I understand that doing this kind of work can be viewed by some as architectural kitsch but if it was great architecture 200 or 300 years ago it is still great architecture today. And there is nothing wrong in doing this work. I would love to build the Hampton Plantation house from the web site; what a great learning potential these types of projects present .
Actually, I might necessarily not even call this one pastiche since its architectural flair seems to be genuine. Columns that don't have seems, shutters that work, properly assembled tin roofs, building fronts that aren't entirely false, balconies that can be used, windows with real muntions. And the buildings are even decorated on the backside even if only minimally!
Awww, another sci-arc lover who can't stand anything with a little history in it. Louise Kahn was trained by Schmuck, and follows the mass that went to sci-arc to NOT become architects.
How about I trade in my architect license to be an artsytect. What if next time, I just put in one of these fancy sci-arc designs in my urban park.
I think you guys are getting all tempest-in-a-teapot about this, but I admit "artsytect" is a funny descriptor - I'm surprised I've never heard that one before.
And as J.James points out, a working shutter is actually a wonderful thing, no matter how it looks.
I'd take the neoclassical pastiche over the hodgepodge of modern-spanish-casual-classical architecture that's been thrown up all over my state.
It's like someone drank a bunch of beige-colored wine coolers, ate a dozen sheets of Styrofoam and then downed a whole bottle of Ipecac traveling down the interstate at 88 miles per hour.
he is just trying to be like father Duany, you must understand. And in line with the family he doesnt really stand for anything! hahahaha!
so to get attention and attempt to stand out from a mediocre education, he attacks our schools, our art, our profession, and exploits division in architecture, which have always been here. its a career going nowhere right before our very eyes!
J. James R., you've just described most of the residential architecture in the southeastern US ---- i'm a little futher north in the region, so the sputum contains a lot of red brick, too i had a zealotous colleague explain to me one day how the classical proportions as given us by vitruvius and palladio are actually the proportions given to us by god and to design in any other way is a moral affront ---- scary ------ i hear so many things here that make me recall the line from Absolom, Absolom where Quentin Compton is in tears as he learns of mix of horror and beauty that is the deep south and he keeps repeating to himself, "I don't hate the South, I don't hate the South, I don't hate the South..."
"i had a zealotous colleague explain to me one day how the classical proportions as given us by vitruvius and palladio are actually the proportions given to us by god and to design in any other way is a moral affront"
Next time explain to him that Zeus is too busy shapeshifting and having sex to care that much about proportions.
Just because I like Monticello, doesn't mean that I should replicate it over and over again.
Using a classical dialogue is seldom appropriate today when designing architecture. Just as if you were to walk around speaking shakespearean today, people would not think you were too cool. Dork. Its about progress. We have a much more efficient way of communicating now.
Really?....that's what you're most worried about?.....classical architecture all over the landscape....really?...not the diarrhea that's actually built most everywhere?
You've watched "The Fountainhead" one too many times.
ps: and please, please, don't appropriate the name of a great architect, dead though he may be....you're not worthy (and I don't even know you, but I know that much).
Speaking of making fun of people. What happened to DisplacedArchitect? He had the most absurd comments ever. Maybe he changed his screen name. Do y'all remember him?
i don't think being traditional counts as an automatic good thing, nam. lots of stupid traditions out there.
as terry pratchett humorously points out, sometime an old lady with no teeth is not actually wise and filled with earthy wisdom but instead just old and ignorant.
but anyway in this case looks like nice work to me. what's the argument about?
very true jump.i guess i was just trying to say these buildings seem to at least be contextual in sense of a sort of "traditional" regional vernacular....
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burningmans job
This is the kind of place he works at:
http://www.historicalconcepts.com/
(throws up in mouth)
he's a real architect, making big things happen in 2012.
sell-out..
i cant wait til i can pay off my gargantuan loans from Umiami and sell my soul to classical architecture
<grabs popcorn>
Louis Kahn, is this the kind of place he works at, or the place he works at?
If it's the latter, you're about to get banned.
what is wrong with building historical buildings?
what you don't like Monticello?
what's wrong with this firm's work? for historical pastiche, it's pretty good.
louis - weren't you trained in the beaux-arts?
I understand that doing this kind of work can be viewed by some as architectural kitsch but if it was great architecture 200 or 300 years ago it is still great architecture today. And there is nothing wrong in doing this work. I would love to build the Hampton Plantation house from the web site; what a great learning potential these types of projects present .
Actually, I might necessarily not even call this one pastiche since its architectural flair seems to be genuine. Columns that don't have seems, shutters that work, properly assembled tin roofs, building fronts that aren't entirely false, balconies that can be used, windows with real muntions. And the buildings are even decorated on the backside even if only minimally!
Awww, another sci-arc lover who can't stand anything with a little history in it. Louise Kahn was trained by Schmuck, and follows the mass that went to sci-arc to NOT become architects.
How about I trade in my architect license to be an artsytect. What if next time, I just put in one of these fancy sci-arc designs in my urban park.
Where's that toilet paper?
I think you guys are getting all tempest-in-a-teapot about this, but I admit "artsytect" is a funny descriptor - I'm surprised I've never heard that one before.
And as J.James points out, a working shutter is actually a wonderful thing, no matter how it looks.
Heck, I'll even take non-functioning shutters as long as they're sized correctly for the window.
I'd take the neoclassical pastiche over the hodgepodge of modern-spanish-casual-classical architecture that's been thrown up all over my state.
It's like someone drank a bunch of beige-colored wine coolers, ate a dozen sheets of Styrofoam and then downed a whole bottle of Ipecac traveling down the interstate at 88 miles per hour.
burningboy is the roy cohn of archinect
he is just trying to be like father Duany, you must understand. And in line with the family he doesnt really stand for anything! hahahaha!
so to get attention and attempt to stand out from a mediocre education, he attacks our schools, our art, our profession, and exploits division in architecture, which have always been here. its a career going nowhere right before our very eyes!
J. James R., you've just described most of the residential architecture in the southeastern US ---- i'm a little futher north in the region, so the sputum contains a lot of red brick, too i had a zealotous colleague explain to me one day how the classical proportions as given us by vitruvius and palladio are actually the proportions given to us by god and to design in any other way is a moral affront ---- scary ------ i hear so many things here that make me recall the line from Absolom, Absolom where Quentin Compton is in tears as he learns of mix of horror and beauty that is the deep south and he keeps repeating to himself, "I don't hate the South, I don't hate the South, I don't hate the South..."
"i had a zealotous colleague explain to me one day how the classical proportions as given us by vitruvius and palladio are actually the proportions given to us by god and to design in any other way is a moral affront"
Next time explain to him that Zeus is too busy shapeshifting and having sex to care that much about proportions.
Yeah, that was always my excuse for not knowing the proportions of the Classic orders, as well.
Just because I like Monticello, doesn't mean that I should replicate it over and over again.
Using a classical dialogue is seldom appropriate today when designing architecture. Just as if you were to walk around speaking shakespearean today, people would not think you were too cool. Dork. Its about progress. We have a much more efficient way of communicating now.
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Really?....that's what you're most worried about?.....classical architecture all over the landscape....really?...not the diarrhea that's actually built most everywhere?
You've watched "The Fountainhead" one too many times.
ps: and please, please, don't appropriate the name of a great architect, dead though he may be....you're not worthy (and I don't even know you, but I know that much).
v. funny plugnpla n jjamesr ------ tell me, is Death a Cliffs Community?
Speaking of making fun of people. What happened to DisplacedArchitect? He had the most absurd comments ever. Maybe he changed his screen name. Do y'all remember him?
Emilio, Louis Kahn sucks!
The architect not the archinect
How would you know, you weren't even there.....
Oh, this thread got old-school funny. I love it!
Seriously though, do you guys remember DisplacedArchitect? I miss him
Louis Kahn why don't you play nice. Or show us something you designed or built lately...
I will admit those aren't the most cutting edge buildings but they are at least "traditional" and better than many contemporary McMansions...
i don't think being traditional counts as an automatic good thing, nam. lots of stupid traditions out there.
as terry pratchett humorously points out, sometime an old lady with no teeth is not actually wise and filled with earthy wisdom but instead just old and ignorant.
but anyway in this case looks like nice work to me. what's the argument about?
very true jump.i guess i was just trying to say these buildings seem to at least be contextual in sense of a sort of "traditional" regional vernacular....
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