i got my MIT rejection in the mail, but just before i did, i emailed annette horne-williams asking if it had been mailed out yet, and she wrote back saying yes and that i did not get in. i got the mail before the email so that is what i posted about, but if you are still waiting, just email her (contact on dept website) and you should find out soon.
Thought about it... don't really know if it is worth nudging my flight, though. I am trying to get back home (down south) so I can attend a couple of my studios before I have to leave again to go to Yale's open house on the 10th (which happens to be my birthday... hopefully I will make some friends who will celebrate with me!).
By the way, have you GSD guys received MULTIPLE calls from them? I certainly didn't think that Harvard needed to recruit this strongly, so I have been pleasantly surprised by their efforts. I used the opportunity to ask lots of pressing questions! :)
I haven't received calls as I live in Dubai, but I have definitely received multiple e-mails and juicy fedex packages! What pressing questions did you ask?
dietcoke, i am going to the NYC thing too. Are both of you in for MArch 1? I'll be on the MArch 1 AP course
i'd like to talk to you guys about yale and the gsd. i visited both schools recently and they are VASTLY different--sort of like microsoft and apple. didn't know because i came into this tabula rasa, but happy that the schools are not all the same. love to hear your thoughts...
change name: that's insane that you got a spot at Harvard and Yale and got waitlisted at UPenn and Columbia. I met a girl at Princeton that got rejected from Columbia too. I think it was because of that GRE cut off. but who knows. insane. lol.
harvard is like a factory, super clean, serious, students look plain jane. barely any models anywhere, a few renderings, a ton of books. lots of talk about history and legacy, breeding some of the finest talent in the world. students seem to be happy there, very engaged in their work. the location is okay, although harvard square is just plain boring--very manufactured, bunch of chains. i come from nyc, so maybe every town is like this.
yale was like entering the house of one of those pot-smoking artist visionaries. ping pong tables, physical models strewn about the building, beer posters and loads of graphic design, dressed more like new yorkers. much more visual. you can tell the students are so smart and creative. new haven is an absolute dump. the architecture department is on its own little island, stuck between residential housing and gas stations. they're renovating a new (?) architecture building that's attached to the regular campus and if classes were held there, i'd feel like I was at least a part of the school. the campus itself is, of course, beautiful.
haha, wow, that is exactly the opposite of my impression of the two schools. of course i'm dating one of those "plain jane" gsd students. surprised there weren't many models around when you visited, it's always seemed to me like a big part of the studio culture. very very few people there are drawing/drafting by hand after their first year though. i guess it all depends on who you talk to and what you're looking for. harvard square is definitely on the decline though, lots of local businesses have been pushed out in the last few years, making way for bertucci's/uno's/body shop/urban outfitters, etc. personally i think inman square is a lot more fun, and is walking distance from gsd, many better restaurants and bars.
yale is supposed to move back into their permanent building in the fall. it's a 1963 paul rudolph building being renovated by gwathmey siegel. the addition looks pretty heinous to me, but maybe it's just their renderings. regardless, architecture will be housed in the original building and art history will be in the addition. when i visited the studio spaces a few years ago they seemed really cramped, but hopefully that will be improved. ysoa students seem to feel a really strong affinity for the rudolph building and the ones i spoke to in november were already very anxious to move out of their temporary space. it's true that yale students are very tied in to the nyc scene, which was a negative for me. don't get me wrong, i love new york and hope to live there in a few years, but new haven....just ain't new york. and at an hour and forty five minutes away from the city, i found it a little off-putting that the school wants so badly to be a new york school that they haven't really invested in developing a culture of their own.
definitely worth it to try and visit both since different people will obviously come away with vastly different impressions.
concerning the comparison of YSOA to GSD, I 'm quite surprised as well there were not many physical models around at the latter...
I was under the impression that GSD is all about physical (and a bit old-fashioned) models. And perhaps YSOA was more into theory since they have the Perpsecta thing and all. But looking at last year's student work on their website I really wonder where they are headed.
I mean most schools have their own direction/style/whatever you want to call it that comes across quite clear. From what I gather is that GSAPP is all about concept, UPenn on the digital side, GSD about ModernismRevisited and Princeton...well, Princeton is too small a school to have a style of its own but probably somewhere between GSD and GSAPP. YSOA seems to be on a transitional phase and it has been striking me as a surprise for a couple of years to hear from people who got in Yale, because their work were not alike at all and completely irrelevant to anything that I see coming out of there.
Which brings me to the admissions issue again. Why would it be a surprise that somebody got in GSD+YSOA but not GSAPP or UPenn? I know that GSD supposedly receives hundreds of applications to make a class of about 50 people so obviously they absolutely have to be selective. But we don't really know what this 300+ applications are like. Would some of the applicant stand the chance anyway if the class at this school was bigger? What I mean to say is that judging a school's selectivity (or even quality of any kind) based on acceptance rates alone seems well...wrong, at least that's how I see it.
Of course GSAPP has a bigger class - at least for the post-prof degrees that I was applying to it does - but my impression is that schools more and more tend to admit people whose work seem to be in accordance with the school's direction. For example, GSAPP's and UPenn's direction are closer to each other than to the one of GSD, I think most people would agree on that point.
Having said that, I know 4 people who got into YSOA this year but not GSAPP. I only find it strange because they were all post-prof applicants and I think Yale has a miniscule class for MArchII, whereas Columbia something like 70+. I was also wondering about the MArchII class size at PennDesignn, does anybody know anything about that?
both school (GSD + YSOA) build lots of models. and as per the notion of school direction/style, I think most schools just want what they see as the best students...on a side note, It's the last day of March and GSD has not gotten back to me? Did anyone phone? Am I the last one waiting here?
exactly what I am saying, considering the fact that most people that apply to one Ivy will probably apply to the others the best students for GSD might not be the best for GSAPP or vice versa.
As for the admissions thing, if you are not outside the US and even with this year's inconsistency of GSD I find it a bit peculiar. Did you check with them, see if they received all your material in the first place? I recall getting some kind of email notification a couple of days after I send my portofolio to them. Oh, two emails actually; one of those embark-generated and a personal one from one of the administrators, which I found very nice considering the amount of work at their admission office...
Well ladies and gents, it looks like I'll be going to UMich starting June. I'll be submitting my letter of intent by the end of this week and get started on housing. Even though it wasn't initially my first choice, I'm extremely excited. Anyone else going?
jojo: I second your explanation of why some ppl get accepted to one school and not another. Admission rates have nothing to do with whether someone will get accepted or not... but, of course it is more competitive at a low-admission rate school.
In my case, I feel that my design work is very conceptually oriented. I was afraid that some of the more "conservative" schools (granted, this is a slippery term), would not bite on my port and application. Apparently I was right. And so far Columbia is the only school that has accepted me so far.
SkyCaptain: I'm still waiting buddy! I'm in Canada too (hint: we know each other) and I didn't get my GSD rejection either.... damn. I was lurking around the mailroom for nothing.
actually knowing why admissions committees reject or not your application is not so unnecessary. Kinda gives you a impression of what to expect. Just a speculation of mine of course :)
j2h: lol. why do i want to go to MIT? haha. it's actually really funny because for the past year now I had this intuition that i would end up at MIT....i'm waitlisted at Yale but somehow i feel like that is a dead end.
2008 M.Arch applicants, commiserate here!
@ _juut,
i got my MIT rejection in the mail, but just before i did, i emailed annette horne-williams asking if it had been mailed out yet, and she wrote back saying yes and that i did not get in. i got the mail before the email so that is what i posted about, but if you are still waiting, just email her (contact on dept website) and you should find out soon.
best of luck to you.
MIT or UPenn or Yale? boooo. haven't heard from gsd. annoying.
@skycaptain: tu as décidé, non? je pense...
My results, in order of appearance:
Yale - Yes
Harvard - Yes
Princeton - No
UPenn - Waitlist
Columbia - Waitlist
I figured I wouldn't get into Harvard or Yale, but that I (maybe) had a shot at the other ones. Goes to show you never can tell...
Anyone going to the GSD/Yale open houses? I'll be there.
Yup I'm going to the GSD open house. I'll be the girl with the curly black hair and freckles
I'll be the blonde girl making awkward jokes.
i'll be at the gsd one. are you guys going to the nyc thing too?
Thought about it... don't really know if it is worth nudging my flight, though. I am trying to get back home (down south) so I can attend a couple of my studios before I have to leave again to go to Yale's open house on the 10th (which happens to be my birthday... hopefully I will make some friends who will celebrate with me!).
By the way, have you GSD guys received MULTIPLE calls from them? I certainly didn't think that Harvard needed to recruit this strongly, so I have been pleasantly surprised by their efforts. I used the opportunity to ask lots of pressing questions! :)
Hope to meet some of you soon...
I haven't received calls as I live in Dubai, but I have definitely received multiple e-mails and juicy fedex packages! What pressing questions did you ask?
dietcoke, i am going to the NYC thing too. Are both of you in for MArch 1? I'll be on the MArch 1 AP course
gsd sucks
why?
i'd like to talk to you guys about yale and the gsd. i visited both schools recently and they are VASTLY different--sort of like microsoft and apple. didn't know because i came into this tabula rasa, but happy that the schools are not all the same. love to hear your thoughts...
lol, which is microsoft and which is apple?
Yeah, please go on DJ... I have been wondering what the big differences are.
PS I'm a mac girl, myself. ;)
nothing from GSD yet. should i call??? :S i'm scared they will yell at me.
change name: that's insane that you got a spot at Harvard and Yale and got waitlisted at UPenn and Columbia. I met a girl at Princeton that got rejected from Columbia too. I think it was because of that GRE cut off. but who knows. insane. lol.
is anyone here? boooo
anyone on the waitlist at GSD? anyone have any info / think there is any chance / think i can still go to the open house?
thanks / congrats to you all that got in
harvard is like a factory, super clean, serious, students look plain jane. barely any models anywhere, a few renderings, a ton of books. lots of talk about history and legacy, breeding some of the finest talent in the world. students seem to be happy there, very engaged in their work. the location is okay, although harvard square is just plain boring--very manufactured, bunch of chains. i come from nyc, so maybe every town is like this.
yale was like entering the house of one of those pot-smoking artist visionaries. ping pong tables, physical models strewn about the building, beer posters and loads of graphic design, dressed more like new yorkers. much more visual. you can tell the students are so smart and creative. new haven is an absolute dump. the architecture department is on its own little island, stuck between residential housing and gas stations. they're renovating a new (?) architecture building that's attached to the regular campus and if classes were held there, i'd feel like I was at least a part of the school. the campus itself is, of course, beautiful.
so imo, harvard=microsoft. yale=apple.
no irony in the fact that Gates dropped out of Hardvard?
hey pre-grads, i got some shop drawing redlines to transfer, any takers, i got to get back to poking you softies in the soft white underbellies...
haha, wow, that is exactly the opposite of my impression of the two schools. of course i'm dating one of those "plain jane" gsd students. surprised there weren't many models around when you visited, it's always seemed to me like a big part of the studio culture. very very few people there are drawing/drafting by hand after their first year though. i guess it all depends on who you talk to and what you're looking for. harvard square is definitely on the decline though, lots of local businesses have been pushed out in the last few years, making way for bertucci's/uno's/body shop/urban outfitters, etc. personally i think inman square is a lot more fun, and is walking distance from gsd, many better restaurants and bars.
yale is supposed to move back into their permanent building in the fall. it's a 1963 paul rudolph building being renovated by gwathmey siegel. the addition looks pretty heinous to me, but maybe it's just their renderings. regardless, architecture will be housed in the original building and art history will be in the addition. when i visited the studio spaces a few years ago they seemed really cramped, but hopefully that will be improved. ysoa students seem to feel a really strong affinity for the rudolph building and the ones i spoke to in november were already very anxious to move out of their temporary space. it's true that yale students are very tied in to the nyc scene, which was a negative for me. don't get me wrong, i love new york and hope to live there in a few years, but new haven....just ain't new york. and at an hour and forty five minutes away from the city, i found it a little off-putting that the school wants so badly to be a new york school that they haven't really invested in developing a culture of their own.
definitely worth it to try and visit both since different people will obviously come away with vastly different impressions.
@ Lebanessy... I am the MArch1 track. See you there!
FF33 and witty are you guys going to the UCLA open house?
has anyone heard from SCIARC?
someone said they mail a batch of decision last week..
did anyone receive that?
hellloooooooo.... so where did Columbia post there results?
their*
moca, I'll be there...:-) email me
on your online account...on the bottom of the page in bold face.
ff33..im actually not going..
too many deadlines at work.
but have fun! =)
where are you from?
hmmm no up yet i guess..... hope thats not a bad thing.
not*
geez.... not my day today
moca
I emailed you.
concerning the comparison of YSOA to GSD, I 'm quite surprised as well there were not many physical models around at the latter...
I was under the impression that GSD is all about physical (and a bit old-fashioned) models. And perhaps YSOA was more into theory since they have the Perpsecta thing and all. But looking at last year's student work on their website I really wonder where they are headed.
I mean most schools have their own direction/style/whatever you want to call it that comes across quite clear. From what I gather is that GSAPP is all about concept, UPenn on the digital side, GSD about ModernismRevisited and Princeton...well, Princeton is too small a school to have a style of its own but probably somewhere between GSD and GSAPP. YSOA seems to be on a transitional phase and it has been striking me as a surprise for a couple of years to hear from people who got in Yale, because their work were not alike at all and completely irrelevant to anything that I see coming out of there.
Which brings me to the admissions issue again. Why would it be a surprise that somebody got in GSD+YSOA but not GSAPP or UPenn? I know that GSD supposedly receives hundreds of applications to make a class of about 50 people so obviously they absolutely have to be selective. But we don't really know what this 300+ applications are like. Would some of the applicant stand the chance anyway if the class at this school was bigger? What I mean to say is that judging a school's selectivity (or even quality of any kind) based on acceptance rates alone seems well...wrong, at least that's how I see it.
Of course GSAPP has a bigger class - at least for the post-prof degrees that I was applying to it does - but my impression is that schools more and more tend to admit people whose work seem to be in accordance with the school's direction. For example, GSAPP's and UPenn's direction are closer to each other than to the one of GSD, I think most people would agree on that point.
Having said that, I know 4 people who got into YSOA this year but not GSAPP. I only find it strange because they were all post-prof applicants and I think Yale has a miniscule class for MArchII, whereas Columbia something like 70+. I was also wondering about the MArchII class size at PennDesignn, does anybody know anything about that?
both school (GSD + YSOA) build lots of models. and as per the notion of school direction/style, I think most schools just want what they see as the best students...on a side note, It's the last day of March and GSD has not gotten back to me? Did anyone phone? Am I the last one waiting here?
exactly what I am saying, considering the fact that most people that apply to one Ivy will probably apply to the others the best students for GSD might not be the best for GSAPP or vice versa.
As for the admissions thing, if you are not outside the US and even with this year's inconsistency of GSD I find it a bit peculiar. Did you check with them, see if they received all your material in the first place? I recall getting some kind of email notification a couple of days after I send my portofolio to them. Oh, two emails actually; one of those embark-generated and a personal one from one of the administrators, which I found very nice considering the amount of work at their admission office...
Well ladies and gents, it looks like I'll be going to UMich starting June. I'll be submitting my letter of intent by the end of this week and get started on housing. Even though it wasn't initially my first choice, I'm extremely excited. Anyone else going?
you guys spent waaay too much time speculating the unecessary.
jojo: I second your explanation of why some ppl get accepted to one school and not another. Admission rates have nothing to do with whether someone will get accepted or not... but, of course it is more competitive at a low-admission rate school.
In my case, I feel that my design work is very conceptually oriented. I was afraid that some of the more "conservative" schools (granted, this is a slippery term), would not bite on my port and application. Apparently I was right. And so far Columbia is the only school that has accepted me so far.
SkyCaptain: I'm still waiting buddy! I'm in Canada too (hint: we know each other) and I didn't get my GSD rejection either.... damn. I was lurking around the mailroom for nothing.
actually knowing why admissions committees reject or not your application is not so unnecessary. Kinda gives you a impression of what to expect. Just a speculation of mine of course :)
...it's a mechanism for convincing ourselves that we got into the right place! ;-)
well, I actually had to choose among a couple of those besides the one I am going to so I hope I made the right decision...
Oh don't worry skycap...you know you want to go to MIT anyways :)
ANY WORD ABOUT RICE OR SCI-ARC? WHEN ARE THEY GONNA SEND OUT ACCEPTANCES?
yeah - and how about you people accepted to u cinn? how many of you are actually going?
i was accepted to cincinnati, but I am not going
non-arch background? i know you prob mentioned this a while back...
yes, non-arch
j2h: lol. why do i want to go to MIT? haha. it's actually really funny because for the past year now I had this intuition that i would end up at MIT....i'm waitlisted at Yale but somehow i feel like that is a dead end.
laurilan are you going to u of cincy?
haven't heard from them yet... not looking so good.
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