Transition from a low income neighborhood, into a successful community.


Hi, I recently came upon the idea that even the poorest cities or neighborhoods can come out of poverty eventually, what are necessary buildings or Infrastructures that could help to develop that idea.

Jan 29, 19 5:23 pm

Artist lofts.

Jan 29, 19 5:32 pm

clean water, good schools, public transit, a library, a park, good lighting, wide walkways, shade.

Jan 29, 19 5:58 pm
Non Sequitur

Water slides, decent craft beer scene and free WiFi are musts as well.

Non Sequitur

shipping containers. Lots and lots of shipping containers. 

Jan 29, 19 6:04 pm

Low education well paying jobs. The property taxes will solve everything else. 

Jan 29, 19 6:09 pm

Of course!


 You could spend a couple of lifetimes studying how Charleston, SC, has done exactly that. Here is a good place to start


Jan 29, 19 6:50 pm

1- Location? That matters, it's not just a sweeping hand of building types and infrastructure.

2- especially-this

Jan 29, 19 8:16 pm

Can't architect or urban design your way out of structural poverty. Neighborhoods don't come out of poverty, poverty is pushed out to another one. 

Jan 29, 19 9:19 pm

add opportunity, preferably within walking distance.

Jan 29, 19 9:36 pm

Kick out the poor people and make sure they don't come back, right?

Jan 30, 19 3:02 am

A lot of places that were almost abandoned for economic reasons have made a spectacular comeback. The fact that they were abandoned means that the original buildings were left in place as the population declined and not 'modernized'. Savannah, Charleston, St. Augustine, Key West, Georgetown DC, and Bruges, Belgium, come to mind. Not to be unkind, but you don't have to blow up Pruitt-Igoe if you never built it in the first place.

Jan 30, 19 7:50 am
Non Sequitur

I’ve heard Bruges is nice. I know there is a funny games of thrones crossover movie about it.


Not sure if you mean "In Bruges", that's a very entertaining movie.


The problem with a lot of these as case-studies is that while the places themselves have made "spectacular comebacks", these gains often signal the loss of place for the citizens who once called them home.


Yep, it's a Disneyfication of a certain aesthetic, like in Venice or the centre of Amsterdam. Less and less people actually live there, is that a success? Looks great, but suburbanly boring as hell.


The real question that often goes unasked is how can we revitalize blighted areas without displacing the existing population? How can we re-populate depopulated cities while maintaining economic diversity?



Jan 30, 19 8:55 am

A functioning democracy that works for its citizens.

What a quaint idea.

Jan 30, 19 9:01 am

open an artisinal cheese store to attract the millenial hipsters to gentrify the neighborhood

Jan 30, 19 9:34 am

Developers and the free market will fix everything.

Jan 30, 19 9:54 am

In many poor USA cities, you will find a corrupt local government.

Jan 30, 19 1:12 pm

I would hardly limit that to poor cities. The more money is available the higher the level of corruption.


Gentrification is the term I believe is what they call it :D

Feb 4, 19 10:09 am

I think there are two key factors;

1: you need diversity in the economy

2: you need a large enough population to be competitive on a global scale. Cities under 1 million are probably not going to thrive when the global businesses are moving towards cities where they have all of the people with the skills and knowledge they need in one place.  Cities like London,New York (but New York is on the small side population wise), Mexico City, Tokyo, Beijing, and many others where the population is in excess of 12 million will become the dominant economic powers.  You gain with population diversity in talent, skills and you begin to have more effect in global media and other cultural exports a city like Detroit will probably never be half of what it once was.

Feb 4, 19 2:11 pm

Race to the bottom or build small, sustainable communities focused on providing and caring for themselves. The idea that you are going to compete your way to success is utter bullshit that plays into the mythology of the conquering hero standing atop a mountain of slain adversaries.


I think having a college or university helps immeasurably. Charleston SC is growing very strongly and attracting a lot of young adults. It has twelve different schools of higher education and a city population of 700,000. Low taxes and a low crime rate along with reasonably priced housing in the 'burbs helps attract people.

Feb 4, 19 2:28 pm

I think this is only true as long as universities are cash hogs. Same thing for hospitals, a lot of nice work around hospitals just because of the leftover money. Now take a place like a hospital university and you'll see materials you've never gotten to spec elsewhere.


Why does 'low-income' have to transition to a 'successful community' to begin with? Carmel-by-the -Sea, California, started out as a art colony for poor artists. Now poor artists can't afford to live there. It is a rich community now, but is it successful? Look at Montauk, New York, on the eastern end of Long Island. Once it was a scruffy fishing village and if you worked at home with a middle class income you could afford to live there. Now it is just another Hampton populated by the obscene and repulsive wealthy. 

Apr 12, 19 9:26 am

Poor neighborhoods sometimes/often function better than wealthy neighborhoods in regards to community.  

Apr 12, 19 10:13 am

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