Regarding the conclusion... Hooray for modern architecture!
Now I recognize that Dan Brown wrote / Opey directed / Tom Hanks depicted a piece of historical fiction, but I found it beautiful (okay, maybe slightly too strong of a word) that the storyline incorporated modern architecture seemlessly in the fold of the larger storyline. I know it is fiction, and I know it was used as a device to punctuate the story, BUT, is there such a roseline crossing across the Louvre yard? (I've never been.)
the movie is worse than the book, if you've read the book then there's really no point watching the movie as you already know what's going to happen and tom hanks is a terrible actor.
I didnt see the movie yet, but in the book it says that I.M used 666 pieces of glass in the pyramid.. so my next trip to France will be sure to count it..
this does raise a question in my mind, though. Are there any notable architects known to have been freemasons/skull & bones/etc.? And if so, how did that influence what they did?
Horrible film.....so many people are going to see this movie, and yet the production and direction were so predictable and prosaic. They could have chosen a more progressive director to actually interpret this story in a controversial way and direct it as such as a means to doing something cool. Any idiot who has seen Mission Impossible II could have directed this.
I could have been much darker, a la Chistopher Nolan. Or I'd Michel Gondry take a shot at most anything.
Are there any notable architects known to have been freemasons/skull & bones/etc.?
I know Christopher Wren and Benjamin Latrobe both were. Edmund Burke was, and Ruskin and Viollet le Duc both pretended to be. Its all tied into the whole arts-and-crafts/gothic revival thing, and the early-socialist basis in the medieval guild structure. Same thing with Horta and the Art Nouveau. Come to think of it so were Ford and Crysler and half of that era's industrialists, so in some small way it fed Art Deco and the whole automotive/industrial urbanism in the US.
Supposedly, Mitterrand was the one who asked Pei to use 666 panes of glass on the pyramide (not true...but its SO hard to count the panes from photos).
About architects who are "connected" - read a bit of Hawksmoor - a book about Hawksmoor (yeah,really)- where he is revealed as a satanist, building his work for the greater glory of the devil and mocking chris wren in the process. It's a bit foggy, though, read a few bits when I was 16-17 (a long time ago).
The awesome AlanMoore comic- "in Hell" about jack the ripper has an amazing amount of architectural detail - the occult kind.
as well as Eco's Foucault's pendulum - my own and only favourite conspiracy book.
In terms of music giving any kind of reference to architecture and occult. there's the opening lyrics of the song "jesus built my hotrod" by Ministry.
>>Soon i discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry lee lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden, i found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that i could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long....<<
you guys forgot abt the greatest known freemason architect,none other than Frank Lloyd wright .
well frankly it's not been conclusively proved or discovered but he had many freemason friends including the lesser known english architect C.R Ashbee so there was definitely some connection.
My favorite architect, occult or otherwise, is Ivo Shandor:
STANTZ
The ironwork extends down through fifty
feet of bedrock and touches the water
table!
He looks at Venkman who doesn't see the significance.
VENKMAN
(shrugs)
I guess they don't build them like they
used to, huh?
STANTZ
No! Nobody ever built them like this!
The architect was either an authentic
whacko or a certified genius. The whole
building is like a huge antenna for
pulling in and concentrating
psychokinetic energy.
VENKMAN
Who was the architect?
STANTZ
He's listed on the blueprints as I.
Shandor.
SPENGLER
(exclaims)
Of course!
(the others turn and look at
him)
IVO SHANDOR, I saw his name in Tobin's
Spirit Guide. He started a secret
society in 1920.
VENKMAN
(putting it all together)
Let me guess -- Gozer Worshippers.
SPENGLER
Yes. After the First World War Shandor
decided that society was too sick to
survive. And he wasn't alone. He had
close to a thousand followers when he
died. They conducted rituals, bizarre
rituals, intended to bring about the
end of the world, and now it looks like
it may actually happen.
returning to the issue on the top, from wikipedia:
Dan Brown was not the first writer to offer esoteric interpretations of the Inverted Pyramid, though it is unclear whether he came up with this idea independently or was influenced by others.
According to I. M. Pei's biographer Carter Wiseman, he is interested almost solely in abstract geometrical forms, which if true would mean that the Inverted Pyramid has no other meaning or purpose than to function as a light-well in the underground shopping area where it is suspended.
You guys want to know what the code 666 really means (according to some anti-technology cult)... Something somebody showed me in college...
In the bible, if you read the book of revelations, it says someplace, something like "the beast (i.e. the devil) had its name written on its forhead, and for those of you who can decipher this code, its name spells '666'." No kidding, after he told me this I looked it up, check the book of revelations, it says this someplace...
Anyway, so if you write out the letters of the roman alphabet, and assign a multiple of 6 to it, so, A - 6, B - 12, C - 18, D - 24, etc. and you add up all of the letters in "COMPUTER", the sum is 666.
I thought that the ending was pretty evident after the first 20 minutes of the movie ... of course .. i never expected the twist in "one" of the characters roles.... ( dont want to ruin the movie for those who have not watched it )
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Regarding the conclusion... Hooray for modern architecture!
Now I recognize that Dan Brown wrote / Opey directed / Tom Hanks depicted a piece of historical fiction, but I found it beautiful (okay, maybe slightly too strong of a word) that the storyline incorporated modern architecture seemlessly in the fold of the larger storyline. I know it is fiction, and I know it was used as a device to punctuate the story, BUT, is there such a roseline crossing across the Louvre yard? (I've never been.)
If only I.M. Pei had been that aware...
wow i never realized that i.m.pei had a secret agenda to design a phalus and a womb intersecting, shining underneith the stars
maybe he's a priory grandmaster!
Hey yeah, thanks for answering the question. That helps.
Is the flick as lame as the book??
the movie is worse than the book, if you've read the book then there's really no point watching the movie as you already know what's going to happen and tom hanks is a terrible actor.
add to that the fact that book was written like a film script in the first place...
add to the fact that no one could celebrate my birthday because they were all too busy going to see the da vinci code.
i liked angels & demons better than the da vinci code.
they're all so cheezy though...a fun read on the train in the mornings.
this movie is terrible. it was kind of interesting for a little while but then pretty cheesy
I didn't read the book, but I think I could see where the book chapters ended in the movie...
I didnt see the movie yet, but in the book it says that I.M used 666 pieces of glass in the pyramid.. so my next trip to France will be sure to count it..
this does raise a question in my mind, though. Are there any notable architects known to have been freemasons/skull & bones/etc.? And if so, how did that influence what they did?
they built more secret rooms and trap doors.
A few Todays ago Matt Lauer told me that the 666 number is spurious. It's actually some 700+.
Victor Horta was a freemason, it influenced the kind of jobs he could get.
Pat Robertson said that there is 673 panes of glass. I guess Pei did not get the memo from Opus Dei.
Horrible film.....so many people are going to see this movie, and yet the production and direction were so predictable and prosaic. They could have chosen a more progressive director to actually interpret this story in a controversial way and direct it as such as a means to doing something cool. Any idiot who has seen Mission Impossible II could have directed this.
I could have been much darker, a la Chistopher Nolan. Or I'd Michel Gondry take a shot at most anything.
I will say though, Audrey Tautou is smokin hot.
I know Christopher Wren and Benjamin Latrobe both were. Edmund Burke was, and Ruskin and Viollet le Duc both pretended to be. Its all tied into the whole arts-and-crafts/gothic revival thing, and the early-socialist basis in the medieval guild structure. Same thing with Horta and the Art Nouveau. Come to think of it so were Ford and Crysler and half of that era's industrialists, so in some small way it fed Art Deco and the whole automotive/industrial urbanism in the US.
Supposedly, Mitterrand was the one who asked Pei to use 666 panes of glass on the pyramide (not true...but its SO hard to count the panes from photos).
MITTERRAND!
The best line of the movie ...
Tom Hanks: We need to get to a library as soon as possible
maybe it is 666 panes of of glass in the pyramid, some of them are just cut in half, which is why it counts as more...
On a related note, June 6 2006 is right around the corner...
Coinsiding with the realease of The Omen 666.
Nostradamus prediction in the C16 is that we are doomed...
About architects who are "connected" - read a bit of Hawksmoor - a book about Hawksmoor (yeah,really)- where he is revealed as a satanist, building his work for the greater glory of the devil and mocking chris wren in the process. It's a bit foggy, though, read a few bits when I was 16-17 (a long time ago).
The awesome AlanMoore comic- "in Hell" about jack the ripper has an amazing amount of architectural detail - the occult kind.
as well as Eco's Foucault's pendulum - my own and only favourite conspiracy book.
In terms of music giving any kind of reference to architecture and occult. there's the opening lyrics of the song "jesus built my hotrod" by Ministry.
>>Soon i discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry lee lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden, i found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that i could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long....<<
anyone knows any other examples ?
you guys forgot abt the greatest known freemason architect,none other than Frank Lloyd wright .
well frankly it's not been conclusively proved or discovered but he had many freemason friends including the lesser known english architect C.R Ashbee so there was definitely some connection.
yo come to think of it 666 isnt even divisible by 4, how did anyone ever buy that?
da bears...
666 is not a mark of the devil it is the year of the great plague in europe 1666. people forgot.
My favorite architect, occult or otherwise, is Ivo Shandor:
STANTZ
The ironwork extends down through fifty
feet of bedrock and touches the water
table!
He looks at Venkman who doesn't see the significance.
VENKMAN
(shrugs)
I guess they don't build them like they
used to, huh?
STANTZ
No! Nobody ever built them like this!
The architect was either an authentic
whacko or a certified genius. The whole
building is like a huge antenna for
pulling in and concentrating
psychokinetic energy.
VENKMAN
Who was the architect?
STANTZ
He's listed on the blueprints as I.
Shandor.
SPENGLER
(exclaims)
Of course!
(the others turn and look at
him)
IVO SHANDOR, I saw his name in Tobin's
Spirit Guide. He started a secret
society in 1920.
VENKMAN
(putting it all together)
Let me guess -- Gozer Worshippers.
SPENGLER
Yes. After the First World War Shandor
decided that society was too sick to
survive. And he wasn't alone. He had
close to a thousand followers when he
died. They conducted rituals, bizarre
rituals, intended to bring about the
end of the world, and now it looks like
it may actually happen.
returning to the issue on the top, from wikipedia:
Dan Brown was not the first writer to offer esoteric interpretations of the Inverted Pyramid, though it is unclear whether he came up with this idea independently or was influenced by others.
In Raphäel Aurillac's work Le guide du Paris maçonnique the author declares that the Louvre used to be a Masonic temple (a notion conventional historians would dismiss). To Aurillac, the various glass pyramids constructed in recent decades include Masonic symbolism. As for the Inverted Pyramid, Aurillac notes that it lies on the so-called Paris Meridian (the "Rose Line" of The Da Vinci Code), to which a deeper, esoteric significance is sometimes ascribed (in fact, the Rose Line passes through the Louvre itself, and misses the Pyramid by a few hundred yards). Aurillac sees the downward-pointing pyramid as expressing the Rosicrucian motto "Visit the interior of the earth and…you will find the secret stone" (VITRIOL). Interestingly, the Holy Grail is described as a stone in some traditions, though Dan Brown preferred a radically different interpretation of its true nature. Another writer on Masonic architecture, Dominique Stezepfandt, sees the two pyramids as suggesting "the compass and square that together form the Seal of Solomon" (quoted in Code Da Vinci: L'enquête by Marie-France Etchegoin and Frédéric Lenoir).
According to I. M. Pei's biographer Carter Wiseman, he is interested almost solely in abstract geometrical forms, which if true would mean that the Inverted Pyramid has no other meaning or purpose than to function as a light-well in the underground shopping area where it is suspended.
You guys want to know what the code 666 really means (according to some anti-technology cult)... Something somebody showed me in college...
In the bible, if you read the book of revelations, it says someplace, something like "the beast (i.e. the devil) had its name written on its forhead, and for those of you who can decipher this code, its name spells '666'." No kidding, after he told me this I looked it up, check the book of revelations, it says this someplace...
Anyway, so if you write out the letters of the roman alphabet, and assign a multiple of 6 to it, so, A - 6, B - 12, C - 18, D - 24, etc. and you add up all of the letters in "COMPUTER", the sum is 666.
ooooooo....
"blade" and "chalice" chelsea flower show 2006 - that is evil
nope, i got 2016 when i added all the letters in the alphabet, maybe 2016 is the end of the world? heh
In 66 England won the world cup and have never stopped bleating on about it. That's evil.
jeezzz, gotta memorize more code?
I thought that the ending was pretty evident after the first 20 minutes of the movie ... of course .. i never expected the twist in "one" of the characters roles.... ( dont want to ruin the movie for those who have not watched it )
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