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Thoughts on beauty

x-jla

Thoughts?  I think this deserves a new thread 

“Beauty will save the world” - Dostoevsky.

 
Dec 20, 21 4:08 pm
tduds

Reminded of this fantastic article from a couple of years ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...

"Beauty, they say, does not have to be a proxy for health or advantageous genes. Sometimes beauty is the glorious but meaningless flowering of arbitrary preference. Animals simply find certain features — a blush of red, a feathered flourish — to be appealing. And that innate sense of beauty itself can become an engine of evolution, pushing animals toward aesthetic extremes. In other cases, certain environmental or physiological constraints steer an animal toward an aesthetic preference that has nothing to do with survival whatsoever."

Dec 20, 21 4:54 pm  · 
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SneakyPete

If you don't know why red delicious apples are garbage, time to go find out.

Dec 21, 21 3:29 pm  · 
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square.

what does joe rogan have to say?

Dec 21, 21 10:46 am  · 
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tduds

During a long hike a couple of years ago my wife & I got into a fantastic long and wandering philosophical conversation (two reasons why I love her) and worked out a sort of high level definition of "beauty", in a design sense. I'd describe it as "the unexpected discovery of chaos within order, or the unexpected discovery of order within chaos." 

There's more to it but that's the thesis statement.

Dec 21, 21 11:20 am  · 
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That's the sublime...

Jan 7, 22 8:13 pm  · 
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  That's all you need to know about beauty.  

Dec 21, 21 12:16 pm  · 
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tduds

Starting a "Thoughts on beholders" thread.

Dec 21, 21 12:27 pm  · 
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You win the internet for the day tduds.

Dec 21, 21 12:47 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

Chad, that’s the 3 general notes on my drawing package cover A0 sheet. Just after the don’t scale drawings and ask for clarification points.

Dec 22, 21 11:18 am  · 
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Wood Guy

Beauty, truth, light, energy, art, love--all sides of the same coin. (No, I'm not high.) 

Dec 21, 21 12:36 pm  · 
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bowling_ball

Me neither but you've inspired me

Dec 21, 21 11:17 pm  · 
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atelier nobody

I have loved this song since first hearing...


Dec 21, 21 6:51 pm  · 
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TIQM

"All art is absolutely useless." -Oscar Wilde

Dec 22, 21 8:17 pm  · 
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TIQM

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then why is there such agreement among people on things that people find beautiful.  Not unanimous agreement, but majority consensus? 

Dec 22, 21 12:23 am  · 
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TIQM

Exactly. They share a human nature, which leads them to find similar things beautiful. So, at least in part, beauty is not “in the eye of the beholder”.

Dec 22, 21 10:11 am  · 
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TIQM

I agree that we are a blending of Nature and Nurture. I think that it's a good idea for designers to focus upon and take seriously human nature, the things we share as members of the family of humans.  Culture is transient.  Human nature endures.

Dec 22, 21 4:10 pm  · 
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TIQM

Are not beauty and the sublime intertwined in some way?

Dec 23, 21 10:32 am  · 
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TIQM

“The Sacred and the Beautiful stand side by side, two doors that open onto a single space, and in that space we find our home.” -Roger Scruton

Dec 23, 21 10:33 am  · 
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TIQM

Aspects of the natural world, for example.  A sunset viewed from a scenic overlook, for example.  An overwhelming majority of humans would say that is a beautiful thing to behold.  Why?  If beauty were truly “in the eye of the beholder”, then you’d expect 50% of people to find that sunset ugly.  

Dec 22, 21 12:29 am  · 
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I think you're beautiful Rando. ;)

Jan 18, 22 10:50 am  · 
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TIQM

A Darwinian Theory of Beauty

Dec 22, 21 12:34 am  · 
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Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.

Dec 22, 21 10:13 am  · 
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tduds

All beer is beautiful, in my eye.

Dec 23, 21 12:19 pm  · 
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TIQM

x-jia,

if you haven't watched it already, I highly recommend you watch the TED talk I posted above, "A Darwinian Theory of Beauty" by Denis Dutton.

Dec 23, 21 3:27 pm  · 
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TIQM

"Beauty is no more than the promise of happiness."  - Stendhal



Dec 23, 21 3:47 pm  · 
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Beauty is when x-jla gets nuked for posting lies and BS.  

Jan 18, 22 10:56 am  · 
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