A professor in grad school summed it up perfectly, if not a little pessimistically: "The average American wants to fall out of their bed into their shower, and fall out of their car into their kitchen.
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TIL the term "snout houses." I try to convince my wife that homes can be built without the garage as the thing that occupies the street frontage, but all of her living experience indicates otherwise. In our price range and location, she's probably more correct than I am.
Nov 19, 20 2:13 pm ·
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Non Sequitur
My parent's late 80s suburban detached 4bed home in which I grew up certainly fit the description of snout house. The house we purchased 5years ago does not have a garage at all... just a 4 car long private driveway to the side.
All of the homes we've purchased over the years have been snout houses (mid to late 80's suburban developments). Her parents' house is a snout house (mid 80's suburban development). My parents' house (early 80's rural 1-acre lot) didn't have a garage until they added one two or three years after I moved out. It's definitely the dominant feature on the house for size (dad's a mechanic and wanted a big garage), but not in linear street frontage. It is also set back from the face of the house so it's an "innie" snout if anything.
Nov 19, 20 2:36 pm ·
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atelier nobody
I generally agree that snout houses are icky, but there are conditions where they work, like the steep canyons where I grew up.
I actually like that style of semi-sunken detached (usually detached) carriage house. You see it a lot around Portland & most of the houses still have a usable yard & visible front porch / entry. Not like the post-war suburb style that prioritizes car entry over human entry.
Neither had some of the rest of us. We were all able to google it ourselves.
Nov 19, 20 5:54 pm ·
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tduds
My garage is around the side of the house and at the basement level. We have a concrete patio on top of it that I insist on calling "the loggia" because I'm a snob.
second best back of the yard detached with a skinny drive on one side of the house so the garage can double as a yard party pavilion/work shop when you have need for it.
then there is the front, it would be nice if it wasn't the dominant feature of the street view but sometimes there is no other option in car dominated suburban developments or places with restrictive covenants, in this case if you have the budget make it separate doors instead of one big wide 2 car door.
Well, it's a five bay garage. The other two bays are at 90 degrees at either end. And that is not a steeple, it is a cupola. And the style of the arch was taken from a stone horse barn already on the property. And I don't believe the cupolas are fake, either, given the height difference between the main structure and the appendages.
Some Montreal areas are full of these. Some parts of the city ban them...lazy bastards, empty your garage of junk, and park the car inside it! They're really god-awful ugly and visually spoil the neighbourhood.
Early on, I was adamant I wouldn't have an attached garage. Ultimately, the wife won out and I have one. But, I placed it so it's a west wind buffer, turned the front of it into our "front porch" and put the doors on the back. Anyone driving up is presented with the front of our house, a porch, and a full side elevation before they ever see a garage door.
But then I also live 600 feet off of a dirt road and had plenty of space to play with.
Sometimes, you're just limited by site and access and you have to locate it where it's functional. Our higher notions about aesthetics get trumped in this situation.
Nov 25, 20 8:50 am ·
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Garage Placement
When adding a garage to a floorplan, where is the most convenient spot to put it?
Where you have access to the street and a driveway.
With reasonable access to a public street. Placing it at the same level as the street is also recommended.
Next question.
Slightly higher would be prefered. you know so water will drain away.
Oh, is that why civil is always upset with my drawings?
I t could be, or maybe your showing your slope arrow in the wrong direction
I don't use arrows. I prefer a thumbs up or thumbs down to indicate slopes.
Show some spot elevations.
Spot elevations are very important, yes.
Also good to put it where you have an entrance into the house.
The most convenient spot for a garage is rarely the best spot.
See: snout houses.
A professor in grad school summed it up perfectly, if not a little pessimistically: "The average American wants to fall out of their bed into their shower, and fall out of their car into their kitchen. "
TIL the term "snout houses." I try to convince my wife that homes can be built without the garage as the thing that occupies the street frontage, but all of her living experience indicates otherwise. In our price range and location, she's probably more correct than I am.
My parent's late 80s suburban detached 4bed home in which I grew up certainly fit the description of snout house. The house we purchased 5years ago does not have a garage at all... just a 4 car long private driveway to the side.
All of the homes we've purchased over the years have been snout houses (mid to late 80's suburban developments). Her parents' house is a snout house (mid 80's suburban development). My parents' house (early 80's rural 1-acre lot) didn't have a garage until they added one two or three years after I moved out. It's definitely the dominant feature on the house for size (dad's a mechanic and wanted a big garage), but not in linear street frontage. It is also set back from the face of the house so it's an "innie" snout if anything.
I generally agree that snout houses are icky, but there are conditions where they work, like the steep canyons where I grew up.
OK, I'll ask...what the hell is a "snout" house?
I actually like that style of semi-sunken detached (usually detached) carriage house. You see it a lot around Portland & most of the houses still have a usable yard & visible front porch / entry. Not like the post-war suburb style that prioritizes car entry over human entry.
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Never heard that term before...
Neither had some of the rest of us. We were all able to google it ourselves.
My garage is around the side of the house and at the basement level. We have a concrete patio on top of it that I insist on calling "the loggia" because I'm a snob.
I want to say under ground is the best location. But then this random internet image reminds me why you need to think twice.
I thought Jeeps had roll cages? Either it's a shitty cage or a really well engineered overhang.
It's a roll cage not a squish cage.
and it keeps you alive, not the car
Jay's excellent image pretty much screams for a caption contest.
"Honey, I'm ho...gkgkgkrrrrr." [Ok, not my best work. You try.]
Garage placement:
Best ally (side or rear)
second best back of the yard detached with a skinny drive on one side of the house so the garage can double as a yard party pavilion/work shop when you have need for it.
then there is the front, it would be nice if it wasn't the dominant feature of the street view but sometimes there is no other option in car dominated suburban developments or places with restrictive covenants, in this case if you have the budget make it separate doors instead of one big wide 2 car door.
Over and OUT
Peter N
Always test the location and access based on carrying a bag of groceries / beer / wine. I don't make it difficult otherwise you'll have complaints.
All garages aren't ugly. Lady architect, too!
That's so... wrong. Steeple? Fake dormer windows? Squat stone arch?
Nice stone, though.
Well, it's a five bay garage. The other two bays are at 90 degrees at either end. And that is not a steeple, it is a cupola. And the style of the arch was taken from a stone horse barn already on the property. And I don't believe the cupolas are fake, either, given the height difference between the main structure and the appendages.
This is a garage:
I know a few here might get this
Some Montreal areas are full of these. Some parts of the city ban them...lazy bastards, empty your garage of junk, and park the car inside it! They're really god-awful ugly and visually spoil the neighbourhood.
^This guy gets it. They are not permitted in Ottawa, but obviously, it's not an enforced bylaw. We call them garage gatineau.
Early on, I was adamant I wouldn't have an attached garage. Ultimately, the wife won out and I have one. But, I placed it so it's a west wind buffer, turned the front of it into our "front porch" and put the doors on the back. Anyone driving up is presented with the front of our house, a porch, and a full side elevation before they ever see a garage door.
But then I also live 600 feet off of a dirt road and had plenty of space to play with.
Sometimes, you're just limited by site and access and you have to locate it where it's functional. Our higher notions about aesthetics get trumped in this situation.
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