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Please help with roof design

wholley

I'm building my own pier and beam 1500 sq ft house and have general framing skills but don't know how to to design the roof. I've designed the house layout and porch and really need some help with the roof and porch framing design.

Thank you so much in advance

 
Feb 21, 19 2:53 pm
geezertect

OK, folks, quote him an hourly rate!

Feb 21, 19 2:57 pm
senjohnblutarsky

Pre-engineered trusses.

$150.  I'll get you a mailing address for purposes of sending my check. 

Feb 21, 19 3:13 pm
JawkneeMusic

i'll design it.  check back 2nite

Feb 21, 19 3:28 pm
JawkneeMusic

r u sure this is to scale?  the measurments seem off

Feb 21, 19 3:41 pm
wholley

Yes it's to scale

tduds

Blind leading the blind.

Non Sequitur

I put a ruler to my monitor, does not appear to be to scale.

Rusty!

Don't listen to these greedy fucks. Some of us love giving free advice (it may not be best advice, but free is free!).

But before we can help you, where does the kitchen go? This is important. Kitchen cabinets actually hold up the roof. 

Feb 21, 19 4:13 pm
Non Sequitur

^double important note is the spec on those cabinet hinges. They need to be installed in triplicate and be extra heavy-duty. Don't let those ikea hacks tell you otherwise.

wholley

Thank you so much I've posted a pick with furniture and cabinets

JawkneeMusic

where is the building for

Feb 21, 19 4:18 pm
wholley

My house

JawkneeMusic

and you know your vault is going to be over 6 feet high so is that going to stick out of the top of the house are you going to have the roof connected to the vault like an inverted Frank gehry

Feb 21, 19 4:20 pm
JawkneeMusic

look I can design your house for you for free but I will not design that design that you made

Feb 21, 19 4:21 pm
wholley

I just have to design a 1500 sq ft min house per where I'm building

wholley

So doing the best I can with what I've got at this time

JawkneeMusic

your vaulted ceiling should go let that be the first floor you won't need to truss web catenary the rest you'll probably have double the space and then make a rooftop balcony and you'll have your yard

Feb 21, 19 4:31 pm
JawkneeMusic

caternary=overhang^

Feb 21, 19 4:31 pm
tduds

Wrong.

JawkneeMusic

if you must have your vault have it at the top if you have any arching then reinforce it with a buttress and have a balcony on the top floor outside with the buttresses

Feb 21, 19 4:33 pm
Non Sequitur

you do know that the OP is not requesting a traditional masonry vaulted ceiling... right?

Bench

Sssh..... let this play out

Non Sequitur

I do like the idea of buttresses in wood frame housing. Let's leave it and see where it goes. I agree

Witty Banter

I'm really pleased with the direction of this thread.


Feb 21, 19 4:39 pm
tintt

Aisle 10 home depot has everything 

Feb 21, 19 4:41 pm
JawkneeMusic

also what's your price range I'm getting an estimating book tonight

Feb 21, 19 4:46 pm
wholley

So far I've prices the following

wholley

Floor deck 3/4 press trd pw 2x4x8 framing 5/8 OSB Tyvek Sheetrock Hardi 12”x12' Porch joists 2x6x8 porch posts 4x6x16 porch decking 2x6x16 Windows French Doors 60x80 Front Door 36”

Non Sequitur

bad specs for a bad design by someone who does not know any better. Perfect.

JawkneeMusic

also your vault is going to probably be extra expensive because there's not many people who know how to construct them

Feb 21, 19 4:48 pm
JawkneeMusic

also I assume you're going to need soil mechanics because I'd Vault May sink and crack and collapse

Feb 21, 19 4:57 pm
JawkneeMusic

Op has framing skills don't get anywhere near after this building collapses

Feb 21, 19 5:06 pm
wholley

I've also tried to design the roof rafters ceiling joists just the software is limited in design

Feb 21, 19 5:06 pm
Rusty!

Kitchen needs to be in the middle of the floor plan since it's holding up the roof. Else roof will slide right off.

Rusty!

Also, where does the person in 3rd bedroom take a shower? Or are they limited to whore's bath in the 2 piece washroom?

Non Sequitur

have you consulted an astrologer? So much bad feng-shuay.

wholley

Going to be gable end

wholley

3rd bedroom is my home office

wholley

Trying to layout the vaulted ceiling area and roof rafters

Feb 21, 19 5:09 pm
senjohnblutarsky

I'm being serious. Don't do this to yourself. Just get some trusses. All you need is the load information. And if you source the trusses locally, they probably know it anyway.

Non Sequitur

looks good, do they come in any other colour than black?

wholley

The last gentleman that helped me build my last home in 2006 I don't know how to get in touch with him but going to do a pine tongue and groove ceiling in the vaulted area again.

Feb 21, 19 5:22 pm
wholley

Not going to have a loft area just single level

Non Sequitur

that's pretty bad. The 70s called, they want their shitty knotty pine back.

tduds

More like naughty pine, am I right?

Non Sequitur

HEY-OH!

wholley

I'm building a lake house plus I live in East Texas Piney woods


Non Sequitur

more like a puddle house

Almosthip7

Where do baby christmas tress come from?



Knotty pines :D

( o Y o )

You need to buy the full version of SmartDraw, the free version doesn't do roofs. 

JawkneeMusic thinks he's getting paid by the post.

Feb 21, 19 6:15 pm
wholley

JawkneeMusic I don't give two craps about Smart draw just trying to get a design done


Feb 21, 19 7:16 pm
Non Sequitur

Then hire an architect.

Volunteer

If you must do this hire a roofing contractor as a consultant to begin with. Also move the fireplace so the chimney is on the roof ridge line, otherwise rain will run down the roof and hit the vertical surface of the chimney and the roof will be subject to developing leaks at that intersection.  Actually you could rotate the fireplace 90 degrees and locate it where the overhead fan is now and the fireplace could serve as a room divider.

Feb 22, 19 11:41 am
tduds

You should build an octagonal house instead.

Tell your friends it's a statement on all the corners you cut to get the job done.

Feb 22, 19 12:42 pm
Almosthip7

A geodetic dome maybe?

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