i still rock a sharpie.....

then i scan then and tweek just a bit on photoshop..... been trying to create images like those in the product design realm..... simple/quick renderings..

i'm not really a fan of highly hottness computer renderings......

illustrations have alot more feeling and character........


but then again you have to know viz/sketchup/max/etc in order to work in the design studio at any larger firm.......


i have a full set of tria markers...i think it was around $350 new..... i'm afraid to even try to mess with them......


b

I have a set of 72 Copic's they are sweet, but maybe I am not the best with them.

Nope, but I get a lot of client's that were sold on the "architect's" rendering, which does them no good in presenting the project.

I like pretty drawings more than photo real renderings, but they are more art than informative/marketing pieces, which means they ain't worth much to the real world. The days of getting paid for hand drawings is gone, I am afraid.

Yeah well, being from the UK sharpies definitely rock as there is no equivalent here. As for rendering -that went out with drawing boards, the liquid lunch and slack liability insurance.

Get with Photoshop and never look back. No one except fellow professionals will feel nostalgic.

for our urban design and planning initiatives and clients, marker / colored pencil is still the way for me to go. show the public something that looks too "finished," and they feel completely left out of the process. i can do these renderings in less than 90 minutes each from a photograph, and it is a rather efficient use of everyone's time.

http://www.pbase.com/archetype/indy_gini
http://www.pbase.com/archetype/drawings

What, no Sharpies in the UK? Do I smell an import opportunity?!

lb- quit smellin the sharpies!

Actually the Pantone markers - that yes, I still use, a few times a year - have the small I love.

Remember Scented El Marko markers from the 1970's?

i still use crayola crayons

No but i do use them in Sketchbook Painter and ArtRage ;)

archetype those are really nice...some look like a lot more effort than just 90 mins. nice work.

archetype is right. be careful not to scare the clients with the photoreal stuff. it's definitely a time+place argument, and there is room for both as part of the overall design process.

well.. for charrette work, visioning, concept-development for internal review, and other day-to-day design tasks, I'm not really sure how else one would work. Sure.. you might use a CAD base if you have it, but these activities are pretty much trace, pen and pencil tasks. I'm not really sure how else you'd do it.

arche,
those are nice..... i would like to bang out some stuff like that...... i think those type of images convey alot better than the typical run of the mill hottness renderings....

yes, very nice drawings, Archetype

i was recently hired as freelance for a condo builder to render their buildings in pencil. at first, i drew a freehand sketch in 3 point perspective to show them what it would be like. now, i use CAD to put in the measurements and find interesting views, then trace and color. its funny that the "designer" is not able to perform these functions on his overpriced salary, so they pay a student poorly to do his job...

heres a few of my simple 2d sketches..... been going through my sketch books lately to try to add some stuff to my portfolio website

Unless you design in 3D, like I do, so you have a 3D model to start with, print/sketch, mess with, print/sketch. You can render it any number of ways to keep it looking loose.

I can't design without 3D or without sketching, or at least not effectively.


Model building is the only thing that is rarely worth the time, although I do really miss a well crafted bass wood model.

got to pull out the markers and pencil crayons when designing. Its funny alot of times I colour weeks/months after drawing it when I'm trying "colour conceive" - but like b I do import/scan my stuff to photoshop even if just to fill

cryzko, how do you add your color to those sketches ? In the old days it might be rub-on sheets -- at least yours have that look. . .

no one showing anymore examples?

archetype- very nice - i knew i had seen them somewhere before ;)

Ah -- photoshop, you said.

sdr,
i just use photoshop......

i wish i had some marker skills....but never really had the chance to practice on dwg's in the past....

i had a knack for doing ink on mylar with solid shadows though.

i also did ink on mylar and then taped off the building from the backside and spraypainted a solid color..... looked really nice considering i did 4 boards that were 24x36 each

I can picture it. Nice. . .!

Are electric pencil sharpeners gone already ?

sdr

here's one of the 24x36 boards is did that backpainting on...... took me about 6 scans and piecing it together to be able to get on online....... you can get the idea just by this photoshopped setup...




then some lines on mylar i did.... these were about 24x12 boards....off course everything looks better when you scale it down



i just liked the monotone/simplicity of ink/mylar dwgs

Those are handsome boards. The device of a background rectangle of color with the subject(s) expanding beyond its boundary is very effective, isn't it.

i didnt want to do a solid background...so all my images i have been working on, i just toss in a rectangle with color to give it a punch.......just enough i would say.......i think it helps give some character rather than leaving the inside/outside of the building the same.....

i'm still learning...one day...hahahah......

We render for designers even during the design progress. Say, the Lawn Club on Celebrity Solstice was designed and re-designed for almost 2 years by WBA. Dozens of renderings were produced to visualize their ideas. And, it's actually not as costly as one can think - 3D is reusable.