: No Response
Princeton: No Response
GPA: 3.73 B.S. Architecture @ Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Previously attended UT Austin for Civil Engineering
Profile:
Filipino, Canadian citizen, raised in texas, living in NYC.
allergic to cats.
Flat-footed.
Gonna see Hot Chip in a month!!!!!!
Don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to say anything bad about RISD at all, or belly dancing for that matter, I know that RISD is a great program. I had looked there a few years back for undergrad and looked at it again for applying to grad schools as well.
I think it is pretty awesome that you have pretty much grown up in dance your whole life, and from what I know about RISD it sounds like it would be great fit for you. I know a couple of my close friends who have, pretty much the same as you, spent their whole life in dance even getting a degree in dance in undergrad.
Re: diversity, if you think you are at a disadvantage because of your skin color, nationality, hipster status, whatever, look for other ways in which you may be diverse, or offer something to the school. Sweetpotato, I don’t want to fuel any further anxiety at this time, but I hope that your personality was able to show through in your port/SoP, because you definitely should have included the, “I'd also like to be able to give something back” line.
Be very clear and explicitly state what it is that only YOU can bring to the school. Yeah, you might be one of the generic applicants based on skin color, but you are probably the only one who can bring your experience, I don’t know, working through cultural differences to build emergency housing for victims of natural disaster or starting up the only national “Belly-Dancing, Pole-Vaulting, Improv Group” at your undergad location. Lots of ways to stand out when you’re just one of a thousand.
Between 1100-1200 (not stellar, but acceptable). I opted to put my efforts into my portfolio, statement of interest, and researching schools rather than studying arcane GRE words.
BigRed:
I've had this screen name since back in Archinect 1.0 days (back when I was still a student), and I can guarantee that all my colleagues can see the humor in it.
I really hope no schools send acceptance notifications via postal mail. Canada post blows and I am worried I will NEVER actually get it (this has happened with mail sent from the US before).
Specifically GSD...hoping for a short email saying yes or no...then the package to follow in the mail (if yes).
I dont even want to hear from gsapp at this point...I just want to stay forever in this "not rejected" state and feel cool with you guys :) .. while it lasts, before they come to their senses.
ha ha. yeah, canuck. (btw, for whoever watched the Olympics closing ceremony, we don't have flying huge beavers or polar bears around here. lol. that was embarrassing)
Yesterday I have seen mainly people posting rejection e-mails. God knows if they sent out those first and they'll follow up with happy news after they've agreed to turn all the "maybe's" into final yes and no's.
slim chance for the "token canuck". they'll be like: oooh..he's from the team that stole our hockey gold. he's out. damn flying beaver.
not to mention that i'm romanian born, so ( even if i'm 6'0" ), i would not fit the Princeton speculative expectation. Nah..i kid the demographic profiling. Schools would never do that. (i believe and hope)
why do schools take sweet ass time: just for you to feel LUCKY you're in, and be in eternal gratitude (even if your portfolio is just swell enough for them to arm wrestle over you)
I think schools have personalities and sometimes strong-minded deans and professors have certain biases about who they want to recruit.
Here is my two-minute stream-of-consciousness super-subjective impression of the schools I applied to. Don't get me wrong. I love them all and would be honored to attend any of them:
Yale is the super-finished-work/peter-eisenmann/meaning-and-symbol-over-performance/affordable-house-making school.
MIT is the unapologetic/emphasis-on-materials/super-legit/dorky school.
The GSD is the oma-like-starchitect-factory/boring-core-requirements/beer-and-dogs/massive-gund-hall/work-on-your-peofessors'-projects-till-you-drop-dead/diversity school.
Columbia is the omg-we're-in-new-york/x-labs/parametric-sustainable-stuff/computer-renderings/insert-stuff-here/who-do-you-think-you-are/what-do-you-mean-studio-space-this-is-new-york school.
I just submitted today cuz my W2s were just finished. I'm not sure how deadlines could have passed if that info isn't accessible yet. I filed as an independent. I don't think it's ever too late since FAFSA works autonomously, just send it in and let the machine roll out.
Just a heads up to those still waiting to hear from UMich--I didn't get an email, but I checked my status and a decision was there. I've been placed on the waitlist.
waqas is right - every school has a very distinct and calculated identity. i enjoyed listening to each school distinguish itself during the open houses in the fall. it's interesting to hear how they collectively express themselves, and how they measure themselves against their competition.
columbia comes off as arrogant, but i think they're just more direct than the others. harvard is definitely a machine, while yale's students seemed less like architects and more like scientists. penn was difficult to pin down. they seemed to be a sci-arc on the east coast, given the amount of digital/parametric visual projects, only the most crucial difference being that they are training you to be an architect and not an artist. i also thought it was funny to hear stern proudly declare "we're not like those guys up the road" when asked about the school's attitude towards the thesis project.
i was accepted to a top school for undergrad that technically i had not met the minimum requirements for.
i think schools emphasis how heavily they weigh quantifiables like grades, scores, essays, portfolios, etc. in order to discourage those who are too far under qualified from even applying. in practice though they are obviously much more flexible with admissions than they let on.
i also doubt that schools are looking for a class full of whiz kid overachievers. they want people who are different enough to be able to stir the pot a little. it's like casting a reality tv show. you need
"i'm here to win not make friends" person, the shy nice guy, the douchebag, the girl that everyone loves, the jokester, etc.
your life narrative is your most important design piece.
it's all about playing up your angle, whatever that is. the most boring person can appear interesting if they craft their life story well. and that can very easily trump good grades and a nice portfolio.
"ha ha. yeah, canuck. (btw, for whoever watched the Olympics closing ceremony, we don't have flying huge beavers or polar bears around here. lol. that was embarrassing)"
Yeah that was apparently meant to be tongue in cheek. Like parading all the stereotypes people think of when they think of Canada. It was Canadian humor, making fun of ourselves. I thought it kinda sucked. I kept flipping back and forth b/e canadian tv and u.s. tv and they didn't get the joke, they took it seriously. I doubt other countries got it as well.
I don't think UW has started yet. I assumed that the poster made a mistake and meant Washington University (in St. Louis). They were sending decisions at that time.
2010 M.Arch applicants, commiserate here!
praxis99 - URM = underrepresented minority
I believe it refers to minorities whose population percentage in the school is typically lower than the population percentage in the country that the school is located in.
For example, if there are only X% Native Americans at a certain school, but Y% of Native Americans in the United States, and the school is located in the United States and Y>X, then Native Americans are a URM.
I believe that the typical URMs include Native Americans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, African Americans, and maybe a few others. NOT whites, NOT Asians, and NOT men.
so...ok
GSAPP M. Arch 1
i see 95% got rejected yesterday.
and a few odd postings of being accepted.
now: i got into Yale (so also reasonable chances for Columbia), but no news from Columbia.
who's in the "no GSAPP" bucket...and how could this be interpreted.
btw, to all of those applying to Canada.
UofT is a really nice environment. good choice. good luck
*NOT whites, NOT Asians, and NOT men ...
... in the United States, of course.
How are everyone's GRE scores?
so Razvan...you must be right in Columbia's crosshairs for "token canuck"..nice
I've also heard nothing from them. where do you get 95% from? the only acceptances I saw were for the M AAP program. The only way I interpret it is: I haven't been rejected. no more no less.
@Razvan
Same "no GSAPP" boat. This could be interpreted in two ways.
You're not in, yet.
You're not out, yet.
cmyk08
love it.
ahahaha i had to google 'canuck'
MAMBO - gre score = not good
BigRed-
I applied to the same schools minus GSD. Where are you from?
Seattle
mugged:
thank you
all:
as a staff member of a MArchI-granting institution, I can assure you that, at least here, the application/portfolio review process isn't as arbitrary it seems many of you think it is.
mine weren't so hot (for the ivies), verbal- 570, math-690.
my GRE is math 780 verbal 310 :) but since i am international applicant i guess they don't care my verbal score.
Bucku,
I received an e-mail from Pratt last week saying they didn't receive official transcripts from my undergraduate schools. They replied back saying thank you for sending transcripts.
New to this forum and so I guess this is my M.Arch I application status:
GSAPP: No Response
Yale: No Response
Pratt: No Response
Cornell: No Response
Princeton: No Response
GPA: 3.73 B.S. Architecture @ Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Previously attended UT Austin for Civil Engineering
Profile:
Filipino, Canadian citizen, raised in texas, living in NYC.
allergic to cats.
Flat-footed.
Gonna see Hot Chip in a month!!!!!!
sweetpotato
Don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to say anything bad about RISD at all, or belly dancing for that matter, I know that RISD is a great program. I had looked there a few years back for undergrad and looked at it again for applying to grad schools as well.
I think it is pretty awesome that you have pretty much grown up in dance your whole life, and from what I know about RISD it sounds like it would be great fit for you. I know a couple of my close friends who have, pretty much the same as you, spent their whole life in dance even getting a degree in dance in undergrad.
Anyway good luck to you!
Pixelwhore ... Way to represent your institution with such a classy screen name.
Re: diversity, if you think you are at a disadvantage because of your skin color, nationality, hipster status, whatever, look for other ways in which you may be diverse, or offer something to the school. Sweetpotato, I don’t want to fuel any further anxiety at this time, but I hope that your personality was able to show through in your port/SoP, because you definitely should have included the, “I'd also like to be able to give something back” line.
Be very clear and explicitly state what it is that only YOU can bring to the school. Yeah, you might be one of the generic applicants based on skin color, but you are probably the only one who can bring your experience, I don’t know, working through cultural differences to build emergency housing for victims of natural disaster or starting up the only national “Belly-Dancing, Pole-Vaulting, Improv Group” at your undergad location. Lots of ways to stand out when you’re just one of a thousand.
BigRed-
Same here. Did you graduate from the undergrad program?
Between 1100-1200 (not stellar, but acceptable). I opted to put my efforts into my portfolio, statement of interest, and researching schools rather than studying arcane GRE words.
Jizzy, that is hilarious.
BigRed:
I've had this screen name since back in Archinect 1.0 days (back when I was still a student), and I can guarantee that all my colleagues can see the humor in it.
I am also in the GSAPP no response category.
720 math, 660 verbal
GRE: 710q 670v
GPA, not so much...
Does anyone have any idea when we will be hearing from the GSD?
my list:
The AA DRL: accepted
GSAPP MSAAD: accepted
GSD M.ARCH II: waiting...
I really hope no schools send acceptance notifications via postal mail. Canada post blows and I am worried I will NEVER actually get it (this has happened with mail sent from the US before).
Specifically GSD...hoping for a short email saying yes or no...then the package to follow in the mail (if yes).
I dont even want to hear from gsapp at this point...I just want to stay forever in this "not rejected" state and feel cool with you guys :) .. while it lasts, before they come to their senses.
3.92 GPA. no response from GSAPP either.
@ TheVillain:
ha ha. yeah, canuck. (btw, for whoever watched the Olympics closing ceremony, we don't have flying huge beavers or polar bears around here. lol. that was embarrassing)
Yesterday I have seen mainly people posting rejection e-mails. God knows if they sent out those first and they'll follow up with happy news after they've agreed to turn all the "maybe's" into final yes and no's.
slim chance for the "token canuck". they'll be like: oooh..he's from the team that stole our hockey gold. he's out. damn flying beaver.
not to mention that i'm romanian born, so ( even if i'm 6'0" ), i would not fit the Princeton speculative expectation. Nah..i kid the demographic profiling. Schools would never do that. (i believe and hope)
why do schools take sweet ass time: just for you to feel LUCKY you're in, and be in eternal gratitude (even if your portfolio is just swell enough for them to arm wrestle over you)
but yeah. mind games are fun.
good luck all with the waiting.
I think schools have personalities and sometimes strong-minded deans and professors have certain biases about who they want to recruit.
Here is my two-minute stream-of-consciousness super-subjective impression of the schools I applied to. Don't get me wrong. I love them all and would be honored to attend any of them:
Yale is the super-finished-work/peter-eisenmann/meaning-and-symbol-over-performance/affordable-house-making school.
MIT is the unapologetic/emphasis-on-materials/super-legit/dorky school.
The GSD is the oma-like-starchitect-factory/boring-core-requirements/beer-and-dogs/massive-gund-hall/work-on-your-peofessors'-projects-till-you-drop-dead/diversity school.
Columbia is the omg-we're-in-new-york/x-labs/parametric-sustainable-stuff/computer-renderings/insert-stuff-here/who-do-you-think-you-are/what-do-you-mean-studio-space-this-is-new-york school.
Princeton is... well Princeton is Princeton.
hmm, flying woodland critters. I think columbia could use a few of those.
OH everyone,
a question. Has anyone filed their FAFSA already? Just wondering if filing as an independent student is better than filing with parental information.
Unless your parents are dirt poor, its probably a better idea to file as an independent
Just out of curiosity, and it may be to early to even ask this question but im curious as to what peoples thoughts are,
how many people are going to reapply next year if they don't get into their first or second choice school?
waqas: that was brilliant lol
Villain: couldn't agree more.
I am doing my FAFSA right now and was wondering the same thing. I am going the independent route.
Have most people filed already? Is it too late to get any money?
Mobility,
I just submitted today cuz my W2s were just finished. I'm not sure how deadlines could have passed if that info isn't accessible yet. I filed as an independent. I don't think it's ever too late since FAFSA works autonomously, just send it in and let the machine roll out.
you need to do your research, but in my case, filing as an independent while in undergrad got me a whole lot of aid money.
Just a heads up to those still waiting to hear from UMich--I didn't get an email, but I checked my status and a decision was there. I've been placed on the waitlist.
waqas - nice! although you should have said more abt princeton :)
waqas is right - every school has a very distinct and calculated identity. i enjoyed listening to each school distinguish itself during the open houses in the fall. it's interesting to hear how they collectively express themselves, and how they measure themselves against their competition.
columbia comes off as arrogant, but i think they're just more direct than the others. harvard is definitely a machine, while yale's students seemed less like architects and more like scientists. penn was difficult to pin down. they seemed to be a sci-arc on the east coast, given the amount of digital/parametric visual projects, only the most crucial difference being that they are training you to be an architect and not an artist. i also thought it was funny to hear stern proudly declare "we're not like those guys up the road" when asked about the school's attitude towards the thesis project.
i was accepted to a top school for undergrad that technically i had not met the minimum requirements for.
i think schools emphasis how heavily they weigh quantifiables like grades, scores, essays, portfolios, etc. in order to discourage those who are too far under qualified from even applying. in practice though they are obviously much more flexible with admissions than they let on.
i also doubt that schools are looking for a class full of whiz kid overachievers. they want people who are different enough to be able to stir the pot a little. it's like casting a reality tv show. you need
"i'm here to win not make friends" person, the shy nice guy, the douchebag, the girl that everyone loves, the jokester, etc.
no response from GSAPP either. Got into MIT and waitlist for Yale...
your life narrative is your most important design piece.
it's all about playing up your angle, whatever that is. the most boring person can appear interesting if they craft their life story well. and that can very easily trump good grades and a nice portfolio.
waqas- I love that the only school on your list you don't describe is the one you go to!!! Go figure.
anyone here get into the university of washington yet? I saw one person posted an acceptance today for M.Arch 3.
what... really UW is starting? where did you see it aveclaudenum?
"ha ha. yeah, canuck. (btw, for whoever watched the Olympics closing ceremony, we don't have flying huge beavers or polar bears around here. lol. that was embarrassing)"
Yeah that was apparently meant to be tongue in cheek. Like parading all the stereotypes people think of when they think of Canada. It was Canadian humor, making fun of ourselves. I thought it kinda sucked. I kept flipping back and forth b/e canadian tv and u.s. tv and they didn't get the joke, they took it seriously. I doubt other countries got it as well.
I don't think UW has started yet. I assumed that the poster made a mistake and meant Washington University (in St. Louis). They were sending decisions at that time.
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