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Katze

You too funny! Well, you send me an email when you are on a plane :)

Nov 4, 06 3:55 am  · 
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garpike

Yes on 87!!!

Nov 4, 06 3:57 am  · 
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Katze

dido!

Nov 4, 06 4:06 am  · 
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garpike

555-HOTT is a waste of time. All it says is 'yes on 87'.

Maybe you should pay attention. Yes on 87!!!

Nov 4, 06 4:34 am  · 
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Mulholland Drive

Insulting Our Troops, and Our Intelligence

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: November 3, 2006

George Bush, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld think you’re stupid. Yes, they do.

They think they can take a mangled quip about President Bush and Iraq by John Kerry — a man who is not even running for office but who, unlike Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, never ran away from combat service — and get you to vote against all Democrats in this election.

Every time you hear Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney lash out against Mr. Kerry, I hope you will say to yourself, “They must think I’m stupid.” Because they surely do.

They think that they can get you to overlook all of the Bush team’s real and deadly insults to the U.S. military over the past six years by hyping and exaggerating Mr. Kerry’s mangled gibe at the president.

What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to the U.S. military than to send it into combat in Iraq without enough men — to launch an invasion of a foreign country not by the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force, but by the Rumsfeld Doctrine of just enough troops to lose? What could be a bigger insult than that?

What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in uniform than sending them off to war without the proper equipment, so that some soldiers in the field were left to buy their own body armor and to retrofit their own jeeps with scrap metal so that roadside bombs in Iraq would only maim them for life and not kill them? And what could be more injurious and insulting than Don Rumsfeld’s response to criticism that he sent our troops off in haste and unprepared: Hey, you go to war with the army you’ve got — get over it.

What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in uniform than to send them off to war in Iraq without any coherent postwar plan for political reconstruction there, so that the U.S. military has had to assume not only security responsibilities for all of Iraq but the political rebuilding as well? The Bush team has created a veritable library of military histories — from “Cobra II” to “Fiasco” to “State of Denial” — all of which contain the same damning conclusion offered by the very soldiers and officers who fought this war: This administration never had a plan for the morning after, and we’ve been making it up — and paying the price — ever since.

And what could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in Iraq than to send them off to war and then go out and finance the very people they’re fighting against with our gluttonous consumption of oil? Sure, George Bush told us we’re addicted to oil, but he has not done one single significant thing — demanded higher mileage standards from Detroit, imposed a gasoline tax or even used the bully pulpit of the White House to drive conservation — to end that addiction. So we continue to finance the U.S. military with our tax dollars, while we finance Iran, Syria, Wahhabi mosques and Al Qaeda madrassas with our energy purchases.

Everyone says that Karl Rove is a genius. Yeah, right. So are cigarette companies. They get you to buy cigarettes even though we know they cause cancer. That is the kind of genius Karl Rove is. He is not a man who has designed a strategy to reunite our country around an agenda of renewal for the 21st century — to bring out the best in us. His “genius” is taking some irrelevant aside by John Kerry and twisting it to bring out the worst in us, so you will ignore the mess that the Bush team has visited on this country.

And Karl Rove has succeeded at that in the past because he was sure that he could sell just enough Bush cigarettes, even though people knew they caused cancer. Please, please, for our country’s health, prove him wrong this time.

Let Karl know that you’re not stupid. Let him know that you know that the most patriotic thing to do in this election is to vote against an administration that has — through sheer incompetence — brought us to a point in Iraq that was not inevitable but is now unwinnable.

Let Karl know that you think this is a critical election, because you know as a citizen that if the Bush team can behave with the level of deadly incompetence it has exhibited in Iraq — and then get away with it by holding on to the House and the Senate — it means our country has become a banana republic. It means our democracy is in tatters because it is so gerrymandered, so polluted by money, and so divided by professional political hacks that we can no longer hold the ruling party to account.

It means we’re as stupid as Karl thinks we are.

I, for one, don’t think we’re that stupid. Next Tuesday we’ll see.

Nov 4, 06 11:05 am  · 
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crowbert

I'm pushing this thread back to the top - don't forget to vote guys!

Also. if you see any "funny business" happening in or around your polling place, you should report it to The National Campaign for Fair Elections. You can call 1-866-OUR-VOTE (toll free) or go to. It doesn't matter who is the one trying to do the wool-pulling, lets keep this thing above board (as much as possible, anyway).

Thanks & don't forget to vote!

crow

ps Zombie Nixon for dogcatcher '08!

Nov 7, 06 11:26 am  · 
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crowbert

I'm pushing this thread back to the top - don't forget to vote guys!

Also. if you see any "funny business" happening in or around your polling place, you should report it to The National Campaign for Fair Elections. You can call 1-866-OUR-VOTE (toll free) or go to. It doesn't matter who is the one trying to do the wool-pulling, lets keep this thing above board (as much as possible, anyway).

Thanks & don't forget to vote!

crow

ps Zombie Nixon for dogcatcher '08!

Nov 7, 06 11:27 am  · 
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liberty bell

Thanks crowbert - I need to get over to my polling place quick, as my day is getting pretty full...thanks for the reminder.

Steven, did you take care of business this morning? Good.

Nov 7, 06 11:33 am  · 
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strlt_typ

this is gonna be my first time voting since i got my american citizenship...i'm lagging a little bit on reading all the california propositions...

i can already feel that voting is going to make me feel like a responsible adult...

Nov 7, 06 11:33 am  · 
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Living in Gin

Okay, I registered to vote several months ago. I checked the city's website last night to confirm that I am, indeed, registered to vote in the City of Chicago.

I went to the polling place this morning, and had to repeat my name and addres to some senile, brain-dead election judge about a dozen times before she finally reached the conclusion that I was not listed on the registration rolls for my precinct.

I stood there for about the next 20 minutes while she consulted with the other brain-dead election judges as to what to do. I made it clear that I wasn't leaving until I've been given the opportunity to vote.

Meanwhile, about every other voter there was either being asked to produce ID, or experiencing problems with the optical scanning machines.

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, it was decided that I would cast a provisional ballot on the touch-screen machine. The judges then spent the next 15 minutes reading the manual to learn how one is supposed to A) cast a provisional ballot, and B) how to operate the touch-screen machine.

Finally, I was given a card and allowed to vote. The touch-screen machine was fairly simple to operate. (By the grace of God, it wasn't a Diebold machine, and there was a paper printout that I was able to verify before I cast my ballot.)

Back to the table, and more wailing and gnashing of teeth as I turn in the card, the judges try to figure out what to do with it, and how to write in my name on the registration roll.

After about an hour spent at the polling place, I was finally on my way.

Moral of the story: I'm a registered Democrat and I'm trying to vote in Chicago. If I'm having this much trouble casting a ballot, then God help us.

Nov 7, 06 11:47 am  · 
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liberty bell

dammson, this is so sappy of me, but the thought of you casting your first vote as a new-by-choice American citizen makes my eyes well up! Congratulations!!

Nov 7, 06 11:53 am  · 
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A

Gin, you were having trouble voting in Chicago because the dead people have to vote first, then you get to vote later. Not sure there is a more corrupt city when it comes to voting.

Nov 7, 06 12:10 pm  · 
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Living in Gin

Columbus, Ohio?

Nov 7, 06 12:33 pm  · 
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myriam

crazy, Gin!

I'm sad today because I screwed up by moving, and now I can't vote. (Missed the absentee ballot deadline before I decided to move, and now I'm not there to vote.)

So, somebody please, who wasn't planning on voting, just go vote for me...

Also, I had an idea the other night similar to something puddles described on here way back on page 1--there should be a mandatory minimum turnout under which the election is invalid. I mean if we all get so sick of all the ads that just point fingers instead of describing positions and issues, and we all decide to just boycott the election en masse, that should HELP our cause, not hurt it! There should be a way of saying, essentially, ENOUGH americans need to vote for someone in order for it to count. Right now, if only 11 people showed up in a precinct to vote, the candidates would still be placed into office--with theoretically as low as like 3 people backing them. That's pretty screwed up!

Nov 7, 06 12:36 pm  · 
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mdler

went to vote in Pasadena, CA today. Filled out my ballot. The machine that is supposed to read the ballots wasn't working... guy took my ballot and put it in a box (I assume)

time to report voter fraud

Nov 7, 06 12:40 pm  · 
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tinydancer

Gin-I had a simliar problem here in Texas-I have a TX drivers license, tags on my car and own a home in Texas under my name-and are registered to vote-but I went this morning and they didn't have my name on the sheet-they had to call around for a while and found out that last year I was sent a jury summons-I responded that I could not go because I was in school out of state. So they took me off the registration as a voter-EVEN THOUGH-I have not ever changed my residency! I went to school for a year out of state, but maintained my Texas residency.
So I too had to do the provisional vote-and they too couldn't figure out what I was supposed to do-and I don't know how it is there, but they said in Texas they will send it in and it will be reviewed and they will decide if they will accept my vote...WHO will decide???? And what do they have to decide???? I am registered to vote in Texas, I have a TX driver's lic, and my car is registered here-I voted in the last election-nothing has changed!!! And, yes, I am a democrat.
Ugh!!!!!!

Nov 7, 06 1:24 pm  · 
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AP

congrats dammson!

...damn Gin, that's nuts.


I'm home for lunch after voting.

precinct 14Z
poll location: Riverside Presbyaterian Apartments

I walked into a room adjacent to the apartment lobby. To my right, a plastic folding table with 4 pieces of paper taped to the front edge of the table (A-G, H-N, O-T, U-Z, or something like that), 4 elderly women seated behind. I hand O-T my driver's license, she finds my name and has me sign next to it (I called the county election office from work to find out where my precinct was 'cause I lost my voter registration card). She then asked if I wanted to vote electronically or with a ballot. I wasn't expecting the question. After considering it for a moment, i asked for the paper ballot. U-Z nodded in agreement as O-T handed me my ballot and directed me to the voting booths. Vote. Feed ballot into machine. Get a sticker.

Nov 7, 06 1:28 pm  · 
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treekiller

got sticker, now thinking 'bout volunteering for a few hours to do a little more for our democracy...

Nov 7, 06 1:50 pm  · 
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snooker

Wondering why Voting Booths and the old time machines never fell under the ADA ( American Disablity Act). Maybe they get around it with absentee ballots, but what happens when someone shows up and wants to use a real voting machine.

Nov 7, 06 3:22 pm  · 
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liberty bell

Dammit, I want a sticker!!!

Indy voting was so old school - at least in Philly they had machines with levers, you went and stood in it and pulled a little curtain closed, so all that could be seen of you was your legs. (This led to hilarity the year my husband and the husband up the street went in to vote at the same time, both with four-month-old babies strapped to their chests, and from the outside you saw two pairs of jean-clad men's lags bopping up and down in baby-soothing rhythm as they voted!)

Here we had a paper ballot, filled it out with ballpoint ink behind a tri-fold cardboard screen, and fed it into a little machine. One of the tri-fold cardboards was set up on a short table - the ADA "booth" obviously.

So I did my democratic duty, in more ways than one, today.

Nov 7, 06 3:29 pm  · 
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mdler

EVERYONE CLOSE YOUR EYES AND RAISE YOU HAND IF YOU WANT...

Nov 7, 06 3:43 pm  · 
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e

voted on sunday. our ballot was so long this year that it required an xtra stamp to mail.

Nov 7, 06 4:34 pm  · 
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snooker

Yup the job is done: I encountered what I thought was a unique situation when I went to the polls. Got in line with the Senior Citizen Crowd voting in the early morning. Find the right line to get into which
is somehow arranged by geographic street sequence. I clearly tell the, senile braindead election judge, my street address and street name. Her comeback line is there is no Ticondaroga Street, inwhich
I give her a blank look and say I don't live on Ticondaroga Street, I live on such and such street and....yup it is there and I get to vote.
Only thing was I had a real hard time trying to find Joe Liberman cause he is running as an independent, and they stuck him clear at the very bottom of the machine. Truthfully, I didn't vote for him, just wanted to see where he was located on the ballot. I'm sure there were alot of people who couldn't find him even though they wanted to vote for him. I say this because the lady ahead of me took about 10 minutes to vote and I'm sure it was because she couldn't find JOE!

Nov 7, 06 5:01 pm  · 
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garpike

I voted absentee style, but that didn't stop me from laughing at the cartoon on The Daily Show last night.

Nov 7, 06 5:24 pm  · 
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Ms Beary

took me 2.5 hours to vote, but I did it.

Nov 7, 06 6:29 pm  · 
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silverlake

Dem. govenor took Ohio - first time since '86. Nice!!

Nov 7, 06 8:30 pm  · 
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Living in Gin

NY Times is reporting that three GOP seats in the Senate have been won by Democrats so far.

The Webb/Alan race in Virginia still looks like a dead heat... I suspect that one will end up in the courts.

Nov 7, 06 10:28 pm  · 
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Living in Gin

And I'm glad to see that Blackwell in Ohio (oversaw 2004 election fiasco) and Kathleen Harris in Florida (oversaw 2000 election fiasco) have both had their asses handed to them at the polls.

Nov 7, 06 10:31 pm  · 
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weAREtheSTONES

yes on 87
- can someone tell me why the political parties are listed next to each candidate on the ballot
-doesnt the constitution say that.......actually not say anything about a candidate having an affiliation with a political party.
-and doesnt law state that no candidate can advertize within a certain distance from a polling station.
-in conclusion - wouldnt it be advertizing by listing the candidates political party next to his/her name right on the freakin ballot?

-most of you might say that we need the political party on the ballot b/c then we wont remember the names we wish to vote for...i just vote all democrat so i need the political party on there.

Nov 7, 06 11:34 pm  · 
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weAREtheSTONES

WTF?????????

Nov 7, 06 11:35 pm  · 
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Ms Beary

stones, i have voted where you had the option to vote "straight ticket", checking only one box to vote, the one for your party. a lot of people that did that.

Nov 8, 06 12:48 am  · 
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Apurimac

Dems have retaken the house it seems, hope they don't screw us as hard as the GOP has these last 6 years. I'll personally assassinate Nacy Pelosi if they do, and take my sweet time doing it to... Just kidding! Take it easy FBI, I know hunting terrorists is mighty hard!

Still not feeling very hopeful of the future though...

Nov 8, 06 2:54 am  · 
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oe

"i am voting straight socialist..."

We got one for you vado..



Ah, we vermonters love that commie little troll of ours :)

Nov 8, 06 4:30 am  · 
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Living in Gin

Overall I'm pleased with the results, although I'd be happier if the Senate were more decisive in the Dem's favor. George "Macaca" Allen is a right-wing jackass who needs to be sent packing.

One disappointment is Tammy Duckworth's loss here in Illinois... Her GOP opponent flooded the airwaves with disgusting smear ads that basically said Duckworth wants to raise your taxes, give your job to an illegal immigrant, and eat your puppies. I guess I should be impressed that Duckworth did as well as she did, though, given that that district is a GOP bastion that includes most of DuPage County and the Jesus freak stronghold of Wheaton.

Nov 8, 06 7:35 am  · 
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larslarson

does it disturb anyone else that the shading falls on the wrong
side of the hand of that graphic of sanders? the face and hand
are lit from two different directions. maybe it's just me.

Nov 8, 06 9:23 am  · 
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it's a hidden message, lars. don't you get it?

Nov 8, 06 9:28 am  · 
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larslarson

well i see the silhouette of vermont is his arm..is there more?
i just liked the graphic of the face and when i saw the hand
something felt off...

Nov 8, 06 9:42 am  · 
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crowbert

Thanks for voting everyone, especially dammson & strawbeary!

Nov 8, 06 11:44 am  · 
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kyll

i didnt vote.

i felt, after reviewing both candidates, that it was somewhat like policing a fight between two intermediate school cheerleaders fighting about who's more popular. round these parts, anyway...

both smear campaigns. very few messages about what they'd do different in the seat.

when a candidate comes by that says what he/she will do and only what he/she'll do in office, and not the he/she said, stole, cajoled, trafficked, prostituted bullsh*t about the other candidate, then i'll vote.

otherwise, i'll let the dramatic soap opera fanatics embellish themselves with what candidate broke bread with a reputed mobster at a denny's 4 yrs ago.

Nov 8, 06 12:18 pm  · 
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snooker

Damn....I'm starting to believe JOE pulled off the impossible....he could have been Vice President, but he passed it up by loosing to Bush along with his buddy Kerry. However there seems to be a turn of the table, now every vote JOE cast as an independent will carry alot of power. This is a guy who has been dissed by the Democrats at least in his home state. Republicans carried him to his seat. So now both parties are an equal with him and he says he will represent Connecticut , so it will be interesting if he listens and votes what is best for Connecticut and the Country. Hopefully he doesn't falter, and were back here when he comes up for election again and were saying,
"NO MORE JOE'

Nov 8, 06 11:05 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

lb, thanks...it's mutual...and i got my sticker...

AP, thanks...

crowbert, welcome...

i'm gonna step up the research and go in deeper next time around...i'm late in the game...

Nov 8, 06 11:40 pm  · 
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ochona

i voted, much to the despair of many of you. but as we all now know, my vote didn't do much harm this time.

no, i tend to split my tickets pretty well. i'll admit, i'm pleased about the result nationally. the republicans of the last six years are not the lincoln-and-roosevelt republicans i always admired, that's for sure. what pleased me is that rahm emanuel put about 20 conservative democrats in office, and we needed the center back in power, no matter what party they are in.

unfortunately some of the wrong republicans lost. i'd like to have kept chafee, for instance. i would have traded lincoln chafee for trent lott.

Nov 8, 06 11:43 pm  · 
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treekiller

The AIA is turning into a political party! From their most recent email to their hypnotized zombie practitioners:

IA Members Win Elections!

Sen. Eric Johnson, FAIA, to Georgia Senate District 1

Minnesota Rep. Matt Dean, AIA,

Sen. Sam Joe Queen, AIA, to North Carolina Senate District 47

Rep. Matt Dean, AIA, to Minnesota House District 52B

Rep. Chris Widener, FAIA, to Ohio House District 84

Stephen Sandstrom, AIA, 58th Utah House district

James “Jim” B. Boggs, AIA, to the Del Mar Community College (TX) Board of Regents

Joyce Raspa-Gore, AIA, Esq., to the Leonia (NJ) City Council, New Jersey

Bruce Tyler, AIA, to the Richmond (VA) City Council.

Nov 9, 06 7:59 pm  · 
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this means:

a- we might have better representation as a profession.

b- other architects are feeling as hopeless as me and looking for a different direction to take their careers.

Nov 10, 06 7:47 am  · 
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