I've been thinking that sometimes I really get offended when people say happy easter because they don't know that I'm half Jewish and there are MANY PEOPLE in my same position who feel very frusterated about it.My mother is a the Catholic religious and my father is Jewish so it makes me more Jewish.We still celebrate both holidays so I truly think that I am a Jewish Christian.But fellow Americans I urge you to please keep your Jewish brethern in mind when you go around eating your cadberry eggs ham and bacon and when you watch your children sit on the easter bunny's lap.I feel like we are truly blessed in our BLESSED country so let us to keep that feeling alive.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS WORKS MUCH BETTER!!!! SO HAPPY HOLLIDAYS TO ARCHINECT!!!!!
Apurimic, it's as simple as the following. when you consider yourself a believer in Christ then you're a Christian. If you consider yourself to be a Jew then you're Jewish. Two completely different religions otherwise there wouldn't two different classifications.
Christianity: Christ, Christmas, Virgin Mary, The 12 apostles, Last Supper, Christ Dying for peoples' sins, Easter, Good Friday, the Second Comming, should I keep going? Let's see, Church, Preists, pastors, communion, confessions, ets. Still should I keep going? Are any of these synonymous with Judaism?
Judaism: Passover, Cadars, Channukah, Yom Kippur, Moses, Israel, Brisa, Kosher food, Yamakas, Synagogues, Rabbis, ets. Are these synonymous with Christianity? I know you know the answer to this.
Although all of the major religions like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are complex in how intertwined they really are, they are different religions. And people adhere to one and therefore call themselves a follower in one of them. Otherwise people are just full of it and are living a life of contradiction.
omg... Considering the fact that half the bibile, which is often the most quoted part amongst Christian fundamentalists is the TORAH and the fact that jesus was in fact, a Jew and we all pray to the same god. Arguing we are two completely different religions because we hold sabbath on different days and have different holidays because the catholic church killed off and assimilated all the early sects of chirstians which more closely resmbled jews, is purely pedantic and that kind of nitpicking differences between the three faiths has fueled conflict for centuries.
The core difference has always been the belief that chirst is God, this fubared with jewish rationale that their messiah would come closer to the end of the world and with the islamic rationale of "no god but god". While this is a sizeable difference, the core fundamentals of the faiths are quite similar.
Apurimac, what you're saying is almost historically correct and I most certainly didn't deny how intertwined both religions are. But your insistance that the two religions are the same is exactly why there are ridiculous organizations out there like "Jew For Jesus" and the 700 Club.
Most core fundementals of any faith are similar but they are not the same religions. They are completely different.
well, as an agnostic, I try to take things like "Happy Easter" as a wish for a happy day, which happens to be the widely celebrated holiday called Easter. Focus on the wisher's kind thoughts towards you, not their Christ-centric worldview.
On the other hand though, I understand, because one of the things I get pissed off the most about is when somebody says "I'll pray for you." So, I guess we all have our little pet peeves.
That's a good point. I will still celebrate Christmas with my family though, because I like the intended spirit of the holiday. Plus my mom would throw a fit if I didn't.
Im not insisting they are the same Archmed but they are definately not is "completely different". Its those kinds of absoulte assertations that have fueled religious hatred for centuries. It really, really aggravtes me when people focus so much on some little "difference" than concentrate on whats important which is the fact that fundamentally all three faiths are remarkable similar. Christianity and Taoism are different religions, Chritianity and Judaism are similar religions.
This might have been covered in this thread somewhere, but frankly I'm too lazy to check right now, but why is it that there are a million Christmas songs but no Easter songs?
This is totally silly. Shouldn't one simply wish whatever one wants? If I'm greeting you as a stranger, i have no way of telling what your particular bent is going to be, so why should I worry about it? Why try to anticipate what some stranger may actually think? Why don't YOU just open your mind a bit and accept whatever the hell other people choose to wish to you as an expression of THEIR own particular beliefs? If you want people to respect your beliefs, shouldn't you respect theirs?
Everyone always mistakes me for Jewish and wishes me happy passover, invites me home for their seder, etc. I find this extremely flattering and always thank them and wish them the same, despite not believing in their beliefs at all.
Consider it a compliment that anyone wants you to have a happy ANYTHING. Would you rather no one made happy comments at all? Then we wouldn't risk possibly offending someone who didn't think the same exact thing we do.
i never thought saying "happy easter" was offensive...and i'm a quarter jewish, not too shabby. of course i do enjoy me some manischewitz too. that blackberry wine is the shiznit. except after too much manischewitz i'm always too drunk to even bother looking for the afikhomen. let the kids have it, is what i say. they only get one glass of the manischewitz. why not let them have a little joy in their lives?
did anyone catch the south park easter episode? best explanation yet of why we celebrate the ressurection of christ with a 6' tall bunny. peter rabbit!
when people say happy easter to me i just say thanks, and that's it. It doesn't bother me that people wish me a happy for whatever holiday their religion recognizes. It does bother me that so many Christians don't stop to think that maybe not everyone is their religion (i.e. I'm agnostic), but beyond that, I'm not gonna throw a fuss about it.
Bobbi, you continue to convince me that you are just an archi-alter ego here to provoke silly arguments. Or perhaps you're just a pathetic person.
bobbi, get over it. wow, idiodic post. seriously, i have no problem saying happy easter or merry christmas. i celebrate those holidays.
i shouldn't feel guilty that i do.
1. i agree with superbeatledud..bobbi is just a provacateur...he/she
doesn't seem to add anything here...just hopes to start silly
arguments...i don't understand people that come on here just to see
if they can raise a fuss...but whatever.
2. i think the major difference between judaism and christianity is
fairly obvious. the old testament is part of the torah..but do they
have the new testament? jesus' death, for christians, is the
beginning of the 'new covenant' which wipes the slate clean as far
as sin goes...it puts to bed all of the sacrificing and rules of the
old testament...obviously not completely..but alot of the practices
of judaism are no longer necessary if you believe that christ wipes
away sin. major difference imo...christians believe in the trinity..
and jews believe jesus is a prophet (correct?), but not the son of god..
they're still waiting for the messiah. the major religions start more
or less from the same core and branch off into their own entities.
but i think they can qualify as being majorly different in their current
forms.
Jews definately don't believe that Jesus was a prophet. Muslims do though. All three Abrahamic religions are biblically intertwined but they all have major differences.
That doesn't mean people have the right to be intolerant towards people who follow certain religions. I think that psychological complexes that religious zealots spawn of higher distinction above all others is what causes the intolerence. And these are the extremist elements within those religious groups (i.e. infadels, goyim, and gentiles). And unfortunately that will continue for a long time. Religions don't kill people. People kill people. It's all about interpretations and representation.
thanks..wasn't sure about that one..didn't really know where jesus
stood with jews. is there any significance from him coming from
the line of david? anyway thanks for the clarification.
i don't think anyone's saying that religious views give anyone
the right to be intolerant of other people..as far as i can tell.
larson, I was responding to apurumac because he was saying that when people think of religions as inherently different, it causes people to be intolerant of other peoples' religious views.
EASTER is Not for EVERYONE
I've been thinking that sometimes I really get offended when people say happy easter because they don't know that I'm half Jewish and there are MANY PEOPLE in my same position who feel very frusterated about it.My mother is a the Catholic religious and my father is Jewish so it makes me more Jewish.We still celebrate both holidays so I truly think that I am a Jewish Christian.But fellow Americans I urge you to please keep your Jewish brethern in mind when you go around eating your cadberry eggs ham and bacon and when you watch your children sit on the easter bunny's lap.I feel like we are truly blessed in our BLESSED country so let us to keep that feeling alive.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS WORKS MUCH BETTER!!!! SO HAPPY HOLLIDAYS TO ARCHINECT!!!!!
"And of course, the good lord of Israel employs all of us together."
pot, meet kettle.
Primantiberg?
Happy Easter.
By the way how the hell can you be Christian and Jewish at the same time? They are both completely different religions.
Well, the daddy puts his...
"My mother is a the Catholic religious and my father is Jewish so it makes me more Jewish."
Isn't it usually the opposite?
Depends on which state your father's mother's parents got married in.
i say happy easter and im an athiest.
In Judaism you are your mother's religion. This person wouldn't be recognized as Jewish by conservative jews unless his/her mother converted.
Anyway, Happy Holidays to you! I do not observe any holiday today in my belief system, but I don't begrudge you yours.
arch, im hoping you joking about judaism and chirstianity being completely different religions...
judaism, christianity and islam are all abrahamic religions.
whether you are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc...today is still Easter
I once ate one too many Easter eggs and crapped my pants
i say they found the body , easter is called off
Apurimic, it's as simple as the following. when you consider yourself a believer in Christ then you're a Christian. If you consider yourself to be a Jew then you're Jewish. Two completely different religions otherwise there wouldn't two different classifications.
Christianity: Christ, Christmas, Virgin Mary, The 12 apostles, Last Supper, Christ Dying for peoples' sins, Easter, Good Friday, the Second Comming, should I keep going? Let's see, Church, Preists, pastors, communion, confessions, ets. Still should I keep going? Are any of these synonymous with Judaism?
Judaism: Passover, Cadars, Channukah, Yom Kippur, Moses, Israel, Brisa, Kosher food, Yamakas, Synagogues, Rabbis, ets. Are these synonymous with Christianity? I know you know the answer to this.
Although all of the major religions like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are complex in how intertwined they really are, they are different religions. And people adhere to one and therefore call themselves a follower in one of them. Otherwise people are just full of it and are living a life of contradiction.
I'm the only one in Studio today, which is good so no one has to see me eating the head off a giant chocolate bunny. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
omg... Considering the fact that half the bibile, which is often the most quoted part amongst Christian fundamentalists is the TORAH and the fact that jesus was in fact, a Jew and we all pray to the same god. Arguing we are two completely different religions because we hold sabbath on different days and have different holidays because the catholic church killed off and assimilated all the early sects of chirstians which more closely resmbled jews, is purely pedantic and that kind of nitpicking differences between the three faiths has fueled conflict for centuries.
The core difference has always been the belief that chirst is God, this fubared with jewish rationale that their messiah would come closer to the end of the world and with the islamic rationale of "no god but god". While this is a sizeable difference, the core fundamentals of the faiths are quite similar.
Apurimac, what you're saying is almost historically correct and I most certainly didn't deny how intertwined both religions are. But your insistance that the two religions are the same is exactly why there are ridiculous organizations out there like "Jew For Jesus" and the 700 Club.
Most core fundementals of any faith are similar but they are not the same religions. They are completely different.
well, as an agnostic, I try to take things like "Happy Easter" as a wish for a happy day, which happens to be the widely celebrated holiday called Easter. Focus on the wisher's kind thoughts towards you, not their Christ-centric worldview.
On the other hand though, I understand, because one of the things I get pissed off the most about is when somebody says "I'll pray for you." So, I guess we all have our little pet peeves.
My little pet peave is when I hear some religious Christian people asking non-Christians how they celebrate things like Christmas and Easter.
What part of "non-Christian" did they not particularly understand?
That's a good point. I will still celebrate Christmas with my family though, because I like the intended spirit of the holiday. Plus my mom would throw a fit if I didn't.
Im not insisting they are the same Archmed but they are definately not is "completely different". Its those kinds of absoulte assertations that have fueled religious hatred for centuries. It really, really aggravtes me when people focus so much on some little "difference" than concentrate on whats important which is the fact that fundamentally all three faiths are remarkable similar. Christianity and Taoism are different religions, Chritianity and Judaism are similar religions.
Get over it
TODAY IS HAPPINESS DAY
Is that melted Lego blocks being eaten?
I'm with vado. Happy Easter!
sheri, i think that is probably the cutest picture i have ever seen.
Easter = zombie Jesus... best holiday ever!
muslim+jew+christian=easter dinner. yum. (indian food)
This might have been covered in this thread somewhere, but frankly I'm too lazy to check right now, but why is it that there are a million Christmas songs but no Easter songs?
Probably because of the commercialization of christmas
thats because metal has that covered, where would those guys be without a crucifiction to write about.
in the meantime, eat an
easter bilby
i get orange juice for Easter brunch - damn hippie yoga fast shit ;(
mdler how's the fasting going? Still on just liquids?
christmas with your family, easter with your friends
This is totally silly. Shouldn't one simply wish whatever one wants? If I'm greeting you as a stranger, i have no way of telling what your particular bent is going to be, so why should I worry about it? Why try to anticipate what some stranger may actually think? Why don't YOU just open your mind a bit and accept whatever the hell other people choose to wish to you as an expression of THEIR own particular beliefs? If you want people to respect your beliefs, shouldn't you respect theirs?
Everyone always mistakes me for Jewish and wishes me happy passover, invites me home for their seder, etc. I find this extremely flattering and always thank them and wish them the same, despite not believing in their beliefs at all.
Consider it a compliment that anyone wants you to have a happy ANYTHING. Would you rather no one made happy comments at all? Then we wouldn't risk possibly offending someone who didn't think the same exact thing we do.
what up, myriam??? Hows the windy city?
i think the phrase "happy holidays" is a bunch of PC bullshit.
i never thought saying "happy easter" was offensive...and i'm a quarter jewish, not too shabby. of course i do enjoy me some manischewitz too. that blackberry wine is the shiznit. except after too much manischewitz i'm always too drunk to even bother looking for the afikhomen. let the kids have it, is what i say. they only get one glass of the manischewitz. why not let them have a little joy in their lives?
especially when i'm the one who hid it anyway.
mazel tov.
happy happy.
today's my wife's birthday. i'll still wish her happy birthday, even though she no longer believes in them.
very well put myriam.
happy monday everyone!
did anyone catch the south park easter episode? best explanation yet of why we celebrate the ressurection of christ with a 6' tall bunny. peter rabbit!
I agree with what J says. The two religions are totally different. Otherwise there would be no classification.
No more of this Jews for Jesus garbage. It's such wishful thinking.
when people say happy easter to me i just say thanks, and that's it. It doesn't bother me that people wish me a happy for whatever holiday their religion recognizes. It does bother me that so many Christians don't stop to think that maybe not everyone is their religion (i.e. I'm agnostic), but beyond that, I'm not gonna throw a fuss about it.
Bobbi, you continue to convince me that you are just an archi-alter ego here to provoke silly arguments. Or perhaps you're just a pathetic person.
Being a Jew doesn't always mean that you practice the religion of Judaism. It can also be about ethnicity. That's why you can have Jews for Jesus.
bobbi, get over it. wow, idiodic post. seriously, i have no problem saying happy easter or merry christmas. i celebrate those holidays.
i shouldn't feel guilty that i do.
1. i agree with superbeatledud..bobbi is just a provacateur...he/she
doesn't seem to add anything here...just hopes to start silly
arguments...i don't understand people that come on here just to see
if they can raise a fuss...but whatever.
2. i think the major difference between judaism and christianity is
fairly obvious. the old testament is part of the torah..but do they
have the new testament? jesus' death, for christians, is the
beginning of the 'new covenant' which wipes the slate clean as far
as sin goes...it puts to bed all of the sacrificing and rules of the
old testament...obviously not completely..but alot of the practices
of judaism are no longer necessary if you believe that christ wipes
away sin. major difference imo...christians believe in the trinity..
and jews believe jesus is a prophet (correct?), but not the son of god..
they're still waiting for the messiah. the major religions start more
or less from the same core and branch off into their own entities.
but i think they can qualify as being majorly different in their current
forms.
Jews definately don't believe that Jesus was a prophet. Muslims do though. All three Abrahamic religions are biblically intertwined but they all have major differences.
That doesn't mean people have the right to be intolerant towards people who follow certain religions. I think that psychological complexes that religious zealots spawn of higher distinction above all others is what causes the intolerence. And these are the extremist elements within those religious groups (i.e. infadels, goyim, and gentiles). And unfortunately that will continue for a long time. Religions don't kill people. People kill people. It's all about interpretations and representation.
archmed..
thanks..wasn't sure about that one..didn't really know where jesus
stood with jews. is there any significance from him coming from
the line of david? anyway thanks for the clarification.
i don't think anyone's saying that religious views give anyone
the right to be intolerant of other people..as far as i can tell.
larson, I was responding to apurumac because he was saying that when people think of religions as inherently different, it causes people to be intolerant of other peoples' religious views.
Glad I could clarify the Jesus thing.
im not even going to continue to argue this point, because frankly it feels like apples and oranges now.
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