i saw Tati's 'Mon Oncle' recently. It was a funny critique, and well done, but I don't know, kind of a one liner. Seems a bit overrated.

if you are talking about tati films see playtime (which is about modern urban living)

And I heartily agree with vado, check out Herzog and Fassbinder (does Fassbinder really count as a Werner?)

I'm a huge Ingmar Bergmann freak as well, not that it has much to do with architecture

everyone keeps mentioning herzog... which films do you recommend? and for fassbinder?

(a bit off the topic, may interest Vado)

oh yeah... and I'm surprised no one mentioned A Clockwork Orange

I already did (p. 1)

a werner's list on page one.

did anyone already mention

The Story of Adele H. (Truffaut 1975)

a tale of romantic obsession with the amazing Isabelle Adjani

some of these have been mentioned...

Playtime (Tati)
L'Eclisse (Antonioni)
Grey Gardens (Maysles Bros- Little Edie's clothes are incredible structures in their own right...)
Songs from the Second Floor (Anderson)
Weekend (Godard)
Cowards Bend the Knee (Guy Maddin)
Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (Weine)

dillup:

for Herzog, the best to start with might be Fitzcarraldo. it's also a good tie in with arch/engineering, as the film, starring the passionately-tufted Klaus Kinski, required a large boat to be- in both film and production- pulled over a small hill to another river in the middle of the amazon. incredible film and a good introduction to his work...

if you like it, then Aguirre Wrath of God or perhaps (my favorite) The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser would be good next. there's also my best fiend, a doc made by Herzog about his tempestous relationship with Kinski.

When rem and I were having lunch he said La Dolce Vita wasnt as good as Alfie.

loftin: thanks for mentioning Grey Gardens.
also Blow-Up (although Antonioni has already been mentioned several times}

there really is a pattern in this thread emerging (I think)

is a great guide film guide for all these movies.

lately i've really been into:

aki kaurismäki- match factory girl, man without a past, ariel, drifting clouds

alain tanner- jonah will be 25 in the year 2000, in the white city, messidor

a-f - uzak was very good and moment of innocence was just as amazing as close-up. thanks for the recommendations.

juan- jonah is one of my favorite flicks ever.

Noone has mentioned the film on Louis Kahn: My Father the Architect
which I haven't seen. Any good?

Nanni Moretti - Dear Diary (Caro Diaro) - has some great Rome
Wim Wenders (ibid) - Wings of Desire - for Berlin
Michael Caine in "Get Carter" - Newcastle, dirty, the architectural equivalent of dog porn.
La Grande Bouffe - only interiors, and some realy big tits.

Crash

and Naked Lunch and

Dead Ringers all dir. by David Kronenberg any good?

L.A. Confidential

Alien, 1979, Ridley Scott
Aliens, 1986, James Cameron
Bladerunner, 1982, Ridley Scott
Dune, 1984, David Lynch

An aspect which I think is often forgotten or not mentioned is the influence of the people behind the scenes like the production designers, photographers, story board artist...people like: Sid Mead, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Jean giroud/Moebious, HR Giger...


ADAPTATION, 2002, C&D Kaufman: less of a visual feast as the films mentioned above but the way they showed the creative proces with all its problems I think was quite similar to what I went through during arch. college...

Seven Aumurai
OZU's Good Morning
Samurai Trilogy
Rockers
The Harder They Come

Oh forgot redbeard, very good movie relating to architecture. i know that some of those on my list has nothing to do with architecture, but you will not be dissappointed.

Set in Venice:
Don't Look Now
Death in Venice

has anyone mentioned 'Madame Rosa' (1977) dir. Moshé Mizrahi with a stunning performance by the unforgettable Simone Signoret

All the Busby Berkeley musical numbers in the following films:

42nd Street (1933)
Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933)
Footlight Parade (1933)
Dames (1934)
Gold Diggers of 1935 (1935)

Who can resist watching dancing skyscrapers; gravity-defying pianos in an architecture-less vacuum; scale-defying spaces; eroticized bodies in fountains; Depression-era New York, Broadway, and Times Square; a hotel filled with pre-Code connubial bliss; anti-Taylor spatial organization; and phantasmagorical stage settings that only Matthew Barney seems fit to appropriate. It's where the landscape and architecture treat the teeming masses as decoration, not as its formal and functional objective.

mister bjork
absolutely

and not to forget other temporary mister bjorks
like cunningham and gondry

and if you really want to go surreal
theres always brunel (the classic pupil piercing scene in un chien andalou (co. dali) and then that more subdued classic los olvidados) (he even wanted to have an orchestra of the rooftop of a highrise in los olvidados...so not exactly dancing but certainly musical)
jodorowsky fed off him

i hated dead ringers and crash. i think cronenberg is the devil incarnate. and i dont mean it in the sense of 'oh how cool it is to be the devil'. i understood what is meant by cheap pornography when i watched some of his films.


and who mentioned resnais? and why? i do like sacha vierny's rich cinematography very much, but doesnt anyone find resnais' work a bit too literary? i mean there was a literary-audiovisual muddle that couldnt find resolution? i sense a visual 'tone-poem' in hiroshima mon amour, but its just a bit of a mess. something there but still..

on the rooftop...tsk me tsk me

The Constructivist movie: Aelita Queen of Mars

Trully amazing sets.

has anyone mentioned Ken Russell's 'Women in Love'.
Over the top, but still great

Un Chien Andalou is by Bunuel and Dali. Brunel is that British Engineer I believe...

Has anyone seen that movie, My Architect: A son's journey, about Kahn? any good?

Cleo from 5 to 7 (has someone mentioned this already? all architects should see this one)

la notte

l'eclisse

girlfriends and boyfriends (eric rohmer-- un ami de mon amie, i think)

chinatown

rashomon

parallax view

klute

rohmer's Winter's Tale

ronin

late autumn, early september (not classics, but i really like these last 3)

I re-watched Amacord last night. Brilliant!

Italian Neo-realism is the shizzle-bap snip snap.

Did anyone say 'Escape from NY'?

not classic, but I just saw Secondhand Lions and it was really good!