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MOIRE EFFECT

bentropy

so everyone knows what a moire effect is...

(in case you don't: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern)

i am hoping to create a moire effect that would involve two systems of overlapping louvers, one tilted at a small angle.

movement would be involved as well, either rotation of the louvers to create alternative opacities/densities or lateral shifting.

i am interested in knowing what the copious amount of information the collective minds of archinect posses can provide in terms of moire effects (intentional, and involving movement would be great).

thanks everyone!

ps: the design is still in its conceptual phase, so tangents are welcomed!

 
Jul 22, 08 1:53 pm
drums please, Fab?

unintentional - i have screens on my windows with exterior shades (facing west, passive solar technique to reduce heat gain) and it's moiré-ing like crazy! i don't like :(

Jul 22, 08 2:07 pm  · 
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Geof

Reiser & Umemoto did a project involving the moire effect:
A competition entry for the New Museum of Contemporary Art.

The museum passed in favor of the "hell yes" sign...





Jul 22, 08 5:53 pm  · 
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phuyaké

hdem's rossetti pharmaceutical building has one of the more intense moire effects i've seen, screen printed glass over perforated metal:



some more on my poor excuse for a flickr page

nagaishi's work uses the moire quite a bit also, in their burberry store:





and in their louis vuitton store:





louis must like the moire thing because jun aoki's design for the store in roppongi hills does something similar with a different pattern:



Jul 22, 08 6:19 pm  · 
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phuyaké

also probably the best example, M3 Architects' Brisbane Girls Grammar School:



Jul 22, 08 6:33 pm  · 
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phuyaké

ok a couple more, i really need to complete my thoughts before i post;

Holl's Woningbouwvereniging Het Oosten


Feilden Clegg Bradley's London Centre for Nanotechnology:





Jul 22, 08 6:54 pm  · 
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holz.box

loos architects


UN studio, teatro agora


h&dem's de youg

Jul 22, 08 7:45 pm  · 
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drums please, Fab?

and my window:



i'm so cutting edge! right there with the big boys ..

Jul 22, 08 10:43 pm  · 
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holz.box

OMA's mccormick centre has some visual trickiness that really effed with my head when the sun was shining...


h&dem, walker art center


kramm + striggl, expohaus


sanaa, new museum


david macullo


Lands Architetture, una boite moiree


wandel hofer lorch, jewish centre, muenchen


and a variation:
tivoli gardens

Jul 22, 08 11:19 pm  · 
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n_

Hi holz,

I want your brain.

Thanks,
n_

Jul 22, 08 11:36 pm  · 
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holz.box

nah, it's mostly worthless.

chipperfield, des moines library


make sure you carry that detail on down... like these sweet light fixtures


kuromata's how high the moon chair

Jul 23, 08 1:03 am  · 
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holz.box

here is that light fixture

Jul 23, 08 1:05 am  · 
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cll123

This is an animated example of a band moire for a project that never met reality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQqFNWVbOT0 .The sister project used animation to forecast the moire effects in custom cut panels before the client purchased them. This project was built. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowCvNIgZMY and it was pretty accurate to the rendering.

Jul 23, 08 1:16 am  · 
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Carl Douglas (agfa8x)

holz you make the rest of us look bad.

Jul 23, 08 1:33 am  · 
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bowling_ball

the trend for putting louvres or slats to create shadow patterns should be banned from the world. My eyes can't focus (at all) when I see the shadows, and it makes me so dizzy sometimes that I need to leave immediately. I'm not epileptic, but that's the closest sort of analogy I can make. When I see the shadow patterns, my eyes feel like they're going to explode, and I get an instant (though temporary) headache. Ack!

Jul 23, 08 10:34 am  · 
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oldenvirginia

I'm wondering how many of these are real moire patterns and how many are just poorly compressed images of mesh.

Jul 24, 08 10:04 am  · 
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oldenvirginia

Also, something not widely known but worth mentioning is that the moire effect can -in some cases - trigger epileptic fits so should be used with caution. As a kid I had seen it used in shops here in the UK and had to rush my mum out of the store before she collapsed.

Jul 24, 08 10:06 am  · 
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BrentJWatanabe

by real do you mean mathematically correct somehow?

Jul 24, 08 10:21 am  · 
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oldenvirginia

No...sorry. I mean real in the sense that a moire effect is actually occuring. If you take a single sheet of mesh with no moire effect and incorrectly downsample the image you can produce a moire effect in the image despite no effect existing in real life.

Jul 24, 08 10:27 am  · 
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BrentJWatanabe

I dunno, the de Young museum effect is created from an image transposed (abstractly) into a perforation pattern, according to my readings of the building anyways. So I'm not sure it would qualify as an intentional interference pattern. It's actually what it looks like as far as I know.

Jul 24, 08 2:45 pm  · 
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bowling_ball

maybe i AM epileptic. Who knew? Thanks archinect.

Jul 24, 08 11:01 pm  · 
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Apurimac

Just tried rendering a moire mesh in Maxwell (2"x4" Slats, one group rotated 5 deg from the other) and it crashed my Maxwell, just a heads up.

Aug 5, 08 12:47 am  · 
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207moak
single speed mass art animation

Aug 5, 08 10:40 am  · 
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SDR

Correct on the de Young -- the only moire would be if and where the perforated copper skin might cast its own shadow on a solid surface behind the screen. . .

Aug 5, 08 11:20 am  · 
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